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Locking down the announcement, since it served its purpose ! You are free to continue addressing any issues/further dialogue in our official topic here -->  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/shutting-down-dicebitcoin-be-the-bank-1-house-edge-716312

Thank you all once again.

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I did a profile on Manl over multiple accounts when Dicebitcoin started, and he exhibits signs of a classic con man.

The senarios below sum up the testing I did on Dicebitcoin (I also did these same tests on Dooglus, Dean and Stunna. These 3 passed the test)
1. account has over 20btc deposited, manl is very freindly. Even when I ask stupid questions
2. Account has a flakes deposited, manl is very rude, even when I ask legit questions
3. Account has nothing in it. Manl is trolling me hard.

Con men will always get their victims through gaining trust. They gain trust in 3 ways:
1. trust by association
2. trust by acting like a trustworthy figure. Like dressing like a pilot or doctor etc (not possible online)
3. trust by explaining what great deeds they did in the past. <-- this is the biggest sign of a conman.

Dicebitcoin is guilty of 1 & 3. By gaining Dooglus's trust in the beginning they obtained trust by association. This was massive for them and gained the entire community trust which meant they now had everyone's trust (except mine). Doog is not to blame here, he trusted them and they used that to gain more trust in the community.

Dicebitcoin then proceeded to do the long con. They know, gamblers don't usually verify, because most gamblers believe that because it is verifiable then they wont be cheated. Investors trust the owners and cannot verify if they are being cheated. So a dice site like dicebitcoin would play on their own accounts to get income from investors. They would then reduce the payout amount on the player accounts by skipping a few bets here and there to make up for it. It seemed that the amount of this reducing player accounts was indeed buggy, as finnile's account would never have been intended for a setting of 90% bets losing. Then use trust to create a story, since now you got caught stealing.
One would pay out the people who lost because you need to keep the trust levels up. You would then proceed to do the impossible with mateo account (I watched it live for hours). Then to con people into false trust again, you lose all the gains to the bank once everyone has already divested. You then try for new trust by saying it was variance and mateo just got lucky. We actually talked about this while it was happening. We predicted Mateo would lose to the bank at some point to show the betting was legit. And that's what happened.. Mateo's winning was impossible in terms of variance, and hit just so happened that the worlds luckiest guy was around on Dicebitcoin when they got caught stealing.

The entire thing is classic con man. You couldn't write a better psychological example of how con men operate.

The argument of "I didn't run with 7000 btc so i must be trusted" is not a good one, because most con men will run a long term con to make the most profit and keep trust in the community. No good con men works like a petty thief, they are sophisticated in the art of social engineering.

Also, keep in mind we do not know who dicebitcoin are. Whois lookup is false, your names are fake... there is nothing tracing you back to who you are. Dooglus is traceable, and when I tested his character on JD, a year go, he didn't change his personality if i had no money or a lot of money.

Casino investors and players, please do not fall for social engineered scams. People question Stunna at PD all the time, but the fact is, he can't scam investors, because he has none. and he can't scam players, because he has a provably fair algorithm. If you don't like his algorithm, then don't play there. And always verify your bets on all sites!



You sir are the king of suckpuppets Smiley
Very good analysis bodgybrothers.
Time to find the man(L)Gerr and their families, and offer them a one way ticket to ISIS-recreation park.

As for you, i put you a negative trust, because i had enough of your shit. You can leave me back, as you could possibly check, the trust system is not my no1 priority.

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Very good analysis bodgybrothers.
Time to find the man(L)Gerr and their families, and offer them a one way ticket to ISIS-recreation park.
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Dooglus is traceable, and when I tested his character on JD, a year go, he didn't change his personality if i had no money or a lot of money.

I made a point of trying not to know how much people had because I wanted to treat all customers equally.

I remember one Sunday afternoon when LiKaShing got upset that I didn't have 24/7 support in place and he had to wait 3 hours for the hot wallet to be refilled. That's the only time I can think of that a player seemed to expect special treatment because he was a "good customer".
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I did a profile on Manl over multiple accounts when Dicebitcoin started, and he exhibits signs of a classic con man.

The senarios below sum up the testing I did on Dicebitcoin (I also did these same tests on Dooglus, Dean and Stunna. These 3 passed the test)
1. account has over 20btc deposited, manl is very freindly. Even when I ask stupid questions
2. Account has a flakes deposited, manl is very rude, even when I ask legit questions
3. Account has nothing in it. Manl is trolling me hard.

Con men will always get their victims through gaining trust. They gain trust in 3 ways:
1. trust by association
2. trust by acting like a trustworthy figure. Like dressing like a pilot or doctor etc (not possible online)
3. trust by explaining what great deeds they did in the past. <-- this is the biggest sign of a conman.

Dicebitcoin is guilty of 1 & 3. By gaining Dooglus's trust in the beginning they obtained trust by association. This was massive for them and gained the entire community trust which meant they now had everyone's trust (except mine). Doog is not to blame here, he trusted them and they used that to gain more trust in the community.

Dicebitcoin then proceeded to do the long con. They know, gamblers don't usually verify, because most gamblers believe that because it is verifiable then they wont be cheated. Investors trust the owners and cannot verify if they are being cheated. So a dice site like dicebitcoin would play on their own accounts to get income from investors. They would then reduce the payout amount on the player accounts by skipping a few bets here and there to make up for it. It seemed that the amount of this reducing player accounts was indeed buggy, as finnile's account would never have been intended for a setting of 90% bets losing. Then use trust to create a story, since now you got caught stealing.
One would pay out the people who lost because you need to keep the trust levels up. You would then proceed to do the impossible with mateo account (I watched it live for hours). Then to con people into false trust again, you lose all the gains to the bank once everyone has already divested. You then try for new trust by saying it was variance and mateo just got lucky. We actually talked about this while it was happening. We predicted Mateo would lose to the bank at some point to show the betting was legit. And that's what happened.. Mateo's winning was impossible in terms of variance, and hit just so happened that the worlds luckiest guy was around on Dicebitcoin when they got caught stealing.

The entire thing is classic con man. You couldn't write a better psychological example of how con men operate.

The argument of "I didn't run with 7000 btc so i must be trusted" is not a good one, because most con men will run a long term con to make the most profit and keep trust in the community. No good con men works like a petty thief, they are sophisticated in the art of social engineering.

Also, keep in mind we do not know who dicebitcoin are. Whois lookup is false, your names are fake... there is nothing tracing you back to who you are. Dooglus is traceable, and when I tested his character on JD, a year go, he didn't change his personality if i had no money or a lot of money.

Casino investors and players, please do not fall for social engineered scams. People question Stunna at PD all the time, but the fact is, he can't scam investors, because he has none. and he can't scam players, because he has a provably fair algorithm. If you don't like his algorithm, then don't play there. And always verify your bets on all sites!

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Not sure what happened but I've made over 160,000 rolls and I've only had one bad 21 loss streak.....

On JD and DD I would've had a 21 loss streak every 25k bets.

I can check that for you if you like.

Can you tell me your userids on JD and DD?

Seeing a 21 loss streak in just 25k bets sounds pretty unlikely. At 49.5% you should see a 21 loss streak every 1.7 million bets or so on average.
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Not sure what happened but I've made over 160,000 rolls and I've only had one bad 21 loss streak.....

On JD and DD I would've had a 21 loss streak every 25k bets.
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Sorry I had to be clearer about the diff. This diff is from the commit that introduced the malicious code. It was part of a feature branch (https://www.atlassian.com/git/tutorials/comparing-workflows/feature-branch-workflow) that he was working on about some frontend and SEO stuff. Actually the changes that the whole branch introduced are a lot more than the changes depicted in this diff.

Yeah, that's the only reasonable explanation I could think of too. Smiley
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Here is the diff for the malicious code commit, for what it's worth http://pastebin.com/anXZmNM6

Thanks. I'm surprised how small it is. All it does it changes a couple of tags and adds the cheat code. I was thinking the cheat code would be buried deep among a bunch of complex unrelated changes but apparently not.<br /></div><br />12 hours later, and a thought popped unbidden into my head:<br /><br />"Hey, I know why I thought the changes would be bigger... because manl SAID they were bigger!<br /><br />Remember this?<br /><br /><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8721964">Quote from: DiceBitcoin on September 07, 2014, 08:31:41 PM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8721893">Quote from: dooglus on September 07, 2014, 08:23:33 PM</a></div><div class="quote">How sure can you be that this malicious ex-employee isn't currently draining the bankroll by playing with a leaked seed?<br /></div><br />We rolled back the admin update that it was deployed with the buggy code with an older version(lesser features and more PITA for us to do things but works and its made by us).<br /></div><br />Rolling back the update resulted in "lesser features and more PITA for us to do things". But the patch that was presented here did nothing other than change the <title> tags and make the site skip some winning nonces.<br /><br />Funny how the brain works isn't it?<br /></div><br />Sorry I had to be clearer about the diff. This diff is from the commit that introduced the malicious code. It was part of a feature branch (<a class="ul" href="https://www.atlassian.com/git/tutorials/comparing-workflows/feature-branch-workflow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.atlassian.com/git/tutorials/comparing-workflows/feature-branch-workflow</a>) that he was working on about some frontend and SEO stuff. Actually the changes that the whole branch introduced are a lot more than the changes depicted in this diff. <br /><br /><br /> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/boumalo-219037" title="Profile of boumalo">boumalo</a> </div> <div class="position">legendary</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/legendary.gif" alt="" title="Legendary level"> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 1918</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 1018</div> <div class="avatar"> </div> <div class="description"></div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/boumalo-219037" title="Profile of boumalo"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg8936981"></a> <a href="/topic/m.8936981">Re: OFFICIAL DICEBITCO.IN ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THE SKIPPED NONCES INCIDENT</a> </div> <div class="date">September 23, 2014, 05:10:05 AM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.8936981">#75</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> <div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8934837">Quote from: dooglus on September 23, 2014, 12:11:21 AM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8927512">Quote from: dooglus on September 22, 2014, 11:15:23 AM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8925692">Quote from: DiceBitcoin on September 22, 2014, 08:42:46 AM</a></div><div class="quote">Here is the diff for the malicious code commit, for what it's worth <a class="ul" href="http://pastebin.com/anXZmNM6" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://pastebin.com/anXZmNM6</a><br /></div><br />Thanks. I'm surprised how small it is. All it does it changes a couple of <title> tags and adds the cheat code. I was thinking the cheat code would be buried deep among a bunch of complex unrelated changes but apparently not.<br /></div><br />12 hours later, and a thought popped unbidden into my head:<br /><br />"Hey, I know why I thought the changes would be bigger... because manl SAID they were bigger!<br /><br />Remember this?<br /><br /><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8721964">Quote from: DiceBitcoin on September 07, 2014, 08:31:41 PM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8721893">Quote from: dooglus on September 07, 2014, 08:23:33 PM</a></div><div class="quote">How sure can you be that this malicious ex-employee isn't currently draining the bankroll by playing with a leaked seed?<br /></div><br />We rolled back the admin update that it was deployed with the buggy code with an older version(lesser features and more PITA for us to do things but works and its made by us).<br /></div><br />Rolling back the update resulted in "lesser features and more PITA for us to do things". But the patch that was presented here did nothing other than change the <title> tags and make the site skip some winning nonces.<br /><br />Funny how the brain works isn't it?<br /></div><br />WOW, hand in the cookie jar </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/micro-224248" title="Profile of MICRO">MICRO</a> </div> <div class="position">legendary</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/legendary.gif" alt="" title="Legendary level"> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 2464</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 1037</div> <div class="avatar"> <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_224248.png" alt="" title="Profile photo of MICRO"> </div> <div class="description">CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com</div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/micro-224248" title="Profile of MICRO"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg8936973"></a> <a href="/topic/m.8936973">Re: OFFICIAL DICEBITCO.IN ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THE SKIPPED NONCES INCIDENT</a> </div> <div class="date">September 23, 2014, 05:09:16 AM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.8936973">#74</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> <div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8934837">Quote from: dooglus on September 23, 2014, 12:11:21 AM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8927512">Quote from: dooglus on September 22, 2014, 11:15:23 AM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8925692">Quote from: DiceBitcoin on September 22, 2014, 08:42:46 AM</a></div><div class="quote">Here is the diff for the malicious code commit, for what it's worth <a class="ul" href="http://pastebin.com/anXZmNM6" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://pastebin.com/anXZmNM6</a><br /></div><br />Thanks. I'm surprised how small it is. All it does it changes a couple of <title> tags and adds the cheat code. I was thinking the cheat code would be buried deep among a bunch of complex unrelated changes but apparently not.<br /></div><br />12 hours later, and a thought popped unbidden into my head:<br /><br />"Hey, I know why I thought the changes would be bigger... because manl SAID they were bigger!<br /><br />Remember this?<br /><br /><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8721964">Quote from: DiceBitcoin on September 07, 2014, 08:31:41 PM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8721893">Quote from: dooglus on September 07, 2014, 08:23:33 PM</a></div><div class="quote">How sure can you be that this malicious ex-employee isn't currently draining the bankroll by playing with a leaked seed?<br /></div><br />We rolled back the admin update that it was deployed with the buggy code with an older version(lesser features and more PITA for us to do things but works and its made by us).<br /></div><br />Rolling back the update resulted in "lesser features and more PITA for us to do things". But the patch that was presented here did nothing other than change the <title> tags and make the site skip some winning nonces.<br /><br />Funny how the brain works isn't it?<br /></div><br />Lol , that is so true. They didn't need to roll back update this short code was so easy to spot and remove. <br /><br />I guess there is argument coming: "We didn't know if he changed some other code or added more malicious code so we rolled back whole update" . <br /><br />There are so many contradictions in theirs story , like when they stated on chat that he and gary are the only 2 devs , i mean why would u hide the fact that u got a new employee .  <br /><br />Its just rly shady story with no proofs whatsoever. </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/snarlpill-271877" title="Profile of snarlpill">snarlpill</a> </div> <div class="position">hero member</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 910</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 530</div> <div class="avatar"> <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_271877.jpg" alt="" title="Profile photo of snarlpill"> </div> <div class="description">$5 24k Gold FREE 4 sign-up! 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I'm surprised how small it is. All it does it changes a couple of <title> tags and adds the cheat code. I was thinking the cheat code would be buried deep among a bunch of complex unrelated changes but apparently not.<br /></div><br />12 hours later, and a thought popped unbidden into my head:<br /><br />"Hey, I know why I thought the changes would be bigger... because manl SAID they were bigger!<br /><br />Remember this?<br /><br /><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8721964">Quote from: DiceBitcoin on September 07, 2014, 08:31:41 PM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8721893">Quote from: dooglus on September 07, 2014, 08:23:33 PM</a></div><div class="quote">How sure can you be that this malicious ex-employee isn't currently draining the bankroll by playing with a leaked seed?<br /></div><br />We rolled back the admin update that it was deployed with the buggy code with an older version(lesser features and more PITA for us to do things but works and its made by us).<br /></div><br />Rolling back the update resulted in "lesser features and more PITA for us to do things". But the patch that was presented here did nothing other than change the <title> tags and make the site skip some winning nonces.<br /><br />Funny how the brain works isn't it? </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/joecker-157589" title="Profile of Joecker">Joecker</a> </div> <div class="position">newbie</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 48</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 0</div> <div class="avatar"> </div> <div class="description"></div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/joecker-157589" title="Profile of Joecker"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg8930708"></a> <a href="/topic/m.8930708">Re: OFFICIAL DICEBITCO.IN ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THE SKIPPED NONCES INCIDENT</a> </div> <div class="date">September 22, 2014, 03:38:19 PM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.8930708">#71</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> <div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8930362">Quote from: alani123 on September 22, 2014, 03:05:20 PM</a></div><div class="quote">I believe that we should still give those guys credit for not running with an entire bankroll worth houndreads of thousands of dollars. <br /></div><a href="https://i.imgur.com/5aLV5YB.png" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/5aLV5YB.png</a> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/alani123-121796" title="Profile of alani123">alani123</a> </div> <div class="position">legendary</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/legendary.gif" alt="" title="Legendary level"> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 2422</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 1451</div> <div class="avatar"> <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_121796.png" alt="" title="Profile photo of alani123"> </div> <div class="description">Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform</div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/alani123-121796" title="Profile of alani123"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg8930362"></a> <a href="/topic/m.8930362">Re: OFFICIAL DICEBITCO.IN ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THE SKIPPED NONCES INCIDENT</a> </div> <div class="date">September 22, 2014, 03:05:20 PM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.8930362">#70</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> I believe that we should still give those guys credit for not running with an entire bankroll worth houndreads of thousands of dollars. </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/micro-224248" title="Profile of MICRO">MICRO</a> </div> <div class="position">legendary</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/legendary.gif" alt="" title="Legendary level"> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 2464</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 1037</div> <div class="avatar"> <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_224248.png" alt="" title="Profile photo of MICRO"> </div> <div class="description">CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com</div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/micro-224248" title="Profile of MICRO"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg8930310"></a> <a href="/topic/m.8930310">Re: OFFICIAL DICEBITCO.IN ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THE SKIPPED NONCES INCIDENT</a> </div> <div class="date">September 22, 2014, 02:59:29 PM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.8930310">#69</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> <div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8930274">Quote from: boumalo on September 22, 2014, 02:56:09 PM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8924658">Quote from: jaysabi on September 22, 2014, 07:08:16 AM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8911041">Quote from: Stunna on September 21, 2014, 05:36:23 AM</a></div><div class="quote">I wasn't implying that was the case with JD, obviously there is a chance of that being the case although I personally lean against that belief. That's how ridiculous these types of investments are, you're a trustworthy person but we ultimately have to take you at your word for 10k-20k coins. Even you'd agree that level of trust is ridiculous, now imagine doing the same with someone completely brand new in the community who has a proven scam record. <br /></div><br />lol, 'I wasn't implying that with JD, but I'm still totally implying that with JD.'<br /><br />You don't even realize what you're saying.<br /><br />Also, I agree with the post directly above this. You're abusing the trust system by leaving negative trust based on your suspicion on an issue that doesn't even concern you. Your motivations have been made clear here, and everywhere else you post. You continue to bash JD in a passive-aggressive manner, even though you say you're not implying certain things while continuing to imply them in the same sentence. You bash ever other site or site owner that is competition, and even if every single one of them is a legit point, your paranoia has led you to abuse the trust system to preemptively trash people who you think might start a competing site in the future.<br /><br />Dude, get a hold of yourself. You're not being an asset to the community when you act this way.<br /></div><br />When Stunna talked about the potential of investment sites to sc.am thought he was implying it may be the case for JD<br /><br />But Stunna's post is true : when you are talking about the possibility for someone to sca.m under the radar and on internet on a 20k figure, there is always a risk<br /></div><br />Or maybe EveryDice.<br /><br /> I never saw him say anything about justdice scamming like that . </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/boumalo-219037" title="Profile of boumalo">boumalo</a> </div> <div class="position">legendary</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/legendary.gif" alt="" title="Legendary level"> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 1918</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 1018</div> <div class="avatar"> </div> <div class="description"></div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/boumalo-219037" title="Profile of boumalo"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg8930274"></a> <a href="/topic/m.8930274">Re: OFFICIAL DICEBITCO.IN ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THE SKIPPED NONCES INCIDENT</a> </div> <div class="date">September 22, 2014, 02:56:09 PM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.8930274">#68</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> <div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8924658">Quote from: jaysabi on September 22, 2014, 07:08:16 AM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8911041">Quote from: Stunna on September 21, 2014, 05:36:23 AM</a></div><div class="quote">I wasn't implying that was the case with JD, obviously there is a chance of that being the case although I personally lean against that belief. That's how ridiculous these types of investments are, you're a trustworthy person but we ultimately have to take you at your word for 10k-20k coins. Even you'd agree that level of trust is ridiculous, now imagine doing the same with someone completely brand new in the community who has a proven scam record. <br /></div><br />lol, 'I wasn't implying that with JD, but I'm still totally implying that with JD.'<br /><br />You don't even realize what you're saying.<br /><br />Also, I agree with the post directly above this. You're abusing the trust system by leaving negative trust based on your suspicion on an issue that doesn't even concern you. Your motivations have been made clear here, and everywhere else you post. You continue to bash JD in a passive-aggressive manner, even though you say you're not implying certain things while continuing to imply them in the same sentence. You bash ever other site or site owner that is competition, and even if every single one of them is a legit point, your paranoia has led you to abuse the trust system to preemptively trash people who you think might start a competing site in the future.<br /><br />Dude, get a hold of yourself. You're not being an asset to the community when you act this way.<br /></div><br />When Stunna talked about the potential of investment sites to sc.am thought he was implying it may be the case for JD<br /><br />But Stunna's post is true : when you are talking about the possibility for someone to sca.m under the radar and on internet on a 20k figure, there is always a risk </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/jaysabi-187673" title="Profile of jaysabi">jaysabi</a> </div> <div class="position">legendary</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/legendary.gif" alt="" title="Legendary level"> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 2044</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 1115</div> <div class="avatar"> <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_187673.png" alt="" title="Profile photo of jaysabi"> </div> <div class="description">★777Coin.com★ Fun BTC Casino!</div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/jaysabi-187673" title="Profile of jaysabi"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg8929842"></a> <a href="/topic/m.8929842">Re: OFFICIAL DICEBITCO.IN ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THE SKIPPED NONCES INCIDENT</a> </div> <div class="date">September 22, 2014, 02:16:54 PM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.8929842">#67</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> <div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8929797">Quote from: Martijnvdc on September 22, 2014, 02:12:38 PM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8925692">Quote from: DiceBitcoin on September 22, 2014, 08:42:46 AM</a></div><div class="quote">Here is the diff for the malicious code commit, for what it's worth <a class="ul" href="http://pastebin.com/anXZmNM6" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://pastebin.com/anXZmNM6</a><br /></div>So basically, the commit was blindly accepted? Seems quite irresponsible...<br />Where's my refund?<br /></div><br />He's always maintained the commit was blindly accepted. The only question to my mind is if this whole 3rd developer thing is concocted or true. Manl's refusal to name the developer is troubling, especially since if he exists, he attempted to steal coins from the players Manl promised to treat fairly by running his site. Protecting this guy (if he exists) does not make you a trustworthy individual. </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/martijnvdc-151439" title="Profile of Martijnvdc">Martijnvdc</a> </div> <div class="position">sr. member</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 322</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 250</div> <div class="avatar"> </div> <div class="description"></div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/martijnvdc-151439" title="Profile of Martijnvdc"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg8929797"></a> <a href="/topic/m.8929797">Re: OFFICIAL DICEBITCO.IN ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THE SKIPPED NONCES INCIDENT</a> </div> <div class="date">September 22, 2014, 02:12:38 PM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.8929797">#66</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> <div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8925692">Quote from: DiceBitcoin on September 22, 2014, 08:42:46 AM</a></div><div class="quote">Here is the diff for the malicious code commit, for what it's worth <a class="ul" href="http://pastebin.com/anXZmNM6" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://pastebin.com/anXZmNM6</a><br /></div>So basically, the commit was blindly accepted? Seems quite irresponsible...<br />Where's my refund? </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/micro-224248" title="Profile of MICRO">MICRO</a> </div> <div class="position">legendary</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/legendary.gif" alt="" title="Legendary level"> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 2464</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 1037</div> <div class="avatar"> <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_224248.png" alt="" title="Profile photo of MICRO"> </div> <div class="description">CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com</div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/micro-224248" title="Profile of MICRO"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg8927710"></a> <a href="/topic/m.8927710">Re: OFFICIAL DICEBITCO.IN ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THE SKIPPED NONCES INCIDENT</a> </div> <div class="date">September 22, 2014, 11:29:05 AM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.8927710">#65</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> <div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8927512">Quote from: dooglus on September 22, 2014, 11:15:23 AM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.8925692">Quote from: DiceBitcoin on September 22, 2014, 08:42:46 AM</a></div><div class="quote">Here is the diff for the malicious code commit, for what it's worth <a class="ul" href="http://pastebin.com/anXZmNM6" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://pastebin.com/anXZmNM6</a><br /></div><br />Thanks. I'm surprised how small it is. All it does it changes a couple of <title> tags and adds the cheat code. I was thinking the cheat code would be buried deep among a bunch of complex unrelated changes but apparently not.<br /></div><br />This way  it was rly hard to miss it. 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