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I know that everyone waiting for 2nd September. The best and most amazing match between Pakistan and India. Let's check both teams head to head. India and Pakistan played 132 matches with each other, and India won 55 matches in ODI, Pakistan won 73 matches, and 4 matches ended without a result. India and Pakistan played 59 matches with each other, and India won 9 matches in ODI, Pakistan won 12 matches, and 38 matches ended without a result.  India and Pakistan played 12 matches with each other, and India won 9 matches in ODI, Pakistan won 3 matches, and 0 matches ended without a result. So, the total is India won 73 matches overall and Pakistan won 88 matches overall. According, to the previous matches results can win this match. But India also has a very good team. So, let's see who will win this match.
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Oh "Warning" doesn't sound good to me because it comes from the same school of thought "Spirit of the game". It baffles me how hard is to stay in the crease for non-strikers. Where does this spirit of the game vanish when batters knick to slip, keeper, or close fielders but refuse to walk out voluntarily?

I opted for 6 runs penalty because when the bowler steps out of the line for even mm, it's a no ball (Should the umpire also warn bowlers for not overstepping?) and the batting team gets a free hit so it sounded fair to me.

Well.. agreed with this. Cricket is known as a batsmen's game exactly due to these sort of rules (and expectations). It is OK for the batsmen to step outside the crease, while it is not being allowed for the bowlers. Actually the third umpire can check whether the batsman has overstepped or not, similar to what they are doing for the bowlers now. And I agree with the 6-run penalty. It sounds fair, given how much advantage the batsmen get when they break the laws of the game. Hopefully the ICC would consider changing the rules by adding a penalty clause.
Yeah, but the main problem is the majority of this "Spirit of the game" voice comes from a particular set of people who are still under the spell of the Victorian era and we have a fair amount of lackeys who do their bidding from time to time.

As i mentioned earlier, ICC will look into it if there is another controversy on the big match.

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In today's 3rd ODI match, Pakistan scored 268 runs in the first innings. Pakistan's batting performance today was not very good due to which they could not score runs like in the second ODI match. But in today's match, it cannot be said for sure whether Pakistan will win or lose, if Afghanistan batsmen can bat well, then there is a possibility of winning. In today's match, Pakistan batsman Babar Azam has done an amazing batting, he scored 60 runs off 86 balls and scored a half century. On the other hand, another great batsman Mohammad Rizwan batted brilliantly and he scored 67 runs off 79 balls unbeaten to score a half century. Every batsman batted well but could not score many runs however if they can bowl well in today's match Pakistan can definitely be expected to win.
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Third match of Afghanistan vs Pakistan OD series. Pakistan won the toss and decided to bat. Batting the stipulated 50 overs, he lost 8 wickets and collected 268 runs. Pakistan's batting was not very good today. Mohammad Rizwan and Babar Azam both of them played well today, except for the two of them, no other batsman could score 50+ runs. Mohammad Rizwan scored 67 runs, Babar Azam scored 60 runs. Afghanistan will have to bat on a target of 169 runs, today the target in the match is less runs. Afghanistan has a higher chance of winning than Pakistan in today's match. However, it cannot be said for sure that Afghanistan will win. If we look at the first match, we can see that Afghanistan's batting line is weak. Let's see which team can win in the end.
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I think Pakistan batting first is a good decision. But after batting carefully both openiors are gone Now the Current score of Pakistan is 59 runs in a loss of 2 wickets in 16 Overs. Farkhar Zaman only scored 27 runs in 33 balls and Imam Ul Haq 13 runs in 30 balls. Babar Azam is playing at 16 runs not out in just 27 balls and Muhammad Rizwan is playing at 2 runs. This partnership is very crucial if Babar and Rizwan make a 100 plus partnership then Pakistan to win this match. The next batter Soud Shakeel made his debut today his batting is also very amazing to watch. From Afghanistan 2 wickets pick Gulbadin Naib by giving 10 runs in 4 overs. An amazing display of bowling performance from Afghanistan. If Pakistan makes 250 plus runs it is a good target.

Pakistan at the moment struggling to score runs. Pakistan in 24th over going with scoring rate of 3.30 and that tells how hard it is to score runs. The Colombo surface is not ideal for batting and its already evident from Pakistani batting. The way Babr and Rizwan are batting it looks like Pakistan may only be able to score 200 runs.
One disappointing thing from this series is the involvement of crowd in the stadium. Locals have shown zero interest in this series and stadiums are empty throughout this series. 
Basically, Pakistan's focus on this match is very low as they have secured the series. The win or loss of this match is not so important for the Pakistan team. But the match win is very important for Pakistan supporters gamblers. Around the final match of the ODI series, many gamblers have placed their bets in favor of the Pakistan team. If the Pakistan team loses today's match then Pakistan supporters gamblers will have to pay a huge amount of money.

Yes, almost everyone from Pakistan would be putting money on their team win today and why not, they want their team to be at the No. 1 spot of the ODI ranking and this will only happen if they win today's match.
Now when we see the match, Pakistan haven't been able to score some big runs today and they may end up scoring something between 250 -260 runs.

If we look at the last match performances of both teams, it seems that Afghanistan are capable of anything under 275 and we are up for another thriller ODI match.
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I think Pakistan batting first is a good decision. But after batting carefully both openiors are gone Now the Current score of Pakistan is 59 runs in a loss of 2 wickets in 16 Overs. Farkhar Zaman only scored 27 runs in 33 balls and Imam Ul Haq 13 runs in 30 balls. Babar Azam is playing at 16 runs not out in just 27 balls and Muhammad Rizwan is playing at 2 runs. This partnership is very crucial if Babar and Rizwan make a 100 plus partnership then Pakistan to win this match. The next batter Soud Shakeel made his debut today his batting is also very amazing to watch. From Afghanistan 2 wickets pick Gulbadin Naib by giving 10 runs in 4 overs. An amazing display of bowling performance from Afghanistan. If Pakistan makes 250 plus runs it is a good target.

Pakistan at the moment struggling to score runs. Pakistan in 24th over going with scoring rate of 3.30 and that tells how hard it is to score runs. The Colombo surface is not ideal for batting and its already evident from Pakistani batting. The way Babr and Rizwan are batting it looks like Pakistan may only be able to score 200 runs.
One disappointing thing from this series is the involvement of crowd in the stadium. Locals have shown zero interest in this series and stadiums are empty throughout this series. 
After 30th Over Pakistan improved his run rate by scoring 85 runs in 10 overs. Now Pakistan score is 200 in a loss of 6 wickets in 43 Overs. Salman Ali Agha is playing at 9 not out and Muhammad Nawaz is playing at 3. Babar Azam scored 60 runs a good partnership between Babar Azam and Muhammad Rizwan scored 67 runs. Rashid Khan picked Babar Azam wickets. Unfortunately Soud Shakeel is run out in 9 runs 5 balls. Mujeeb Ur Rahman amazing bowling picked 1 wicket by just giving 50 runs in 10 Overs. I think Pakistan will give a 250 plus target for Afghanistan because 7 overs remaining and two Batsmen are playing. And 250 plus is a good total in this pitch Pakistan also have a quality bowling line.
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At this time, Pakistan lost their 2 good players Imam Ul Haq and Fakhar Zaman in the first 10 overs but also these two epic players playing on the ground Babar Azam and Rizwan. They both are amazing players but both are cant play Afghanistan bowling comfortably. In this match, both teams have many replacements. Pakistan completed a 100 score with full of struggle, and this is a very important match for Pakistan because if Pakistan wins this match, so Pakistan become the no.1 ODI team.  
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I think Pakistan batting first is a good decision. But after batting carefully both openiors are gone Now the Current score of Pakistan is 59 runs in a loss of 2 wickets in 16 Overs. Farkhar Zaman only scored 27 runs in 33 balls and Imam Ul Haq 13 runs in 30 balls. Babar Azam is playing at 16 runs not out in just 27 balls and Muhammad Rizwan is playing at 2 runs. This partnership is very crucial if Babar and Rizwan make a 100 plus partnership then Pakistan to win this match. The next batter Soud Shakeel made his debut today his batting is also very amazing to watch. From Afghanistan 2 wickets pick Gulbadin Naib by giving 10 runs in 4 overs. An amazing display of bowling performance from Afghanistan. If Pakistan makes 250 plus runs it is a good target.

Pakistan at the moment struggling to score runs. Pakistan in 24th over going with scoring rate of 3.30 and that tells how hard it is to score runs. The Colombo surface is not ideal for batting and its already evident from Pakistani batting. The way Babr and Rizwan are batting it looks like Pakistan may only be able to score 200 runs.
One disappointing thing from this series is the involvement of crowd in the stadium. Locals have shown zero interest in this series and stadiums are empty throughout this series. 
Basically, Pakistan's focus on this match is very low as they have secured the series. The win or loss of this match is not so important for the Pakistan team. But the match win is very important for Pakistan supporters gamblers. Around the final match of the ODI series, many gamblers have placed their bets in favor of the Pakistan team. If the Pakistan team loses today's match then Pakistan supporters gamblers will have to pay a huge amount of money.
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I think Pakistan batting first is a good decision. But after batting carefully both openiors are gone Now the Current score of Pakistan is 59 runs in a loss of 2 wickets in 16 Overs. Farkhar Zaman only scored 27 runs in 33 balls and Imam Ul Haq 13 runs in 30 balls. Babar Azam is playing at 16 runs not out in just 27 balls and Muhammad Rizwan is playing at 2 runs. This partnership is very crucial if Babar and Rizwan make a 100 plus partnership then Pakistan to win this match. The next batter Soud Shakeel made his debut today his batting is also very amazing to watch. From Afghanistan 2 wickets pick Gulbadin Naib by giving 10 runs in 4 overs. An amazing display of bowling performance from Afghanistan. If Pakistan makes 250 plus runs it is a good target.

Pakistan at the moment struggling to score runs. Pakistan in 24th over going with scoring rate of 3.30 and that tells how hard it is to score runs. The Colombo surface is not ideal for batting and its already evident from Pakistani batting. The way Babr and Rizwan are batting it looks like Pakistan may only be able to score 200 runs.
One disappointing thing from this series is the involvement of crowd in the stadium. Locals have shown zero interest in this series and stadiums are empty throughout this series. 
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Pakistan Vs Afghanistan 3rd ODI
The 3rd T20 match between Pakistan and Afghanistan was played today at 2:30 PM. I think Pakistan will make 2 changes in Squad Suod Shakkel and Tayyib Tahir will be played today and make an Odi debt. Faheem Ashraf may also play if any fast bowler Naseem or Shaheen Shah Rested Today. Suod Shakeel will replace Agha Suleman in the 3rd and Final ODI match he is a great player. Muhammad Nawaz will also play instead of Usama Mir. If the Pakistan team wins this match Pakistan is on top ICC ranking posting. But the Afghanistan team strongly came back to avoid a whitewash in the Series. I hope Pakistan will win this series with lead of 3-0.

Pakistan captain Babar Azam won the toss and decided to bat today. Pakistan's opening pair is batting very carefully today. They haven't lost a single wicket in 8 overs yet. Fakhar Zaman scored 25 runs unbeaten. On the other hand, Imam Ul Haque collected only 9 runs from 21 balls. Imam Ul Haque's batting looks like he wants to stay at the crease today at any cost. The pitch seems to be bowling friendly, so the batsmen should try to stay in the crease. Playing too aggressively is likely to result in quick wickets.

Pakistan has already won the series by winning the first two matches. So today's match is not very important for Pakistan. Still, Pakistan will try their best to win today's match. Because this is the last match before the Asia Cup. They want to increase their confidence by winning this match. Pakistan's aim in the Asia Cup is undoubtedly to become champions.
I think Pakistan batting first is a good decision. But after batting carefully both openiors are gone Now the Current score of Pakistan is 59 runs in a loss of 2 wickets in 16 Overs. Farkhar Zaman only scored 27 runs in 33 balls and Imam Ul Haq 13 runs in 30 balls. Babar Azam is playing at 16 runs not out in just 27 balls and Muhammad Rizwan is playing at 2 runs. This partnership is very crucial if Babar and Rizwan make a 100 plus partnership then Pakistan to win this match. The next batter Soud Shakeel made his debut today his batting is also very amazing to watch. From Afghanistan 2 wickets pick Gulbadin Naib by giving 10 runs in 4 overs. An amazing display of bowling performance from Afghanistan. If Pakistan makes 250 plus runs it is a good target.
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Oh "Warning" doesn't sound good to me because it comes from the same school of thought "Spirit of the game". It baffles me how hard is to stay in the crease for non-strikers. Where does this spirit of the game vanish when batters knick to slip, keeper, or close fielders but refuse to walk out voluntarily?

I opted for 6 runs penalty because when the bowler steps out of the line for even mm, it's a no ball (Should the umpire also warn bowlers for not overstepping?) and the batting team gets a free hit so it sounded fair to me.

Well.. agreed with this. Cricket is known as a batsmen's game exactly due to these sort of rules (and expectations). It is OK for the batsmen to step outside the crease, while it is not being allowed for the bowlers. Actually the third umpire can check whether the batsman has overstepped or not, similar to what they are doing for the bowlers now. And I agree with the 6-run penalty. It sounds fair, given how much advantage the batsmen get when they break the laws of the game. Hopefully the ICC would consider changing the rules by adding a penalty clause.
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Pakistan Vs Afghanistan 3rd ODI
The 3rd T20 match between Pakistan and Afghanistan was played today at 2:30 PM. I think Pakistan will make 2 changes in Squad Suod Shakkel and Tayyib Tahir will be played today and make an Odi debt. Faheem Ashraf may also play if any fast bowler Naseem or Shaheen Shah Rested Today. Suod Shakeel will replace Agha Suleman in the 3rd and Final ODI match he is a great player. Muhammad Nawaz will also play instead of Usama Mir. If the Pakistan team wins this match Pakistan is on top ICC ranking posting. But the Afghanistan team strongly came back to avoid a whitewash in the Series. I hope Pakistan will win this series with lead of 3-0.

Pakistan captain Babar Azam won the toss and decided to bat today. Pakistan's opening pair is batting very carefully today. They haven't lost a single wicket in 8 overs yet. Fakhar Zaman scored 25 runs unbeaten. On the other hand, Imam Ul Haque collected only 9 runs from 21 balls. Imam Ul Haque's batting looks like he wants to stay at the crease today at any cost. The pitch seems to be bowling friendly, so the batsmen should try to stay in the crease. Playing too aggressively is likely to result in quick wickets.

Pakistan has already won the series by winning the first two matches. So today's match is not very important for Pakistan. Still, Pakistan will try their best to win today's match. Because this is the last match before the Asia Cup. They want to increase their confidence by winning this match. Pakistan's aim in the Asia Cup is undoubtedly to become champions.

Pakistan lost their first wicket at the end of the eighth over. Fakhar Zaman returned to the fold after collecting 27 runs. As you said, Pakistan batsmen should bat slower today. There is no need to score too many runs in the first 30-35 overs. They should try not to lose wickets. On a pitch where the bowlers are getting a lot of advantage. If Pakistan start losing wickets they will not be able to score even 200 runs. The pair of Babar and Imam need to bat responsibly and stay at the crease for a long time. Mohammad Rezwan is not in good form, so don't expect a big innings from him. Imam Ul Haque needs to continue his good performance. If they can score more than 260 in today's match I guess Pakistan will win. But it is very difficult to predict the performance of Pakistan players.
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Pakistan Vs Afghanistan 3rd ODI
The 3rd T20 match between Pakistan and Afghanistan was played today at 2:30 PM. I think Pakistan will make 2 changes in Squad Suod Shakkel and Tayyib Tahir will be played today and make an Odi debt. Faheem Ashraf may also play if any fast bowler Naseem or Shaheen Shah Rested Today. Suod Shakeel will replace Agha Suleman in the 3rd and Final ODI match he is a great player. Muhammad Nawaz will also play instead of Usama Mir. If the Pakistan team wins this match Pakistan is on top ICC ranking posting. But the Afghanistan team strongly came back to avoid a whitewash in the Series. I hope Pakistan will win this series with lead of 3-0.

Pakistan captain Babar Azam won the toss and decided to bat today. Pakistan's opening pair is batting very carefully today. They haven't lost a single wicket in 8 overs yet. Fakhar Zaman scored 25 runs unbeaten. On the other hand, Imam Ul Haque collected only 9 runs from 21 balls. Imam Ul Haque's batting looks like he wants to stay at the crease today at any cost. The pitch seems to be bowling friendly, so the batsmen should try to stay in the crease. Playing too aggressively is likely to result in quick wickets.

Pakistan has already won the series by winning the first two matches. So today's match is not very important for Pakistan. Still, Pakistan will try their best to win today's match. Because this is the last match before the Asia Cup. They want to increase their confidence by winning this match. Pakistan's aim in the Asia Cup is undoubtedly to become champions.
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Banning would be an overreaction but giving a penalty of 6 runs would be amazing but i think ICC is looking for some big controversy in some important match, similar to 2019 WC final.
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I was actually going to type "warning", but incorrectly typed as "banning".. sorry for that. Now it is being assumed that bowlers need to warn the batsmen for stepping outside the crease (some of the bowlers do that, for the "spirit of the game", while others stick to the rule and run them out). So if there is a need to warn the batsmen, then it should be the duty of the umpire to do that. And I like the idea of deducting 6 runs as penalty. I was actually thinking about a penalty of 1 run, but then it won't be enough to stop this practice of getting undue advantage.
Oh "Warning" doesn't sound good to me because it comes from the same school of thought "Spirit of the game". It baffles me how hard is to stay in the crease for non-strikers. Where does this spirit of the game vanish when batters knick to slip, keeper, or close fielders but refuse to walk out voluntarily?

I opted for 6 runs penalty because when the bowler steps out of the line for even mm, it's a no ball (Should the umpire also warn bowlers for not overstepping?) and the batting team gets a free hit so it sounded fair to me.
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In all the three Matches the toss winning team had decided to bat first. In this match once again Pakistan have won the toss and decided to bat. Past two matches were played in Rajapaksa International Cricket stadium. This time the venue is different and in the Premadasa stadium the average score is around 250 runs. The winning percentage of teams batting first and bowling bowling first hadn't got much difference. Expect this match to be different from the first two matches.
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Today is the match of Pakistan vs Afghanistan 3rd ODI. The match starts at 2:30 pm. According, to the last two matches Pakistan had a chance to win this, In the first match Pakistan won easily but in the second match, Pakistan won again but not easily, The second match was too hard for both teams. So, must watch today's match because the Pakistan vs Afghanistan series is very interesting.

Pakistan has already won the series 2-0. And I don't think that Afghanistan has a lot of positives to take away from the first two matches. Today is a prestige match for them. They should try hard not to get whitewashed by Pakistan. But weakness at crucial points would be an issue for them. Pakistan on the other hand doesn't have much to play for. They have already won the series and may be looking forward to test some of their younger players for today's match. This series will act as a morale booster ahead of the Asia Cup, and also for the ODI World Cup.
Afghanistan wants to win this match to avoid whitewash. Pakistan have already confirmed its series win. We know that Pakistan is strong enough to win the match, and Afghanistan is performing good in the previous match. Maybe something similar in the last match will make it an interesting one to watch. Both the teams find this series a opportunity to improve and understand well about the position of the players.
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Pakistan Vs Afghanistan 3rd T20
The 3rd T20 match between Pakistan and Afghanistan was played today at 2:30 PM. I think Pakistan will make 2 changes in Squad Suod Shakkel and Tayyib Tahir will be played today and make an Odi debt. Faheem Ashraf may also play if any fast bowler Naseem or Shaheen Shah Rested Today. Suod Shakeel will replace Agha Suleman in the 3rd and Final ODI match he is a great player. Muhammad Nawaz will also play instead of Usama Mir. If the Pakistan team wins this match Pakistan is on top ICC ranking posting. But the Afghanistan team strongly came back to avoid a whitewash in the Series. I hope Pakistan will win this series with lead of 3-0.
Afghanistan and Pakistan will play each other in the third and final ODI match. Instead of Pakistan only whitewashing Afghanistan, Afghanistan is left to avoid the shame of whitewashing against Pakistan. Pakistan won the second match with a lot of fight. If Afghanistan could have won the second match, the third ODI would have been the final match for Afghanistan Pakistan, but Afghanistan failed to create a chance to win in the end. Afghanistan managed to score big in the second ODI match but we won't see big scores from Afghanistan in the third match as the two opening batsmen were the biggest contributors behind the big score in the second match. Both the openers did well in the second match so we cannot expect the same performance from them in the third match as in the second match.
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Today is the match of Pakistan vs Afghanistan 3rd ODI. The match starts at 2:30 pm. According, to the last two matches Pakistan had a chance to win this, In the first match Pakistan won easily but in the second match, Pakistan won again but not easily, The second match was too hard for both teams. So, must watch today's match because the Pakistan vs Afghanistan series is very interesting.

Pakistan has already won the series 2-0. And I don't think that Afghanistan has a lot of positives to take away from the first two matches. Today is a prestige match for them. They should try hard not to get whitewashed by Pakistan. But weakness at crucial points would be an issue for them. Pakistan on the other hand doesn't have much to play for. They have already won the series and may be looking forward to test some of their younger players for today's match. This series will act as a morale booster ahead of the Asia Cup, and also for the ODI World Cup.
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Today is the match of Pakistan vs Afghanistan 3rd ODI. The match starts at 2:30 pm. According, to the last two matches Pakistan had a chance to win this, In the first match Pakistan won easily but in the second match, Pakistan won again but not easily, The second match was too hard for both teams. So, must watch today's match because the Pakistan vs Afghanistan series is very interesting.
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Very true. One sided matches are usually boring as hell which is why these neck to neck matches are just what viewers require though the T-20 format elevates this excitement to another level.

I hope the upcoming Asia Cup and World Cup can deliver many such matches to make them memorable.

T20 is getting popular day by day and ODI and test are losing popularity. In the long run there won't be much ODI and test. A t20 match is like a football match that is completed in 3 to 4 hours.
Coming ODI worldcup will give a good idea about future of this format. You need a complete day to Watch an ODI and not many people have that much spare time. ICC should do something different to bring in interest of viewers in ODI.
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