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Quote from: l8orre on February 10, 2014, 04:03:52 PM

Hey CfB - I get an error when I try to transferAsset on the AE. This has worked before , so maybe i'm just tired,

NRS seems to not like the 'deadline', and I have tried both string and int from my gui client.

This comes for 'int' and 'str' as deadline ?!?! wtf?

{'errorDescription': 'Incorrect "deadline"java.lang.NumberFormatException: Zero length BigInteger', 'errorCode': 4}

{'deadline': '10', 'asset': '14269709746849295412', 'fee': '1', 'secretPhrase': 'xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx', 'referencedTransaction': '', 'requestType': 'transferAsset', 'quantity': 1000000, 'recipient': '1738404304940813414'}

{'secretPhrase': 'xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx', 'requestType': 'transferAsset', 'quantity': 1000000, 'asset': '14269709746849295412', 'referencedTransaction': '', 'deadline': 10, 'recipient': '1738404304940813414', 'fee': '1'}

What is the request?

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Hey CfB - I get an error when I try to transferAsset on the AE. This has worked before , so maybe i'm just tired,

NRS seems to not like the 'deadline', and I have tried both string and int from my gui client.

This comes for 'int' and 'str' as deadline ?!?! wtf?

{'errorDescription': 'Incorrect "deadline"java.lang.NumberFormatException: Zero length BigInteger', 'errorCode': 4}

{'deadline': '10', 'asset': '14269709746849295412', 'fee': '1', 'secretPhrase': 'xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx', 'referencedTransaction': '', 'requestType': 'transferAsset', 'quantity': 1000000, 'recipient': '1738404304940813414'}

{'secretPhrase': 'xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx', 'requestType': 'transferAsset', 'quantity': 1000000, 'asset': '14269709746849295412', 'referencedTransaction': '', 'deadline': 10, 'recipient': '1738404304940813414', 'fee': '1'}

tylerbrad85

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Quote from: brooklynbtc on February 10, 2014, 03:27:31 PM

there is place for an app there, NXT password option

it lets you choose a password, and a login name, even use 2FA, and then it spits out a LONG RANDOM number, and enters it for you, seamlessly, like a BTC privatekey

So if you use this feature, you can log in and out with the app, and never have to know the brainwallet password, and all us Beta geeks can keep on remembering our
Sup33r#{a55w0r'dz}+UZEca#'tKr2@ckd33z+!Cmon/#8*)

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I like this idea!

1.) User is given a "Login" account screen, where they enter a username and password.
2.) User then is required(unless they choose the "original" passphase route) to enter a username and password to login
3.) The username and password is then entered into the client where the client spits out something random like "FSFD#@$#@D32ewd326546$FDR$$#@EsaDAasafgryhtddDS

In order for somewhat to break into the account, the hacker must know the user's password and username they use for the account.

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Quote from: fmiboy on February 10, 2014, 03:43:41 PM

no, you got me wrong... i meant design looks like bitcoin wallet application, but everything is still kept in nxt blockchain, No offline data is saved!

Ah, I see. I would like you to consider implementing a bitcoin-like wallet for passwords.

jefdiesel's idea above is a good one: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5063223

Thanks.

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as I can edit and change the value of an alias already registered? that option still exists or not?

fmiboy

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Quote from: xyzzyx on February 10, 2014, 03:39:35 PM

Quote from: fmiboy on February 10, 2014, 03:29:52 PM

Quote from: xyzzyx on February 10, 2014, 03:06:40 PM

Unfortunately, I've come to the conclusion that the brainwallet feature is not meant for average users. I think we should keep it as an advanced option, but by default a client should implement a bitcoin-like wallet, for the safety of our users.

well that's one reason, why clienxt's design made it look/feel like like bitcoin wallet...

You've implemented a bitcoin-like wallet for Nxt? Cool!

Do you still allow the user to use a brainwallet if he so chooses? BCNext wanted the brainwallet feature to keep governments from forcing the disclosure of private keys -- with a brainwallet the private key is generated on-the-fly so there is no key to give up. (In practice, however, I think this is easily defeated by rubber-hose cryptanalysis.)

no, you got me wrong... i meant design looks like bitcoin wallet application, but everything is still kept in nxt blockchain, No offline data is saved!

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Quote from: fmiboy on February 10, 2014, 03:29:52 PM

Quote from: xyzzyx on February 10, 2014, 03:06:40 PM

Unfortunately, I've come to the conclusion that the brainwallet feature is not meant for average users. I think we should keep it as an advanced option, but by default a client should implement a bitcoin-like wallet, for the safety of our users.

well that's one reason, why clienxt's design made it look/feel like like bitcoin wallet...

You've implemented a bitcoin-like wallet for Nxt? Cool!

Do you still allow the user to use a brainwallet if he so chooses? BCNext wanted the brainwallet feature to keep governments from forcing the disclosure of private keys -- with a brainwallet the private key is generated on-the-fly so there is no key to give up. (In practice, however, I think this is easily defeated by rubber-hose cryptanalysis.)

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Quote from: xyzzyx on February 10, 2014, 03:06:40 PM

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on February 10, 2014, 02:56:07 PM

It was obviously a weak password, and 2 minutes mean, that the "rainbowtable"-man is at it again Cheesy

You can check that by yourself if you send money to an account that has a password that is in the english dictionairy, it will be gone within minutes Wink

I really like the idea of theoretically being able to access my Nxt account from any machine using only my passphrase. In practice however it would be crazy to trust unknown nodes with your password. Conversely, what is nice is that if you should have a catastrophic hardware failure and no backups then your account isn't lost.

When I first read about Nxt back in the beginning of December, the brainwallet feature really got me excited and was probably the one thing that made me try it out.

Unfortunately, I've come to the conclusion that the brainwallet feature is not meant for average users. I think we should keep it as an advanced option, but by default a client should implement a bitcoin-like wallet, for the safety of our users.

well that's one reason, why clienxt's design made it look/feel like like bitcoin wallet...

brooklynbtc

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there is place for an app there, NXT password option

it lets you choose a password, and a login name, even use 2FA, and then it spits out a LONG RANDOM number, and enters it for you, seamlessly, like a BTC privatekey

So if you use this feature, you can log in and out with the app, and never have to know the brainwallet password, and all us Beta geeks can keep on remembering our
Sup33r#{a55w0r'dz}+UZEca#'tKr2@ckd33z+!Cmon/#8*)

sunrise778

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The owner of the VPS node from US, IP: 54.200.250.250, "The Matrix has you..."
Which version running on node90.nxtbase.com?

The owner of the VPS node from US, IP: 54.201.191.208, node81.nxtbase.com, NRS 0.5.0
157'752 NXT (about 8000$)
NRS 0.5.0 was released at 04-Jan-2014. Today: 10-Feb-2014.

Could you please update your server? Thank you!

I think, if we update our servers in time, possibly we get fewer problems.

xyzzyx

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Quote from: TwinWinNerD on February 10, 2014, 02:56:07 PM

It was obviously a weak password, and 2 minutes mean, that the "rainbowtable"-man is at it again Cheesy

You can check that by yourself if you send money to an account that has a password that is in the english dictionairy, it will be gone within minutes Wink

I really like the idea of theoretically being able to access my Nxt account from any machine using only my passphrase. In practice however it would be crazy to trust unknown nodes with your password. Conversely, what is nice is that if you should have a catastrophic hardware failure and no backups then your account isn't lost.

When I first read about Nxt back in the beginning of December, the brainwallet feature really got me excited and was probably the one thing that made me try it out.

Unfortunately, I've come to the conclusion that the brainwallet feature is not meant for average users. I think we should keep it as an advanced option, but by default a client should implement a bitcoin-like wallet, for the safety of our users.

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Quote from: brooklynbtc on February 10, 2014, 02:59:32 PM

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on February 10, 2014, 02:56:07 PM

It was obviously a weak password, and 2 minutes mean, that the "rainbowtable"-man is at it again Cheesy

You can check that by yourself if you send money to an account that has a password that is in the english dictionairy, it will be gone within minutes Wink

so our man ojman28 was hard on this IPO tweak, and he sent to a weak password, and just happened to get popped, then its all his damn fault, and a reminder to pick a REAL PASSWORD

There are a lot of risks for multi-acc-ers: BTT pass hacked or forgotten, transaction hash stolen, NXT acc hacked (as in this case) .

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Quote from: utopianfuture on February 10, 2014, 02:42:12 PM

Quote from: Isildur23 on February 10, 2014, 02:25:56 PM

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Countless pages with newbies' first and last post...

From NEM thread lol...

That's the design. Instead of easily sending in 3000 nxt to buy 5nem stakes now you would have to make up 5 different accounts, take the waiting time to post, then move the money around and send them in. Overcoming all these hassles, but the multi accters still suffer from public shaming and risk getting the money returned if they don't mix their coins good enough to avoid taint analysis.

I do like having some of these persistent souls in the team as they do believe in nem's success.

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

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Quote from: brooklynbtc on February 10, 2014, 02:59:32 PM

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on February 10, 2014, 02:56:07 PM

It was obviously a weak password, and 2 minutes mean, that the "rainbowtable"-man is at it again Cheesy

You can check that by yourself if you send money to an account that has a password that is in the english dictionairy, it will be gone within minutes Wink

so our man ojman28 was hard on this IPO tweak, and he sent to a weak password, and just happened to get popped, then its all his damn fault, and a reminder to pick a REAL PASSWORD

yes, basically it is the same as the brainwallet and BTC. Many lazy or dumb people lost their coins due to rainbowtable bots.

brooklynbtc

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AKA jefdiesel

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on February 10, 2014, 02:56:07 PM

It was obviously a weak password, and 2 minutes mean, that the "rainbowtable"-man is at it again Cheesy

You can check that by yourself if you send money to an account that has a password that is in the english dictionairy, it will be gone within minutes Wink

so our man ojman28 was hard on this IPO tweak, and he sent to a weak password, and just happened to get popped, then its all his damn fault, and a reminder to pick a REAL PASSWORD

TwinWinNerD

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It was obviously a weak password, and 2 minutes mean, that the "rainbowtable"-man is at it again Cheesy

You can check that by yourself if you send money to an account that has a password that is in the english dictionairy, it will be gone within minutes Wink

brooklynbtc

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AKA jefdiesel

I'm not against some guy's "persistence" to game the IPO, but then when he cries WOLF..

OR if ojman28, whose BTT account was registered just yesterday, and somehow got 34000 coins, and admits to "he and his friends" buying into NEM IPO, somehow got his password guessed, BECAUSE he was making 100 passwords in a few hours, and not making strong ones, then well, he's all yours

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Quote from: utopianfuture on February 10, 2014, 02:42:12 PM

Quote from: Isildur23 on February 10, 2014, 02:25:56 PM

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Countless pages with newbies' first and last post...

From NEM thread lol...

That's the design. Instead of easily sending in 3000 nxt to buy 5nem stakes now you would have to make up 5 different accounts, take the waiting time to post, then move the money around and send them in. Overcoming all these hassles, but the multi accters still suffer from public shaming and risk getting the money returned if they don't mix their coins good enough to avoid taint analysis.

I do like having some of these persistent souls in the team as they do believe in nem's success.

UP, check your PM

re: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ojman28-246361

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