Topic: OgNasty is a lying piece of kaka (Read 822 times)

You're on to something here. I suggested Venezuelan bolivars. See OgNasty doesn't seem to think that Bitcoin is money, but fiat apparently is. That's quite odd for someone who is an escrow and a treasurer on a Bitcoin forum. Granted he later deleted that post so maybe he realized that the hole was getting too deep. All these contortions just to deny that he returned less money to his investors than he got from them.


Considering that IRS guidance on the commodities subject didn't come out until sometime in 2014 IIRC, I asked OgNasty if his investors were made aware of his interpretation of Bitcoin being not money but never got an answer. Actually this might have been what triggered this latest wave of his lies against me/ib/BPIP/etc, he tends to do that sort of thing when he paints himself into a corner.

But why? ROI would be even higher when measured in Zimbabwean dollars! Imagine how rich you'd be if you would have given me 1 Bitcoin 5 years ago, and I give you 500% ROI today! I'll even throw in a free wheelbarrow to carry all your money.

Prior to the trust system you have 65 posts that mention "miner" (this would include plural "miners" as well). None of these posts mention any kind of giveaway or theft. What kind of miners did you give away? ASICs?

Here are the posts:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2136456
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2112162
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2096280
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2002766
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1981362
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1786516
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1592361
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1444937
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1397786
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1388475
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1386804
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1307867
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1269957
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1269949
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1234133
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1231561
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1228490
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1199713
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1057648
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1047690
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1043342
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.989804
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.985640
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.973055
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.970368
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.969749
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.968339
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.968199
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.968172
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.967648
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.954235
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.878215
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.863677
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.846556
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.801441
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.797865
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.768690
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.677855
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.675533
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.614173
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.608076
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.607255
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.606305
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.604210
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.589682
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.588306
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.585220
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.581313
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.577634
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.565679
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.532285
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.531712
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.483467
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.448936
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.446903
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.438231
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.393610
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.381164
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.380153
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.352650
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.344932
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.341582
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.306959
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.251489
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.197182

When you invest BTC into a mining organization generating BTC offering BTC returns, you measure the ROI in BTC.

I've checked.

Go to the NastyFans thread, go up to that little search box in the upper-right corner. Type "stolen" and hit search. It's OK... it's only 1 page of results, and no mention of any miner. Tried "theft", less results. I've tried many variations.
BONUS EDIT:
Every scam accusation OgNasty has started... no miners stolen here!


Here is our interaction regarding the signature:

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Blah blah blah, pick your mic back up tough guy.

No.  That is a fact.



No.  Everything was public.  If you want to go find the information, feel free to do so.  It isn't my responsibility to do your research for you.  Quite likely these events occurred prior to the creation of the trust network, which would be one of many possible explanations why there is no trail of "calling out" to your satisfaction.



No.  You are most definitely mad at me for wearing a signature that I removed for you before the end of my promised advertising period based on nothing more than your crying about lost funds.  You can call your harassment expressing your disappointment if you want, but it continues today, half a decade later.  Sure seems like an irrational holding of a grudge for me taking my responsibility as a paid advertiser seriously and exploring what happened before immediately jumping to conclusions.  No wonder you and suchshame get along so well...



I'd love to never communicate with or see your name ever again.  Stop making up lies about me and attempting to derail my threads and we'll have no interaction whatsoever.  I don't want to be associated with any part of your life, it is you that seems to need to be in mine though.

In short, grow up and fuck off already.  Problem solved.  *drops mic

Yes, your attacks.. and I'm not laughing. I saw the name of this thread and I thought to myself "Unfortunately, yes... yes he is."

I hope not.

Who died??   ^ I'll assume more lies... and in the same sentence that you call your reputation "honest". Mind boggling.

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Well thanks for offering. Although, I know this is a setup question which carries with it the attack that I am now going to be "demanding" you to do something.

I can hear you now: "You are nothing but a ____, and ___, and ___ and everyone knows it, I don't have to bow to your demands, can't you see I bought a cybertruck?.. I never got no return from that.. you must be a dodo."

.... but I'll entertain your request anyway, since you asked so nicely.
1) Retract your statement about the seats being over 125% "ROI". Then, start actually trying to achieve an ROI, instead of weaseling your way out of it.

2) Inform NastyFans on who stole the miners that were being donated to their organization, when it happened, and what was sent. *Another sign of mismanagement and/or shady activities behind-the-scenes. There is simply no legitimate reason OgNasty wouldn't have called out a thief who ran off with our miners.

3) Retract your statements about me "demanding" you remove your signature in 2016. I never once asked you to remove anything. I expressed my disappointment, that's it. And related, retract your recent new lies saying I "lost money gambling".
4) Knock off your baseless & deceptive attacks when you can't talk about the subject at hand.

Yes. Look at it. What do you think it means? Did I just decide one day for no reason whatsoever to create this thread, or perhaps your false statements have something to do with it? Like this gem here:


Literally to death? Are you seriously saying that ibminer's friend died?

I mean... your lies are literally on topic here but damn that's dark even for you.

My attacks?  LOL.  Look at the name of this thread.  People aren't stupid...  Your little group of friends has been dropping like flies after stressing themselves literally to death trying to destroy my honest reputation with lies.  How many more users have to disappear from this forum before you guys stop giving yourselves strokes and overdoses trying to further your petty internet drama?  What are you trying to achieve?  Maybe I can help.

I'll always be grateful for Vod. He created an awesome tool with BPIP, and he put his trust in me to access his code, database, etc. at a time when people (probably one or two people) on this forum were screwing with his site. I honestly thought this was going to be a short-term project to create the design for him and let him go with it. Never expected to have come this far with it, but I'm glad I did.

I'm grateful for suchmoon as well, I certainly couldn't have taken this project on by myself when Vod was done with the BS.. without suchmoon, BPIP might not be here right now at all.

While I'm at it, I'm also grateful for LoyceV, TryNinja, DdmrDdmr, and others that continue to create useful tools as well. I believe this community needs these tools more now then ever...  alright, enough with the violins.

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Unfortunately, trying to discuss any facts that go against a narcissistic sociopath's grandiose view of himself is equivalent to slamming your head against a brick wall. Not trying to call names here, it's literally what I have come to believe OgNasty to be.

However, I still can't let him say whatever he wants just because I'm concerned about the amount of additional lies and baseless accusations he's going to make about me, that I then have to point out/prove false/etc... it's all a fucking waste of energy... but that's what his attacks and smears are designed to do.. Wear you down. I do hope most people can see through his crap.

That could have been it.  I must have inferred the "relief" by the simplicity of the post, lol.  Also, the unedited version of the post does express a lack of interest in maintaining the site.  I seem to recall something more pointed, but that was nearly a year and half ago, and I don't expect anyone to trust my memory.  I don't.


Hmm, now I'm not sure.  I was following that thread at the time, and Vod's been known to edit certain posts repeatedly to use as an "update."  Maybe he used that post in that manner.

I'm quite certain it did:

Vod's unedited post didn't say that, but there could have been more editing in the week before the final version of that post emerged.

Lol, I'm trying to do too many things at once.

Not sure which post you mean but Vod posted the link to ibminer's new BPIP thread and locked his thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53424059

Then he posted numerous times in the new thread offering advice etc.


The original version of that same post above said something about not wanting to waste any more time and money on it.

It's an obvious lie.  There's plenty of evidence of BPIP's transition of ownership being amicable and smooth.  If I remember correctly I learned about it from a post made by Vod, and I got the sense that he was relieved that someone else wanted to mange it.  I can't seem to find that post at the moment, and I don't have a lot of time to dig.  

I also recall a time when the site was down, and I feared that Vod would take it down permanently due to not being able to manage it.  I don't remember if it was something Vod said that made me think that, or me just being in a panic.  I use the site frequently, and I found it invaluable when I was running my doomed lending business.

Back to the subject of OG's lying: If nothing else, this most recent tidbit of not-so-subtle defamation should make it obvious to anyone who's paying attention; if you challenge OGNasty or bring up uncomfortable questions about his business practices, prepare to be slandered and defamed.  Even the most obvious lies such as this one will be spread and repeated.

Of course not. Try asking him for proof and watch him make more shit up to out-stink the previous shit.


I don't think he really gives a fuck, it's just an attack angle against two people he dislikes for various reasons (ibminer and myself) and a way to irritate Vod, perhaps even goading him to break his promise to leave the forum and compelling him to come back to deny the bullshit he (Og) still keeps spreading.

Vod, if you're reading this - don't . Just let Og dig his hole, the deeper the better.

Thanks for clarifying that for me--I was just curious and didn't realize Vod was no longer the admin of bpip (and I didn't realize a thread like this would be kicked off, but so be it). 

As to OgNasty's comment on you stealing the site from Vod because of his mental health issues.....how would that even be possible?  Vod certainly hasn't made any comments to that effect, and I know you (suchmoon) and ibminer are on good terms with him and thus I can't see either one of you trying to take advantage of any sort of mental health issues (assuming Vod has any aside from the stroke).  Does OgNasty have any evidence that the site was "stolen" from Vod? 

And as an aside, given the contentious relationship between Vod and OgNasty, why would OgNasty even give a fuck even if it were true? 

Furthermore, OgNasty recently announced that the minted seats for his 5oz coin holders have reached "ROI", with "over 125% return".

Quote from: OgNasty on February 24, 2021, 02:03:12 PM

Looks like another series of Minted Seats has surpassed the cost to purchase in held BTC, or in other words, original purchasers of these seats have reached ROI and are sitting on profits as originally sold 5oz Minted Seats are now holding $474.11 with another $29.71 pending in BTC under the threshold amount, over a 125% return!

I animatedly disagree with this, as I began expressing here.

He seems to indicate:

Quote from: OgNasty on March 19, 2021, 02:01:19 PM

I don’t like to base the success or failure of what I’m doing on whether or not a currency I have no control over goes up or down. NastyFans has exceeded every expectation I ever had for it.

But then he claims over 125% "ROI" on his shares solely based on Bitcoin's value rising.

He would have never claimed this ROI last year, or the year before, or the year before.. and hasn't done anything himself to increase his shares value since then.. so why does he think it is OK to base his coin/seat's success on Bitcoin's USD value going up?  It's a lie.. a trick.. a gimmick. What's worse, it's a way to eliminate obligations to make prior investors whole.

These shares (or "seats") were purchased with BTC, for a piece/share/% of a BTC mining organization, which promised weekly return distributions of BTC. An "ROI" should be measured in BTC.

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Also, the lack of response to anything of value here is another sign of a narcissistic sociopath. It's called the "silent treatment":

Just for shits and giggles, you should pull a JayJuanGee in the WO thread for your 10000th post.

Check again. I still have plenty of negative feedback for you. I’m sure that was just an oversight on your part and you didn’t mean to lie.

Who are you quoting when you type, “multi-millionaire” and what is your obsession with my personal finances?

The NastyShanty doesn’t have a basement.

You are still suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome?

 

LOL, don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.

Seriously though, IIRC it was OgNasty's red trust on you that removed my last doubt as to how full of shit he is.