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sr. member
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August 06, 2014, 03:30:17 PM
Wow haploid i think something is wrong with you if you turn it down xD
True, something is wrong with me. So why don't you go ahead and provide the loan if you're so confident? I'm sure you want the interest and free cryptostock shares. You wouldn't want to be a hypocrite would you?

I would provide it if i had the btc, quite ignorant coming from you as previously i did request a loan from you, so its pretty obvious. You're not as smart as you seem then. Roll Eyes

Really no need for insults just because a request was denied.
legendary
Activity: 812
Merit: 1002
August 06, 2014, 03:02:30 PM
3rd loan with moni3z, but via PM this time. Copying PM here to reference.


Looking for a 0.45 loan repayment of 0.50 if possible. If not I can break it up into separate loans. Payment to the usual address I use, if acceptable I'll make a thread. Repayment next week, Friday 15Aug

Sure, approved for full amount. Post your address, or let me know if you want me to send to previous address you used.

Awesome, I use the same address everytime 18gEM6Mjk9QmXs6GyvSFbNmfncPJr2Zq69
Acts as sort of a 2-factor ID so nobody can phish this account and get loans in my name.

Good to know about the same address. 0.45 just sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/8e717c0f202c5ebcdf03eb9149a535d7c5f5ef5488b888fc06d51c6449a59113

Send the 0.5btc back to same repayment address as the previous two loans:

18ResrpQjWz5rJr8mPH3NKLgrgLQzNHxym
legendary
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August 06, 2014, 02:43:01 PM
I'm sure you can figure out what a worthy collateral is. Any further negotiating or proof needs to be done in PM, and I'll post the final terms public. Also, please edit out your previous post, you don't need to quote the whole thing when it was right above.
full member
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August 06, 2014, 02:32:43 PM
I'm looking for 5-10BTC loan for in real life selling/trading (more profitable) and as a little social experiment on the BTC community and it also helps spread the word on BTC.

You say no collateral but regardless I'll give you shares on cryptostocks to the same value of the loan you give me to keep for good meaning even when I pay back you can keep them. I'll also pay back whatever % interest rate you want on the loan for 30 days. I can take more than 10BTC if you want, up to yourself.

Like I said I'm writing a report on BTC, the community and doing a little social experiment that I'll publish at the end of the 30 days.

I can loan to you up to 10btc, provided that you have the proper collateral. Cryptostocks shares are NOT a good collateral at this time, and you know that. Otherwise you wouldn't allow me to keep them at the end.

Looking at the recent events on cryptostocks, it looks like these are nearly worthless now. Take a look HERE for problems, and HERE to see how people already got screwed. I'm sure you're already aware, that's why you offered them.

Since you seemingly have a real name as a forum account, I'm sure you have no problem verifying that you're indeed Ryan Milligan. If you can provide this verification, and also proof that you're working on your article and details on your social experiment, then I'll approve a 0.1btc loan. If you can provide PROPER collateral, then I can loan any amount. Otherwise, your request is denied altogether. You PM me if you'd like to proceed, otherwise just ignore my conditions.



Like I said I'm writing a report on BTC, the community and doing a little social experiment that I'll publish at the end of the 30 days.
And what if no article gets published, and shares becomes worthless (like it nearly is now)? I'm not waiting 30 days only to realize that there's no article, and you've already ran with the large amount of btc.



And why don't you just sell those shares if you are going to let the lender keep them anyways?

IPO flag is active just now + the whole point of me even asking for a loan is for the whole report/experiment thing I'm doing. I have 20BTC worth of shares and was lucky enough to get into BTC while it had just gone double figures.

The loan is part of the report on bitcoin, the community, wide spreading knowledge as well as a few things you'll see if you read it when I publish it.

Sorry this is just giberish. You haven't directly answered why can't just sell the shares to bring back 20btc rather than asking for a loan of 10btc. They're throwaway shares and the end anyways, and I don't value you them as collateral, so no reason for you not to sell them.

I'm denying the loan, so I guess your experiment is a failure. Be sure to include this in your upcoming report  Wink. However, if you want a real loan, the conditions are already stated in the first reply.




Wow haploid i think something is wrong with you if you turn it down xD
True, something is wrong with me. So why don't you go ahead and provide the loan if you're so confident? I'm sure you want the interest and free cryptostock shares. You wouldn't want to be a hypocrite would you?

The report is not a failure. It can't fail, it can't win. It's simply an experiment to see what happens.

What do you deem proper collateral?
legendary
Activity: 812
Merit: 1002
August 06, 2014, 02:06:44 PM
I'm looking for 5-10BTC loan for in real life selling/trading (more profitable) and as a little social experiment on the BTC community and it also helps spread the word on BTC.

You say no collateral but regardless I'll give you shares on cryptostocks to the same value of the loan you give me to keep for good meaning even when I pay back you can keep them. I'll also pay back whatever % interest rate you want on the loan for 30 days. I can take more than 10BTC if you want, up to yourself.

Like I said I'm writing a report on BTC, the community and doing a little social experiment that I'll publish at the end of the 30 days.

I can loan to you up to 10btc, provided that you have the proper collateral. Cryptostocks shares are NOT a good collateral at this time, and you know that. Otherwise you wouldn't allow me to keep them at the end.

Looking at the recent events on cryptostocks, it looks like these are nearly worthless now. Take a look HERE for problems, and HERE to see how people already got screwed. I'm sure you're already aware, that's why you offered them.

Since you seemingly have a real name as a forum account, I'm sure you have no problem verifying that you're indeed Ryan Milligan. If you can provide this verification, and also proof that you're working on your article and details on your social experiment, then I'll approve a 0.1btc loan. If you can provide PROPER collateral, then I can loan any amount. Otherwise, your request is denied altogether. You PM me if you'd like to proceed, otherwise just ignore my conditions.



Like I said I'm writing a report on BTC, the community and doing a little social experiment that I'll publish at the end of the 30 days.
And what if no article gets published, and shares becomes worthless (like it nearly is now)? I'm not waiting 30 days only to realize that there's no article, and you've already ran with the large amount of btc.



And why don't you just sell those shares if you are going to let the lender keep them anyways?

IPO flag is active just now + the whole point of me even asking for a loan is for the whole report/experiment thing I'm doing. I have 20BTC worth of shares and was lucky enough to get into BTC while it had just gone double figures.

The loan is part of the report on bitcoin, the community, wide spreading knowledge as well as a few things you'll see if you read it when I publish it.

Sorry this is just giberish. You haven't directly answered why can't just sell the shares to bring back 20btc rather than asking for a loan of 10btc. They're throwaway shares and the end anyways, and I don't value you them as collateral, so no reason for you not to sell them.

I'm denying the loan, so I guess your experiment is a failure. Be sure to include this in your upcoming report  Wink. However, if you want a real loan, the conditions are already stated in the first reply.




Wow haploid i think something is wrong with you if you turn it down xD
True, something is wrong with me. So why don't you go ahead and provide the loan if you're so confident? I'm sure you want the interest and free cryptostock shares. You wouldn't want to be a hypocrite would you?
legendary
Activity: 812
Merit: 1002
August 06, 2014, 01:50:12 PM
I can't give any collateral and interest... I want BTC for buying hashes. I will give 10% of my mining. I need 0% interest loan of ~$30.

No collateral, no interest, and I get 10% of mining proceeds. Why don't I buy my own mining contract, and get 100% of the proceeds, with zero chance of getting scammed? Go beg somewhere else. Some of these requests just blows my mind.



I can't give any collateral and interest... I want BTC for buying hashes. I will give 10% of my mining. I need 0% interest loan of ~$30.

No collateral, no interest, and I get 10% of mining proceeds. Why don't I buy my own mining contract, and get 100% of the proceeds, with zero chance of getting scammed? Go beg somewhere else. Some of these requests just blows my mind.

I can offer you upto 30% of my mining. If you want more, name it, I will try my best to give you. I will give the BTC you give regardless of the mining reward. Smiley

I want 100% of the mining, but most of all, I want you to use a bit of common sense, then just go away  Cheesy
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August 06, 2014, 01:38:59 PM
I like to to get some BTC from you. But I can't give any collateral and interest. I will sell collaterals to get more BTC. I want BTC for buying hashes. I will give 10% of my mining. I need 0% interest loan of ~$30. I will pay you as soon as I reach ~$30(amount you give). Can you give me? My BTC address : 1MzakiRDem5MCocbcP7DgfcVGZNZe2KqaC
Kindly,
     MZ

Is the non-willingness to pay interest a result of religious restriction?

Yes, my friend! I know someone would find it. Anyway I don't like disclosing most of the things before someone else find it. Smiley
Kindly,
      MZ
sr. member
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August 06, 2014, 01:33:17 PM
I like to to get some BTC from you. But I can't give any collateral and interest. I will sell collaterals to get more BTC. I want BTC for buying hashes. I will give 10% of my mining. I need 0% interest loan of ~$30. I will pay you as soon as I reach ~$30(amount you give). Can you give me? My BTC address : 1MzakiRDem5MCocbcP7DgfcVGZNZe2KqaC
Kindly,
     MZ

Is the non-willingness to pay interest a result of religious restriction?
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 509
I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!
August 06, 2014, 01:31:45 PM
I like to to get some BTC from you. But I can't give any collateral and interest. I will sell collaterals to get more BTC. I want BTC for buying hashes. I will give 10% of my mining. I need 0% interest loan of ~$30. I will pay you as soon as I reach ~$30(amount you give). Can you give me? My BTC address : 1MzakiRDem5MCocbcP7DgfcVGZNZe2KqaC
Kindly,
     MZ
sr. member
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August 06, 2014, 12:52:46 PM
I'm looking for 5-10BTC loan for in real life selling/trading (more profitable) and as a little social experiment on the BTC community and it also helps spread the word on BTC.

You say no collateral but regardless I'll give you shares on cryptostocks to the same value of the loan you give me to keep for good meaning even when I pay back you can keep them. I'll also pay back whatever % interest rate you want on the loan for 30 days. I can take more than 10BTC if you want, up to yourself.

Like I said I'm writing a report on BTC, the community and doing a little social experiment that I'll publish at the end of the 30 days.

Wow haploid i think something is wrong with you if you turn it down xD
member
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August 06, 2014, 12:51:19 PM
Looking for a loan again, same request as before:
0.15 @ 15% until the 19th August?

Approved, but only for 0.05 btc, same as before. Assuming you get paid bi weekly, you should have no problem with repaying 0.0575btc on Friday August 15. Post your address if you agree to the terms.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8053546


Ya but my paydays just got shuffled up so I don't get paid again until Tuesday the 19th. If your ok with that my address is

1KonyQHZejMXvNsNg2uPUQhBE1ud4ZykHB.

Thanks
full member
Activity: 210
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August 06, 2014, 12:40:23 PM
I'm looking for 5-10BTC loan for in real life selling/trading (more profitable) and as a little social experiment on the BTC community and it also helps spread the word on BTC.

You say no collateral but regardless I'll give you shares on cryptostocks to the same value of the loan you give me to keep for good meaning even when I pay back you can keep them. I'll also pay back whatever % interest rate you want on the loan for 30 days. I can take more than 10BTC if you want, up to yourself.

Like I said I'm writing a report on BTC, the community and doing a little social experiment that I'll publish at the end of the 30 days.

And why don't you just sell those shares if you are going to let the lender keep them anyways?

IPO flag is active just now + the whole point of me even asking for a loan is for the whole report/experiment thing I'm doing. I have 20BTC worth of shares and was lucky enough to get into BTC while it had just gone double figures.

The loan is part of the report on bitcoin, the community, wide spreading knowledge as well as a few things you'll see if you read it when I publish it.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
August 06, 2014, 12:37:15 PM
I'm looking for 5-10BTC loan for in real life selling/trading (more profitable) and as a little social experiment on the BTC community and it also helps spread the word on BTC.

You say no collateral but regardless I'll give you shares on cryptostocks to the same value of the loan you give me to keep for good meaning even when I pay back you can keep them. I'll also pay back whatever % interest rate you want on the loan for 30 days. I can take more than 10BTC if you want, up to yourself.

Like I said I'm writing a report on BTC, the community and doing a little social experiment that I'll publish at the end of the 30 days.

And why don't you just sell those shares if you are going to let the lender keep them anyways?
legendary
Activity: 812
Merit: 1002
August 06, 2014, 12:34:20 PM
Looking for a loan again, same request as before:
0.15 @ 15% until the 19th August?

Approved, but only for 0.05 btc, same as before. Assuming you get paid bi weekly, you should have no problem with repaying 0.0575btc on Friday August 15. Post your address if you agree to the terms.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8053546



legendary
Activity: 1064
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August 06, 2014, 12:33:50 PM
Now that the loans been repaid in full. I'd like to revisit this by asking to please "re-borrow" the 0.3 @ 5% but use the 31st as a safety net even though it will more than likely be repaid days / weeks in advance like the 1st loan.

Confirmed last repayment, your loan has been fully repaid. Thanks for being 5 days early, and I've left you positive feedback in your profile.

However, this new request is denied. BUT, you can request again on August 11, which is the original date that your loan was due. I feel that you're trying to "game" the terms by quickly repaying and asking for the same amount back, but with a later repayment date (and lower interest rate). This effectively extends the original loan duration. I also assume that you're trying to gain more trust than what you would have gotten by showing good faith of early repayment.

So for these two reasons, there will be a "cool down" period before I'm willing to give you another loan.

Now I could totally be wrong on these assumptions, but I see no other reason why you would quickly repay, then immediately ask for another loan. Ask again on the August 11.
1) The lower interest was requested bec had the extension been approved the added additional interest would have been 5 percent more but I can pay the 10% again if you'd like me to.

2) The loan was quickly repaid bec I make on avg 0.08 a day with my current 3.2Th, more when two of the four S3's arrive tomorrow at my collo guys place assuming UPS tracking is accurate. Plus I don't often spend my inputs, nor would I when a loan is o be repaid.

3) The reason I requested same amount is in the quote, because I'd like to get the coinbase money back in the bank. Which only adds a few days of mining time instead of 12+ had I not re-requested the loan.

4) If I was tryin to game anything id have requested a new higher amount loan or something.

My motives are simple and seen in the quote which is simply wanting to put the money back in the bank that I spent on the 0.7 to buy the S3 units to which your previous loan helped with.

Edit: I also don't care about nor need additional trust.
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August 06, 2014, 12:32:04 PM
I'm looking for 5-10BTC loan for in real life selling/trading (more profitable) and as a little social experiment on the BTC community and it also helps spread the word on BTC.

You say no collateral but regardless I'll give you shares on cryptostocks to the same value of the loan you give me to keep for good meaning even when I pay back you can keep them. I'll also pay back whatever % interest rate you want on the loan for 30 days. I can take more than 10BTC if you want, up to yourself.

Like I said I'm writing a report on BTC, the community and doing a little social experiment that I'll publish at the end of the 30 days.
full member
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August 06, 2014, 11:52:02 AM
shkiser - 0.2 btc - 0.24 due July 27
bl4kjaguar - 4.0 btc - 4.2 due July 31

How have these loans been doing? Just curious to know as the amounts are quite high.
legendary
Activity: 812
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August 06, 2014, 11:50:13 AM
Now that the loans been repaid in full. I'd like to revisit this by asking to please "re-borrow" the 0.3 @ 5% but use the 31st as a safety net even though it will more than likely be repaid days / weeks in advance like the 1st loan.

Confirmed last repayment, your loan has been fully repaid. Thanks for being 5 days early, and I've left you positive feedback in your profile.

However, this new request is denied. BUT, you can request again on August 11, which is the original date that your loan was due. I feel that you're trying to "game" the terms by quickly repaying and asking for the same amount back, but with a later repayment date (and lower interest rate). This effectively extends the original loan duration. I also assume that you're trying to gain more trust than what you would have gotten by showing good faith of early repayment.

So for these two reasons, there will be a "cool down" period before I'm willing to give you another loan. Now I could totally be wrong on these assumptions, but I see no other reason why you would quickly repay, then immediately ask for another loan. Ask again on the August 11.
legendary
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brb keeping up with the Kardashians
August 06, 2014, 11:01:33 AM
Glad to see a lender who knows what he's doing. This is now one of my favorite threads Smiley
member
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August 06, 2014, 10:33:51 AM
Looking for a loan again, same request as before:
0.15 @ 15% until the 19th August?
Will post address i ou approve the loan  Smiley
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