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legendary
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I heard from Lisa Yin (PHD MIT Crypto) about doing our Crypto audit, but she just wanted a specific overview of what we need.  Can someone PM me with the info please.  Thanks.


That would be great, she cracked SHA1 scheme.

Yeah, just need someone to send me a detailed description (with links) to what we need for the audit. I've actually been waiting for someone to send me that for about 3 weeks, but no one has yet.
legendary
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Updated text and images: http://www.mynxt.org/beta/features.html

Still beta, would like to get feedback!

Nice.

From your site:
Quote
Zerocoin Functionality
Three words: Gonna be huge!
Simply speaking, you will be able to send and receive NXT with complete anonymity. Sometimes called "Mixing Service", this allows people all over the world to freely exchange goods & services without the fear of policital or other persecution because of backtracing transactions.

Just a nit-pick: a mixing service and zerocoin, while they have the same goal of achieving anonymity in trasactions, are conceptually different.

A mixing service is like if someone is following you and you try to lose them by running into a large crowd.

Zerocoin is like losing them by teleporting to a new destination.


Perfect way of describing zerocoin! NXTcash team has made an internal release and waiting for zeronet (testnet for NXTcash) to be setup. Hopefully, by next week we can experiment with teleportation.

Even with a small number of users, as the transaction counts go up, there should be no more than random statistical chance of determining the correct path. Havent done the calculations, but I think it rapidly becomes impractical to do any sort of meaningful correlation.

James
Did you speak with Edward?

Muchas gracias, amigo 7017504655955743955.

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Ellinas re??
The ball is in his court. I havent heard back any complaints, so I am assuming it is just a matter of getting everything setup. Maybe the problem is that there is a new simplified genesis block and we are using old source as base. He might have to merge the original genesis block into our release, or our release into more recent version.

Not sure. I am assuming no news is good news. Just waiting for msg from him that zeronet is ready to test.

James
I doubt he has time to see this atm - he gives 2 interviews this week...
full member
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@ Salsacz: I would like to officially request 15K NXT from the conference support section of your marketing fund.   I intend to use these funds to print up handout materials for the Texas Bitcoin Conference, with leftover copies from Austin sent on to NXT reps for the San Francisco, New York and Toronto Bitcoin conventions in the next few weeks.  My NXT account for receiving these funds would be 16092180239932658439.  

I have previously posted the proposed text for this brochure here for review, and have incorporated suggested changes.  See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5245021.

I have designed a full color NXT trifold brochure that I would like to have printed in Austin and pickup there on Tuesday evening March 4.   I have priced it with CC West Printing Office (http://ccwestprinting.com) in Austin and their price is 2000 for $526 or 5000 for $723.  Their price is so good for 5000 that I want to order that many.  Turn time is 3 days, so I have to get the final copy to them Thursday Feb 27.   I will post a PDF receipt for this marketing expenditure on the site here as part of an audit trail.

I will post a link to a PDF here on the site of the final trifold brochure copy I send CC West before I go to Austin so anybody can download it and use it locally.

My intention is to put one of these trifold brochures on every chair in the three speaker areas at the Texas Bitcoin Conference early in the morning on March 6, then go around at the end of the day and pick up any leftovers.   I will then mail unused NXT brochures to whoever is going to the San Francisco conference for their use.  They can keep mailing these brochures forward to each NXT rep at each upcoming conference until they are gone.    Then maybe we can print more, we'll see.

Thanks, Salsa!
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NXT is the future
I heard from Lisa Yin (PHD MIT Crypto) about doing our Crypto audit, but she just wanted a specific overview of what we need.  Can someone PM me with the info please.  Thanks.


That would be great, she cracked SHA1 scheme.
sr. member
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I would like to see an adaptive overall network speed. This would maximize the effective throughput, while minimizing the max throughput we need to handle. Similar to dynamically allocating only the RAM you need, instead of allocating the max RAM you will ever need. A cost savings of 2 to 10 is possible, depending on usage spikes.
If the network tells which nodes in advance that they will get work then..
You would put power management into the nodes so they would use less resources when not needed
If the network sees that forging would exceed the scope of a single node then it should split the work across more than one and we support more than one node forging in parallel in some way
If this were possible sooner rather than later that would be good because assuming NXT takes off it will place less pressure on us having lots of nodes of a minimum spec to keep up with the need to receive, forge and broadcast. This would be because we could move to parallel transparent forging or transparent parallel forging - not sure which it is or whether it matters what we call it.

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Minimizing bandwidth by going to binary format, blockchain pruning or blockchain FIFO for non-hallmark nodes, etc, etc.

On bandwidth - binary will help but you could implement a simple compression protocol as a post process on the JSON rather than removing it - its not as efficient a pure binary but you can achieve 70%+ bandwidth reduction compressing text which is why network companies sell H/W to do this but you can do it in SW - just need to pick an inline compression algo.

Cheaper too because you don't have to change all your SW because you can test using text and then just layer on the compression in live operation or last testing stages.

Blockchain pruning - I think current/archive might be a better way of looking at it. These are financial transactions, maybe you never want to destroy them.

Why can't we define an archiving point for a node, or the max age that the node stores the block chain into. the intelligence that when you can't follow a reference in the chain you can query an archive node and maybe a node just has an age parameter and beyond this age it doesn't store the chain but knows a node which does and/or maybe nodes broadcast the age of the chain they store and maybe this gives them some forging benefit for storing it all and also nodes then know where to go for the data.

We just then need a few core nodes who store everything and then a standard age depending on the size and important of a node in the network.

Cant remember what FIFO is.
legendary
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Are there any insider news from the Cryptsy team?
legendary
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SWARM NEEDED

Here is the reddit post, please everyone sign up at Bittrex.

Hello NXT community,

I solicited feedback on another thread about which coins we should support on our exchange before our public launch. NXT was overwhelmingly recommended.

Before we make the final decision, we're providing a special invite code for NXT users to experience our site first hand. Go to https://bittrex.com/Account/Register and use SUPPORT_NXT as the invite code. This gets you past the invite code queue. Place some trades, enabled 2FA, or try any of our other features to help us stress the site before the final launch. If you find a bug, we're handing out bug bounties as well. Having a great exchange helps us but also helps the NXT community.

If we get 100 signs ups using that code and active on our site, we'll add NXT before our public launch.

Please let me know if you have any questions or feedback, Bill



Just a reminder for everyone who hasn't already to please sign up for Bittrex.  Will also update everyone on Atomic Trade soon.  Thank you
legendary
Activity: 1470
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I heard from Lisa Yin (PHD MIT Crypto) about doing our Crypto audit, but she just wanted a specific overview of what we need.  Can someone PM me with the info please.  Thanks.
full member
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Thanks 7017504655955743955 :-)

Wonderful! The song of love charity program could use some help as well -
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-6k-raised-for-songs-of-love-468258
full member
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NXT is the future

It would be nice if there was a multisend feature in the client. If I could line up all the addresses of hard working nxt'ers and one-click send a given amount, say 1000nxt (as in each would get 1000) I'd be very inclined to give more regular donations in just this way. Sitting at the computer and putting in 50 or how ever many transactions is a PITA.

If you're using GNU/Linux you can use this:

Code:
#!/bin/bash
# sndnxt.sh 20140223 -- send NXT to multiple addresses.
#
# Copyright 2014 The Free Software Foundation.
# Copying and distribution of this file, with or without
# modification, are permitted in any medium without royalty
# provided the copyright notice and this notice are preserved.  
# This file is offered as-is, without any warranty.
#
if [ $# -ne 3 ]; then
  echo "Usage: ${0##*/} 'passphrase' amount file_of_addresses"
  exit 1
fi
passphrase="$(perl -MURI::Escape -e 'print uri_escape($ARGV[0])' "$1")"; shift
amount=$1; shift
for nxtaddr in $( cat "$1" ); do
  echo "sending $amount to $nxtaddr"
  curl -s "http://localhost:7874/nxt?requestType=sendMoney&secretPhrase=$passphrase&recipient=$nxtaddr&amount=$amount&fee=1&deadline=1440" >> /dev/null
done

exit 0

Just tested it out and it seems to work.


Excellent. Will have a look. Would be nice to bookmark and assign identities to accounts within the client too. Then we could really get this donation party started! lol.


Anyone tried this?

http://tipnxt.com/

under the menu Vips, you have usernames and accounts

Yeah, I've tried, half those tips are from me, it works great.

thank you msin
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
Updated text and images: http://www.mynxt.org/beta/features.html

Still beta, would like to get feedback!

Nice.

From your site:
Quote
Zerocoin Functionality
Three words: Gonna be huge!
Simply speaking, you will be able to send and receive NXT with complete anonymity. Sometimes called "Mixing Service", this allows people all over the world to freely exchange goods & services without the fear of policital or other persecution because of backtracing transactions.

Just a nit-pick: a mixing service and zerocoin, while they have the same goal of achieving anonymity in trasactions, are conceptually different.

A mixing service is like if someone is following you and you try to lose them by running into a large crowd.

Zerocoin is like losing them by teleporting to a new destination.


Perfect way of describing zerocoin! NXTcash team has made an internal release and waiting for zeronet (testnet for NXTcash) to be setup. Hopefully, by next week we can experiment with teleportation.

Even with a small number of users, as the transaction counts go up, there should be no more than random statistical chance of determining the correct path. Havent done the calculations, but I think it rapidly becomes impractical to do any sort of meaningful correlation.

James
Did you speak with Edward?

Muchas gracias, amigo 7017504655955743955.

στην υγειά σας Smiley
Ellinas re??
The ball is in his court. I havent heard back any complaints, so I am assuming it is just a matter of getting everything setup. Maybe the problem is that there is a new simplified genesis block and we are using old source as base. He might have to merge the original genesis block into our release, or our release into more recent version.

Not sure. I am assuming no news is good news. Just waiting for msg from him that zeronet is ready to test.

James
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1004

It would be nice if there was a multisend feature in the client. If I could line up all the addresses of hard working nxt'ers and one-click send a given amount, say 1000nxt (as in each would get 1000) I'd be very inclined to give more regular donations in just this way. Sitting at the computer and putting in 50 or how ever many transactions is a PITA.

If you're using GNU/Linux you can use this:

Code:
#!/bin/bash
# sndnxt.sh 20140223 -- send NXT to multiple addresses.
#
# Copyright 2014 The Free Software Foundation.
# Copying and distribution of this file, with or without
# modification, are permitted in any medium without royalty
# provided the copyright notice and this notice are preserved.  
# This file is offered as-is, without any warranty.
#
if [ $# -ne 3 ]; then
  echo "Usage: ${0##*/} 'passphrase' amount file_of_addresses"
  exit 1
fi
passphrase="$(perl -MURI::Escape -e 'print uri_escape($ARGV[0])' "$1")"; shift
amount=$1; shift
for nxtaddr in $( cat "$1" ); do
  echo "sending $amount to $nxtaddr"
  curl -s "http://localhost:7874/nxt?requestType=sendMoney&secretPhrase=$passphrase&recipient=$nxtaddr&amount=$amount&fee=1&deadline=1440" >> /dev/null
done

exit 0

Just tested it out and it seems to work.


Excellent. Will have a look. Would be nice to bookmark and assign identities to accounts within the client too. Then we could really get this donation party started! lol.


Anyone tried this?

http://tipnxt.com/

under the menu Vips, you have usernames and accounts

Yeah, I've tried, half those tips are from me, it works great.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
You know how I know BCNext is not a native English speaker?  A native English speaker never would have used the word "forge" positively in connection with currency.

+1000.  This is a real problem for anybody learning about NXT for the first time.  There is a valid and legitimate use in English for "forger" as being "one who heats and works metal", like a blacksmith.  But the FAR MORE COMMON use of "forger" in English is "one who creates fake documents, particularly financial ones".

Or he has a very good understanding of english and knows the double-entendre very well.

I doubt that any double-entendre has been in anyone's mind. Smiley
Is it too late to name the concepts again?   
These names has been commented earlier, too. Eg. forgery has only negative meanings.

Lets call it "spam prevention fee"
That is what it is
sr. member
Activity: 247
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Thanks 7017504655955743955 :-)

Much appreciated. Thanks secret Santa 7017504655955743955
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
Updated text and images: http://www.mynxt.org/beta/features.html

Still beta, would like to get feedback!

Nice.

From your site:
Quote
Zerocoin Functionality
Three words: Gonna be huge!
Simply speaking, you will be able to send and receive NXT with complete anonymity. Sometimes called "Mixing Service", this allows people all over the world to freely exchange goods & services without the fear of policital or other persecution because of backtracing transactions.

Just a nit-pick: a mixing service and zerocoin, while they have the same goal of achieving anonymity in trasactions, are conceptually different.

A mixing service is like if someone is following you and you try to lose them by running into a large crowd.

Zerocoin is like losing them by teleporting to a new destination.


Perfect way of describing zerocoin! NXTcash team has made an internal release and waiting for zeronet (testnet for NXTcash) to be setup. Hopefully, by next week we can experiment with teleportation.

Even with a small number of users, as the transaction counts go up, there should be no more than random statistical chance of determining the correct path. Havent done the calculations, but I think it rapidly becomes impractical to do any sort of meaningful correlation.

James
Did you speak with Edward?

Muchas gracias, amigo 7017504655955743955.

στην υγειά σας Smiley
Ellinas re??
full member
Activity: 266
Merit: 100
NXT is the future

It would be nice if there was a multisend feature in the client. If I could line up all the addresses of hard working nxt'ers and one-click send a given amount, say 1000nxt (as in each would get 1000) I'd be very inclined to give more regular donations in just this way. Sitting at the computer and putting in 50 or how ever many transactions is a PITA.

If you're using GNU/Linux you can use this:

Code:
#!/bin/bash
# sndnxt.sh 20140223 -- send NXT to multiple addresses.
#
# Copyright 2014 The Free Software Foundation.
# Copying and distribution of this file, with or without
# modification, are permitted in any medium without royalty
# provided the copyright notice and this notice are preserved.  
# This file is offered as-is, without any warranty.
#
if [ $# -ne 3 ]; then
  echo "Usage: ${0##*/} 'passphrase' amount file_of_addresses"
  exit 1
fi
passphrase="$(perl -MURI::Escape -e 'print uri_escape($ARGV[0])' "$1")"; shift
amount=$1; shift
for nxtaddr in $( cat "$1" ); do
  echo "sending $amount to $nxtaddr"
  curl -s "http://localhost:7874/nxt?requestType=sendMoney&secretPhrase=$passphrase&recipient=$nxtaddr&amount=$amount&fee=1&deadline=1440" >> /dev/null
done

exit 0

Just tested it out and it seems to work.


Excellent. Will have a look. Would be nice to bookmark and assign identities to accounts within the client too. Then we could really get this donation party started! lol.


Anyone tried this?

http://tipnxt.com/

under the menu Vips, you have usernames and accounts
sr. member
Activity: 460
Merit: 250
Muchas gracias, amigo 7017504655955743955.

στην υγειά σας Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
Updated text and images: http://www.mynxt.org/beta/features.html

Still beta, would like to get feedback!

Nice.

From your site:
Quote
Zerocoin Functionality
Three words: Gonna be huge!
Simply speaking, you will be able to send and receive NXT with complete anonymity. Sometimes called "Mixing Service", this allows people all over the world to freely exchange goods & services without the fear of policital or other persecution because of backtracing transactions.

Just a nit-pick: a mixing service and zerocoin, while they have the same goal of achieving anonymity in trasactions, are conceptually different.

A mixing service is like if someone is following you and you try to lose them by running into a large crowd.

Zerocoin is like losing them by teleporting to a new destination.


Perfect way of describing zerocoin! NXTcash team has made an internal release and waiting for zeronet (testnet for NXTcash) to be setup. Hopefully, by next week we can experiment with teleportation.

Even with a small number of users, as the transaction counts go up, there should be no more than random statistical chance of determining the correct path. Havent done the calculations, but I think it rapidly becomes impractical to do any sort of meaningful correlation.

James
sr. member
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Thanks 7017504655955743955 :-)
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134

We just need a client that makes it so that there is no cost to forging. Then even if your chances are small there will still even then be no reason not to participate. All other things being equal a 0.001% chance to win 1000 dollars is better than a 0.000% chance of winning 1000 dollars even though 0.001% is a pretty slim chance.

Nxt is going to go to those kinds of prices because it is useful, this means transaction confirmations are quick and reliable.

No crypto has made it big in retail yet and BTC and most of its derivatives with multi minute and unpredictable transaction confirmation is a dead duck for this.

The explanation of how Transparent Forging can be evolved to instant transactions is brilliant if it can be achieved but pointless if the node receiving those transactions cannot or does not process them reliably.

I too want everyone to benefit equally from their stake and see the benefit returned in forging benefits but we also need to encourage a strong network - not just in the number of nodes and their decentralisation but also that each node can meet a minimum specification in terms of the need of the network for overall processing speed.

Right now you can run NXT on a TV stick, RasPI or whatever and forge, in the future, if NXT is successful I am not sure these will meet the minimum requirements for the network to deliver a consistent performance and the network should be built to depreciate weak nodes or it will fail.

The ability for the community to join together to create a strong node is important which is why I think we need forging pools of some description to address both issues - the forging reward and the network reliability.

If in the end even if we can run a node on a solar powered device with a big network pipe - why have 10,000,000 of these with 100 NXT why not have 1000 of these with 1,000,000 NXT but the stakeholders still get their forging benefits - surely this is even better for the environment.
The Infrastructure committee needs people like you to figure all this out and come up with recommendations. I predict that in order to support the high transaction rate, it will need to be subsidized for a time. Good thing we have the budget for that.

I would like to see an adaptive overall network speed. This would maximize the effective throughput, while minimizing the max throughput we need to handle. Similar to dynamically allocating only the RAM you need, instead of allocating the max RAM you will ever need. A cost savings of 2 to 10 is possible, depending on usage spikes.

Minimizing bandwidth by going to binary format, blockchain pruning or blockchain FIFO for non-hallmark nodes, etc, etc.

We need to figure out all this and then make it happen. I have many ideas for what we can build on top of NXT, but the current 1 NXT fee makes them unviable. I change my vote from 0.1 to 0.01 NXT per transaction. Keep in mind a "transaction" is everything, eg. AM, AT, AE, not just sending of NXT. If it was possible to have different fees for different uses, that might give us the best of both worlds. We could keep sending money at 1 NXT, AE trades at .01 NXT, etc.

Imagine what happens if AE trades cost .01 NXT and the btc-e bots (I have some of them) started day trading. At 1 NXT, it will never happen. At .01 NXT, it starts becoming something that is possible.

James
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