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legendary
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By the way, the *real* irony here is that we have a guy putting references to 1984 into his Genesis account and here we are willing to take his word without proof.

That doesn't reflect bad on BCNext, but on us!

To wax philosophical: people create their own chains.
If we want Nxt to be succesful, we need to lose the God-complex.

I am grateful for Nxt having been created, and also would like to have the talented person that created it on board. But just waiting for him to bail us out (and this is not meant as a criticism for all the people who *are* working hard!) is self defeating.



Good point.  Maybe, BCNext is intentionally being vague, because he wants us to be independent and think for ourselves.

Maybe, the "fatal flaw" is our reliance on him.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least.
+1 and that's kinda cool I guess.
Fry
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legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
I think Ian would be a good choice for this position.

I created CIYAM Open (https://ciyam.org/open) for doing Project Management (and I hope to create its decentralised Nxt replacement via ATs in the future) and will most likely end up managing the Nxt AT project listed on it.

You are welcome to use that platform for other Nxt projects if you are interested to (I won't charge anything for that but you'll need to let me know what account to create a Project for as only an "admin" account can create Projects). Understand that it does things in BTC (although tasks for 0 BTC are not in any way being prevented and there is a USD field that can be used). If that is not deemed suitable I understand (I don't have the time to change it to work with NXT at the moment although I would be happy to add a NXT field before the USD field if that would be of benefit in the short term).

It also has a functioning (although not wonderful) Forum which gets very little use currently that you would also be welcome to use (although I won't tolerate personal insults, bullying, trolling or spamming).
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hero member
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This was my letter to CfB:

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Hi CfB,

I need to bother you as I have no other way to contact BCNext.
Would he be ready to share all his knowledge with one person, rather than with the whole community?

We´ve grown big in the last 3 months and things are getting scattered. We need someone to organize the information, the work, the needs, the requirements and the resources in order to get to the next level. If BCNext, you or anyone else from the core team is not ready to take this role, we should pay for a professional project manager to do this.

I want (and always had this in mind) Nxt to succeed, but for this we need a few things:

a) coordination (and transparency to a certain level)
b) money
c) other, non financial resources

We have the money, and have resources (a good community, good programmers) but need coordination.

Cheers,
mcjavar
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But that is history. The IPO is history. What we have now is a cool-sounding project, with some cool functions and a lot of promises, where most of them are still in the fog where only god (BCNext) can see them. We either need more gods, or the fog to disappear in order to get this project deliver those promises.

This recalled my off-topic chatting with BCNext when he were talking that ppl need someone above them (God) coz they r afraid to be left face to face with infinite Cosmos. He mentioned "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins. It was clear that he supports Dawkins' point of view.

People need a god. Everyone. I am an atheist, but I still belive in something as I try to explain the things around us what we can´t explain, yet.
People are used to get told what they have to do. Sometimes it´s the government, sometimes it´s their boss, somtimes their wife ( Smiley ), and sometimes the dogma of a religion.
People are not ready to work out things on their own as people are greedy and everyone has his own interest in his mind. And that´s why we always need a leader. In some situations it´s a person, sometimes a dogma and sometimes an authority, that besides that it is acting for his own good, tries to keep the need of the community in mind.

What we need, once again, is a PAID project manager. Who is dedicated to this project because he gets paid for it. And if he also believes in it, it´s even better..
This is a $60m project, which is not lead by anyone and will therefore collapse shortly and will be a part of the history, but not the future...

I think Ian would be a good choice for this position.
hero member
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But that is history. The IPO is history. What we have now is a cool-sounding project, with some cool functions and a lot of promises, where most of them are still in the fog where only god (BCNext) can see them. We either need more gods, or the fog to disappear in order to get this project deliver those promises.

This recalled my off-topic chatting with BCNext when he were talking that ppl need someone above them (God) coz they r afraid to be left face to face with infinite Cosmos. He mentioned "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins. It was clear that he supports Dawkins' point of view.

People need a god. Everyone. I am an atheist, but I still belive in something as I try to explain the things around us what we can´t explain, yet.
People are used to get told what they have to do. Sometimes it´s the government, sometimes it´s their boss, somtimes their wife ( Smiley ), and sometimes the dogma of a religion.
People are not ready to work out things on their own as people are greedy and everyone has his own interest in his mind. And that´s why we always need a leader. In some situations it´s a person, sometimes a dogma and sometimes an authority, that besides that it is acting for his own good, tries to keep the need of the community in mind.

What we need, once again, is a PAID project manager. Who is dedicated to this project because he gets paid for it. And if he also believes in it, it´s even better..
This is a $60m project, which is not lead by anyone and will therefore collapse shortly and will be a part of the history, but not the future...
hero member
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Back to topic.

1. smart people: please summarize how you understand the current TF and its inner workings
2. let's discuss this and possible improvements
sr. member
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Are we to assume that TF won't be changed in the future, unless we decide to change it?

Yes. Nxt can work as is. But if u need more potential u have to do something.

BCNext gave us the platform to create a new future.  It is now up to us to forge ahead.
legendary
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Some TestNXT to 15004211867702614232 Please!
4k testNXT sent.
legendary
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Newbie
Then please forward my letter to him, that I´ve sent you in PM.

Post it here and he will see it.
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With respect: this is a glib, bullshit answer, and you can't prove the "most of us" part any more than you can prove the "BCNext did math analysis" part.

Three months in and we have no Whitepaper, no documentation of algorithms, and no modelling or statistical analysis.

The greatest irony of the great decentralized Nxt Ecosystem is that its core is centralized in an opaque, anonymous identity who only communicates to the world through a Belarusan Java programmer on contract.

One day soon, Nxt will be called out for this. It is Nxt's biggest flaw.


He found the fatal flaw and he is right.

+1.  Gotta call it like I see it.  Plus, the highlighted quote should add two words: "through April".
legendary
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Are we heading in the wrong direction?

No idea.
legendary
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Are we to assume that TF won't be changed in the future, unless we decide to change it?

Yes. Nxt can work as is. But if u need more potential u have to do something.
hero member
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Now we should focus on more important things, because that´s the future.

I bet BCNext would approve this.

Then please forward my letter to him, that I´ve sent you in PM.
legendary
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But that is history. The IPO is history. What we have now is a cool-sounding project, with some cool functions and a lot of promises, where most of them are still in the fog where only god (BCNext) can see them. We either need more gods, or the fog to disappear in order to get this project deliver those promises.

This recalled my off-topic chatting with BCNext when he were talking that ppl need someone above them (God) coz they r afraid to be left face to face with infinite Cosmos. He mentioned "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins. It was clear that he supports Dawkins' point of view.
sr. member
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Does this seem reasonable and would BCNext (who still has info we need, I think) be willing to cede this information (looking at CfB here)?

BCNext already stated that he doesn't want to chew this for u. Use ur own teeth brain.

Are we to assume that TF won't be changed in the future, unless we decide to change it?
hero member
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wtf. you talk like we do and try nothing here Huh

I see u do something but this is not enough. At least the outcome is miserable.

Are we heading in the wrong direction?
sr. member
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Is anyone of the german guys willing to work with me on an article about NXT for Wikipedia (not for our nxt-wiki)?

If you need a german-to-english translator, I know one that can help you.
legendary
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Does this seem reasonable and would BCNext (who still has info we need, I think) be willing to cede this information (looking at CfB here)?

BCNext already stated that he doesn't want to chew this for u. Use ur own teeth brain.
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