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Topic: [Official] Message from the Montreal Bitcoin Embassy (Read 9096 times)

legendary
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The Bitcoin Embassy just had its 4th meetup! Over 150 people visited us yesterday, WOW!!!

Pictures :

http://imgur.com/a/cfpxP

Kinda wish I was in or close to Montreal
donator
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The Bitcoin Embassy just had its 4th meetup! Over 150 people visited us yesterday, WOW!!!

Pictures :

http://imgur.com/a/cfpxP
sr. member
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Call me a cynic but having the word "Embassy" in the title makes it seem like this is being run by a bunch of egotistical morons with delusions of grandeur.

Then again Leckey, it may be that your own contributions to the bitcoin community are so phenomenal that their puny efforts are meaningless to you.  Would you mind sharing all that you are currently doing for the community compared to those "egotistical morons with delusions of grandeur"?

Note where I say: "makes it seem like", not "these people are". Bottom line, the name makes them sound egotistical and stupid.
sr. member
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Alright guys, no need to make this personal.

I will say it again: no one is doubting the hard work that is being put into this establishment, nor [should] anyone be knocking the folks who are behind that hard work. That hard work however, does not shield them from constructive criticism nor does it make them perfect.

Supporters of the name continually link the words ambassador and embassy, a connection in that in English has very little (if any) usage outside stately context. It appears to me as though the French expression is more favorable with the founders. The point of this post is that it should not have to rest on the english or french expression winning out, but instead some common ground should be found so that a more reasonable, holistic name can be agreed upon.

I have made my arguments quite clear and was largely ignored. This entire page is littered with other complaints, as I hope the people behind this establishment have seen. Only more will come, and it will be a needless argument that will come up again and again. And for what? Because you wanted to be right and can't accept that a more agreeable name could be found? Blind attachment to anything is never good. 

Ultimately it is up to the founders and if they choose not to change the name then so be it. But they should be aware of the consequences of their actions, namely that the word embassy sends the wrong message about Bitcoin to newcomers. Plain and simple.
newbie
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Call me a cynic but having the word "Embassy" in the title makes it seem like this is being run by a bunch of egotistical morons with delusions of grandeur.

I'll tell you what I see.  I see a group of people that have dedicated an entire building, in a prime location, to Bitcoin.  I see a group of passionate and hardworking bitcoiners working around the clock to create a Bitcoin Shop, to create a welcoming permanent meet-up space where events, lectures and classes will also be given.  This bunch of "egotistical morons with delusions of grandeur" are not getting paid to do this.  In fact, they are investing their time, efforts, and resources into the project that also includes a bitcoin-only incubator along with the Non-Profit Organization with a clear mission to help the adoption of bicoin, engage dialogs with regulators and financial institutions.  The "bunch of morons" in question have been invloved in the bitcoin space for years and are all very active in the community.  

May I suggest that before expressing your feelings about a group of people over a simple name that you happen not to like, first take the time to look at what they are doing and trying to accomplish.  You might find that perhaps you should be encouraging them instead of insulting them.

Then again Leckey, it may be that your own contributions to the bitcoin community are so phenomenal that their puny efforts are meaningless to you.  Would you mind sharing all that you are currently doing for the community compared to those "egotistical morons with delusions of grandeur"?
hero member
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In English it is fine to describe somebody as an ambassador of something, like you say, but it is always an informal description of the person, not an officially stated title. So a newspaper might describe a businessman as "an ambassador from such and such coalition" or whatever, but the man himself would never introduce himself "I am ambassador Jones", that would just sound pretentious. But the main point is that even though people may be described as ambassadors, nobody ever refers to their office as an "embassy". I am sure there is a different English word you could use. "Bitcoin Outreach Center", or something like that.

Or even shorter and to the point "Bitcoin Center"
hero member
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It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye

I'd have to agree... I'd like the "Embassy" part dropped. I don't quite like it.

Call me a cynic but having the word "Embassy" in the title makes it seem like this is being run by a bunch of egotistical morons with delusions of grandeur.

The name was taught in french first, then translated into english. It's relatively common in french to qualify somebody as an ambassador when that person is a representative of a specific domain, like sports, music, arts, etc. It seems it's not necessarily the case in english. Your feedback is considered though.

Even if you don't like the name, we are working hard to promote Bitcoin. We share the same objectives, and we would appreciate if you could refrain from using personal attacks.

Thanks and have a nice day.

In English it is fine to describe somebody as an ambassador of something, like you say, but it is always an informal description of the person, not an officially stated title. So a newspaper might describe a businessman as "an ambassador from such and such coalition" or whatever, but the man himself would never introduce himself "I am ambassador Jones", that would just sound pretentious. But the main point is that even though people may be described as ambassadors, nobody ever refers to their office as an "embassy". I am sure there is a different English word you could use. "Bitcoin Outreach Center", or something like that.
hero member
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Moje gratulacje stworzenia Ambasady Bitcoin napewno jest to niepodwarzalny aspekt umacniania Bitcoin .
Mam pytanie tzn. jeżeli jest stworzona Ambasada Bitcoin to czy mozna zlozyc podanie o paszport,z przyjemnoscia chcialbum byc posiadaczem paszportu Ambasady Bitcoin no i czy w razie przesladowan uzyskal bym azyl polityczny?.Jakie macie uprawnienia?

Pozdrawiam Serdecznie Smiley

We don't offer any of these services. Thank you for your kind words.

I'd have to agree... I'd like the "Embassy" part dropped. I don't quite like it.

Call me a cynic but having the word "Embassy" in the title makes it seem like this is being run by a bunch of egotistical morons with delusions of grandeur.

The name was taught in french first, then translated into english. It's relatively common in french to qualify somebody as an ambassador when that person is a representative of a specific domain, like sports, music, arts, etc. It seems it's not necessarily the case in english. Your feedback is considered though.

Even if you don't like the name, we are working hard to promote Bitcoin. We share the same objectives, and we would appreciate if you could refrain from using personal attacks.

Thanks and have a nice day.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
Moje gratulacje stworzenia Ambasady Bitcoin napewno jest to niepodwarzalny aspekt umacniania Bitcoin .
Mam pytanie tzn. jeżeli jest stworzona Ambasada Bitcoin to czy mozna zlozyc podanie o paszport,z przyjemnoscia chcialbum byc posiadaczem paszportu Ambasady Bitcoin no i czy w razie przesladowan uzyskal bym azyl polityczny?.Jakie macie uprawnienia?

Pozdrawiam Serdecznie Smiley
legendary
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Calm down poeple, this is just a name  
Get over it Roll Eyes
sr. member
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Re: whether the word ambassador is political or not:
2 Corinthians 5:20
We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God.

The original quote is about two thousand years old but the translation into English  is just a few hundred

Oh my...  Roll Eyes
sr. member
Activity: 434
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Call me a cynic but having the word "Embassy" in the title makes it seem like this is being run by a bunch of egotistical morons with delusions of grandeur.
full member
Activity: 178
Merit: 100
Re: whether the word ambassador is political or not:
2 Corinthians 5:20
We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God.

The original quote is about two thousand years old but the translation into English  is just a few hundred
hero member
Activity: 745
Merit: 501
Thanks to everyone who came for the meet-up. We hope you enjoyed it and that we will see you again.  Smiley

Also, we have a website available, it was a question I heard often during the meet-up. Here it is:
http://bitcoinembassy.ca/

Who are you at the Bitcoin Embassy?
hero member
Activity: 632
Merit: 500
Thanks to everyone who came for the meet-up. We hope you enjoyed it and that we will see you again.  Smiley

Also, we have a website available, it was a question I heard often during the meet-up. Here it is:
http://bitcoinembassy.ca/
hero member
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I'd have to agree... I'd like the "Embassy" part dropped. I don't quite like it.
full member
Activity: 238
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The Bitcoin Catalog ---> Get Started!
Any news. My work place is only 10 minutes walk to the embassy.



there will be a meetup on the 17th

Count me in for the next meetup!
and of course, will get some copies of our catalog available for the embassy  Wink
donator
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For those who would like to follow the Embassy on Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/bitcoinembassy
legendary
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Trusted Bitcoiner
Any news. My work place is only 10 minutes walk to the embassy.



there will be a meetup on the 17th
hero member
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Any news. My work place is only 10 minutes walk to the embassy.

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