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Life sucks when you are a NXT whale, please follow me in the day of an NXT whale:
10 am: just woke up taking a shower and have breakfast.
11 am: after breakfast first computer session, first determine the price NXT will be for the day, programming the trading-bot accordingly and let it run.
12 am: aperitif with some friends, lunch and take some rest.
Afternoon 2 pm: sell the BTC the trading-bot gathered and cash out to the bank.
3 pm: enjoying life

And this day after day since December,

I hate BCNExt  because he was not looking if there were suckpuppet accounts, this way I had over 100M NXT, the problem is I will never get them sold in NXT lifetime that is why NXT is epic failing. Well that is the other side of the medallion, so the biggest problem is not the price of NXT but how do I get them all out before NXT is just another shitcoin.

To all bagholders, I will dump to 0.00006
Have fun

Hahahahahh <3
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But "the future" will likely be more along the lines of lots of small "domain specific languages" - the CIYAM software platform itself works this way (there isn't a single line of "manual code" used in it).

Ouch. That would totally not be my thing.

Thanks for recommending Haskell, I'll check it out.

Maybe, once AT is up and running, I could work on, or work with the high-level language(s) built on it.


EDIT: Emule, I can help you get out of Nxt faster, just send them to 7436197154535225138. No need to wait on slow-ass exchanges! Grin

EDIT 2: Hmm, why does Xtnd (my working name for the higher-lev language built on top of the AT op codes) have to be limited to only Nxt scripts? It's based on processor-optimized basic codes, it could be Xtnded to do much more. But Ian's warning about general purpose languages acquiring their own quirks comes to mind...

Can the burden of dealing with quirks ever be shifted to compilers/linkers/IDEs/the design of the language, instead of remaining on the programmer? How well has usability for coders been studied?
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Life sucks when you are a NXT whale, please follow me in the day of an NXT whale:
10 am: just woke up taking a shower and have breakfast.
11 am: after breakfast first computer session, first determine the price NXT will be for the day, programming the trading-bot accordingly and let it run.
12 am: aperitif with some friends, lunch and take some rest.
Afternoon 2 pm: sell the BTC the trading-bot gathered and cash out to the bank.
3 pm: enjoying life

And this day after day since December,

I hate BCNExt  because he was not looking if there were suckpuppet accounts, this way I had over 100M NXT, the problem is I will never get them sold in NXT lifetime that is why NXT is epic failing. Well that is the other side of the medallion, so the biggest problem is not the price of NXT but how do I get them all out before NXT is just another shitcoin.

To all bagholders, I will dump to 0.00006
Have fun
legendary
Activity: 1890
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
I guess I'm a generalist. I'd like to one day finish a real game, and other stuff, but when I see that I have to deal with specific quirks for each language and wrestle with syntax, I just feel like it's not worth the frustration and I go do other things.

And unfortunately "general purpose" programming languages always end up with their own little quirks (because they haven't been designed to do "one thing" and "do it well").

If you are comfortable with the idea of "functional programming" (which SQL is a basic example of) then I'd suggest also looking into Haskall.

But "the future" will likely be more along the lines of lots of small "domain specific languages" and "code generators" - the CIYAM software platform itself works this way (there isn't a single line of "manual code" used in the CIYAM Open web application).
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This whole coin was dead in the water. The new tech is laughable and nothing that cannot be wrapped into BTC directly or through a 3rd party app. These coins live and die on their communities, and starting with a large centralized developer with major investors backing it does not seem like a good way to start a strong community. Real cryptocoins benefit everybody with equal opportunity. Coins like this one benefit the developers most of all, by far. Forget this coin. It is the anti-crypto.

Anti-crypto? *yawn*
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I would like to code stuff, but no thanks to C++ I lean towards the latter. Like, towards the end of every year when I'm free, I hunker down, write prototypes, then tear my hair in frustration.

I'd really like a language that offers the low-level control and efficiency of C, the higher-level abstractions like objects, templates, inheritance and polymorphism of C++ (I could give up some things like virtual methods though), and the clean syntax of Python (imo, whitespace *should* be an integral part of syntax). I don't need cross-platform support, Windows is fine for now, I'm happy to port to specific platforms that I'm interested in. Does this language exist?

D or Rust maybe?

Thanks for the recommendations. But I look at their homepages and straight off the bat I see curly braces and semicolons. In C++ these cause a lot of premature baldness-inducing compiler messages. (e.g. Ian's example about taking days to track one ; down). Is it also the case for these languages?


@Ian: I know you can use different languages for different purposes and parts of the code, then link them together, so you can choose the language for the job so to speak. But the linking processes are messy, weird baldness-inducing things can happen. And when I need to use C++, I'd still like it to be a joy to work with, rather than a pain.

I guess I'm a generalist. I'd like to one day finish a real game, and other stuff, but when I see that I have to deal with specific quirks for each language and wrestle with syntax, I just feel like it's not worth the frustration and I go do other things.
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By the power vested in me by being full of hot air and having a big mouth, I hereby declare the period for accepting NXT Funding Committee nominations to be over.

Anybody that has a problem with that, quote just the red line above and give it a -1.  God help us if that happens.

...

And I'm a dictator that's gonna step down on March 7, the day after I get back from representing NXT at Texas Bitcoin Conference.  Because on that day, there WILL be elected committees.  (I hope).

legendary
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@ allwelder >

ATTENTION: The promo thread (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-first-online-nxt-wallet-477526) has been locked in Bitcointalk, so we will have to continue in a new thread in nextcoin.org: https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,4137.0.html

Please post in the nextcoin thread to be receive the 10 NXT and be considered for the 1000 NXT prize.

catch it ,thank you.
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HEAT Ledger
@CFB and others, would it be good if assets listed on exchange were somehow grouped? To bring order to the chaos. Some generic groups such as "currency", "ipo", etc..

Will this help if u have 1000 assets in a group?

At first ,i thinked asset should has many feathers: like type,brand
but now,  assets in nxt  have simple contents may be better, nxt asset in layer 1
because  like type,brand,group of asset ,client (layer 2)can sort or group them.

There is no need for this. Assets, Transactions, Accounts all have global unique identifiers clients can store anything they want with that as long as they store it themselves. It would be bad to put this in the protocol.
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Downloaded the Nxt client a month ago. That java code thing just pissed me off. Why cant you make a simple setup icon ?
No matter the technical progress if your client cant even be installed. Main problem of this coin and 95% of the altcoins out there is that the developpers just do not have any sense of communication.

No sense of communication.......at the end of a 1900 page thread.
Any else see the irony here?


Looking at the top of the top NXT accounts, those with the biggest holdings. I see almost no movement of NXT and i'm thinking what are they're thinking.

What good is it if you have millions and millions if NXT in the end will be worth less than if you did something with those millions and bought something that would actually help NXT?

Isn't it better to start thinking in terms of maybe you should do something with that money because in the end 20M will be worth more than 50M because those 30M spent made a huge positive difference.


I'm going to add my voice to BitcoinForumators. We do have a community fund, whale dudes.
The way I see it: u have to speculate to accumulate.
 
The value of any NXT u lose by throwing it into the community fund will come back to u as an increased fiat value for the remaining NXT, so you don't have much to lose.
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@CFB and others, would it be good if assets listed on exchange were somehow grouped? To bring order to the chaos. Some generic groups such as "currency", "ipo", etc..

Will this help if u have 1000 assets in a group?

At first ,i thinked asset should has many feathers: like type,brand
but now,  assets in nxt  have simple contents may be better, nxt asset in layer 1
because  like type,brand,group of asset ,client (layer 2)can sort or group them.
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www.coinschedule.com
ATTENTION MyNXT WALLET USERS: The promo thread (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-first-online-nxt-wallet-477526) has been locked in Bitcointalk, so we will have to continue in a new thread in nextcoin.org: https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,4137.0.html

Please post in the nextcoin thread to be receive the 10 NXT and be considered for the 1000 NXT prize.
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Just got this e-mail back from MintPal after informing them that Nxt should not be Nextcoin.

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Hi Mario,

It is actually called Nextcoin from what I can see
https://nextcoin.org/

Thanks though.

Regards,
Jay
​MintPal



Wonderful…

@ allwelder >

ATTENTION: The promo thread (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-first-online-nxt-wallet-477526) has been locked in Bitcointalk, so we will have to continue in a new thread in nextcoin.org: https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,4137.0.html

Please post in the nextcoin thread to be receive the 10 NXT and be considered for the 1000 NXT prize.
legendary
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Just got this e-mail back from MintPal after informing them that Nxt should not be Nextcoin.

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Hi Mario,

It is actually called Nextcoin from what I can see
https://nextcoin.org/

Thanks though.

Regards,
Jay
​MintPal

- thanks to ...
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By the power vested in me by being full of hot air and having a big mouth, I hereby declare the period for accepting NXT Funding Committee nominations to be over.

Anybody that has a problem with that, quote just the red line above and give it a -1.  God help us if that happens.

...

And I'm a dictator that's gonna step down on March 7, the day after I get back from representing NXT at Texas Bitcoin Conference.  Because on that day, there WILL be elected committees.  (I hope).

+1. No gods, no kings, no temporary big-mouthed hot air always young at heart benevolent dictators, only committees Nxters.


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Hi Mario,

It is actually called Nextcoin from what I can see
https://nextcoin.org/

Thanks though.

Regards,
Jay
​MintPal

God help us all.
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Just got this e-mail back from MintPal after informing them that Nxt should not be Nextcoin.

Quote
Hi Mario,

It is actually called Nextcoin from what I can see
https://nextcoin.org/

Thanks though.

Regards,
Jay
​MintPal

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Activity: 196
Merit: 100

Also treasures should not be member of the committees imo


Sigh.  For the record, there's a difference between being a "treasurer" and being a "designated spending authority".

James / jl777 is the sole "designated spending authority" for NXTcommunityfund and NXTcashfunds, which are run by him as an individual with no committee structure.  He is like Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy all rolled up into one, he can give those funds out as he sees fit to anybody he feels is helping NXT.   He gets to do this because NXTcommunityfund and NXTcashfunds are private funds set up by neer.g and Pouncer as a private deal with James.  Anybody contributing to these funds (and contributions are encouraged!) does so with the understanding that James is the ultimate designated spending authority from the original private deal that set up these funds.

I am a treasurer of NXTcommunityfund and NXTcashfunds.  I have the password to those funds and nobody else does.  I COULD spend this NXT, but I have NO authority to do so.  I only spend exactly what James tells me to do exactly as he says, no more, no less.  Public access to the blockchain and audit spreadsheets is the check and balance on ME and how the community keeps me honest.  

Now, James can't just spend these funds on HIMSELF with no oversight.  If James designates funds to be sent to HIM instead of SOMEBODY ELSE, then I have to clear it with neer.g or Pouncer first.  That is the check and balance on this huge power James has.  He doesn't have the password to the money, and somebody else has to give him permission to spend it on his own projects.

So, a "treasurer" has no real power except the power of trust and honesty.  They exist only as a check-and-balance against the "designated spending authority" going nuts and running off with all the NXT.  And the first thing an elected fund committee is going to have to do is decide which ONE of their members is going to be the "designated spending authority" that signs the orders that goes to the treasurers.

Now, I'm going to run for a seat on the infrastructure committee because I am a hardware guy, not a coder, and setting up a worldwide network to support NXT at 1000 TPS looks like a really interesting challenge to me.  I am going to run for this position even tho I am a treasurer on other funds.  I don't think there's a problem with that.  If that bothers people after reading the explanation above, then they can vote against me and I won't get in.

And I'll accept that if it happens.  We'll see.
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
I have lot of patience when it comes to code and debugging... (as I know I'll eventually beat them)
I can't say I have that much patience when it comes to arguing with people...

I'd have to say that I am the same - so I prefer not to "argue" with people but instead try "discuss" with them (it doesn't always work mind you especially in a forum like this one). Provided that it doesn't turn into an argument then I can remain quite patient (if it starts to head that way I would normally "move on").
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
I'm pretty sure the intX_t and uintX_t types are exact-width, but I don't have a reference near me at the moment to look it up (which is why I said int64_t was "at least" 64-bits above.)   I can look this up later tonight to be sure if you need.

They are *exactly* the number of bits their names suggest (that's why they were created). It is the normal C types like "int" and "long" which the Standard can only give vague ideas about size (such as sizeof( long ) >= sizeof( int ), etc.).


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