Topic: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments - page 584. (Read 1234316 times)
July 11, 2017, 02:31:41 PM
I really like byteball and am hoping BB price doesn't mirror Stellar. I sold my free Stellar 2 weeks ago at 1200-1230 and right now it's 594
July 11, 2017, 01:23:14 PM
That is a wrong assumption. I have never been online when Byteballs nor BlackByteballs were distributed. I received all distributions by now. I guess you did something wrong. Probably you did not send the Byteballs to the given address in the chat bot message. This is a very common mistake many do at the beginning. On my first distribution I thought I did everything right but I only got Byteball and no Blackbyteballs. Then I learned I have to transfer my Byteball to the given address in order to receive BlackByteballs, too.
From what you guys have said, and from the whitepaper:
It seems that anybody who is offline when Tony distributes blackbytes will not receive them?
I guess I should have 1 computer always online but make it multisig with other signers offline?
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When users pay in blackbytes or other private assets, they have to send private payloads and absolutely need devices that can communicate. They need to know each other’s device addresses before they even learn each other’s payment addresses. Once their devices have established communication, the payee can send his payment address to the payer via chat message.
It seems that anybody who is offline when Tony distributes blackbytes will not receive them?
I guess I should have 1 computer always online but make it multisig with other signers offline?
July 11, 2017, 12:02:32 PM
I still haven't received my GB or my BB from this round 
I thought at least the GB would be in by now.
I thought at least the GB would be in by now.If you didn't get GB, I think something's wrong. Based on posts, looks like everyone that linked up properly already got paid. You may have sent your BTC too late or removed too early.
No I didn't receive any airdrop for GB held in my byteball wallet. These are the same GB which i held last distribution round and received airdrop. There's no reason i shouldn't have gotten it this time since the GB were never moved.
I even chatted with the transition bot beforehand it told me the GB and BB that I would receive. As of right now I have not received any GB or BB for Bytes held in my wallet or linked btc
July 11, 2017, 11:13:56 AM
From what you guys have said, and from the whitepaper:
It seems that anybody who is offline when Tony distributes blackbytes will not receive them?
I guess I should have 1 computer always online but make it multisig with other signers offline?
Quote
When users pay in blackbytes or other private assets, they have to send private payloads and absolutely need devices that can communicate. They need to know each other’s device addresses before they even learn each other’s payment addresses. Once their devices have established communication, the payee can send his payment address to the payer via chat message.
It seems that anybody who is offline when Tony distributes blackbytes will not receive them?
I guess I should have 1 computer always online but make it multisig with other signers offline?
Doesn't make sense, and I received them offline last time.
This time not yet, but guess Blackbytes weren't distributed yet?
July 11, 2017, 10:52:12 AM
maybe I'm confused--if you're offline when somebody sends you blackbytes, then the blackbytes just disappear into the ether?
No. You get it when you are back up.
July 11, 2017, 10:27:03 AM
So if I'm offline for 5 minutes, and during that 5 minute time period, somebody sends me blackbytes, do they disappear into the ether?
No, I've received blackbytes aftter much more time offline.Quote
If the blackbytes are received as soon as I come back online, how is that different than if restore the same wallet while offline on another computer (then go online on computer w/restored wallet)?
I'm still not exactly sure how it works. I am going to experiment with it though, and will share my findings.As far as I understand blackbytes, it would be a really cool feature to some how be able to print blackbytes from my wallet on a piece of paper, making it a single-use anonymous paper currency.
July 11, 2017, 10:26:44 AM
From what you guys have said, and from the whitepaper:
It seems that anybody who is offline when Tony distributes blackbytes will not receive them?
I guess I should have 1 computer always online but make it multisig with other signers offline?
Quote
When users pay in blackbytes or other private assets, they have to send private payloads and absolutely need devices that can communicate. They need to know each other’s device addresses before they even learn each other’s payment addresses. Once their devices have established communication, the payee can send his payment address to the payer via chat message.
It seems that anybody who is offline when Tony distributes blackbytes will not receive them?
I guess I should have 1 computer always online but make it multisig with other signers offline?
July 11, 2017, 10:26:20 AM
Is it normal that recovery from full backup does not restore subsequent (made after backup) transactions?
v1.9.1 light
v1.9.1 light
Bytes tx are stored in the public ledger but Blackbytes tx are only stored locally, so a restore only brings back tx before the backup.
Thanks in advance.
July 11, 2017, 10:16:42 AM
Not really.it means that if you do a full backup before you receive BlackBytes,then receive them and recover your wallet from that old backup you will only find the BB you had untill the moment you made the backup.
So if I'm offline for 5 minutes, and during that 5 minute time period, somebody sends me blackbytes, do they disappear into the ether?
If the blackbytes are received as soon as I come back online, how is that different than if restore the same wallet while offline on another computer (then go online on computer w/restored wallet)?
July 11, 2017, 09:57:21 AM
maybe I'm confused--if you're offline when somebody sends you blackbytes, then the blackbytes just disappear into the ether?
Not really.it means that if you do a full backup before you receive BlackBytes,then receive them and recover your wallet from that old backup you will only find the BB you had untill the moment you made the backup.
July 11, 2017, 09:41:58 AM
maybe I'm confused--if you're offline when somebody sends you blackbytes, then the blackbytes just disappear into the ether?
July 11, 2017, 09:41:23 AM
Much thanks to @tonych and company for lucky distro number seven!! I'm 7 for 7 and plan on being 8 for 8 
Keep up the great work fellas! Peace!
Keep up the great work fellas! Peace!
July 11, 2017, 09:37:10 AM
Bytes tx are stored in the public ledger but Blackbytes tx are only stored locally, so a restore only brings back tx before the backup.
I ran byteball software on offline air-gapped computer with disconnected hard drive to generate byteball address for airdrop. I did a full wallet backup with password, then encrypted the wallet backup file (encrypted twice). I then linked the public byteball address (generated offline) to bitcoin addresses on online computer.
Are you saying that when I restore from full backup, I will not get the blackbytes because the backup was made offline (no tx before the backup cuz it was only ever offline)?
Yes, you must make a backup after every Blackbyte transaction if you want to make sure you can restore everything.
But BB from the distribution are still being send out, so if you wait a while chances are good that your wallet still catches them. If they don't come in within a few days (keep your wallet running) you can contact our chief developer to resend it to you.
July 11, 2017, 09:33:30 AM
I received my bytes for in latest airdrop but I just realized that I didn't receive my blackbytes until now did they already distributed it or not?, I had bytes in my wallet btw
Edit: sorry I just read up prev post they indeed still not done distribute it yet
Edit: sorry I just read up prev post they indeed still not done distribute it yet
July 11, 2017, 08:55:56 AM
Bytes tx are stored in the public ledger but Blackbytes tx are only stored locally, so a restore only brings back tx before the backup.
I ran byteball software on offline air-gapped computer with disconnected hard drive to generate byteball address for airdrop. I did a full wallet backup with password, then encrypted the wallet backup file (encrypted twice). I then linked the public byteball address (generated offline) to bitcoin addresses on online computer.
Are you saying that when I restore from full backup, I will not get the blackbytes because the backup was made offline (no tx before the backup cuz it was only ever offline)?
July 11, 2017, 07:59:14 AM
Is it normal that recovery from full backup does not restore subsequent (made after backup) transactions?
v1.9.1 light
v1.9.1 light
Bytes tx are stored in the public ledger but Blackbytes tx are only stored locally, so a restore only brings back tx before the backup.
July 11, 2017, 07:56:10 AM
I think it'd be better to stop airdroping for Bitcoin addresses.
There is already wide byteball distribution. Those bitcoin holders don't care (free money for them) they just dump
Price would be stable today
There is already wide byteball distribution. Those bitcoin holders don't care (free money for them) they just dump
Price would be stable today
That is very sweeping generalization .... I am a BTC holder and participated in the airdrop.
I have no intention of selling what I was given.
Byteball is a fascinating project that going forward should do very well imho.
thats what i meant to say - that 'adu1t' made me act like a kid....
monkey see, monkey do
July 11, 2017, 07:13:06 AM
I think it'd be better to stop airdroping for Bitcoin addresses.
There is already wide byteball distribution. Those bitcoin holders don't care (free money for them) they just dump
Price would be stable today
There is already wide byteball distribution. Those bitcoin holders don't care (free money for them) they just dump
Price would be stable today
That is very sweeping generalization .... I am a BTC holder and participated in the airdrop.
I have no intention of selling what I was given.
Byteball is a fascinating project that going forward should do very well imho.
July 11, 2017, 06:14:10 AM
Is it normal that recovery from full backup does not restore subsequent (made after backup) transactions?
v1.9.1 light
v1.9.1 light
July 11, 2017, 05:29:18 AM
I think it'd be better to stop airdroping for Bitcoin addresses.
There is already wide byteball distribution. Those bitcoin holders don't care (free money for them) they just dump
Price would be stable today
There is already wide byteball distribution. Those bitcoin holders don't care (free money for them) they just dump
Price would be stable today
We Bitcoin holders know how to properly hold.
Yes, from looking at the transition page btc whales havent sold a Gbyte
Looks like mostly noobs dumping....
Anyone who hodl bitcoin from early days until now is certainly not " weak hands" and they have the most to gain by byteball being successful too because they will have a higher stake after the distribution rounds...
PLus it is an additional hedge for their already huge BTC richness. No need to sell when there is no need.
When byteball airdrops end around october/november the 20% airdrop will also end, but.... Also there will be no more byteballs created. So, one less reason to hold, one more reason to hold. Let's see what happpens from that point. Hopefully byteballs will already be on a major exchange by then or right after that.
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