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Topic: OFFICIAL CGMINER mining software thread for linux/win/osx/mips/arm/r-pi 4.11.0 - page 681. (Read 5805728 times)

legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Sorry, I meant is it the same *.bin file you are running with each one.
When you start cgminer the first time it creates the *.bin file.
Every time after that it will use the *.bin file it created the first time (unless you delete it)
The fastest *.bin should perform at the same speed no matter which version of cgminer you are using (unless there is a problem with the cgminer version you are using)

Lastly:
cgminer -n
cgminer -V
will report info - what do they say?
newbie
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usual ... is it the same binary?
What does cgminer -n report for each ...
Edit: and cgminer -V
and are they pre-built or did you compile them?

i had to compile them, because i made the mistake of installing an x86 debian on my home server (before reinstalling it, i was able to use your binaries).

On windows i use your binaries, of course.

Also, on windows, the difference is less noticeable, but its there too.

I mine only with 5830 (i recently got a new rig with 2 5850, with ubuntu, but i havent touched it yet, the previous owner had phoenix running, and its still running.

ps: how can i run cgminer when the user logs in, automatically ? i tried putting the script i use, but nothing happens (it does work if i double click it, i have it in /home/user/bitcoin, with a symlink on the desktop, which is what i use)
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
usual ... is it the same binary?
What does cgminer -n report for each ...
Edit: and cgminer -V
and are they pre-built or did you compile them?
newbie
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Merit: 0
i finally got the time to compile 2.1.1, 2.1.2 and 2.2.1 on my debian machine (sdk 2.4).

Just like in windows, 2.2.1 is slower than 2.0.7, 2.1.1 and 2.1.2.

My hd5830 running at 975/300 produces 300 to 315 MHASH with the older versions, but with 2.2.1, it produces 280 to 290 MHASH.
hero member
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I'm not sure if this would indicate effectiveness of your fix for false positives on pools providing work, but thought I would provide it just in case:
Code:
[2012-01-31 12:01:39] New block detected on network before longpoll, waiting on fresh work
[2012-01-31 12:01:39] Pool 0 not providing work fast enough
[2012-01-31 12:01:39] LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work
Fedora 15 x64, cgminer 2.2.1, no shares were submitted to other pools in the vicinity of these records.
hero member
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thank you for posting that information, thats quite useful info, I have tested them all and the best for mining with 5xxxx in windows is 11.9 without a doubt

The 11.9 driver or the SDK that comes with it? Or both?

Remember that you can use any combination of driver/sdk, for example you could install 12.1 and afterwards install SDK 2.5.732.1 (which comes packed with the 11.9 driver).

yes I understand that, I have had best luck with 11.9 with the sdk it with, I recently tried many others including sdk 2.1 and 2.4

for windows 7 x64 radeon 5xxx I can confirm you cant get better than 11.9 with the sdk that comes with it.

hero member
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We will stand and fight.
But by then, it's too late (and the FPGA destroyed), right?

should be not. if only the heatsink is still on the chip, the FPGA is hard to burnout by a fan fail. a FPGA only generate about 6~7W heat, much less than a GPU. but it will output error data at first.




I'm at a loss as to why option 6 needs to be requested for these FPGA's
(Yeah this is the 2nd one to be mentioned here in the cgminer thread and also the 2nd time the question had to be asked)
Do all the companies who make these things believe that their device will never have heat problems?

Fans stop, rooms get hot, some countries even have summer every year Tongue
If it works fine for 24 hours straight without causing any damage when you put it in an oven at 50 degrees Celsius without a fan running on the FPGA, then OK yep knowing the temp may not be necessary
Otherwise ... temp monitoring is necessary.
(Fan rate would be good too but not mandatory: temp will go up if the fan dies anyway)


 Grin FPGA mining is not a heat concentrated project. engineers rarely pay attention to overheating protection on these stuff. at least that's my case.
spartan-6 FPGAs haven't a built-in thermal sensor. so a monitor of temperature needs additional hardware, and logic in the FPGA.
may i put a "heat switch" on board, and simply reset the FPGA when they reached a TEMP protect point? so the software will notice the FPGAs stopped and tigger some exception handling code?
Vbs
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thank you for posting that information, thats quite useful info, I have tested them all and the best for mining with 5xxxx in windows is 11.9 without a doubt

The 11.9 driver or the SDK that comes with it? Or both?

Remember that you can use any combination of driver/sdk, for example you could install 12.1 and afterwards install SDK 2.5.732.1 (which comes packed with the 11.9 driver).
hero member
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This is tricky. It's very hard rolling back on such a big change. However I do think it was not the best idea to do it by default and the release has only been out one day. I suspect going to 2.2.0 will break far more people's configurations than going from 2.2.0 to 2.2.1, and then using the --gpu-reorder option will fix it (which is what I decided to call it). So, sorry, I've pretty much decided to make it default to off.

I am sorry to hear that but I understand.

BTW.  I have an interesting error.  Because of BSOD when trying to update my drivers I reinstalled windows.  I installed 11.12 but not SDK.  Then installed SDK 2.5 from driver version 11.7.

2.1.12 works flawlessly.  No reduction in hashrate, and no CPU bug.

2.2.0 bombs out when starting w/ error (and yes I should have quoted it exactly Smiley ) about OpenCL compiled 0 byte binary.  It then loads the display w/ all cards listed as "off" and then promptly hard faults (Windows: cgminer.exe has encountered an error and will be closed).

Haven't done any investigating because 2.1.12 works fine and after upgrading my entire Linux farm to BAMT (working flawless w/ cgminer now BTW) and reinstalling windows I am done with upgrades for a few days. Smiley

Did you try other versions of the 2.5 SDK, aside from 11.7? Any performance differences?

I just did a quick review of SDK versions from driver 11.6 to 12.1 and this is what I got:
(In bold are the highest minors for each major version)

SDK2.4 - SDK 2.4.595.10
11.6     - SDK 2.4.650.9
11.7     - SDK 2.5.684.213
SDK2.5 - SDK 2.5.684.213
11.8     - SDK 2.5.709.2
11.9     - SDK 2.5.732.1
11.10   - SDK 2.5.775.2
11.11   - SDK 2.5.793.1
SDK2.6 - SDK 2.6.831.4
11.12   - SDK 2.6 (10.0.831.4)
12.1     - SDK 2.6 (10.0.851.4)

I'm currently on 11.6 (driver & sdk 2.4.650.9) with 2x5850's but I think I'll try 12.1 with SDK 2.5.793.1 from the 11.11 driver to see how it goes!

Cheers!

thank you for posting that information, thats quite useful info, I have tested them all and the best for mining with 5xxxx in windows is 11.9 without a doubt
-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
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Ruu \o/
Almost 24 hours has passed since 2.2.1 without massive death and destruction this time. Thank goodness.  Smiley
Vbs
hero member
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This is tricky. It's very hard rolling back on such a big change. However I do think it was not the best idea to do it by default and the release has only been out one day. I suspect going to 2.2.0 will break far more people's configurations than going from 2.2.0 to 2.2.1, and then using the --gpu-reorder option will fix it (which is what I decided to call it). So, sorry, I've pretty much decided to make it default to off.

I am sorry to hear that but I understand.

BTW.  I have an interesting error.  Because of BSOD when trying to update my drivers I reinstalled windows.  I installed 11.12 but not SDK.  Then installed SDK 2.5 from driver version 11.7.

2.1.12 works flawlessly.  No reduction in hashrate, and no CPU bug.

2.2.0 bombs out when starting w/ error (and yes I should have quoted it exactly Smiley ) about OpenCL compiled 0 byte binary.  It then loads the display w/ all cards listed as "off" and then promptly hard faults (Windows: cgminer.exe has encountered an error and will be closed).

Haven't done any investigating because 2.1.12 works fine and after upgrading my entire Linux farm to BAMT (working flawless w/ cgminer now BTW) and reinstalling windows I am done with upgrades for a few days. Smiley

Did you try other versions of the 2.5 SDK, aside from 11.7? Any performance differences?

I just did a quick review of SDK versions from driver 11.6 to 12.1 and this is what I got:
(In bold are the highest minors for each major version)

SDK2.4 - SDK 2.4.595.10
11.6     - SDK 2.4.650.9
11.7     - SDK 2.5.684.213
SDK2.5 - SDK 2.5.684.213
11.8     - SDK 2.5.709.2
11.9     - SDK 2.5.732.1
11.10   - SDK 2.5.775.2
11.11   - SDK 2.5.793.1
SDK2.6 - SDK 2.6.831.4
11.12   - SDK 2.6 (10.0.831.4)
12.1     - SDK 2.6 (10.0.851.4)

I'm currently on 11.6 (driver & sdk 2.4.650.9) with 2x5850's but I think I'll try 12.1 with SDK 2.5.793.1 from the 11.11 driver to see how it goes!

Cheers!
legendary
Activity: 1764
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sorry to ask this but this thread is so fricking long!

when will cgminer support 7xxx video cards?

It does, just not well. If you would like to help improve it look here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/collection-for-cgminer-7970-card-as-been-sent-thank-you-everyone-61027

LOL, i don't own one and i just sent him some btc!  but i guess one day i might...

thank you.  your probably the 'unknown' i just put on the list Wink

no, i'm not the one.  the btc i sent was to ckolivas directly. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1000
sorry to ask this but this thread is so fricking long!

when will cgminer support 7xxx video cards?

It does, just not well. If you would like to help improve it look here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/collection-for-cgminer-7970-card-as-been-sent-thank-you-everyone-61027

LOL, i don't own one and i just sent him some btc!  but i guess one day i might...

thank you.  your probably the 'unknown' i just put on the list Wink
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
sorry to ask this but this thread is so fricking long!

when will cgminer support 7xxx video cards?

It does, just not well. If you would like to help improve it look here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/collection-for-cgminer-7970-card-as-been-sent-thank-you-everyone-61027

LOL, i don't own one and i just sent him some btc!  but i guess one day i might...
donator
Activity: 798
Merit: 500
sorry to ask this but this thread is so fricking long!

when will cgminer support 7xxx video cards?

It does, just not well. If you would like to help improve it look here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/collection-for-cgminer-7970-card-as-been-sent-thank-you-everyone-61027
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
sorry to ask this but this thread is so fricking long!

when will cgminer support 7xxx video cards?
-ck
legendary
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Ruu \o/
Thanks a lot, but as I said, mine came back yesterday so assuming it stays up and running with the new motherboard, I will be fine  Cheesy
legendary
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ckolivas if you need a rig for testing, let me now / drop me a mail and we'll find a way Smiley

ocminer
-ck
legendary
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Ruu \o/
thanks for this release ckolivas - 1 BTC Donation Sent!

can you explain more about what the problem was with the gpu reordering by default?

you said "The whole GPU-reorder  saga caused massive damage"

which is a vague and frightening statement - and since i am using it on all five of my rigs I would love to hear the official statement of what exact damage we are talking about..

thanks again !!!! Smiley
And thank you Smiley

Okay so the GPU reorder saga brought up a few issues, lemme explain just for reassurance.

OpenCL and the ATI Display Library have completely different numbers for their devices - and there is no way to correlate the devices

- If they report exactly the same number of devices, and ADL was working properly (built in etc) then the last release worked fine.
- However OpenCL will report more devices than ADL if you have more than one display connected to one GPU.
- OpenCL will report less devices than ADL if you have a card that has no mining support.
- ADL will report only one device if you don't export DISPLAY on linux, or if you use some remote viewer on windows (I think).

On 2.2.0:
If you had less ADL devices than OpenCL, only the ADL devices would work, but the devices that worked on 2.2.0 would be different to the ones working on 2.1.2 because of the changed order.
->If you had less ADL devices, it would put all the mining threads on the one device.
If you had more ADL devices than OpenCL, hardware monitoring wouldn't work.
->If hardware monitoring didn't work, you often couldn't mine at all/crash whatnot.
On Linux the ordering was almost never out of order (unlike windows) but it was reversed. However it was not universally reversed...

On 2.2.1: Now I can cope with discrepancies in the number of devices and still have the option of trying to reorder by bus ID. So it's quite a safe option now, whereas previously it worked more often than not, but when it didn't work it would do weird and wonderful things.

It was getting impossible to debug this without a real mining rig and it was just fortuitous that my rig came back to me yesterday.

All in all, I was just dealing with more AMD facepalm...
donator
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New version: 2.2.1

So I'm really loathe to leaving a version out there that makes people adopt to massive change that may not have been a good idea, only to have to pull it again in the future. Today I had the luxury of my long-lost mining rig returning so I was finally able to actually do some meaningful debugging and testing of the code I was putting into cgminer and came up with the conclusion: 2.2.0 was a stinker. I spent most of today putting out all the spot fires under my feet and to release something a little more respectable as quickly as possible.
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FYI, the crash I reported is gone with the latest updates. Thanks!
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