Official Avalon mining rig clones thread from bitmine.ch (NOW SHIPPING) - page 20.

gotah

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Quote from: Kj1 on May 30, 2013, 08:55:49 AM

reading up on avalon threads, what specific warranty do you guys offer? And how?

Eg this appears not to be uncommon:
http://www.mysenselesslife.com/avalon/DSCN5212.JPG

Hi, this is a damage on the control unit board.
regarding the warranty, as Swiss Code Of Obligations say, we are obliged to give 1 year of warranty on products we sell.

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Quote from: one4many on May 28, 2013, 04:19:09 PM

Quote from: KS on May 28, 2013, 04:10:07 PM

Seriously...
I mean no disrespect but you just showed up and now you'll be vouching for *potential* scammers. Do you see a problem here?

Seriously!
And who are you to judge?
Come and meet me on Friday, show some commitment, like I do.
Have you even ordered one unit? Probably not ... Tongue

If you do not understand why the forum shows some concern that a 33 post member just entering the thread claims not only to already have ordered a Miner but also is one of the ones that happen to be showing up in their office I just don't know what to say.

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Quote from: Gordon Bleu on May 25, 2013, 04:55:06 AM

sorry to be an ass, but one Order you can cancel,
we have now a Difficulty increase of +1 per Day,
Today we are at 11 Mill,
Tomorow will be 12,
this add's up to at least 71 Million on August 1, at 91 there is no more Profit and no more ROI in Avalon
end of August we are at 121 Million, and that's just my naiv Calculation even when all Gpu Fpga's would leave the Network
we are already awating the next gen Miners, so maybe a Diff over 200 Mill is possible this would screw most uf us badly.

but i would maybe pay up to 1800 USD for a 22Gh/s Device in August if you could sell it for 1600 USD it would be a Bonus.

You do (I hope) realize that diff is not a linear increase and even though the 'Asic rollout' surely is going to ramp up diff, this will likely partially be offset by thousands and thousands of GPU miners folding up their operations or moving to scrypt mining in the next few months.

I am pretty convinced that well built ASIC will have profitability far into the fall and winter, at least for those paying 'non outrageous' kw/h prices.

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how many units available in the second batch? When the second batch will be start ship out?

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reading up on avalon threads, what specific warranty do you guys offer? And how?

Eg this appears not to be uncommon:
http://www.mysenselesslife.com/avalon/DSCN5212.JPG

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Quote from: Inglewood on May 24, 2013, 05:53:19 PM

Funny how the 2 members involved and the one who's willing to go visit their factory and vouch for them are all registered between 7-9 May and have post counts between 11-13 Cheesy

Its a concern indeed.

Quote from: Gordon Bleu on May 24, 2013, 06:15:39 PM

i really don't want to tarnish some Reputation because of my Postcount,
i'm not affiliated with them,
usually i visit BFL or Imageboards
i signed up here for a x6500 Offer

But i'm sure there will be someone with more Credibility who will also investigate,

So Please, not everyone with low Post Count is a Scammer or a Troll

Of course not, but without a real world ID for the operators or the visitors and no prior history in the forums you have no credibility until a product is shown.

Im watching myself with cautious interest, I do have some euro contacts through friends and may be able to organize a visit via proxy.
The proxy visitor would be recording some video of:
* the intial meeting
* whatever areas of the factory you permit
* (this is a must) a working unit on a test bench for my proxy to point at a mining pool that is provided at the time of testing. Ideally the proxy visitor would also be able to *fiddle* with said demo hardware then pay for the unit for me and collect (he would organize post directly to myself).

So there it is, let me know what you think while I see if a friend has anyone in / near switzerland right now.

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And what are the payment methods?

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very interesting, when do you plan to order next batch of chip?

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Quote from: giorgiomassa on May 29, 2013, 03:17:24 PM

Quote from: Amph on May 29, 2013, 02:10:51 PM

is there a possibility to add cheaper models, in the future, maybe?

Due to big request we are going to give the possibility during the next batch pre-orders to buy units with 2,3 or 4 modules, along with the possibility to separately order the modules when you need them. This will also be a great opportunity for avalon batch #1 buyers that have just 3 modules and want to upgrade to 4.

More on this will be published in the next days

good news, i'll keep watching

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Quote from: giorgiomassa on May 29, 2013, 03:17:24 PM

Due to big request we are going to give the possibility during the next batch pre-orders to buy units with 2,3 or 4 modules, along with the possibility to separately order the modules when you need them. This will also be a great opportunity for avalon batch #1 buyers that have just 3 modules and want to upgrade to 4.

More on this will be published in the next days

Thanks for the info, I praise this initiative. We stay tuned!

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Great! I will buy one 4 mod unit when available again... It´s funny if I´ll get "Avalon" from you before my Avalon Batch#3 order

And great if you take wire transfers! ...waiting for!

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Quote from: Amph on May 29, 2013, 02:10:51 PM

is there a possibility to add cheaper models, in the future, maybe?

Due to big request we are going to give the possibility during the next batch pre-orders to buy units with 2,3 or 4 modules, along with the possibility to separately order the modules when you need them. This will also be a great opportunity for avalon batch #1 buyers that have just 3 modules and want to upgrade to 4.

More on this will be published in the next days

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is there a possibility to add cheaper models, in the future, maybe?

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This:

Quote from: giorgiomassa on May 25, 2013, 07:41:33 AM

[...]
The exact address can't be told because we have a non disclosure agreement with them.
[...]
We can't invite everybody because it's a high security location that produces military parts and visits are really restricted and require prior authorisations.

and this:

Quote from: giorgiomassa on May 29, 2013, 05:21:24 AM

our case was already designed with a better airflow as we are using a thermal simulation CAD program to predict the heat transfer.

really made my day. Ridiculous bullshit. Become serious and post real evidence.

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Quote from: Kj1 on May 29, 2013, 05:06:57 AM

Hey, reading up on the avalon user experiences thread, there seems to be some problems:

- the PSU unit is not powerful enough. In your clone for 4 units, a 750W psu is awfully tight & produces a lot of heat when pushed to 100%. For cooling and stability purposes, it might be better to consider a stronger PSU. see the avalon tread for info.

regarding the problem that seems be the power of the PSU is not enough, yes we already know this possibility, in case 750W is not enough we will make an upgrade to 1000W (free of charge for our customers)

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Quote from: Kj1 on May 29, 2013, 05:06:57 AM

Hey, reading up on the avalon user experiences thread, there seems to be some problems:

- the PSU unit is not powerful enough. In your clone for 4 units, a 750W psu is awfully tight & produces a lot of heat when pushed to 100%. For cooling and stability purposes, it might be better to consider a stronger PSU. see the avalon tread for info.

- it sounds like a goddam jet engine. Moving the psu outside (less cable clutter) makes the temp drop considerably (thus also the noise). This indicates that a bigger casing might just be a good idea.

Thanks for the update!

Just another quick question, did avolon actually already send out asic chips to people/group buys who ordered more then two months ago? Is the two month delivery time from ordering accurate?

Yep, we are aware of the issues, unfortunately 320 chips draw a LOT of power, our case was already designed with a better airflow as we are using a thermal simulation CAD program to predict the heat transfer. Live tests will be accomplished once Avalon ships the first sample batch of ICs to their customer and that should happen pretty soon.

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Hey, reading up on the avalon user experiences thread, there seems to be some problems:

- the PSU unit is not powerful enough. In your clone for 4 units, a 750W psu is awfully tight & produces a lot of heat when pushed to 100%. For cooling and stability purposes, it might be better to consider a stronger PSU. see the avalon tread for info.

- it sounds like a goddam jet engine. Moving the psu outside (less cable clutter) makes the temp drop considerably (thus also the noise). This indicates that a bigger casing might just be a good idea.

Thanks for the update!

Just another quick question, did avolon actually already send out asic chips to people/group buys who ordered more then two months ago? Is the two month delivery time from ordering accurate?

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Quote from: giorgiomassa on May 29, 2013, 04:53:49 AM

Some more updates about current progresses:

- Friday morning the first PCBs will leave the factory, I will go to pick them up so that we and our visitor can upload some pictures in the afternoon.

- Monday all the components for the sample batch will come in, I will then bring these along with the PCBs the same day to the factory so that they can set-up all the stencils, pick and place programs, etc. In that moment I will also take a picture of myself in the factory, since somebody here stated that I've taken the pictures from the Internet LOL Grin

- One single prototype will be hand assembled here in our labs, two will be machine assembled at the factory. Obviously, you'll see first the hand assembled one, btu the factory told me they can give me the machine assembled ones within friday 7th June.

- Case's CAD design is finished and later I'll upload pictures of the final assembly, tomorrow they'll be sent to the factory for first sample batch production, they should land in during next week too.

- Considering that at the end of next week we'll have a lot more to show to visitors, we'll try to make the first visit appointments starting from Monday the 10th of June.

Sounds good,
Do you have any idea when you continue taking pre-orders? I am interested in this project.

EDIT: Read your blog post. I am subscribed to your newsletter now.

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Some more updates about current progresses:

- Friday morning the first PCBs will leave the factory, I will go to pick them up so that we and our visitor can upload some pictures in the afternoon.

- Monday all the components for the sample batch will come in, I will then bring these along with the PCBs the same day to the factory so that they can set-up all the stencils, pick and place programs, etc. In that moment I will also take a picture of myself in the factory, since somebody here stated that I've taken the pictures from the Internet LOL Grin

- One single prototype will be hand assembled here in our labs, two will be machine assembled at the factory. Obviously, you'll see first the hand assembled one, but the factory told me they can give me the machine assembled ones within friday 7th June.

- Case's CAD design is finished and later I'll upload pictures of the final assembly, tomorrow they'll be sent to the factory for first sample batch production, they should land in during next week too.

- Considering that at the end of next week we'll have a lot more to show to visitors, we'll try to make the first visit appointments starting from Monday the 10th of June.

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Quote from: peterepeat on May 28, 2013, 09:09:47 PM

Quote from: gotah on May 24, 2013, 05:39:05 PM

Quote from: peterepeat on May 24, 2013, 05:31:18 PM

Hi,
Thanks for starting this.
If I have a 3 module Avalon will you be able to supply an additional module to take it from 63 to 85 GH? How much will it cost?
Cheers

this is something interesting we are already considering, I'm unable to tell you how much will it cost right now.
at the moment our priority is be ready with all the hardware for the incoming Avalon Chips, so we don't have so much time for elaborate this new product, but I'm quite sure we will give this possibility too

Hi,
has there been any progress with this option?
Thanks

Yes, still working on that, we'll finish to calculate the exact of this option price once we finish the first prototypes (see below).

Quote from: costapete on May 28, 2013, 04:13:40 PM

any members that have forum history able to go so there is more than one guest?

Yep we are dealing with a couple of potential hero members that will come in next week to see the first prototypes, I will keep you updated.

Quote from: slightboyme on May 29, 2013, 01:26:22 AM

Ok, I may have missed this but what is the difference between this and the Avalon chip group buy + open source board? Is this gonna ship earlier?

Thanks

There's a huge difference here: this is a complete assembled system that has been manufactured with multimillion $ equipments (see the pics of the fab), tested and covered by warranty. DYI is nice for a very small nice of people that actually have SMD soldering skills but even there the reliability levels wouldn't be the same as a machine-made product. We expect to see (sadly!) lots of people burning or in some other ways damaging the ASICs they've group-bought, that's also the reason why very soon we will put an option to buy our clone at a discounted price if you send in your ASICs.

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