... Just another step in the right direction for all of us and BTChttp://www.coindesk.com/german-government-relieves-capital-gains-tax-on-bitcoin-positions/
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On a more positive note, check this out. This is the kind of news we all need, TH included! ... Just another step in the right direction for all of us and BTC
http://www.coindesk.com/german-government-relieves-capital-gains-tax-on-bitcoin-positions/
... Just another step in the right direction for all of us and BTChttp://www.coindesk.com/german-government-relieves-capital-gains-tax-on-bitcoin-positions/
Going to have to concur with Bargraphics.
I personally have felt very informed of their progress, and respect their work thus far. I am actually a bit confused as to all the drama regarding this. The few messages that I have sent have all been answered relatively quickly...faster than some big tech companies that is for certain. Also, regarding when your item will ship, having dealt with Paypal and their bothersome ways, I can see how they have no idea which batch you will fall into. As most purchases were done through Paypal, if they were to block the account for a significant amount of time, Terrahash has already stated they would issue refunds. Thus, we wouldn't know your place in the queue until people received their refunds and reconfirmed their payment through their new card service or chose to repay in btc. Prior to this occurring, they would simply be guesstimating. I generally prefer a definitive answer even if that takes time.
To me so far, they have satisfied their obligation to me. Emphasis on "so far." This opinion can most definitely change in the coming months. Perhaps my comfort level is quite high as I was able to briefly meet with the folks who work at their office and get a quick tour. Very friendly guys who appear quite knowledgeable. Although I would love a play by play of daily activities in their office, I realize the useless impracticality of it. Eventually, we'd just get posts from Terrahash regarding the weird weather in the bay recently or perhaps the odd explosive bowel movement.
I want to hear relevant information, and that won't come on a daily basis. Probably more likely a weekly or bi-weekly update.
-JC
I personally have felt very informed of their progress, and respect their work thus far. I am actually a bit confused as to all the drama regarding this. The few messages that I have sent have all been answered relatively quickly...faster than some big tech companies that is for certain. Also, regarding when your item will ship, having dealt with Paypal and their bothersome ways, I can see how they have no idea which batch you will fall into. As most purchases were done through Paypal, if they were to block the account for a significant amount of time, Terrahash has already stated they would issue refunds. Thus, we wouldn't know your place in the queue until people received their refunds and reconfirmed their payment through their new card service or chose to repay in btc. Prior to this occurring, they would simply be guesstimating. I generally prefer a definitive answer even if that takes time.
To me so far, they have satisfied their obligation to me. Emphasis on "so far." This opinion can most definitely change in the coming months. Perhaps my comfort level is quite high as I was able to briefly meet with the folks who work at their office and get a quick tour. Very friendly guys who appear quite knowledgeable. Although I would love a play by play of daily activities in their office, I realize the useless impracticality of it. Eventually, we'd just get posts from Terrahash regarding the weird weather in the bay recently or perhaps the odd explosive bowel movement.
I want to hear relevant information, and that won't come on a daily basis. Probably more likely a weekly or bi-weekly update.
-JC
10-4 JC thx for that tid bit
lets all move on from this issue.... 
On another note, I switched all my ol gpu miners over to litecoin mining while I uh um "wait" for my asic boards.. and am earning more money at a much faster clip now than struggling to hang on to BTC mining anymore,,,so just for those who are still mining gpu in here,,,so far it was a good move for me at this time. and LTC is up somewhat compared to BTC right now.....
and am earning more money at a much faster clip now than struggling to hang on to BTC mining anymore,,,so just for those who are still mining gpu in here,,,so far it was a good move for me at this time. and LTC is up somewhat compared to BTC right now.....This is the correct move at this point. Did the same thing recently and it is more profitable for now.
Going to have to concur with Bargraphics.
I personally have felt very informed of their progress, and respect their work thus far. I am actually a bit confused as to all the drama regarding this. The few messages that I have sent have all been answered relatively quickly...faster than some big tech companies that is for certain. Also, regarding when your item will ship, having dealt with Paypal and their bothersome ways, I can see how they have no idea which batch you will fall into. As most purchases were done through Paypal, if they were to block the account for a significant amount of time, Terrahash has already stated they would issue refunds. Thus, we wouldn't know your place in the queue until people received their refunds and reconfirmed their payment through their new card service or chose to repay in btc. Prior to this occurring, they would simply be guesstimating. I generally prefer a definitive answer even if that takes time.
To me so far, they have satisfied their obligation to me. Emphasis on "so far." This opinion can most definitely change in the coming months. Perhaps my comfort level is quite high as I was able to briefly meet with the folks who work at their office and get a quick tour. Very friendly guys who appear quite knowledgeable. Although I would love a play by play of daily activities in their office, I realize the useless impracticality of it. Eventually, we'd just get posts from Terrahash regarding the weird weather in the bay recently or perhaps the odd explosive bowel movement.
I want to hear relevant information, and that won't come on a daily basis. Probably more likely a weekly or bi-weekly update.
-JC
I personally have felt very informed of their progress, and respect their work thus far. I am actually a bit confused as to all the drama regarding this. The few messages that I have sent have all been answered relatively quickly...faster than some big tech companies that is for certain. Also, regarding when your item will ship, having dealt with Paypal and their bothersome ways, I can see how they have no idea which batch you will fall into. As most purchases were done through Paypal, if they were to block the account for a significant amount of time, Terrahash has already stated they would issue refunds. Thus, we wouldn't know your place in the queue until people received their refunds and reconfirmed their payment through their new card service or chose to repay in btc. Prior to this occurring, they would simply be guesstimating. I generally prefer a definitive answer even if that takes time.
To me so far, they have satisfied their obligation to me. Emphasis on "so far." This opinion can most definitely change in the coming months. Perhaps my comfort level is quite high as I was able to briefly meet with the folks who work at their office and get a quick tour. Very friendly guys who appear quite knowledgeable. Although I would love a play by play of daily activities in their office, I realize the useless impracticality of it. Eventually, we'd just get posts from Terrahash regarding the weird weather in the bay recently or perhaps the odd explosive bowel movement.
I want to hear relevant information, and that won't come on a daily basis. Probably more likely a weekly or bi-weekly update.
-JC
+1 Could not agree with you more.
Going to have to concur with Bargraphics.
I personally have felt very informed of their progress, and respect their work thus far. I am actually a bit confused as to all the drama regarding this. The few messages that I have sent have all been answered relatively quickly...faster than some big tech companies that is for certain. Also, regarding when your item will ship, having dealt with Paypal and their bothersome ways, I can see how they have no idea which batch you will fall into. As most purchases were done through Paypal, if they were to block the account for a significant amount of time, Terrahash has already stated they would issue refunds. Thus, we wouldn't know your place in the queue until people received their refunds and reconfirmed their payment through their new card service or chose to repay in btc. Prior to this occurring, they would simply be guesstimating. I generally prefer a definitive answer even if that takes time.
To me so far, they have satisfied their obligation to me. Emphasis on "so far." This opinion can most definitely change in the coming months. Perhaps my comfort level is quite high as I was able to briefly meet with the folks who work at their office and get a quick tour. Very friendly guys who appear quite knowledgeable. Although I would love a play by play of daily activities in their office, I realize the useless impracticality of it. Eventually, we'd just get posts from Terrahash regarding the weird weather in the bay recently or perhaps the odd explosive bowel movement.
I want to hear relevant information, and that won't come on a daily basis. Probably more likely a weekly or bi-weekly update.
-JC
I personally have felt very informed of their progress, and respect their work thus far. I am actually a bit confused as to all the drama regarding this. The few messages that I have sent have all been answered relatively quickly...faster than some big tech companies that is for certain. Also, regarding when your item will ship, having dealt with Paypal and their bothersome ways, I can see how they have no idea which batch you will fall into. As most purchases were done through Paypal, if they were to block the account for a significant amount of time, Terrahash has already stated they would issue refunds. Thus, we wouldn't know your place in the queue until people received their refunds and reconfirmed their payment through their new card service or chose to repay in btc. Prior to this occurring, they would simply be guesstimating. I generally prefer a definitive answer even if that takes time.
To me so far, they have satisfied their obligation to me. Emphasis on "so far." This opinion can most definitely change in the coming months. Perhaps my comfort level is quite high as I was able to briefly meet with the folks who work at their office and get a quick tour. Very friendly guys who appear quite knowledgeable. Although I would love a play by play of daily activities in their office, I realize the useless impracticality of it. Eventually, we'd just get posts from Terrahash regarding the weird weather in the bay recently or perhaps the odd explosive bowel movement.
I want to hear relevant information, and that won't come on a daily basis. Probably more likely a weekly or bi-weekly update.
-JC
On another note, I switched all my ol gpu miners over to litecoin mining while I uh um "wait" for my asic boards.. and am earning more money at a much faster clip now than struggling to hang on to BTC mining anymore,,,so just for those who are still minng gpu in here,,,so far it was a good move for me at this time. and LTC is up somewhat compared to BTC right now.....
and am earning more money at a much faster clip now than struggling to hang on to BTC mining anymore,,,so just for those who are still minng gpu in here,,,so far it was a good move for me at this time. and LTC is up somewhat compared to BTC right now.....Eh I stopped my GPUs mining... weather is starting to heat up here and the 3 6950s were making my place miserable lol
ya i agree, so this spring I transformed my outside PC workshop into a mining shop...lol, I added insulation and cut a hole in the wall and put a window a/c unit in for the peak heat of the day hours, but running that adds up to... I even made an exhaust system pumping the heat coming out of the back of my one rigs with 2x 7950' in it, I could heat my house with the systems in the winter! lol but ya its like 95 out here right now
I had to get them all out of my house. On another note, I switched all my ol gpu miners over to litecoin mining while I uh um "wait" for my asic boards.. and am earning more money at a much faster clip now than struggling to hang on to BTC mining anymore,,,so just for those who are still minng gpu in here,,,so far it was a good move for me at this time. and LTC is up somewhat compared to BTC right now.....
and am earning more money at a much faster clip now than struggling to hang on to BTC mining anymore,,,so just for those who are still minng gpu in here,,,so far it was a good move for me at this time. and LTC is up somewhat compared to BTC right now.....Eh I stopped my GPUs mining... weather is starting to heat up here and the 3 6950s were making my place miserable lol
On another note, I switched all my ol gpu miners over to litecoin mining while I uh um "wait" for my asic boards.. and am earning more money at a much faster clip now than struggling to hang on to BTC mining anymore,,,so just for those who are still mining gpu in here,,,so far it was a good move for me at this time. and LTC is up somewhat compared to BTC right now.....
and am earning more money at a much faster clip now than struggling to hang on to BTC mining anymore,,,so just for those who are still mining gpu in here,,,so far it was a good move for me at this time. and LTC is up somewhat compared to BTC right now..... I'm sitting here enjoying the free show you seem to be putting on whining for updates.
I'm not sure what update you are referring to that they promised on and didn't deliver. So far so good in my book.
If you have additional questions send them an email, if you've already done that then I guess the "show must go on!"
*Popcorn*
You're not sure what update I'm referring to? Here, allow me to enlighten you:
We will be canceling at 6pm today, all wire-transfer orders placed on Tuesday, for which we don't receive a wire by today evening. Only in very rare cases (mostly where the wire is coming from out of the country) we will restore orders if the wire comes in on Monday or Tuesday. All other wires coming next week will be returned. We also won't change shipping address and/or email addresses associated with an account (except for rare cases). We will compile all the order data during the weekend, and on Monday we will send out an email to all the customers letting them know whether their order falls within the first batch of 20,000 chips or the 2nd batch.
Yes, that update did come in; however, it came in well after it was supposed to. That's what I've been referring to.
You'll notice that they specifically committed to sending an email monday letting people know what batch their order falls in. THAT is what I was referring to. They committed, and therefore everyone had a right to expect it, no matter what you think.
You can rip on people, call them needy and essentially imply that they're attention whores all you want; it doesn't make it true when all they asked for was what they were told they would be given.
Yes TH did update us, after the fact, and said that the info on where the orders fell would be delayed. I'm ok with that. They came here and explained what was going on and why the update was being delayed. I just wish they would have done so a little sooner.
I'm sitting here enjoying the free show you seem to be putting on whining for updates.
I'm not sure what update you are referring to that they promised on and didn't deliver. So far so good in my book.
If you have additional questions send them an email, if you've already done that then I guess the "show must go on!"
*Popcorn*
I'm not sure what update you are referring to that they promised on and didn't deliver. So far so good in my book.
If you have additional questions send them an email, if you've already done that then I guess the "show must go on!"
*Popcorn*
They said they were going to inform us on what batch of chips our purchase would be fulfilled by, thus giving us an estimate on how long after the first units ship that we would receive our units. That was supposed to come last Friday, then they changed it to Monday, and here it is almost a week later from the initial date and still no word.
Please quit the pointless arguing and FOR THE LOVE OF JEBUS please stop quoting entire posts in your replies. edit!!
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Because they told us by last Friday they were going to tell us this. and please don't tell me or anyone else in here what we should or shouldn't have bought. Keep you opinions about other members to yourself unless ask, cause everyones got one just like something else they have! Post your opinions about TH only. Do you even have an order or are you just arm chair quarterbacking in here anyways...please refrain from making insignifigant comments. and that "list" is far from accurate.
Thank you
Thank you
The facts are TH announced they'd accept preorders. At the exact moment they said the units would be available for presale - they were. Their sale was so successful that Paypal is wary about handing over the huge stack of funds for fear of chargebacks -- which was communicated -- along with a potential remedy pending the outcome (cc directly) - depending on how / when they get their funds, they'll know who paid and when.
If for some reason they then choose to tell you whether your order will be filled within some specific window of time IMHO is a waste of their time. Why should they? You bought it - you'll be served in order... Were you to learn that you weren't fast enough submitting payment and won't be served until the second or third batch of products, wouldn't they be risking loss of your business as a result of your dissatisfaction with your place in line and then have to waste even more time refunding your order?
I do have an order - placed and paid for within the first 2 minutes.... These guys haven't done anything to lose any credibility in my mind and like many small businesses before them are faced with growing pains imposed by Paypal. I'm a huge fan of the community forums but do you really want them responding dozens of posts here about where do I stand in line? Are you hoping to teach them a lesson in customer service??
Why should they? Because TH SAID THEY WOULD, that's why.
I don't know how much simpler this needs to be made - If you say you're going to do something, then you have obligated yourself to do it and people are entitled to expect you to do it.
If you don't want to do something, don't say you will, and I won't expect you to. Is that so hard to understand?
Don't waste your breath (typing) in response to these TH "brown nosers" It ain't going to get us or them anywhere any sooner, even though they probably think it will...lol,,,, We will get our updates when TH is ready and knows what they are doing next...and to the rest of the gang in here,,,we all are very well aware that paypal threw a snag into things for TH, but they should have anticipated that from the getgo?... we all know how paypal is... right? maybe Im just old fashioned when it comes to doing business,,, enough said on this whole thing. We just wait now.
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Because they told us by last Friday they were going to tell us this. and please don't tell me or anyone else in here what we should or shouldn't have bought. Keep you opinions about other members to yourself unless ask, cause everyones got one just like something else they have! Post your opinions about TH only. Do you even have an order or are you just arm chair quarterbacking in here anyways...please refrain from making insignifigant comments. and that "list" is far from accurate.
Thank you
Thank you
The facts are TH announced they'd accept preorders. At the exact moment they said the units would be available for presale - they were. Their sale was so successful that Paypal is wary about handing over the huge stack of funds for fear of chargebacks -- which was communicated -- along with a potential remedy pending the outcome (cc directly) - depending on how / when they get their funds, they'll know who paid and when.
If for some reason they then choose to tell you whether your order will be filled within some specific window of time IMHO is a waste of their time. Why should they? You bought it - you'll be served in order... Were you to learn that you weren't fast enough submitting payment and won't be served until the second or third batch of products, wouldn't they be risking loss of your business as a result of your dissatisfaction with your place in line and then have to waste even more time refunding your order?
I do have an order - placed and paid for within the first 2 minutes.... These guys haven't done anything to lose any credibility in my mind and like many small businesses before them are faced with growing pains imposed by Paypal. I'm a huge fan of the community forums but do you really want them responding dozens of posts here about where do I stand in line? Are you hoping to teach them a lesson in customer service??
Why should they? Because TH SAID THEY WOULD, that's why.
I don't know how much simpler this needs to be made - If you say you're going to do something, then you have obligated yourself to do it and people are entitled to expect you to do it.
If you don't want to do something, don't say you will, and I won't expect you to. Is that so hard to understand?
I guess everyone is happy to wait on your report and trust you will cover most of our concerns
Seriously?
This IS the Custom Hardware board, right? The only question posted was about paypal?
I'm off to see the wizard(s), and will report back in a couple of hours with answers to my own questions...
This IS the Custom Hardware board, right? The only question posted was about paypal?
I'm off to see the wizard(s), and will report back in a couple of hours with answers to my own questions...
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Because they told us by last Friday they were going to tell us this. and please don't tell me or anyone else in here what we should or shouldn't have bought. Keep you opinions about other members to yourself unless ask, cause everyones got one just like something else they have! Post your opinions about TH only. Do you even have an order or are you just arm chair quarterbacking in here anyways...please refrain from making insignifigant comments. and that "list" is far from accurate.
Thank you
Thank you
The facts are TH announced they'd accept preorders. At the exact moment they said the units would be available for presale - they were. Their sale was so successful that Paypal is wary about handing over the huge stack of funds for fear of chargebacks -- which was communicated -- along with a potential remedy pending the outcome (cc directly) - depending on how / when they get their funds, they'll know who paid and when.
If for some reason they then choose to tell you whether your order will be filled within some specific window of time IMHO is a waste of their time. Why should they? You bought it - you'll be served in order... Were you to learn that you weren't fast enough submitting payment and won't be served until the second or third batch of products, wouldn't they be risking loss of your business as a result of your dissatisfaction with your place in line and then have to waste even more time refunding your order?
I do have an order - placed and paid for within the first 2 minutes.... These guys haven't done anything to lose any credibility in my mind and like many small businesses before them are faced with growing pains imposed by Paypal. I'm a huge fan of the community forums but do you really want them responding dozens of posts here about where do I stand in line? Are you hoping to teach them a lesson in customer service??
Agreed. People complaining here wont make a difference. You can complain 24/7 they cant change what happened with the PayPal thing. It is just a waiting game now. Let them figure things out and stop expecting an answer/update every hour from them. If TH was to answer all your questions and updates he would only be looking at this forum all day and not have time to do anything else.
Give him a break, and give him time.
shimple, you seem pretty cool and realistic, but who's complaining? I haven't complained about a thing....Dont label me? I like everyone else, are just waiting for a time frame. thats all, not to much to ask....if it were the other way around I would expect the same if I was excepting thousands of dollars from folks,,,so... anyways it is what it is, and i will keep waiting lol
the paypal does work?
can anyone post the paypal adress?
can anyone post the paypal adress?
paypal status on held funds
OK, Double Quick Now,
What are your top questions for Terrahash?
Only 1 question per post.
I'll report back later...
What are your top questions for Terrahash?
Only 1 question per post.
I'll report back later...
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Because they told us by last Friday they were going to tell us this. and please don't tell me or anyone else in here what we should or shouldn't have bought. Keep you opinions about other members to yourself unless ask, cause everyones got one just like something else they have! Post your opinions about TH only. Do you even have an order or are you just arm chair quarterbacking in here anyways...please refrain from making insignifigant comments. and that "list" is far from accurate.
Thank you
Thank you
The facts are TH announced they'd accept preorders. At the exact moment they said the units would be available for presale - they were. Their sale was so successful that Paypal is wary about handing over the huge stack of funds for fear of chargebacks -- which was communicated -- along with a potential remedy pending the outcome (cc directly) - depending on how / when they get their funds, they'll know who paid and when.
If for some reason they then choose to tell you whether your order will be filled within some specific window of time IMHO is a waste of their time. Why should they? You bought it - you'll be served in order... Were you to learn that you weren't fast enough submitting payment and won't be served until the second or third batch of products, wouldn't they be risking loss of your business as a result of your dissatisfaction with your place in line and then have to waste even more time refunding your order?
I do have an order - placed and paid for within the first 2 minutes.... These guys haven't done anything to lose any credibility in my mind and like many small businesses before them are faced with growing pains imposed by Paypal. I'm a huge fan of the community forums but do you really want them responding dozens of posts here about where do I stand in line? Are you hoping to teach them a lesson in customer service??
lubah what planet are you living on? lol geez,,,,and Im proud of you for getting your order placed in 2 minutes,,hooray for lubah. For the record im ok with my place in line btw. You obviously are missing the point. oh well....
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Because they told us by last Friday they were going to tell us this. and please don't tell me or anyone else in here what we should or shouldn't have bought. Keep you opinions about other members to yourself unless ask, cause everyones got one just like something else they have! Post your opinions about TH only. Do you even have an order or are you just arm chair quarterbacking in here anyways...please refrain from making insignifigant comments. and that "list" is far from accurate.
Thank you
Thank you
The facts are TH announced they'd accept preorders. At the exact moment they said the units would be available for presale - they were. Their sale was so successful that Paypal is wary about handing over the huge stack of funds for fear of chargebacks -- which was communicated -- along with a potential remedy pending the outcome (cc directly) - depending on how / when they get their funds, they'll know who paid and when.
If for some reason they then choose to tell you whether your order will be filled within some specific window of time IMHO is a waste of their time. Why should they? You bought it - you'll be served in order... Were you to learn that you weren't fast enough submitting payment and won't be served until the second or third batch of products, wouldn't they be risking loss of your business as a result of your dissatisfaction with your place in line and then have to waste even more time refunding your order?
I do have an order - placed and paid for within the first 2 minutes.... These guys haven't done anything to lose any credibility in my mind and like many small businesses before them are faced with growing pains imposed by Paypal. I'm a huge fan of the community forums but do you really want them responding dozens of posts here about where do I stand in line? Are you hoping to teach them a lesson in customer service??
Agreed. People complaining here wont make a difference. You can complain 24/7 they cant change what happened with the PayPal thing. It is just a waiting game now. Let them figure things out and stop expecting an answer/update every hour from them. If TH was to answer all your questions and updates he would only be looking at this forum all day and not have time to do anything else.
Give him a break, and give him time.
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