Official BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread - page 127.

mare

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Thanks for the refund Giorgio!

atta2k15

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Quote from: Min€r on March 12, 2014, 03:05:36 PM

Giorgio you scammer & noob - look: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5662415

Are you a totally fraud from the scratch? ...it was so clear that the knowledge of you is compareable to BFL - now we have it official!

based on what? Huh

fuck off

Min€r

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Giorgio you scammer & noob - look: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5662415

Are you a totally fraud from the scratch? ...it was so clear that the knowledge of you is compareable to BFL - now we have it official!

rmb2u

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Quote from: giorgiotheclown on March 12, 2014, 03:01:03 PM

Quote from: wttbs on March 12, 2014, 02:57:29 PM

I give it a rest while waiting for my order #2xxx and put my energy in positive things in life. Yeah, I lost money big time, feel scammed, neglected, ignored, not taken seriously as a customer but... I learned my (expensive) lesson: never ever preorder again. never trust a company who offers preorders or if you do preorder be aware of the risks involved including losing all your money (and maybe even more).

I take a cold beer now and I wonder how the people of bitmine.ch will live on the rest of their lives knowing they scammed, frustrated, misleaded and "stole" money/profit of thousands of people. You know what? I even feel a little bit sorry for them....

shit you are some kind of jesus!

very relaxed person, i wish i could be so relaxed...

hmm buy some beer is a good idea. ab zur tanke Cheesy

A sixpack will help me relaxing.... ;-)

atta2k15

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they will deliver in time (<65days), I have faith Cool

giorgiotheclown

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Quote from: wttbs on March 12, 2014, 02:57:29 PM

I give it a rest while waiting for my order #2xxx and put my energy in positive things in life. Yeah, I lost money big time, feel scammed, neglected, ignored, not taken seriously as a customer but... I learned my (expensive) lesson: never ever preorder again. never trust a company who offers preorders or if you do preorder be aware of the risks involved including losing all your money (and maybe even more).

I take a cold beer now and I wonder how the people of bitmine.ch will live on the rest of their lives knowing they scammed, frustrated, misleaded and "stole" money/profit of thousands of people. You know what? I even feel a little bit sorry for them....

shit you are some kind of jesus!

very relaxed person, i wish i could be so relaxed...

hmm buy some beer is a good idea. ab zur tanke Cheesy

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Quote from: jegersmart on March 12, 2014, 02:37:55 PM

Quote from: SolarSilver on March 12, 2014, 01:37:13 PM

Quote from: giorgiomassa on March 12, 2014, 10:24:24 AM

So the answer is no, after the 61st day we are not giving more than 50% of compensation because that would result in a plain loss for us, you can either wait for the 50% compensated order to be shipped or cancel the order as per above.

Well you have deceived a lot of us, this is clearly not how we read it.

When is my order shipping? I paid the 12th of December, it's converted now to Desks and I'm going to have to wait until
difficulty doubles again to get it?

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I'm not aware of any other Bitcoin mining equipment manufacturer in the world that offers such a good customer protection. Our primary goal is customer's satisfaction and we are working hard to achieve this.

Avalon refunded their Batch #3 units and chip sales after screwing up. And they did it for the full BTC paid. You should know as you were one of the customers

Just claim the refund and stop posting here pls?

Thanks

J

How about you don´t interrupt a discussion, stop posting and get out?

Thanks

T

wttbs

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I give it a rest while waiting for my order #2xxx and put my energy in positive things in life. Yeah, I lost money big time, feel scammed, neglected, ignored, not taken seriously as a customer but... I learned my (expensive) lesson: never ever preorder again. never trust a company who offers preorders or if you do preorder be aware of the risks involved including losing all your money (and maybe even more).

I take a cold beer now and I wonder how the people of bitmine.ch will live on the rest of their lives knowing they scammed, frustrated, misleaded and "stole" money/profit of thousands of people. You know what? I even feel a little bit sorry for them....

tranquille

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Quote from: giorgiomassa on March 12, 2014, 01:34:45 PM

Quote from: Wolke on March 12, 2014, 01:09:31 PM

if they produce more than 50 units a day -> why i have to wait to the end of march begin of april ?
my que is under 400... Angry

The current estimations given by our support team are set by purpose on an extremely conservative way, most probably you will get it earlier.

Please stop lying once and for all!
You really just said, that your customers will likely receive it EARLIER!?!?
How stupid do you think we are?

This is not funny anymore for long. You planned from the beginning to manufacture 25 devices per day?
It hurts to listen to this level of incompetence and arrogance. You are the worst example of a CEO/project leader I have EVER witnessed. I don´t care if you are profitable or not by staying true to the CPP. Your fault - you messed up.

This is not kindergarten where you can tell us afterwards "how the contract was actually meant to be".

There is no way out of a lawsuit now - I would have given you one last chance to clear up things today when you re-opened the thread and wanted to send out the newsletter. But it´s hopeless - once a liar - always a liar.

Of course you did not send out the newsletter that you promised; also you are not addressing the complaints.

I am already in the process of preparing everything to file a lawsuit. Everyone interested can look up the unofficial thread in an effort to join.

tranquille

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Quote from: Syke on March 12, 2014, 12:10:02 PM

Quote from: giorgiomassa on March 12, 2014, 10:24:24 AM

I'm not aware of any other Bitcoin mining equipment manufacturer in the world that offers such a good customer protection. Our primary goal is customer's satisfaction and we are working hard to achieve this.

Bitmain. They actually deliver when they say they will. That's way better than shipping late with a minor speed increase since difficulty goes up way more than 10% every 10 days.

Syke - bitmine ships with massive delay and ~30% reduced hashing power.

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Quote from: comp006 on March 12, 2014, 02:16:15 PM

Suing them now is not the most intelligent action. It would be simply revenge. You would not get your device nor your money faster. I am not a lawyer, but I think you can sue them later with the same chances of winning.
Why I'm writing this? Yea, I don't want money back, I want to get my miner and I think that suing them will slow this whole thing down or they may go bankrupt.
For your information, I'm waiting for my february week 1 miner and they said me that it will be shipped in mid of April. I'm not happy with the situation too, but please don't make it worse.

really? i think there will be some police investigation about the whole BITMINE scam. and we all know, how giorgio runs his business... not very well, and not very legal.

you cant do such things, close your company and mean this have no consequences

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Quote from: SolarSilver on March 12, 2014, 01:37:13 PM

Quote from: giorgiomassa on March 12, 2014, 10:24:24 AM

So the answer is no, after the 61st day we are not giving more than 50% of compensation because that would result in a plain loss for us, you can either wait for the 50% compensated order to be shipped or cancel the order as per above.

Well you have deceived a lot of us, this is clearly not how we read it.

When is my order shipping? I paid the 12th of December, it's converted now to Desks and I'm going to have to wait until
difficulty doubles again to get it?

Quote

I'm not aware of any other Bitcoin mining equipment manufacturer in the world that offers such a good customer protection. Our primary goal is customer's satisfaction and we are working hard to achieve this.

Avalon refunded their Batch #3 units and chip sales after screwing up. And they did it for the full BTC paid. You should know as you were one of the customers

Just claim the refund and stop posting here pls?

Thanks

J

Daveb0

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Quote from: giorgiomassa on March 12, 2014, 06:28:40 AM

Turbo mode issue has been explained in great details in several posts so I won't enter once again into a discussion on this, if you really care to know the truth please go back and read them.

Hi giorgiomassa

Back there it was always about the turbo mode regarding the CC Desk systems.

Can you officially confirm, that on the date of shippement, a fully packed CC Rig System (=> 2THs nominal speed) cannot be operated continuosly at 2.8THs with a power consumption of max 3kW in a common professional housing environment with about 22°C ambient temperarture?

And actually I also wonder about the power save mode: can the Rig be operated on the date of shippment at 1.6THs with a maximum power consumption of 1.2kW?
In contrast to the turbo mode this one has not been stated explicitly but I just extrapolated the advertised power consumption of a rig at 400GHs.

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Quote from: comp006 on March 12, 2014, 02:16:15 PM

Suing them now is not the most intelligent action. It would be simply revenge. You would not get your device nor your money faster. I am not a lawyer, but I think you can sue them later with the same chances of winning.
Why I'm writing this? Yea, I don't want money back, I want to get my miner and I think that suing them will slow this whole thing down or they may go bankrupt.
For your information, I'm waiting for my february week 1 miner and they said me that it will be shipped in mid of April. I'm not happy with the situation too, but please don't make it worse.

Then mine wont come until may o later Sad

I have feb last week.

I would rather have my miner and not in may but soon!! But I will start investigating in how to get my money back if something doesn´t change. I want to se people before me receiving their miners

comp006

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Suing them now is not the most intelligent action. It would be simply revenge. You would not get your device nor your money faster. I am not a lawyer, but I think you can sue them later with the same chances of winning.
Why I'm writing this? Yea, I don't want money back, I want to get my miner and I think that suing them will slow this whole thing down or they may go bankrupt.
For your information, I'm waiting for my february week 1 miner and they said me that it will be shipped in mid of April. I'm not happy with the situation too, but please don't make it worse.

giorgiotheclown

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Quote from: THC888 on March 12, 2014, 02:00:04 PM

- I sent the collection of a claim (betreibung) @ bitmine
- bitmine rejected this (rechtsvorschlag)

@giorgiomasse: see you @ court

@forum: I will inform about the results from the court. I am sure that I receive damages.

great thanks

THC888

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- I sent the collection of a claim (betreibung) @ bitmine
- bitmine rejected this (rechtsvorschlag)

@giorgiomasse: see you @ court

@forum: I will inform about the results from the court. I am sure that I receive damages.

BuTaJIu4eK

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Quote from: psy112 on March 12, 2014, 01:06:47 PM

Hi,
I´m new too this forum, but I ordered a coinrig 1.5Th Februari batch. Started to wonder whats going on and started searching. Is it really a scam? Thought i googled enough before I made my order with bitmine, but now I start thinking that it was a baaaaaad move Sad

Quote from: giorgiotheclown on March 12, 2014, 11:33:06 AM

guys our cash is gone, if you wanne justice for free, then read the links below.

http://www.seco.admin.ch/themen/00645/00653/04883/index.html?lang=de
http://www.seco.admin.ch/themen/00645/00653/05288/index.html?lang=de

there is a french and a italian version to.

i will write some propere text in german with the failures and the scammy parts and share with you. after this its on you to put your name in, and send the form.

you will get revenge for free!
and after this the insolvenzverwalter will look that we get our cash back...

Please do! I want my money back if this really is a scam ;(

YES!!! Bitmine AG - scammers. Angry And only promises but NO ASIC miner! Angry NO my money! Cry

psy112

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Quote from: giorgiomassa on March 12, 2014, 01:34:45 PM

Quote from: Wolke on March 12, 2014, 01:09:31 PM

if they produce more than 50 units a day -> why i have to wait to the end of march begin of april ?
my que is under 400... Angry

The current estimations given by our support team are set by purpose on an extremely conservative way, most probably you will get it earlier.

Have you sent any miners at all? Have it been lies the whole time?

SolarSilver

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Quote from: giorgiomassa on March 12, 2014, 10:24:24 AM

So the answer is no, after the 61st day we are not giving more than 50% of compensation because that would result in a plain loss for us, you can either wait for the 50% compensated order to be shipped or cancel the order as per above.

Well you have deceived a lot of us, this is clearly not how we read it.

When is my order shipping? I paid the 12th of December, it's converted now to Desks and I'm going to have to wait until
difficulty doubles again to get it?

Quote

I'm not aware of any other Bitcoin mining equipment manufacturer in the world that offers such a good customer protection. Our primary goal is customer's satisfaction and we are working hard to achieve this.

Avalon refunded their Batch #3 units and chip sales after screwing up. And they did it for the full BTC paid. You should know as you were one of the customers

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