Topic: Occupy Round Table on Bitcoin - page 3. (Read 10880 times)

Decentralized republics is possibly how this would work, though. As long as there was a fall back for people who didn't want to opt-in

Using what you've described earlier: The centralized authority is the most outspoken people amongst the ones who plan ahead for the future democratically.

I'll have to read up on this RBE stuff.  Do you have a good link that gives me an easy rundown?  If there is no gov't, what will this society be governed by?  Science?  I'm not getting it.

The decision making in a RBE is not the same thing as we're used to. We would use scientific method to arrive at decisions so no one is actually making a decision. The people are there to make sure the process is followed correctly. I've explained a lot of the process already in my previous posts. What needs people have as individuals are automatically taken into account in "decision making". It's one attribute among others.

If you don't like the decisions then that's too bad, it's doing the best it can. If you think the process itself is flawed, this can be fixed. Anyone can start a discussion or investigation into the functionalities of the system, just like Wikipedia editors can start a discussion on the validity of a Wikipedia article. It's no different.

Nothing is forced upon you. Sustainable breeding practices are an educational issue. This is evident even in the world today. Less educated countries tend to have a much higher population growth. In a RBE I would think that the population growth would be sustainable by itself, good education is all that's needed.

I stated earlier that my issue with it is the need for centralized authority and that I do not know how to avoid the corruption of that authority. I have thought about these things long and hard and come to the conclusion that it would be more difficult to make such a system work than anything attempted by man thus far. So, while I am interested in discussing the concept, I would not want to take part in the experiment because I think the failure scenario could be really horrific.

I don't know everything. Think about it yourself, how would you like it to be? RBE is not some fixed concept, it has certain core ideas that all RBE advocates agree on, such as using the scientific method, the importance of certain values and certain indicators as the core of an economic system etc. But none of the details are set in stone. RBE is supposed to use whatever technologies can at the time best help us reach our goals.

The point of the scientific method is that nothing is set in stone. It can always change when we get new data. It's all about experimenting, finding out what works. This is why it's important to be able to put RBE to the test, eventually.

What do you mean "be able to." There will be no government or police to stop anyone from doing anything. There will be no government to make anyone do anything. This is ridiculous. If you want to criticize RBE, go read the literature. Then maybe you can do something useful so our descendants don't choke on our poisonous waste. If you really don't give a damn, then I won't waste my time with you.

Will it be anonymous? Will you verify people's age somehow? What role would someone like cbeast be able to play your society?

To be able to imagine what kind of political system would be used in a RBE, one should consider p2p politics. Decision making would be something everyone can contribute to. Based on what you want to contribute to and what your qualifications are. All education would be completely free, so everyone can study and get the qualifications if they want to contribute to a certain project or job that requires it.

Ok, so is this in a post-scarcity society or not?

When you turn 40, your doctor will probably do the same. Just hope he studied science first.

I keep thinking cbeast is a troll. They keep talking about things they clearly know nothing about. Sorry cbeast.

Thanks for the tl;dr

Science is hard, not scary.

RBE is not based on centralized power. It's a protocol we would use for arriving at decisions. The actual development and coding would all be done in an open way with everything open source. This way it's very hard for people to screw other people because everything is out in the open. It is a form of central planning but it's not a top-down system where certain people decide things for others, it's a system where the hierarchy is flat instead of top-down.

This means that people contribute based on what their qualifications are and what project they want to contribute to. No one is superior to one another but different skills would lead to different responsibilities. I do not claim that there could not be corruption in a system like this. No system is, and never will be, perfect. But I do claim that it could be much better than what we have now.

Getting the right qualifications for certain type of work would be more straightforward than it is now. All education is free of course and there would be a lot of flexibility. One could simply self-study and then pass the required tests and receive a certificate and then you would have the qualifications to participate in a project you like.

This is a good point, there are many obstacles to overcome. In case of a real life town experiment it would have to be done in a country where it's safe and legal to do so.

This is when I begin to get really scared of you people.

Your opinion. I missed the section on state corporatism in Macroeconomics. Eminent domain has been law long before Walmart.

Receptors are proteins found in the membrane (boundry) of your cells, one type of cell is a neuron. receptors are there to tell the cell about its external environment such as when neurotransmitters and shit like that are around. This could lead to stuff happening within the neuron, for example, causing a neuron releasing its own transmitters to the next neuron in the network. A mirror neuron is one that is hooked up to your sensory organs to fire when you observe someone doing something... and that also fires when you do it yourself. I hope that makes sense.

Is imagination real? Maybe so in Imaginationland.
Mirror Neuron Receptors are what invoke physiological emotional responses to what others appear to be experiencing.