Topic: OccupyLA on 10/1 !! We will be there in Bitcoin Attire! Financial Revolution! - page 4. (Read 7996 times)

Let me just weigh in as an unabashed socialist if I may...


And Bitcoin is going to end corruption?  Pipe dream.  Our current monetary systems have a level of entrenched corruption which is difficult to break out of.  The (second) best I am hoping for in Bitcoin is that it provides some lubricant to make the break-out possible.

I mostly fear a 'one world' control structure/currency system, or one in a more blatant form than we have today (demonstrating that socialists can be as wacko-conspiracy-minded as anyone and probably breaking some myths about the preferences of socialists.)  The first best I am hoping for is that Bitcoin or a descendant provides a viable alternative if and when a one-world currency as presented as the only answer to our problems.

BTW, I like capitalism very much.  It's obvious that it is the only engine with the power to keep a modest sized society comfortable and well fed.  Even the communist Chinese figured that one out, and I doubt that it's utility has gone past many of the protesters.  My bet is that they are angry at exactly the corruption that WiseOldOwl is SHOUTING about.


Mussolini had a term for that.  Fascism.  And who better would know?  I personally feel that we (in the US) are much farther down _that_ road than a lot of people imagine, and the road ahead has been paved at this time.


Greed is baked into our DNA...if it were not, we would not be here (which a lot of my ilk seem to have trouble accepting.)  But so is fear.

Bitcoin appeals to me because it could be forcible taken from everyone by a simple majority (with some padding) via a software update.  This could provide the 'FEAR' necessary to keep abuse of the system to a tolerable level.  In this way, even _I_ have some reservations about the 're-distributitative' nature of Bitcoin.  The 'have-not's could rape the 'have's so fast and so hard their heads would spin, and for no particularly fair reason other than that they can.  I'm surprised that it is so popular amongst some of you folks (but maybe that is because I don't really understand anachro-capitalism as well as I should...I read a bit about it the other day.  It's kind of fascinating actually and does not seem to be exactly what I thought it was.)


The more that wealth and power accumulates to a small fraction of the population, the more some of you people carry on about 'socialism' and 're-distribution.'  Handy for the small fraction of people with all the poker chips.  Funny that.  We don't even have universal health care for Christ's sake!  Forgive me if I question some of you folks's powers of analysis and resistance to propaganda (but I'm not expecting that you will )  While everything is something of a gradation, I'd say that Sweden is socialist while he US is more fascist.

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Very well said.  Do you have any articles or blog posts to further clarify this for people? It's not an idea that is heard often in politics today.

This is just a well put statement^^^
+1 Thanx for the clarification. If this is what corporatism is, (the ability of government and corporations to coerce, then steal, and manipulate), then that is what our problem is.

Corruption is a bit vague... it's better defined as "corporatism," or the ability of government and corporations to coerce, steal, and manipulate.

The protesters need to understand that greed isn't a problem so long as the greedy are not able to subsidize their recklessness with taxpayer money or special regulatory protection.

And America is very much a socialist country... that's the ironic part of these protests. They're protesting like we had capitalism to blame for this 

+1 kjj

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLvTPOnj3bg

at 1:43, the black shirt being held up smack dab in the middle is a

"I use coins"
Bitcoin.org
Shirt.
When some of the nice up close pics come out, we will find them and post

Im searching through whatever is already posted for bitcoin shots

Ok,
I printed 500 of the first flyer, and handed a bunch out at the event.

As an outlet to increase bitcoin use, it was a great event.

ButThis statement  carries some serious validity.
The vast majority of the people at this event were so very confused and misguided it was absurd. There are so many conflicting views it is pretty weird.
Let me make a statement to the world and directly to the, well, retarded communist groups out there.

CAPITALISM IS NOT THE PROBLEM...CORRUPTION IS.

I cant believe how these people bash capitalism,
Real capitalism wouldn't of bailed out a failing business, you let them die and squirm who cares.
These people think we are still a fully capitalist country and dont realize it is liberal red tape and laws that cause the problems they are unhappy with. They then assume that capitalism is bad under the false pretense that it has something to do with all the scams perpetrated by corrupt govt. officials. and businessmen who corrupt them. (It still is not the businessman's fault if the govt. official takes the bribe, because in this situation the businessman is doing his job and doing something positive for his business, and the official is obviously doing the opposite of what is right for his "business", the people.)
Basically it is just corrupt govt. and that is our one problem, it has been since they signed the fed into action, it has been since they suspended habeus corpus, that has been the main problem, the root, the other issues can be attributed to this if you follow their history.

They dont realize that reducing govt. and rules will allow us to prevail as we used too.
I love america and still want to help the people even if they are confused and misguided. They will understand when it is all over.

Good luck to everyone heading out to the protests...I hope you have better luck than the nearest protest to me. 

http://downtownspokane.kxly.com/news/community-spirit/60350-occupy-spokane-protesters-ordered-remove-tent-shelters

We do need to combine the two projects in my opinion, resources created for one can easily be modified for the other.
as far as posters go a small set of these was sent down with the 1k buisness cards i printed for wallstreet

As a flyer, actually, I think this would work beautifully. 

http://operationbitcoin.org/wallst/#

Please don't advise them to mess with clients and block chains and all that stuff. For newbs, recommend an ewallet - like instawallet or BTCinch. With a BTCinch account you automatically make a "donate" button, edit the code or graphic, and stick on the website.

The desktop client is a Bitcoin 102 lesson, not a Bitcoin 101 lesson.

I've added a line in the "Decentralized" section to mention "open source".

The flyer looks pretty good in my opinion.

I wish it made some mention of open source as I feel that this property lends great credibility to the project.

One of the reasons I am cautiously optimistic about the Bitcoin system is that it has by now been analysed to some level of detail by some competent scientists and engineers, and (amazingly) no glaring showstoppers seem to have jumped out.  At least not any that I am aware of.

If somehow the concept that the Bitcoin system is open source and has had a not insignificant amount of scrutiny by many diverse parties, I think that would be a good addition and worth trying to shoe-horn in.

I think that's a good start.  I also think that the fliers ought to be targeted more directly at the intended audience.  Off the top of my head, something like this might be more attention grabbing in this context:

It's Time For Change - Broaden Your Peaceful Protest Of The Corrupt Banking System By Supporting A Distributed Digital Medium Of Exchange.

I have created a flyer and here it is:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B1UsG65HCLkuZTVmMTVlZjMtYjgwMC00YWQzLThlNjEtZWYyOGIyOTRiMTFk&hl=en


I have also added this to my blog on the right hand side at http://www.bitcoinblogger.com

You have the worldview of a small child.

Well, that or a member of the College Republicans club, but it's kind of hard to tell the two apart.

'group displays of social posturing' have probably a better track record of effecting change than shifting bits around.  But more and more the two are working in conjunction with one another which I see as a welcome thing.  Do you really know enough of the participants of the Occupy-x protests to belittle the entire group?  I don't, and I don't have a easy access to the mainstream media to help me understand these people.  One of these days I'll go find out for myself.

Hmm.  Slogans for Occupy protests.

How about these?

"I'm pissed at my dad, but he isn't here, so I'm going to antagonize some cops instead!"

"I have $100,000 in student loans for my sociology degree, and I don't want to accept responsibility for my poor decisions!"

"It isn't fair that other people became successful while I was wasting my life!"

I dislike our current monetary system as much as the next guy (actually, more than most, I'd say), but these protests aren't about that, and even if they were, they wouldn't accomplish anything anyway.  If you can create a few new bitcoin enthusiasts, great.  Or if you can pick up a naive coed by showing her that you care about "the issues", that's fine too.  But don't fool yourself into thinking that these events are anything but group displays of social posturing.