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Topic: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information - page 370. (Read 2761645 times)

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Ya, what do you suggest I change the text to? I don't know at the point of the message whether it's an asset transfer or something you bought.

Not sure if there is anything that can even be done about this, but when I receive my Nodecoins("Mined"), I get a notification in Wesley's client "You have bought 50 Nodecoins"...except that I didn't    Wink

I can only assume the same notice would appear when any asset it transferred to me?

Now that could confuse the shit out of people.
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awesome

maybe i found a bug in the my assets page

Asset   Quantity   Total Available   Percentage   Lowest Ask      Highest Bid   Value in NXT   Transfer
hotdogs             100   10'000           1%            0.5          /                   /               Transfer

there are 4900 hotdogs on a sale order for 0.5 but no buy orders in. Does the Asset need a buy order in to set Value in NXT?



Yes it does, if no one wants to buy it, there's no value in it Smiley
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There is no changes in hoarding, no changes in incentives, community is shrinking, price is falling etc. and nothing happens.

Isn't the price falling because of some changes in hoarding?


No the price is falling because interest is diminishing.
Some of the hoarders may have started dumping in the last days as we lost CIYAM and several marketers.

No, we did not lose Ciyam. He just left this main thread and went back his comfort zone to work on the AT project - http://ciyam.org/open/?cmd=view&data=20140228080813138000&ident=M100V120&chksum=8f5f6d1d&scrollx=0&scrolly=711
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Not sure if there is anything that can even be done about this, but when I receive my Nodecoins("Mined"), I get a notification in Wesley's client "You have bought 50 Nodecoins"...except that I didn't    Wink

I can only assume the same notice would appear when any asset it transferred to me?

Now that could confuse the shit out of people.
legendary
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Finally the biggest account(2159498187382012684) moved 1.189M to bter.
The price will going down more.
Prepare cash to buy. Grin
Re-di-stri-bu-tion!  Cheesy
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awesome

maybe i found a bug in the my assets page

Asset   Quantity   Total Available   Percentage   Lowest Ask      Highest Bid   Value in NXT   Transfer
hotdogs             100   10'000           1%            0.5          /                   /               Transfer

there are 4900 hotdogs on a sale order for 0.5 but no buy orders in. Does the Asset need a buy order in to set Value in NXT?

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So, I'm ready at Bter, please Dump a Million there ;-)
legendary
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@Damelon - thanks for clearing out some of the confusion.
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Are you contractually required to say that?  Cheesy

I was always saying that Bitcoin is a snowball.

Now I always say that Nxt is a snowball. Cheesy
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Nxt is a bubble I think

No, it's a snowball.

Are you contractually required to say that?  Cheesy



Time for a cuppa now I think...
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Where is Emule? Thought he would have chipped in by now...
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Finally the biggest account(2159498187382012684) moved 1.189M to bter.
The price will going down more.
Prepare cash to buy. Grin
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This sound good too me, but, I think nxt can also be use as a coin for those who want to use it as a coin. For me, Crypto is the first service that nxt offer, but not the last.

No problem at all: but for all intents and purposes, you are not mainstream Smiley
(And that was what the question was about Wink )
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Nxt is a bubble I think

No, it's a snowball.
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Nxt is a bubble I think
All money is a bubble. Gold, bitcoin, fiat... All a collective delusion.
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New feature: API request logging, simply press the icon in the bottom right corner

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I would like to hear more thoughts from everyone about the "State of the (NXT) Union"

It helps form a better overall picture.

(personally I fear that NXT would never reach the outside world and will always stay in the closed circle of this community, but I'm a tech newb so it doesn't count for anything)

I would really like to hear reasoning from those that believe that NXT will indeed be:

a.) the first choice for decentralized exchange and an asset exchange (ahead of other crypto solutions)

and

b.) will be so widely used among people as something we commonly use on the internet today

I would really like to hear thoughts from people that really believe this and that really see the path to this state.

(what I'm missing here lately is a clear direction and some greater confidence, because lately when comparing NXT to other crypto solutions you can feel at least a lack of purpose)

Be honest (even those that want to believe) as to where NXT is and where it's going...

My view has already partly been made when I said that the "community" gets asked for its opinion *beforehand* too much instead of being asked for opinions based on actual products. So that's my view on our development cycle: hampered by a skewed view of decentralisation.

Second: I do not believe mainstream people will use Nxt.

Did that get your attention?  Wink

I go a step further and state: most people do not use the internet.

People use Google, Facebook, Wikipedia, but they do not use "the internet".
They have no idea what "the internet", and even more: they fear "the internet" and they look strangely upon people actually involved in anything more that using a search engine or a simple email. I am sure most of us know that already.

In a similar way, I do not believe the mainstream user will ever use Nxt: they will use the services made possible by Nxt, whether through the infrastructure or through well-hidden implementations of Nxt tokens within another system.

Having had to explain "Nxt" to several "normal" investors, the first thing you notice is that they *do not care* about technicals and want to keep their users as far away from them as possible. They will never, ever put "this system uses Nxt" on their product. Forget it. The term "crypto" is too associated with crime and drugs to ever be used in any serious advertising.

We delude ourselves if we even think that Bitcoin under that name will be used. it won't: people are extremely afraid of it, and it doesn't matter one bit that this isn't true or not.
That doesn't mean that Bitcoin will be useless, it will just never be mentioned.

As far as I know, Nxt still functions in every way described. AE, DX, AM etc. are all features it has. Investors that I have spoken to see this value, and one has even bitten and will use Nxt (details to follow). However, will most people use Nxt? No, they will use his system "powered by Nxt".

The confusion comes in a large part from the way it was named at the start: as a coin. That name for what is actually a "token" used to operate on the Nxt system is misleading.
It does point to the value however. In the second part of the TF paper, it was called a token, too, and I think it's a good designation.

Recap:
1. What is Nxt? An ecosystem, encompassing all the features already described, to which the "Nxt" token grants access.
2. Will it be used by mainstream users? As a coin: no way. But then again, the same goes for all cryptos that call themselves openly cryptos. As an underlying infrastructure: hell yeah! It has more than enough potential for that.
3. Is this different from what we were told? I don't think so, but in my previous post I have already established that the same facts may lead to wildly divergent conclusions.
4. Am I blind to the tough times we are having and the lack of direction: nope. I just don't think it's an honest assesment of the four months of work and effort we have put in. Being "headless", this is nót unexpected at all.

Agree, I think this is the likely future for Nxt.
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@wesleyh you might have missed my post a while back. But there is a spelling error in the client. The green box that pops up in the right corner telling me I've

just "sold" an asset says "sould" instead.

No, i replied to it, you missed my reply Smiley

Are you on http://nxtra.org/nxt-client or using a downloaded client? Only the online client is up to date and has that fixed. Press CTRL+F5 to force refresh if still occurring.


My apologies sir. I was on nxtra.org and I refreshed and it is corrected. A winner is you!  Grin
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Nxt is a bubble I think

Those that thought Nxt would be lunar by now or could forge 10,000 a week or both are cashing out as the air goes out of their dreams. AUR/DOGE awaits.  


If you think Nxt can't deliver what has been promised ahead of the competition is a good reason why you should sell. Or if you believe Nxt is in competition with AUR/DOGE you should sell.

Otherwise, what has changed since the highly speculative days in December? I put money in then and things have only progressed and improved. I think I will be doing the same again.
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