OFFICIAL CGMINER mining software thread for linux/win/osx/mips/arm/r-pi 4.11.0 - page 653.

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Quote from: minero1 on February 15, 2012, 10:33:54 AM

Hi CK, have you found the problem causing the high % of rejected shares? i set it to -I 9 and still having way to many rejects, it starts very ugly but with time appears to get better, my current run shows (A:35107 R:2059), less than with dynamic set but still.
I'm running 2.2.4 i didn't notice that in 2.0.8

This is the first time you've reported it?

Suggestions:
Perhaps your pool is actually asking you to submit the old shares even if they're stale. Newer cgminer supports the "submitold" feature now.

I get .3-.4% rejects with static intensities so I can't reproduce your problem here.

p2pool also has a significantly higher reject rate if that's what you're on/have moved to.

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Hi CK, have you found the problem causing the high % of rejected shares? i set it to -I 9 and still having way to many rejects, it starts very ugly but with time appears to get better, my current run shows (A:35107 R:2059), less than with dynamic set but still.
I'm running 2.2.4 i didn't notice that in 2.0.8

-ck

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Quote from: Proofer on February 15, 2012, 10:15:45 AM

Quote from: -ck on February 15, 2012, 01:48:24 AM

Hmm if I didn't know any better, it looks like the auto-fan is not being enabled on the other devices.
Can you click on GPU setting, Change setting and select each device in order and see if they report:

Code:

Fan autotune is enabled (0-85)

Thanks

"Fan autotune is enabled (0-85)" is reported for each of the 6 cores.

Thanks. In the meantime, I've audited the code and can't find where this might happen, so a fix for this is not coming in the next version I'm afraid. I'll keep looking.

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Quote from: -ck on February 15, 2012, 01:48:24 AM

Hmm if I didn't know any better, it looks like the auto-fan is not being enabled on the other devices.
Can you click on GPU setting, Change setting and select each device in order and see if they report:

Code:

Fan autotune is enabled (0-85)

Thanks

"Fan autotune is enabled (0-85)" is reported for each of the 6 cores.

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Quote from: A1BITCOINPOOL on February 14, 2012, 04:43:01 PM

I am using cgminer 2.1.2(I use 2.1.2 because any other version I use gives me lower speeds)

I am using too 2.1.2 as faster

it is good working config for me

Code:

{
"pools" : [
	{
...main pool...
	}
	{
...backup pool....
	}
],

"intensity" : "9,9,9,9",
"gpu-engine" : "996,1050,880,860",
"gpu-fan" : "50-100,50-100,50-100,50-100",
"gpu-memclock" : "200,200,200,200",
"gpu-vddc" : "1.210,1.120,1.135,1.135",
"temp-cutoff" : "90,90,90,90",
"temp-overheat" : "80,80,80,80",
"temp-target" : "64,53,61,61",

"algo" : "c",
"auto-fan" : true,
"expiry" : "120",
"failover-only" : true,
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"log" : "5",
"queue" : "3",
"retry-pause" : "5",
"scan-time" : "60",
"temp-hysteresis" : "1",
"worksize" : "0",

"donation" : "0.00",
"shares" : "0",
"submit-stale" : true,
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin"
}

can you tell your AMD drivers / AMD OCL SDK versions combination?

I am using:
atiumdag 8.920.0.0 (Catalyst 11.12) / Win7 64
with
OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP-SDK-v2.5 (684.213)

p/s/
anyone try to change kernels? and "-v" "-w" options?

-ck

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Quote from: Proofer on February 15, 2012, 01:20:37 AM

Quote from: -ck on February 14, 2012, 04:21:48 PM

Quote from: Proofer on February 14, 2012, 01:03:01 PM

3x5970 -- why is my GPU 4/5 fan speed so high?

This is after an hour or so of 2.2.5, but the fan speeds were the same after 70 hours of 2.2.4.

While it's running, can you go into settings and enable debug mode and see what it's saying about temperatures and fan speeds? It will spew all sorts of info so you'll have to watch for a while to find it.

Sequences like this were output at 3 or 6 second intervals, so there were dozens during the sample period. 100% of them had fanspeed changes for GPU 2, with temperatures rising or falling and setting its speed to 68 or 67. No other GPU was mentioned in a "fanspeed" message.

2.2.5+ (commit 158c09107cb9ec1657c42213e3d7e5c972ff0aae; Tue Feb 14 13:33:17 2012 UTC)

Hmm if I didn't know any better, it looks like the auto-fan is not being enabled on the other devices.
Can you click on GPU setting, Change setting and select each device in order and see if they report:

Code:

Fan autotune is enabled (0-85)

Thanks

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Quote from: -ck on February 14, 2012, 04:21:48 PM

Quote from: Proofer on February 14, 2012, 01:03:01 PM

3x5970 -- why is my GPU 4/5 fan speed so high?

This is after an hour or so of 2.2.5, but the fan speeds were the same after 70 hours of 2.2.4.

While it's running, can you go into settings and enable debug mode and see what it's saying about temperatures and fan speeds? It will spew all sorts of info so you'll have to watch for a while to find it.

From running in debug mode for 2.5 minutes, here are the first three sequences in which the string "fanspeed" occurred:

Code:

[2012-02-14 16:46:10] GPU4  63.0C 4499RPM | (5s):362.2 (avg):363.3 Mh/s | A:489 R:12 HW:0 U:1.79/m I: 9
[2012-02-14 16:46:10] 69.0 C  F: 85%(4615RPM)  E: 810MHz  M: 200Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 98%  P: 0%
[2012-02-14 16:46:10] 72.5 C  F: 85%(4615RPM)  E: 810MHz  M: 200Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 99%  P: 0%
[2012-02-14 16:46:10] Temperature rising while in target range, increasing fanspeed
[2012-02-14 16:46:10] Setting GPU 2 fan percentage to 68
[2012-02-14 16:46:10] 68.0 C  F: 67%(3987RPM)  E: 810MHz  M: 200Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 99%  P: 0%
[2012-02-14 16:46:10] 63.5 C  F: 67%(3983RPM)  E: 810MHz  M: 200Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 99%  P: 0%
[2012-02-14 16:46:10] 63.0 C  F: 85%(4504RPM)  E: 810MHz  M: 200Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 99%  P: 0%
[2012-02-14 16:46:10] 66.0 C  F: 85%(4504RPM)  E: 810MHz  M: 200Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 99%  P: 0%

[2012-02-14 16:46:13] 69.0 C  F: 85%(4609RPM)  E: 810MHz  M: 200Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 98%  P: 0%
[2012-02-14 16:46:13] 72.5 C  F: 85%(4609RPM)  E: 810MHz  M: 200Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 99%  P: 0%
[2012-02-14 16:46:13] Temperature dropping while in target range, decreasing fanspeed
[2012-02-14 16:46:13] Setting GPU 2 fan percentage to 67
[2012-02-14 16:46:13] 68.0 C  F: 68%(4020RPM)  E: 810MHz  M: 200Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 99%  P: 0%
[2012-02-14 16:46:13] 63.5 C  F: 68%(4024RPM)  E: 810MHz  M: 200Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 99%  P: 0%
[2012-02-14 16:46:13] 63.0 C  F: 85%(4509RPM)  E: 810MHz  M: 200Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 99%  P: 0%
[2012-02-14 16:46:13] 66.5 C  F: 85%(4504RPM)  E: 810MHz  M: 200Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 99%  P: 0%

[2012-02-14 16:46:16] GPU3  63.0C 3983RPM | (5s):362.4 (avg):363.5 Mh/s | A:507 R:10 HW:0 U:1.85/m I: 9
[2012-02-14 16:46:16] 69.0 C  F: 85%(4620RPM)  E: 810MHz  M: 200Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 99%  P: 0%
[2012-02-14 16:46:16] 72.5 C  F: 85%(4626RPM)  E: 810MHz  M: 200Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 99%  P: 0%
[2012-02-14 16:46:16] Temperature rising while in target range, increasing fanspeed
[2012-02-14 16:46:16] Setting GPU 2 fan percentage to 68
[2012-02-14 16:46:16] 68.0 C  F: 67%(3983RPM)  E: 810MHz  M: 200Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 99%  P: 0%
[2012-02-14 16:46:16] 63.0 C  F: 67%(3987RPM)  E: 810MHz  M: 200Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 99%  P: 0%
[2012-02-14 16:46:16] 63.0 C  F: 85%(4493RPM)  E: 810MHz  M: 200Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 99%  P: 0%
[2012-02-14 16:46:16] 66.0 C  F: 85%(4499RPM)  E: 810MHz  M: 200Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 99%  P: 0%

Sequences like this were output at 3 or 6 second intervals, so there were dozens during the sample period. 100% of them had fanspeed changes for GPU 2, with temperatures rising or falling and setting its speed to 68 or 67. No other GPU was mentioned in a "fanspeed" message.

Here is cgminer -n while cgminer was running:

Code:

[2012-02-14 18:15:21] CL Platform 0 vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
[2012-02-14 18:15:21] CL Platform 0 name: AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing
[2012-02-14 18:15:21] CL Platform 0 version: OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP-SDK-v2.4 (595.10)
[2012-02-14 18:15:21] Platform 0 devices: 6
[2012-02-14 18:15:21] GPU 0 ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series hardware monitoring enabled
[2012-02-14 18:15:21] GPU 1 ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series hardware monitoring enabled
[2012-02-14 18:15:21] Failed to ADL_Overdrive5_FanSpeedInfo_Get
[2012-02-14 18:15:21] GPU 2 ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series hardware monitoring enabled
[2012-02-14 18:15:21] GPU 3 ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series hardware monitoring enabled
[2012-02-14 18:15:21] Failed to ADL_Overdrive5_FanSpeedInfo_Get
[2012-02-14 18:15:21] GPU 4 ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series hardware monitoring enabled
[2012-02-14 18:15:21] GPU 5 ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series hardware monitoring enabled
[2012-02-14 18:15:21] Failed to ADL_Overdrive5_FanSpeedInfo_Get
[2012-02-14 18:15:21] Dual GPUs detected: 1 and 0
[2012-02-14 18:15:21] Dual GPUs detected: 3 and 2
[2012-02-14 18:15:21] Dual GPUs detected: 5 and 4
[2012-02-14 18:15:21] 6 GPU devices max detected

2.2.5+ (commit 158c09107cb9ec1657c42213e3d7e5c972ff0aae; Tue Feb 14 13:33:17 2012 UTC)

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Quote from: A1BITCOINPOOL on February 14, 2012, 04:43:01 PM

I am using cgminer 2.1.2(I use 2.1.2 because any other version I use gives me lower speeds) and I save my config file before I exit, but it won't load my pools on restart.

Sigh ... coz you are using 2.1.2 ... and new is slower coz you upgraded your SDK
I (and others) have posted about that a few times in the last few pages ... ... ... ...

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I am using cgminer 2.1.2(I use 2.1.2 because any other version I use gives me lower speeds) and I save my config file before I exit, but it won't load my pools on restart.

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Quote from: Proofer on February 14, 2012, 01:03:01 PM

3x5970 -- why is my GPU 4/5 fan speed so high?

This is after an hour or so of 2.2.5, but the fan speeds were the same after 70 hours of 2.2.4.

While it's running, can you go into settings and enable debug mode and see what it's saying about temperatures and fan speeds? It will spew all sorts of info so you'll have to watch for a while to find it.

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3x5970 -- why is my GPU 4/5 fan speed so high?

Long version:

Code:

GPU 0: 362.8 / 363.4 Mh/s | A:110  R:5  HW:0  U:2.04/m  I:9
66.5 C  F: 85% (4582 RPM)  E: 810 MHz  M: 200 Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 99% P: 0%
Last initialised: [2012-02-14 07:57:44]
Intensity: 9
Thread 0: 362.1 Mh/s Enabled ALIVE

GPU 1: 363.1 / 363.5 Mh/s | A:118  R:1  HW:0  U:2.19/m  I:9
70.0 C  F: 85% (4582 RPM)  E: 810 MHz  M: 200 Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 99% P: 0%
Last initialised: [2012-02-14 07:57:45]
Intensity: 9
Thread 1: 362.8 Mh/s Enabled ALIVE

GPU 2: 362.9 / 363.7 Mh/s | A:107  R:3  HW:0  U:1.99/m  I:9
68.0 C  F: 59% (3674 RPM)  E: 810 MHz  M: 200 Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 99% P: 0%
Last initialised: [2012-02-14 07:57:46]
Intensity: 9
Thread 2: 362.3 Mh/s Enabled ALIVE

GPU 3: 363.0 / 363.5 Mh/s | A:101  R:4  HW:0  U:1.88/m  I:9
63.5 C  F: 59% (3678 RPM)  E: 810 MHz  M: 200 Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 99% P: 0%
Last initialised: [2012-02-14 07:57:46]
Intensity: 9
Thread 3: 362.3 Mh/s Enabled ALIVE

GPU 4: 363.0 / 363.5 Mh/s | A:104  R:4  HW:0  U:1.93/m  I:9
60.0 C  F: 85% (4483 RPM)  E: 810 MHz  M: 200 Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 99% P: 0%
Last initialised: [2012-02-14 07:57:47]
Intensity: 9
Thread 4: 362.3 Mh/s Enabled ALIVE

GPU 5: 363.1 / 363.6 Mh/s | A:101  R:5  HW:0  U:1.88/m  I:9
64.0 C  F: 85% (4488 RPM)  E: 810 MHz  M: 200 Mhz  V: 1.050V  A: 99% P: 0%
Last initialised: [2012-02-14 07:57:47]
Intensity: 9
Thread 5: 362.5 Mh/s Enabled ALIVE

Brief version:

Code:

 cgminer version 2.2.5 - Started: [2012-02-14 07:57:44]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 (5s):2178.0 (avg):2178.7 Mh/s | Q:2409  A:691  R:22  HW:0  E:29%  U:11.82/m
 TQ: 6  ST: 7  SS: 13  DW: 487  NB: 5  LW: 3055  GF: 0  RF: 0
 Connected to http://127.0.0.1:9332 with LP as user Proofer
 Block: 000007a595070ee8a15647e9d1d101cb...  Started: [08:51:35]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [P]ool management [G]PU management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 GPU 0:  67.5C 4599RPM | 363.6/363.4Mh/s | A:116 R:5 HW:0 U: 1.98/m I: 9
 GPU 1:  70.5C 4599RPM | 364.2/363.6Mh/s | A:123 R:1 HW:0 U: 2.10/m I: 9
 GPU 2:  69.5C 3706RPM | 364.2/363.7Mh/s | A:116 R:3 HW:0 U: 1.98/m I: 9
 GPU 3:  64.5C 3709RPM | 364.1/363.6Mh/s | A:111 R:4 HW:0 U: 1.90/m I: 9
 GPU 4:  61.0C 4483RPM | 364.0/363.5Mh/s | A:116 R:4 HW:0 U: 1.98/m I: 9
 GPU 5:  64.5C 4483RPM | 364.1/363.1Mh/s | A:109 R:5 HW:0 U: 1.86/m I: 9
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Relevant portion of .config:

Code:

"intensity" : "9",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"gpu-engine" : "810-810",
"gpu-memclock" : "200",
"temp-cutoff" : "80",
"temp-overheat" : "77",
"temp-target" : "70",
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"auto-fan" : true,
"auto-gpu" : true,

This is after an hour or so of 2.2.5, but the fan speeds were the same after 70 hours of 2.2.4.

Edit:
I added:
"gpu-fan" : "0-85"
but it made no difference. However, I watched the startup values carefully. All three units started with fan speeds in the mid 4-thousands. GPUs 2/3 fan speed steadily decreased but the other two units (0/1 and 4/5) remained close to where they started. I posed my question (above) with respect to 4/5 because GPU 1 temperature is near/at the target and I thought that might be what is keeping its fan speed up, but the same can't be said of 4/5.

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Quote from: DeathAndTaxes on February 14, 2012, 09:26:20 AM

Well the good news is that on static 2.2.5 has significantly lower rejects than any prior version I have used.

5128 shares accepted.
7 shares rejected.
0 SS (stale shares discarded locally)

I second that, less 1-1.5% rejects here also. Grin

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Quote from: jake262144 on February 14, 2012, 09:10:25 AM

Quote from: bulanula on February 14, 2012, 08:11:01 AM

So always use intensity 9 to avoid this bug then ?

Thanks !

Not quite. Always use a STATIC intensity, no matter whether it's set to 6, 8, or 14 as long as you don't use d.

DAT is using intensity 9 because he has some powerful cards. Remember that intensity is a fine-tuning parameter and higher does not necessarily mean better.
Cards pulling 230MHash/s are generally better suited with intensity 8.

Yeah I am using 5870s only. I think they work best with 9 rather than 8 but I have not tested that yet.

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Quote from: -ck on February 14, 2012, 02:01:14 AM

Quote from: leveer on February 14, 2012, 01:37:06 AM

Quote from: -ck on February 14, 2012, 12:17:11 AM

Hmm well dynamic could be the culprit then indeed. And that won't really have anything to do with the 2nd thread being disabled, but perhaps because the worksize is constantly changing, it might not be offsetting the right amount and repeating work. That will need fixing...

I was noticing higher rejects with 2.2.x also, and upon searching, found this same problem with dynamic intensity. Switched to a static intensity, and the problem went away.

I recommend everyone stop using dynamic till it's fixed then.

Well the good news is that on static 2.2.5 has significantly lower rejects than any prior version I have used.

5128 shares accepted.
7 shares rejected.
0 SS (stale shares discarded locally)

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Quote from: bulanula on February 14, 2012, 08:11:01 AM

So always use intensity 9 to avoid this bug then ?

Thanks !

Not quite. Always use a STATIC intensity, no matter whether it's set to 6, 8, or 14 as long as you don't use d.

DAT is using intensity 9 because he has some powerful cards. Remember that intensity is a fine-tuning parameter and higher does not necessarily mean better.
Cards pulling 230MHash/s are generally better suited with intensity 8.

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So always use intensity 9 to avoid this bug then ?

Thanks !

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Now you mention it, I'm having the same issue with dynamic. I just wasn't sure what was causing it

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Quote from: leveer on February 14, 2012, 01:37:06 AM

Quote from: -ck on February 14, 2012, 12:17:11 AM

Hmm well dynamic could be the culprit then indeed. And that won't really have anything to do with the 2nd thread being disabled, but perhaps because the worksize is constantly changing, it might not be offsetting the right amount and repeating work. That will need fixing...

I was noticing higher rejects with 2.2.x also, and upon searching, found this same problem with dynamic intensity. Switched to a static intensity, and the problem went away.

I recommend everyone stop using dynamic till it's fixed then.

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Quote from: -ck on February 14, 2012, 12:17:11 AM

Hmm well dynamic could be the culprit then indeed. And that won't really have anything to do with the 2nd thread being disabled, but perhaps because the worksize is constantly changing, it might not be offsetting the right amount and repeating work. That will need fixing...

I was noticing higher rejects with 2.2.x also, and upon searching, found this same problem with dynamic intensity. Switched to a static intensity, and the problem went away.

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Quote from: -ck on February 14, 2012, 12:17:11 AM

Hmm well dynamic could be the culprit then indeed. And that won't really have anything to do with the 2nd thread being disabled, but perhaps because the worksize is constantly changing, it might not be offsetting the right amount and repeating work. That will need fixing...

Yeah I am going to get some sleep but it is pushing 180 shares now and 0 rejects (on static intensity 9 for both GPUs).

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