OFFICIAL CGMINER mining software thread for linux/win/osx/mips/arm/r-pi 4.11.0 - page 653.

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Quote from: os2sam on February 13, 2012, 04:50:02 PM

Always look in the mining software threads top post for the download links and latest version information.
Sam

Yeah, I did. There appears to be an error on the project page.
It shows info for version 0.25, but when you download and run it, it's actually 0.27.

Thanks to everyone for the tips and help.
I'm up and running on P2Pool with Ufaminer right now.
I'm hashing faster than ever (~150Mh/s) and no stales so far.

I'll be back to cgminer as soon as I get my grubby mitts on a decent AMD card.
-Elmojo

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Quote from: Elmojo on February 13, 2012, 04:39:20 PM

Quote from: os2sam on February 13, 2012, 04:34:43 PM

Quote from: Elmojo on February 13, 2012, 04:15:55 PM

Quote from: os2sam on February 13, 2012, 04:11:57 PM

It seems to me that if I were going to mine with an NVida card with the CUDA stuff already installed I would use a mining program that was built for that purpose, until I got a my AMD GPU that is.
Sam

I agree completely, is there one?
I have guiminer, but can't find a way to get it working with P2Pool, and I think that's the right pool for the future of BTC.
If you know of a more appropriate CUDA miner, I'd love to hear about it!

Ufasoft Miner 0.27 - Windows/Linux, x86/x64, SSE2/OpenCL/CUDA, Open Source.

Your making me look like I'm plugging someone else miner on the CGMiner list. I'm really not trying to do that!!!! I'm just trying to get you mining. I don't know if it will work for you but it's worth a shot.

Sam

I read through the the Ufssoft thread, but there doesn't seem to be any lilnks to the 0.27 version for windows, only 0.25.
I'll give it a shot.
Don't feel like you're directing me away from cgminer. I'll be back on it as soon as I get my AMD card! Wink

I tried the CUDA SDK files, they made to difference. cgminer still crashes the GPU driver upon launch.

Always look in the mining software threads top post for the download links and latest version information.
Sam

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Quote from: os2sam on February 13, 2012, 04:34:43 PM

Quote from: Elmojo on February 13, 2012, 04:15:55 PM

Quote from: os2sam on February 13, 2012, 04:11:57 PM

It seems to me that if I were going to mine with an NVida card with the CUDA stuff already installed I would use a mining program that was built for that purpose, until I got a my AMD GPU that is.
Sam

I agree completely, is there one?
I have guiminer, but can't find a way to get it working with P2Pool, and I think that's the right pool for the future of BTC.
If you know of a more appropriate CUDA miner, I'd love to hear about it!

Ufasoft Miner 0.27 - Windows/Linux, x86/x64, SSE2/OpenCL/CUDA, Open Source.

Your making me look like I'm plugging someone else miner on the CGMiner list. I'm really not trying to do that!!!! I'm just trying to get you mining. I don't know if it will work for you but it's worth a shot.

Sam

I read through the the Ufssoft thread, but there doesn't seem to be any lilnks to the 0.27 version for windows, only 0.25.
I'll give it a shot.
Don't feel like you're directing me away from cgminer. I'll be back on it as soon as I get my AMD card! Wink

I tried the CUDA SDK files, they made to difference. cgminer still crashes the GPU driver upon launch.

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Quote from: Elmojo on February 13, 2012, 04:15:55 PM

Quote from: os2sam on February 13, 2012, 04:11:57 PM

It seems to me that if I were going to mine with an NVida card with the CUDA stuff already installed I would use a mining program that was built for that purpose, until I got a my AMD GPU that is.
Sam

I agree completely, is there one?
I have guiminer, but can't find a way to get it working with P2Pool, and I think that's the right pool for the future of BTC.
If you know of a more appropriate CUDA miner, I'd love to hear about it!

Ufasoft Miner 0.27 - Windows/Linux, x86/x64, SSE2/OpenCL/CUDA, Open Source.

Your making me look like I'm plugging someone else miner on the CGMiner list. I'm really not trying to do that!!!! I'm just trying to get you mining. I don't know if it will work for you but it's worth a shot.

Sam

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Quote from: os2sam on February 13, 2012, 04:11:57 PM

It seems to me that if I were going to mine with an NVida card with the CUDA stuff already installed I would use a mining program that was built for that purpose, until I got a my AMD GPU that is.
Sam

I agree completely, is there one?
I have guiminer, but can't find a way to get it working with P2Pool, and I think that's the right pool for the future of BTC.
If you know of a more appropriate CUDA miner, I'd love to hear about it!

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Quote from: Elmojo on February 13, 2012, 03:36:54 PM

Quote from: kano on February 13, 2012, 03:32:38 PM

Quote from: Elmojo on February 13, 2012, 09:29:14 AM

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I see a bunch of stuff about SDKs flaoting around. Do I need to do anything with that or does that only apply to Linux/AMD/whatever?

That applies to mining ...

Again, I have no idea about nVidia and CUDA but I even typed your google search for you and found this page:
http://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads

No idea if you need something else to mine, but no doubt the fact that your NON-ATI miner doesn't work at all probably means you are missing something to make it work ... and at a wild guess it may be that? (I don't know)

Thanks for doing that search for me, I don't think I'd have ever thought to search for that particular string.
I'd downloading the GPU compuing SDK and the CUDA toolkit. They're massive downloads, about a gig between the 2.
It seems odd to me that we'd need development tools to run miners, but I guess I'll add that to the list of things I don't understand about mining! lol

It seems to me that if I were going to mine with an NVida card with the CUDA stuff already installed I would use a mining program that was built for that purpose, until I got a my AMD GPU that is.
Sam

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Quote from: kano on February 13, 2012, 03:32:38 PM

Quote from: Elmojo on February 13, 2012, 09:29:14 AM

...
I see a bunch of stuff about SDKs flaoting around. Do I need to do anything with that or does that only apply to Linux/AMD/whatever?

That applies to mining ...

Again, I have no idea about nVidia and CUDA but I even typed your google search for you and found this page:
http://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads

No idea if you need something else to mine, but no doubt the fact that your NON-ATI miner doesn't work at all probably means you are missing something to make it work ... and at a wild guess it may be that? (I don't know)

Thanks for doing that search for me, I don't think I'd have ever thought to search for that particular string.
I'd downloading the GPU compuing SDK and the CUDA toolkit. They're massive downloads, about a gig between the 2.
It seems odd to me that we'd need development tools to run miners, but I guess I'll add that to the list of things I don't understand about mining! lol

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Quote from: Elmojo on February 13, 2012, 09:29:14 AM

...
I see a bunch of stuff about SDKs flaoting around. Do I need to do anything with that or does that only apply to Linux/AMD/whatever?

That applies to mining ...

Again, I have no idea about nVidia and CUDA but I even typed your google search for you and found this page:
http://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads

No idea if you need something else to mine, but no doubt the fact that your NON-ATI miner doesn't work at all probably means you are missing something to make it work ... and at a wild guess it may be that? (I don't know)

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Quote from: zefir on February 13, 2012, 02:30:51 PM

Hi Con,

in be8ad579 you fixed some missing includes in the modularized logging module. Was this required for Windows or OS/X builds?

I'm asking because I always perform full builds of all potential configuration combinations on my Linux system before I commit and never saw a problem with that missing include. Do you have some automated build scripts to check commits for regressions and QA? I'd like to ensure that my future modifications do not break anything before I issue a pull request.

Thanks,
Zefir

Windows. Manual build just before release usually Undecided

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Hi Con,

in be8ad579 you fixed some missing includes in the modularized logging module. Was this required for Windows or OS/X builds?

I'm asking because I always perform full builds of all potential configuration combinations on my Linux system before I commit and never saw a problem with that missing include. Do you have some automated build scripts to check commits for regressions and QA? I'd like to ensure that my future modifications do not break anything before I issue a pull request.

Thanks,
Zefir

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Quote from: Elmojo on February 13, 2012, 09:48:01 AM

Quote from: os2sam on February 13, 2012, 09:44:19 AM

Quote from: Elmojo on February 13, 2012, 09:29:14 AM

I see a bunch of stuff about SDKs flaoting around. Do I need to do anything with that or does that only apply to Linux/AMD/whatever?

I like using the AMD Catalyst 11.6 which includes the OpenCL SDK 2.4. That seems to work pretty good for me. But if you get one of the newer GPU's you may need to get a newer Catalyst version. Post that question again when you get said GPU and someone will, I'm sure, have a more informed suggestion for you.

In the meantime, while I'm still on the GTX480, do I need to be concerned with anything SDK-related?

I don't know anything about Nvidia GPU or Cuda, so I couldn't say.
Sam

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Quote from: os2sam on February 13, 2012, 09:44:19 AM

Quote from: Elmojo on February 13, 2012, 09:29:14 AM

I see a bunch of stuff about SDKs flaoting around. Do I need to do anything with that or does that only apply to Linux/AMD/whatever?

I like using the AMD Catalyst 11.6 which includes the OpenCL SDK 2.4. That seems to work pretty good for me. But if you get one of the newer GPU's you may need to get a newer Catalyst version. Post that question again when you get said GPU and someone will, I'm sure, have a more informed suggestion for you.

In the meantime, while I'm still on the GTX480, do I need to be concerned with anything SDK-related?

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I have never upgraded SDK, always used original 2.4 from LinuxCoin final, but still have problem with every newly compiled cgminer (those compiled one month ago still works fine)

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Quote from: Elmojo on February 13, 2012, 09:29:14 AM

@Sam: I'm not interested in trying another miner, since I plan to get a good AMD card, and have heard great things about cgminer.
I'll try the new drivers and report back.

That was probably going to be one of the next "suggestions" someone was going to make. When you get the AMD GPU CGMiner is definitely what you will want to use.

Quote from: Elmojo on February 13, 2012, 09:29:14 AM

I see a bunch of stuff about SDKs flaoting around. Do I need to do anything with that or does that only apply to Linux/AMD/whatever?

I like using the AMD Catalyst 11.6 which includes the OpenCL SDK 2.4. That seems to work pretty good for me. But if you get one of the newer GPU's you may need to get a newer Catalyst version. Post that question again when you get said GPU and someone will, I'm sure, have a more informed suggestion for you.

Good Luck,
Sam

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Quote from: os2sam on February 12, 2012, 11:42:25 PM

Quote from: kano on February 12, 2012, 11:29:57 PM

Quote from: Elmojo on February 12, 2012, 11:11:11 PM

Quote from: ancow on February 12, 2012, 11:03:39 PM

@Elmojo: you forgot to add at least some of the following arguments, otherwise the header wouldn't show:
-D -T --verbose

Here's a sample of what it should look like:

Yeah, I put in all the args.
It looked just like your example, until it crashed the GPU driver, then it went crazy.
By the time I could get control back, that's the part I could copy/paste.

No, because when you use -T you will not get that output you pasted ...

However, the problem is CUDA related (from the -n output)
nVidia mining, not ATI mining - in case anyone didn't notice

I did, that's why I suggested the ufasoft miner.

Not having ADL support and not needing failover, since he's mining to localhost, there is not much need to use CGMiner, regardless of where the problem lies.
Sam

Hi guys, thanks for staying on this for me.

@Kano:I promise I DID use the -D and -T args. I can make a video if that will help.
I'm updating my GPU drivers to the latest Beta right now, so see if that has any effect.

@Sam: I'm not interested in trying another miner, since I plan to get a good AMD card, and have heard great things about cgminer.
I'll try the new drivers and report back.

I see a bunch of stuff about SDKs flaoting around. Do I need to do anything with that or does that only apply to Linux/AMD/whatever?

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Quote from: -ck on February 13, 2012, 09:02:11 AM

Containing "metadata like SDK" is just as useful as asking for the output of -n which tells you the same thing. It won't stop people from asking and it won't make them read the readme which has lots about hashrate dropping... but then it's TOO WELL DOCUMENTED now since there's so much in the readme... Short of a loud message repeatedly saying "you are running sdk 2.6 SDK which sucks dicks" I don't think anyone is gonna get the message =(

"Short of a loud message repeatedly saying "you are running sdk 2.6 SDK which sucks dicks"

Could implement that as a popup.

Seriously I understand your frustration was just trying to think of ways to make it more "idiot" proof.

Reminds me of this quote (which I am sure you have heard):

Quote

Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning.

- Rich Cook

Still the point I was (possibly badly) trying to make is -n & -d -t simply shows the system as configured however w/ cached bin files it doesn't necessarily reflect the "execution plan" (to borrow some SQL Server terminology).

-ck

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Quote from: Global BTC on February 13, 2012, 09:04:57 AM

Quote from: DeathAndTaxes on February 13, 2012, 08:50:43 AM

Likely has nothing to do w/ cgminer and everything to do w/ updated drivers / SDK.

I think your assumption is correct, I recall upgrading drivers/SDK/something about a month ago.
So what you are saying is I should downgrade the drivers / SDK and upgrade CGminer?

ckolivas: You could try including "you are running sdk 2.6 SDK which sucks dicks" as a flashing warning in the actual program :-)

How often should this flashing warning be said? Roll Eyes

If for whatever reason you need to run sdk2.6, it sucks lesser dicks on cgminer 2.2.5.

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Quote from: DeathAndTaxes on February 13, 2012, 08:50:43 AM

Likely has nothing to do w/ cgminer and everything to do w/ updated drivers / SDK.

I think your assumption is correct, I recall upgrading drivers/SDK/something about a month ago.
So what you are saying is I should downgrade the drivers / SDK and upgrade CGminer?

ckolivas: You could try including "you are running sdk 2.6 SDK which sucks dicks" as a flashing warning in the actual program :-)

-ck

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Quote from: Global BTC on February 13, 2012, 08:41:54 AM

I tried upgrading from 2.0.8 to 2.2.5 but my 5s average dropped from 715 Mh/s to 600 Mh/s.

Dual 5850, one at 850, the other at 900 Mhz, memory at 300 Mhz on both. Windows 7, intensity 9.

Likely has nothing to do w/ cgminer and everything to do w/ updated drivers / SDK.

To Conman:
I really think including the SDK in the product title is a good idea.

This scenario keeps happening over and over.

a) person is running one version of cgminer and one version of SDK (say 2.1)
b) they upgrade drivers but cgminer caches the bin files (SDK 2.1) so they see no change in performance. "wow 12.1 w/ SDK 2.6 works great on my 5970".
c) some time later person upgrades cgminer = no bin files
d) on first run bin files are created (SDK 2.6) and performance is lower. wow cgminer 2.2.x really sucks.
e) to confirm they try running older version of cgminer (w/ cached SDK 2.1 bin) and performance is good again.

It really complicates troubleshooting as I am sure you are aware.

Would it be possible to modify bin files so they contain "metadata like SDK version at time of compilation"?

Then it might be more obvious to users.

cgminer 2.1.2 (w/ SDK 2.1 binaries) = 715 MH/s.
cgminer 2.1.2 (w/ SDK 2.6 binaries) = 600 MH/s.
cgminer 2.2.5 (w/ SDK 2.6 binaries) = 600 MH/s.

Pretty obvious there where the problem lies.

Containing "metadata like SDK" is just as useful as asking for the output of -n which tells you the same thing. It won't stop people from asking and it won't make them read the readme which has lots about hashrate dropping... but then it's TOO WELL DOCUMENTED now since there's so much in the readme... Short of a loud message repeatedly saying "you are running sdk 2.6 SDK which sucks dicks" I don't think anyone is gonna get the message =(

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Quote from: Global BTC on February 13, 2012, 08:41:54 AM

I tried upgrading from 2.0.8 to 2.2.5 but my 5s average dropped from 715 Mh/s to 600 Mh/s.

Dual 5850, one at 850, the other at 900 Mhz, memory at 300 Mhz on both. Windows 7, intensity 9.

Likely has nothing to do w/ cgminer and everything to do w/ updated drivers / SDK.

To Conman:
I really think including the SDK in the product title is a good idea.

This scenario keeps happening over and over.

a) person is running one version of cgminer and one version of SDK (say 2.1)
b) they upgrade drivers but cgminer caches the bin files (SDK 2.1) so they see no change in performance. "wow 12.1 w/ SDK 2.6 works great on my 5970".
c) some time later person upgrades cgminer = no bin files
d) on first run bin files are created (SDK 2.6) and performance is lower. wow cgminer 2.2.x really sucks.
e) to confirm they try running older version of cgminer (w/ cached SDK 2.1 bin) and performance is good again.

It really complicates troubleshooting as I am sure you are aware.

Would it be possible to modify bin files so they contain "metadata like SDK version at time of compilation"?

Then it might be more obvious to users.

cgminer 2.1.2 (w/ SDK 2.1 binaries) = 715 MH/s.
cgminer 2.1.2 (w/ SDK 2.6 binaries) = 600 MH/s.
cgminer 2.2.5 (w/ SDK 2.6 binaries) = 600 MH/s.

Pretty obvious there where the problem lies.

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