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Quote from: laurenB7742 on May 09, 2023, 12:48:01 AM

Ireland - Bangladesh

I am looking forward to Bangladesh vs Ireland series. Today the first ODI match of the series is going to be played in Chelmsford.
The Bangladesh team is in very good form now in the ODI format. In the last two series, Bangladesh dominated and won against England and Ireland. The players of Bangladesh did a great performance. However, series two was Bangladesh's home match. And the Bangladesh team at home is always strong. However, this series against Ireland is going to be held in England. England pitches generally provide more support to pace bowlers. And so I am waiting to see how Bangladesh players perform on such a pitch. But I think the Bangladesh team will maintain their consistency. And Bangladesh will win this series by dominating against Ireland.

Ireland won the toss and took the fielding decision. And at the beginning of the innings, Ireland's bowlers managed to take the wicket of Liton Das. Liton Das failed to collect any runs in the first round. He returned to the dressing room with the first ball. Liton Das has played well in the last few series. So the expectation was that he would maintain consistency.
Tamim Iqbal and Shanto are batting now. If these two batsmen are not able to play well, if they are not able to form a big partnership, then it will be difficult to collect big scores in today's match.

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Quote from: romero121 on May 08, 2023, 03:06:48 PM

Important information regarding the Asia Cup 2023 have come from the Asian Cricket Council that the Asia Cup likely to be hosted by Sri Lanka. This had come as a result of BCCI announcement that India won't travel to Pakistan for Asia Cup matches. With this the participation of Pakistan is unclear. Sources state that Pakistan might boycott the tournament.

Pakistan continue to conduct the tournament in home with India matches alone played in Dubai. The broadcasters hadn't shown interest on it along with the summer being very hard in Dubai which makes it difficult for the players. Even Oman have requested to host the tournament.

It seems Bangladesh & Afghanistan had also voted for the Asia cup to be shifted out of Pakistan and to be hosted in Srilanka. Now the only option left for Pakistan to boycott the tournament. Bad news for cricket fans who wanted to see these two teams play against each other.

It is also unclear now what will be PCB's stand on the ODIWC. I do not think they can boycott the ICC tournament but I am sure they will ask ICC to shift their matches from India.

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Ireland - Bangladesh

I am looking forward to Bangladesh vs Ireland series. Today the first ODI match of the series is going to be played in Chelmsford.
The Bangladesh team is in very good form now in the ODI format. In the last two series, Bangladesh dominated and won against England and Ireland. The players of Bangladesh did a great performance. However, series two was Bangladesh's home match. And the Bangladesh team at home is always strong. However, this series against Ireland is going to be held in England. England pitches generally provide more support to pace bowlers. And so I am waiting to see how Bangladesh players perform on such a pitch. But I think the Bangladesh team will maintain their consistency. And Bangladesh will win this series by dominating against Ireland.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on May 08, 2023, 11:01:45 PM

After winning four matches in a row against New Zealand, Pakistan moved to number one in the ODI rankings for the first time but after losing only one match against New Zealand in the fifth ODI match, Pakistan moved from number one to number three in the points table. You might wonder how the points table can change so much in just one match. The ODI ranking is mainly calculated by taking into account rating, rating points, and math numbers.
The last ODI match against New Zealand has changed Pakistan's rating and rating points, that's why they have again moved to number three in the points table in a gap of two days.

There is a lot of competition as far as ODI ratings are concerned. The top-4 teams (Australia, India, Pakistan and England) are separated by a few decimals each. At this point, Australia is at no.1, and they have rating of 113.29, while India at the second place is having 112.64. Pakistan is behind India after the latest defeat and their rating is 111.60. Anyway, these ratings change constantly and doesn't matter much. What matters is the performance at ODI World Cup of 2023, which is just a few months away. For Pakistan, the target is nothing short of winning the trophy this time.

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After winning four matches in a row against New Zealand, Pakistan moved to number one in the ODI rankings for the first time but after losing only one match against New Zealand in the fifth ODI match, Pakistan moved from number one to number three in the points table. You might wonder how the points table can change so much in just one match. The ODI ranking is mainly calculated by taking into account rating, rating points, and math numbers.
The last ODI match against New Zealand has changed Pakistan's rating and rating points, that's why they have again moved to number three in the points table in a gap of two days.

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Quote from: romero121 on May 08, 2023, 03:06:48 PM

Important information regarding the Asia Cup 2023 have come from the Asian Cricket Council that the Asia Cup likely to be hosted by Sri Lanka. This had come as a result of BCCI announcement that India won't travel to Pakistan for Asia Cup matches. With this the participation of Pakistan is unclear. Sources state that Pakistan might boycott the tournament.

Pakistan continue to conduct the tournament in home with India matches alone played in Dubai. The broadcasters hadn't shown interest on it along with the summer being very hard in Dubai which makes it difficult for the players. Even Oman have requested to host the tournament.

Extremely unfair for Pakistan, but this is how things work. I can understand the stance from the BCCI. But I am baffled with the politics being played by the SLCB and BCB in this instance. Rather than staying neutral, these two have openly sided with the BCCI and in the end the PCB suffers. Now what are the options left for PCB? As mentioned by romero121, one of the options would be to boycott the tournament. But a more logical option would be to demand compensation from the ACC and assurances for the future tournaments. This can't go on for ever.

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Important information regarding the Asia Cup 2023 have come from the Asian Cricket Council that the Asia Cup likely to be hosted by Sri Lanka. This had come as a result of BCCI announcement that India won't travel to Pakistan for Asia Cup matches. With this the participation of Pakistan is unclear. Sources state that Pakistan might boycott the tournament.

Pakistan continue to conduct the tournament in home with India matches alone played in Dubai. The broadcasters hadn't shown interest on it along with the summer being very hard in Dubai which makes it difficult for the players. Even Oman have requested to host the tournament.

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Quote from: romero121 on May 08, 2023, 02:02:05 PM

Match being played on England there'll be small home advantage for Ireland.

Ireland player will have the feeling of their home condition as the weather is same in England. Ireland had given a tough fight to New Zealand on their home ground in the previous year. Although they were whitewashed by New Zealand in that series, but Irish players played very well. So, I wouldn't be surprised if Ireland win a match in this ODI series on the home condition. I hope Bangladesh will win the first match easily.

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I am sure that many people will support and predict that Bangladesh will win because they are a team that cannot be underestimated, even in the last meeting Bangladesh could win the match against Ireland.
Even though Ireland will have the advantage because the match will take place in England, I still believe that Bangladesh can win like in the previous match.
So far Bangladesh has always been a good team in every match of the ODI series.

Bangladesh has been really good in last couple of series and now this is their test that they have improved to that entend or as speculations home ground advantages .
Ireland have one more chance to prove themselves.

Bangladesh is good with its performance. Ireland on the other side have shown some tremendous performance against Sri Lanka in the test match and grabbed the attention of the cricket viewers. Though Ireland lost both the test matches it could've let other teams understand the ability of each and every player. I believe this series to be really a big fighting one between the two teams. Match being played on England there'll be small home advantage for Ireland.

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Quote from: Popkon6 on May 07, 2023, 09:04:50 PM

The reason for the loss of the Pakistan team is (those who batted well in the previous 4th ODI match did not score runs in the 5th ODI match) this is the main reason for the loss of Pakistan. In the 5th ODI match, you notice that Masood, Babar Azam, Rizwan have performed very poorly in batting form. If they could have scored some runs and then the pressure on the other players would have been much less. The good batsmen collapsed in the power play which put the Pakistan team under a lot of pressure and at the end of the wicket. But if the over survived, Pakistan's victory was hidden in the survival of the wicket.
Meanwhile, New Zealand performed very well in terms of bowling due to which New Zealand's victory was assured. The small number of runs that New Zealand set was much lower than in other matches. That's why I think the biggest role behind New Zealand's victory is the bowling.

It is accurate to say that the crucial Pakistani batsmen subpar performance in the fifth ODI match contributed significantly to their defeat. The failure of Masood Babar Azam and Rizwan to repeat their batting performance from the previous game put a lot of pressure on the other players. Recognising New Zealand great bowling effort which made it challenging for Pakistan to score runs is nevertheless crucial. When it mattered most the New Zealand bowlers were able to stop Pakistan from scoring by getting wickets. New Zealand was able to defend the modest total they had posted more easily as a result. In the end, the result of the game was determined by a mix of Pakistan's subpar batting and New Zealand's superb bowling.

Disappointing performance from Pakistan in the last match. I thought they are going to whitewash New Zealand. The batting performance from Pakistan was not good at all in this match.

Well, we all saw that we actually thought Pakistan easily win. But Pakistan had a collapse in the batting lineup. Only two individual scores to speak of. Agha and Iftikhar played well for Pakistan. There is actually nothing much to speak of. I wouldn't say it was something outstanding from New Zealand. It was actually a shitty performance from Pakistan.

In this match, New Zealand was not able to give a big target. But Pakistan could have won the match if their opening batsmen had formed a good partnership. Later the middle order batsmen could not stay on the pitch for long. The New Zealand bowlers managed to take the wickets of Pakistan's opening batsmen in the early stages, making the match very easy for New Zealand to win.

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Quote from: Popkon6 on May 07, 2023, 09:04:50 PM

The reason for the loss of the Pakistan team is (those who batted well in the previous 4th ODI match did not score runs in the 5th ODI match) this is the main reason for the loss of Pakistan. In the 5th ODI match, you notice that Masood, Babar Azam, Rizwan have performed very poorly in batting form. If they could have scored some runs and then the pressure on the other players would have been much less. The good batsmen collapsed in the power play which put the Pakistan team under a lot of pressure and at the end of the wicket. But if the over survived, Pakistan's victory was hidden in the survival of the wicket.
Meanwhile, New Zealand performed very well in terms of bowling due to which New Zealand's victory was assured. The small number of runs that New Zealand set was much lower than in other matches. That's why I think the biggest role behind New Zealand's victory is the bowling.

It is accurate to say that the crucial Pakistani batsmen subpar performance in the fifth ODI match contributed significantly to their defeat. The failure of Masood Babar Azam and Rizwan to repeat their batting performance from the previous game put a lot of pressure on the other players. Recognising New Zealand great bowling effort which made it challenging for Pakistan to score runs is nevertheless crucial. When it mattered most the New Zealand bowlers were able to stop Pakistan from scoring by getting wickets. New Zealand was able to defend the modest total they had posted more easily as a result. In the end, the result of the game was determined by a mix of Pakistan's subpar batting and New Zealand's superb bowling.

Disappointing performance from Pakistan in the last match. I thought they are going to whitewash New Zealand. The batting performance from Pakistan was not good at all in this match.

Well, we all saw that we actually thought Pakistan easily win. But Pakistan had a collapse in the batting lineup. Only two individual scores to speak of. Agha and Iftikhar played well for Pakistan. There is actually nothing much to speak of. I wouldn't say it was something outstanding from New Zealand. It was actually a shitty performance from Pakistan.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on May 08, 2023, 01:37:44 AM

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I am sure that many people will support and predict that Bangladesh will win because they are a team that cannot be underestimated, even in the last meeting Bangladesh could win the match against Ireland.
Even though Ireland will have the advantage because the match will take place in England, I still believe that Bangladesh can win like in the previous match.
So far Bangladesh has always been a good team in every match of the ODI series.

Bangladesh has been really good in last couple of series and now this is their test that they have improved to that entend or as speculations home ground advantages .
Ireland have one more chance to prove themselves.

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Quote from: BobK71 on May 08, 2023, 12:24:29 AM

In any cricket series continuous win is not impossible. There has been a lot of criticism about Pakistan cricket since the Pakistan T20 series has been drawn. In view of that, their major changes have been noticed in the ODI series. They have won the series on the one hand by winning four matches and on the other they are now in the top position in international cricket. Yesterday if the New Zealand team lost the match, it would have been a big shame for them, but by winning the last match, they would be relieved of that situation.

In sports everything is possible but as we have recently few things about Pakistan we can expect results like these specially when we have 4 - 0 then we can expect performance like this from winning team, but sad part is now just after 46 hours Pakistan is third ranked team in ICC which is surely needed to be clarified from them because they were aware about this all but still give performance like this.

New Zealand done good job in throughout the series as they were here with their reserve players but still have T20i series draw and at the end ODI series lost but at high note good results from few youngsters as well which can help them for their preparations for the ODI world cup which is also going to be played in India after five months.

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Quote from: romero121 on May 07, 2023, 06:48:31 PM

The top order failed and Pakistan have lost the match. In the previous matches, even at the failure of one player the other contributed. In one match each and everyone contributed. In today's match bowling from New Zealand is good, particularly Shipley and Rachin bowled really well and took important wickets. Ifthikhar tried and continued his play, but there isn't a supporting player. These situations shouldn't arise, because it disappoints the good performer. Anyhow with the win New Zealand had avoided the series whitewash.

After win of series by four zero and having rank of ODI no 1 team they were relaxed so not give their best specially top order completely fail which cause for this defeat, and now they are also down at third spot as well but good thing with this series both teams have few good youngsters which can give them better performance in future as well in yesterday match kiwis batting line-up done good job and have target of 300 which was never been easy to achieved in these difficult conditions but Iftikhar and Salman done good job which helps them for having better end of this match even there was chance for the Iftikhar to reach his century but sadly controversial run-out not allow achieving this milestone now we have no updates about Asia Cup with long rest for the Pakistani team.

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What a balling performance by Newzealand they crushed all Pakistan main batting lineup and now Pakistan is in tough position. Honestly now Pakistan cannot win today's match as target is good and they have less batsman left .

Exactly! I was surprised when I saw the bowling of New Zealand team. In the last two matches New Zealand won the toss and elected to ball first but unfortunately they didn't won these two matches. But in the last match they played the first turn and made only 299 runs. And bowl really well and got all wickets of Pakistan and the series now end with 4-1.

I would like to say except the last match of the series, New Zealand team was struggling with their performance on the ball. While, Pakistan batsmen were not showing much responsibility, except for Iftikhar Ahmed who performed quite well. Following this win New Zealand managed to finish the five match ODI series with a consolation win. But New Zealand managed to finish on a high note, considering that their regular players were absent in this tour.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on May 08, 2023, 01:37:44 AM

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I am sure that many people will support and predict that Bangladesh will win because they are a team that cannot be underestimated, even in the last meeting Bangladesh could win the match against Ireland.
Even though Ireland will have the advantage because the match will take place in England, I still believe that Bangladesh can win like in the previous match.
So far Bangladesh has always been a good team in every match of the ODI series.

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Quote from: Popkon6 on May 07, 2023, 09:04:50 PM

The reason for the loss of the Pakistan team is (those who batted well in the previous 4th ODI match did not score runs in the 5th ODI match) this is the main reason for the loss of Pakistan. In the 5th ODI match, you notice that Masood, Babar Azam, Rizwan have performed very poorly in batting form. If they could have scored some runs and then the pressure on the other players would have been much less. The good batsmen collapsed in the power play which put the Pakistan team under a lot of pressure and at the end of the wicket. But if the over survived, Pakistan's victory was hidden in the survival of the wicket.
Meanwhile, New Zealand performed very well in terms of bowling due to which New Zealand's victory was assured. The small number of runs that New Zealand set was much lower than in other matches. That's why I think the biggest role behind New Zealand's victory is the bowling.

It is accurate to say that the crucial Pakistani batsmen subpar performance in the fifth ODI match contributed significantly to their defeat. The failure of Masood Babar Azam and Rizwan to repeat their batting performance from the previous game put a lot of pressure on the other players. Recognising New Zealand great bowling effort which made it challenging for Pakistan to score runs is nevertheless crucial. When it mattered most the New Zealand bowlers were able to stop Pakistan from scoring by getting wickets. New Zealand was able to defend the modest total they had posted more easily as a result. In the end, the result of the game was determined by a mix of Pakistan's subpar batting and New Zealand's superb bowling.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on May 07, 2023, 11:28:42 AM

What a balling performance by Newzealand they crushed all Pakistan main batting lineup and now Pakistan is in tough position. Honestly now Pakistan cannot win today's match as target is good and they have less batsman left .

Exactly! I was surprised when I saw the bowling of New Zealand team. In the last two matches New Zealand won the toss and elected to ball first but unfortunately they didn't won these two matches. But in the last match they played the first turn and made only 299 runs. And bowl really well and got all wickets of Pakistan and the series now end with 4-1.

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Today New Zealand batted well and scored 299 which is good total to defend. Will Young was in good touch and made 89. unfortunately he was out while eleven runs short for his third ton in ODI. Lithum also made fifty but other failed to make big score. NZ middle orders performance are not good and they should improve for next series.

Pakistan batting today totally failed and all big scorers Rizwan, Babar, Fakhar went to pavilion earlier and now the real test for Iftikhar and Shadab, how they handle this match. I think NZ will win this Match with 70-100 margin. Pakistan has still 6 wickets remaining but NZ today bowling is good enough to restrict them under 220.

What a balling performance by Newzealand they crushed all Pakistan main batting lineup and now Pakistan is in tough position. Honestly now Pakistan cannot win today's match as target is good and they have less batsman left .

Pakistan New Zealand played 6 matches Pakistan won four of those six meetings. New Zealand won twice. Pakistan and New Zealand have met three times in the past in the ODI and T20 World Cup semi-finals. Pakistan won the crucial match in the past by dominating it single handedly. The two teams faced each other in the series. New Zealand lost the final of that series as well. New Zealand balance team considering team combinations. Pakistan is ahead of the Kiwis considering the past matches and the recent performances of the two teams.

In my personal opinion the last match also could have ensured victory for Pakistan if Pakistan's opening batsmen had not got out early. New Zealand was able to secure victory in this match due to the excellent bowling performance of the team.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on May 07, 2023, 11:28:42 AM

Quote from: ItsCrafty on May 07, 2023, 11:22:33 AM

Today New Zealand batted well and scored 299 which is good total to defend. Will Young was in good touch and made 89. unfortunately he was out while eleven runs short for his third ton in ODI. Lithum also made fifty but other failed to make big score. NZ middle orders performance are not good and they should improve for next series.

Pakistan batting today totally failed and all big scorers Rizwan, Babar, Fakhar went to pavilion earlier and now the real test for Iftikhar and Shadab, how they handle this match. I think NZ will win this Match with 70-100 margin. Pakistan has still 6 wickets remaining but NZ today bowling is good enough to restrict them under 220.

What a balling performance by Newzealand they crushed all Pakistan main batting lineup and now Pakistan is in tough position. Honestly now Pakistan cannot win today's match as target is good and they have less batsman left .

Pakistan New Zealand played 6 matches Pakistan won four of those six meetings. New Zealand won twice. Pakistan and New Zealand have met three times in the past in the ODI and T20 World Cup semi-finals. Pakistan won the crucial match in the past by dominating it single handedly. The two teams faced each other in the series. New Zealand lost the final of that series as well. New Zealand balance team considering team combinations. Pakistan is ahead of the Kiwis considering the past matches and the recent performances of the two teams.

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