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♫ A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw ♫
June 18, 2013, 07:06:08 PM
Order #528 -- 2 Klondike 16

Total Orders: 2
Total Klondike 16's: 3
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June 18, 2013, 07:05:06 PM
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I am order 461
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June 18, 2013, 07:03:18 PM
how would I know whether my order will be processed with the Avalon chip batches already purchased by your company?
Any email notification of this info once all the order and payments sorted out?
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June 18, 2013, 06:57:26 PM
3. Confirmation Emails not sent: Some people have not received a confirmation email about their orders. We suggest them to check their spam folder. We are using Amazon's SES service to send all emails, so there should not be any issues with delivery. However, if you log into your account and it says "processing" against your order, that means the payment has been received.

Thanks for clear this up. I checked the spam folder, but no confirm email at all. But its fine, since processing = payment has been received.
Maybe you could rename this state to "processing (payment received.)"
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June 18, 2013, 06:40:04 PM
I also think that orders should be reserved by when you PAY.

I don't quite disagree with you since I did pay instantly, but that could be problematic for anyone paying by wire, no?  It sure would suck to get one of the first orders in and then be pushed back to the second batch just because you had cash in hand and had to wait 3 days for it to get transferred.  

Yeah but you choose to be an idiot and wire transfer.....get a prepaid CC and pay through paypal.

You would only get 45 days Paypal protection. Prepaid cards are debit, not credit, therefore minimal if any protection from an issuing bank...

On paypal is there anyway to extend protection if not recieved in 45 days?  Or is 45 days final cutoff as far as paypal?

Their cut-off liability wise. It's only a digital escrow for their mother company eBay to give piece of mind in receiving eBay listings globally.

The liability held by credit cards is far greater, but some cc companies do not like third party payments like Paypal and Amazon, so you must check with your CCard's issuing bank.

Barclay's for instance wen I rang up about KnC were surprisingly cool...but that's a UK bank, apparently I have 6 years!? That said I've also read that I must initiate complaint prior to 120days after initial promised delivery. I know nothing about this stateside.
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June 18, 2013, 06:30:06 PM
I also think that orders should be reserved by when you PAY.

I don't quite disagree with you since I did pay instantly, but that could be problematic for anyone paying by wire, no?  It sure would suck to get one of the first orders in and then be pushed back to the second batch just because you had cash in hand and had to wait 3 days for it to get transferred. 

Yeah but you choose to be an idiot and wire transfer.....get a prepaid CC and pay through paypal.

You would only get 45 days Paypal protection. Prepaid cards are debit, not credit, therefore minimal if any protection from an issuing bank...

On paypal is there anyway to extend protection if not recieved in 45 days?  Or is 45 days final cutoff as far as paypal?
hero member
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June 18, 2013, 06:25:27 PM
I also think that orders should be reserved by when you PAY.

I don't quite disagree with you since I did pay instantly, but that could be problematic for anyone paying by wire, no?  It sure would suck to get one of the first orders in and then be pushed back to the second batch just because you had cash in hand and had to wait 3 days for it to get transferred. 

Yeah but you choose to be an idiot and wire transfer.....get a prepaid CC and pay through paypal.

You would only get 45 days Paypal protection. Prepaid cards are debit, not credit, therefore minimal if any protection from an issuing bank...
newbie
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June 18, 2013, 06:18:26 PM
#717 Cancelled
#737 TerraHash DX Large × 1 Number of Modules: 10 (180 GHash/sec) (Unpaid)
#791 Cancelled
#822 TerraHash DX Large × 1 Number of Modules: 10 (180 GHash/sec) (Unpaid)
newbie
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June 18, 2013, 06:13:09 PM
order number: 435
DX Large full
10 modules
paid

I would have posted sooner but had to request whitelist.  I've followed bitcointalk for a while but have never posted.
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June 18, 2013, 06:06:32 PM
In all fairness, the lack of protection with an as yet untrusted seller is a bitcoin problem, and that's why many of us chose not to use it and opted for paypal/CC instead.  I had the BTC and could have gotten the discount, but didn't because there wasn't enough trust yet and therefore required the protection.  

So yes, solved one problem, by opening the door to another.  BTC is a great technology, its just not done growing yet.

Escrow is the solution for the problem you describe (if they would have offered it).  But I'll split the difference with you: 

Require a BTC deposit to reserve a position in the queue and deduct it at fair value from the fiat payment.  The deposit could live in escrow if so required.

This approach would have the added benefit of filtering out many fake orders and using BTC transaction speed effectively.

Right now it seems that the written terms changed without notice: the 8 hour window became a 5 day window.  Which changes the risk profile quite a bit.


Agreed, TH could have made this process much more smooth with a (very) small amount of effort.  
sr. member
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♫ A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw ♫
June 18, 2013, 06:05:35 PM
Order #1079 - 1 Klondike 16
newbie
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June 18, 2013, 06:04:52 PM
My order #606 was only for 1 k16 so 16 chips for me since we dont know that much about this seller , i decided to go small and gamble a little bit on it .
sr. member
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June 18, 2013, 06:02:21 PM
In all fairness, the lack of protection with an as yet untrusted seller is a bitcoin problem, and that's why many of us chose not to use it and opted for paypal/CC instead.  I had the BTC and could have gotten the discount, but didn't because there wasn't enough trust yet and therefore required the protection.  

So yes, solved one problem, by opening the door to another.  BTC is a great technology, its just not done growing yet.

Escrow is the solution for the problem you describe (if they would have offered it).  But I'll split the difference with you: 

Require a BTC deposit to reserve a position in the queue and deduct it at fair value from the fiat payment.  The deposit could live in escrow if so required.

This approach would have the added benefit of filtering out many fake orders and using BTC transaction speed effectively.

Right now it seems that the written terms changed without notice: the 8 hour window became a 5 day window.  Which changes the risk profile quite a bit.





sr. member
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June 18, 2013, 06:00:14 PM
Update to list please Cheesy. I hadn't realized some cancellations and some are not paid for.
sr. member
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June 18, 2013, 05:34:49 PM
I think less than <550-650 made the 20,000 cutoff.

Good to know I'm number 1044, but am not interested in tying up my money while waiting for the next batch.

Should we just wait till he says he has more chips order to then order from? Are orders from 550-1000+ just going to sit in a queue and wait?
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June 18, 2013, 05:29:16 PM
I also think that orders should be reserved by when you PAY.

I don't quite disagree with you since I did pay instantly, but that could be problematic for anyone paying by wire, no?  It sure would suck to get one of the first orders in and then be pushed back to the second batch just because you had cash in hand and had to wait 3 days for it to get transferred. 

Say what you will, but paying in BTC would have solved this exact problem. 

BTC orders should get priority in the order they were paid.

I understand why they might not do this, but BTC supporters should not be punished because of fiat problems.


In all fairness, the lack of protection with an as yet untrusted seller is a bitcoin problem, and that's why many of us chose not to use it and opted for paypal/CC instead.  I had the BTC and could have gotten the discount, but didn't because there wasn't enough trust yet and therefore required the protection.  

So yes, solved one problem, by opening the door to another.  BTC is a great technology, its just not done growing yet.
sr. member
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June 18, 2013, 05:26:55 PM
lol i have a few unpaid orders. i would like some away to those that messed up or loss the opportunity. They are all local pickup as I live close enough to them. PM me if you're interested.
sr. member
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June 18, 2013, 05:25:46 PM
I also think that orders should be reserved by when you PAY.

I don't quite disagree with you since I did pay instantly, but that could be problematic for anyone paying by wire, no?  It sure would suck to get one of the first orders in and then be pushed back to the second batch just because you had cash in hand and had to wait 3 days for it to get transferred. 

Say what you will, but paying in BTC would have solved this exact problem. 

BTC orders should get priority in the order they were paid.

I understand why they might not do this, but BTC supporters should not be punished because of fiat problems.
newbie
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June 18, 2013, 05:21:06 PM
I also think that orders should be reserved by when you PAY.

I don't quite disagree with you since I did pay instantly, but that could be problematic for anyone paying by wire, no?  It sure would suck to get one of the first orders in and then be pushed back to the second batch just because you had cash in hand and had to wait 3 days for it to get transferred. 

Yeah but you choose to be an idiot and wire transfer.....get a prepaid CC and pay through paypal.
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June 18, 2013, 05:20:29 PM
I also think that orders should be reserved by when you PAY.

I don't quite disagree with you since I did pay instantly, but that could be problematic for anyone paying by wire, no?  It sure would suck to get one of the first orders in and then be pushed back to the second batch just because you had cash in hand and had to wait 3 days for it to get transferred. 

But I should be rewarded for having my shit ready to go and paying, as opposed to these douches that placed a bunch of big orders right off and not paying for them, and are now just trying to sell them
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