Topic: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information - page 838. (Read 2761626 times)

If you use this same account number on future payments, then we are cool.  I have made a record of your initial partial repayment on the official NXTcommunityfund spreadsheet. 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoE8nAOEMIa7dFFnWjRNYTM4RkhsN3dRRXFBaTBiaHc#gid=16

Don't fuck with me. I just sent it. http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=2000&tra=6883427540478165384
I'm using an account at bter. I will be using the same account number

Node 1 forges a block as defined by TF algo.
Node 2 (chosen by TF) verifies that node 1 forged its block correctly and forges the next block this is includes the validation or not of Node 1 block
If Node 1 block is invalidated then Node 1 gets no fees and the transactions are included in the list for the next node chosen by TF - NOT Node 2 the node that invalidated the block
Node 3 get its turn, it gets its transactions plus those that need to be forged from the Node 1 invalidated block and it gets to verify Node 2's block including its decision to invalidate Node 1's block.
If Node 3 decides that Node 2 made a bad decision on its transactions or the verification of Node 1 then node 4 gets Node 2s transactions.

This cycle repeats where nodes benefit from good decisions but cannot benefit if they make bad decisions which are found by other nodes and deciding a node is bad when it is not is also a bad decision.

It sound a bit complicated but essentially, what each node has to do is simply verify the immediately preceding nodes work in order to;
a) benefit from its forging opportunity
b) not be penalised by making the wrong decision about a previous nodes work.

the Next node needs to validate the previous nodes work but does not benefit from it
if the Next node makes a bad decision it is penalised but the verifying node does not benefit
because of TF the node invalidating the work cannot influence or control where the next block id forged and therefore control the outcome of its decision or benefit from it directly.

So if TF picks several bad nodes in a row then they will benefit but any 2 or more good nodes in the chain will unravel the bad nodes work.
I don't think complicated consensus rules are needed with this because  a node knows its decision is verified by the next node and it can't control who the verifier of its work will be.

hope I explained this well enough.. may still be too complicated.

but does forging not require massive download limits.. im not sure what the limit is on my wifi.. shared house and some one else does all that.. its 50meg fiber power but dont no if theres a limit.. dont want the bill sky high!

i was forging for no reason until i herd that purely to help secure the network.. but im not doin it for a huge wifi bill lol

Drexme, listen very carefully.  You need to post your sending account number RIGHT NOW on the other thread.   I have no evidence whatsoever that you just made this 14,209 NXT deposit to NXTcommunityfund.   You need to post the sending account number and the amount you are going to send BEFORE it gets sent.  Do not screw around with me on this.  I will declare it a contribution by an anonymous donor next time if you send it again without advance details.

I just posted proof. Need to be more patient. I see NXT still has a slow blockchain

For what it's worth, Drexme has started two new threads over at nextcoin.org to get around previous threads being locked.  His current plan appears to be paying back into the NXTcommunityfund administered by yours truly.   He says he's sent the first 14K NXT but I don't see it yet.  If you want him to pay interest, etc, better get that straight up front and right now because he may be about to dump in the dark and pull the eject lever.

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,4054.0.html

With what goal did u forge? With current state I suggest to every potential forger focus on protecting system, just do it, stake doesn't matter. Profits come later with some possibility, but unsafe (relative to context of cryptoworld, ofc) system can't succeed in long term - that's for sure.

We will probably follow his ideas and see if we have to modify it.

Neither. I'm pretty just watching evolving of technologies. What's TaPoS? 

well i know my opinion doesnt mean much in here as im only new and not a dev ect... but bcnext is obviously a very intelligent guy... maby he has the right idea... have you decided on wether or not the community will follow his plan? or modify it?

I understand your point of view.

maybe there are several providers that will come as several providers are creating several nxt clients

for example this other

Plugin Author: Dominik Reichl, Plugin Language: English

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All generator tokens that follow the OATH HOTP standard (RFC 4226) are supported.

Download plugin: [v2.2 for KeePass 2.20 and higher]
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My intentions where only to pay back the NXT.

You guys are the ones who made assumptions.

I already paid the first 14k https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,4054.0.html

You guys need to talk less about me, and more about NXT

No one is trivializing his admitted theft.  Sure, there are no rules on this thread.  And, you have stated your opinion and put your foot down.  Now the only thing the community cares about with regard to the theft Drexme committed is, "the NXT block chain transaction number for 33000 NXT is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx."


Now, again, back to work everyone! HODL on!  Awesome clients!  Distribution of NXT is widening!  

Exactly.
This is all about him paying back and then dissapearing.
The fact that so many want to forgive him and invite him back in is just maddening. I can't believe it.
You are basically inviting more people to steal because "hey if I get caught there are no repurcusions anyway"

Enjoy yourself.

Guys, I think the most agree on the following:

• drexme pays back with interest
• drexme leaves the nxt community

I don't like his words, his intentions, his motivations, his behavior. One might think he has to be 8 years old because he just don't get it. But just let's agree on the above and then we move on!

Drexme, don't reply here.

Ok I don't want to go all philosophical in this thread, but I dare to wager quite a big slump of NXT that I have studied more philosophy than you. It's one ofm y favorite topics.

Forgiving contains certain criteria.
Forgiving someone who isn't asking for forgiveness is stupid and would hurt NXT. So that wont happen.

I'm tired of the naivity here, goddamn. I need a drink

a lot of spam about drexme....