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Hey everyone. I feel partially responsible for what feels like kind of an acrimonious exchange going on right now on this thread with the Rise team and ICOCountdown. I had no desire to precipitate such a thing at all. And I don't think anything positive will come from it.

I had envisioned a private dialogue between the two parties resulting perhaps in a new sense of understanding and a resolution of what I had perceived to be an unfortunate small cloud. Clearly, there were other factors I was not aware of at the time at work. Things are often more complicated than they appear on the surface.

At this point, I would recommend that we suspend the back and off and go back to just discussing the project itself.

Both sides have had their say. Neither is likely to convince the other. I believe we should move on. If people still have concerns or doubts they are free to communicate directly with the devs. But, again, I see no point in a protracted public back and forth. I had no desire to provoke such an outcome. If I can help to stop it here before it gains too much momentum, I would like to do that.

It is not your fault it is the company records that came out of it:

https://companycheck.co.uk/director/908104773/MR-CORMAC-STUART-LUCKING/companies

Do not feel bad, but it is more damning evidence. Check the data for yourself and you will see.
Lol your facts is so stupid and I will ignore you all time from
This moment. You can open company and dissolved it in the next day because dissolve means  "close down or dismiss (an assembly or official body)." This is not mean anything else. And when you want to reorganize your company you also need to dissolve ii if you want to join to a buyer company or dissolve it to separate this company on 2 small companies.
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@scifi.rem,

Thank you for the satisfying answer.

Best,

Jian
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@Alty,

Could you explain your relationship with CloakCoin, Zetacoin, and the accusations here: https://medium.com/@icocountdown/why-has-rise-been-delisted-from-icocountdown-com-2907e956d5a4. Or if you did already, a link would be much appreciated.


@ICOcountdown.com,

The fact that a company has been dissolved shows nothing significant as regards its founders' reliability. Do you have any other reason to get Rise out of your website, apart from the ones in the link I have just shared?


Best,

Jian
Alty just messaged me and is going to sleep as it is 2am in France. However, Gjeric did some freelance work for Zetacoin along with many other coins. That's how he earns money. Alty was the founder of Cloakcoin. When Justin and I started Rise we wanted to hire a project manager, someone who had the experience in the crypto world that we wanted. I had spoken to him a few times in 2014 so I reached out to him. He agreed to be PM of our project under a couple of conditions. His lead dev at Cloakcoin produced faulty code and left the project. Alty felt it was best to hand over the code to a new dev.

We brought him on as PM of Rise because we knew he had the exprience.

The thing people need to understand is that Rise is Rise and Acre is Acre. Acre is a sidechain future project in the RE industry and is not even our core project. We have been posting a TON of stuff about Rise. See our white paper here https://rise.vision/blog/post/rise-technology-white-paper

We have a comparison chart being done up by crz showing the difference between Rise and Lisk. If you can't wait for the chart you can read about it here: https://rise.vision/blog/post/how-is-rise-different-from-lisk

I'm really not sure what else to explain. Testnet is working. The affiliate program is working really well. We're being very transparent. Justin took some advice earlier from one of the community members and is going to be doing a conference soon. Please let me know if there are any questions and I will do my best to answer them. Thanks.

-rem
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@Alty,

Could you explain your relationship with CloakCoin, Zetacoin, and the accusations here: https://medium.com/@icocountdown/why-has-rise-been-delisted-from-icocountdown-com-2907e956d5a4. Or if you did already, a link would be much appreciated.


@ICOcountdown.com,

The fact that a company has been dissolved shows nothing significant as regards its founders' reliability. Do you have any other reason to get Rise out of your website, apart from the ones in the link I have just shared?


Best,

Jian
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Icocountdown has become quite embarassing.  Can we ignore the fud and concetrate on rise instead.
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Guy's ICOcountdown wanted us to pay him 4.5 btc to be on his site and we didn't accept his offer.

He's trying to ruin a good project here and using any means he can.
And ICOcountdown made the same demand at others coins, with the same strategy : at the begining, he post in the coin topic with enthousiastic positive arguments. After that, he ask for money at the coin team and if the team refuse, he delist the coin of his website and begin to post systematic bashing post.

ICOcountdown is a bandit.

You are not the only one saying this.

Where is the proof that ICO wanted 4.5 Btc?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14923880
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Guy's ICOcountdown wanted us to pay him 4.5 btc to be on his site and we didn't accept his offer.

He's trying to ruin a good project here and using any means he can.
And ICOcountdown made the same demand at others coins, with the same strategy : at the begining, he post in the coin topic with enthousiastic positive arguments. After that, he ask for money at the coin team and if the team refuse, he delist the coin of his website and begin to post systematic bashing post.

ICOcountdown is a bandit.

You are not the only one saying this.

Where is the proof that ICO wanted 4.5 Btc?
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How many shills do you own Alty? This is some hard work on your part. It won't translate to any sort of value and you are destroying your own project because of it, but you are doing a really good job keep it up Smiley

LOL I don't even know Alty you little dork. GTFO
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Hey everyone. I feel partially responsible for what feels like kind of an acrimonious exchange going on right now on this thread with the Rise team and ICOCountdown. I had no desire to precipitate such a thing at all. And I don't think anything positive will come from it.

I had envisioned a private dialogue between the two parties resulting perhaps in a new sense of understanding and a resolution of what I had perceived to be an unfortunate small cloud. Clearly, there were other factors I was not aware of at the time at work. Things are often more complicated than they appear on the surface.

At this point, I would recommend that we suspend the back and off and go back to just discussing the project itself.

Both sides have had their say. Neither is likely to convince the other. I believe we should move on. If people still have concerns or doubts they are free to communicate directly with the devs. But, again, I see no point in a protracted public back and forth. I had no desire to provoke such an outcome. If I can help to stop it here before it gains too much momentum, I would like to do that.

It is not your fault it is the company records that came out of it:

https://companycheck.co.uk/director/908104773/MR-CORMAC-STUART-LUCKING/companies

Do not feel bad, but it is more damning evidence. Check the data for yourself and you will see.
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Hey everyone. I feel partially responsible for what feels like kind of an acrimonious exchange going on right now on this thread with the Rise team and ICOCountdown. I had no desire to precipitate such a thing at all. And I don't think anything positive will come from it.

I had envisioned a private dialogue between the two parties resulting perhaps in a new sense of understanding and a resolution of what I had perceived to be an unfortunate small cloud. Clearly, there were other factors I was not aware of at the time at work. Things are often more complicated than they appear on the surface.

At this point, I would recommend that we suspend the back and forth and go back to just discussing the project itself.

Both sides have had their say. Neither is likely to convince the other. I believe we should move on. If people still have concerns or doubts they are free to communicate directly with the devs. But, again, I see no point in a protracted public back and forth. I had no desire to provoke such an outcome. If I can help to stop it here before it gains too much momentum, I would like to do that.
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Cloak Creator and Veritise - www.vcode.tech - See

Come off it I'm not interested in shilling.

Seriously...

We talked in the dev chat about hosting a google hangout.

When that happens, it will be live and I welcome you to participate and ask the team anything you like. 
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How many shills do you own Alty? This is some hard work on your part. It won't translate to any sort of value and you are destroying your own project because of it, but you are doing a really good job keep it up Smiley
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Guy's ICOcountdown wanted us to pay him 4.5 btc to be on his site and we didn't accept his offer.

He's trying to ruin a good project here and using any means he can.
And ICOcountdown made the same demand at others coins, with the same strategy : at the begining, he post in the coin topic with enthousiastic positive arguments. After that, he ask for money at the coin team and if the team refuse, he delist the coin of his website and begin to post systematic bashing post.

ICOcountdown is a bandit.

You are not the only one saying this.

Tell us about these companies why did they dissolve?

They were pubs, clubs, bars and restaurants that were sold off to individual owners or other companies.

How about we talk about the details over a public video call?

Why so you can trick me into a call recording and twist my words?
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Cloak Creator and Veritise - www.vcode.tech - See
Guy's ICOcountdown wanted us to pay him 4.5 btc to be on his site and we didn't accept his offer.

He's trying to ruin a good project here and using any means he can.
And ICOcountdown made the same demand at others coins, with the same strategy : at the begining, he post in the coin topic with enthousiastic positive arguments. After that, he ask for money at the coin team and if the team refuse, he delist the coin of his website and begin to post systematic bashing post.

ICOcountdown is a bandit.

You are not the only one saying this.

Tell us about these companies why did they dissolve?

They were pubs, clubs, bars and restaurants that were sold off to individual owners or other companies.

How about we talk about the details over a public video call?
hero member
Activity: 1008
Merit: 500
Guy's ICOcountdown wanted us to pay him 4.5 btc to be on his site and we didn't accept his offer.

He's trying to ruin a good project here and using any means he can.
And ICOcountdown made the same demand at others coins, with the same strategy : at the begining, he post in the coin topic with enthousiastic positive arguments. After that, he ask for money at the coin team and if the team refuse, he delist the coin of his website and begin to post systematic bashing post.

ICOcountdown is a bandit.

You are not the only one saying this.

Tell us about these companies why did they dissolve?
hero member
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Cloak Creator and Veritise - www.vcode.tech - See
Guy's ICOcountdown wanted us to pay him 4.5 btc to be on his site and we didn't accept his offer.

He's trying to ruin a good project here and using any means he can.
And ICOcountdown made the same demand at others coins, with the same strategy : at the begining, he post in the coin topic with enthousiastic positive arguments. After that, he ask for money at the coin team and if the team refuse, he delist the coin of his website and begin to post systematic bashing post.

ICOcountdown is a bandit.

You are not the only one saying this.
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Cloak Creator and Veritise - www.vcode.tech - See
Guy's ICOcountdown wanted us to pay him 4.5 btc to be on his site and we didn't accept his offer.

He's trying to ruin a good project here and using any means he can.

Rise team is totally transparent.  The lead dev Justin is entertaining the idea of a google hangout in which he'll be speaking at a crypto meetup.

As project manager of this coin I'll continue to uphold my duties in every way I can for the benefit of Rise.

To see what is real, this is our real time organisation platform where you can keep tabs on what is happening at all times development wise.

https://risevisionfoundation.atlassian.net/secure/Dashboard.jspa

Our chat is open, all of us can be contacted and are willing to talk with anyone.

I am waiting to hear your plan for the Real Estate Development

So far you have 4 failed businesses under your belt and 1 open coin that you ran away from

Arocorp Limited    Dissolved    Director    13/03/02    
Cornelius Taverns Limited    Dissolved    Company Secretary    09/01/03    
County Inns And Taverns Property Limited    Dissolved    Director    29/04/02    22/05/03
Savannah Inns Limited    Dissolved    Director    05/03/02    

https://companycheck.co.uk/director/908104773/MR-CORMAC-STUART-LUCKING/companies

Not sure if you checked the dates, I was 20 at the time and they became dissolved companies because they were sold on or changed hands over 14 years ago.

I really don't want to sound offensive but are you 12 years old by any chance?

I say that because you don't exactly sound like you have any business experience at all (outside of the website you threw up). If you did you would understand that dissolved companies are a regular occurrence.
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Guy's ICOcountdown wanted us to pay him 4.5 btc to be on his site and we didn't accept his offer.

He's trying to ruin a good project here and using any means he can.
And ICOcountdown made the same demand at others coins, with the same strategy : at the begining, he post in the coin topic with enthousiastic positive arguments. After that, he ask for money at the coin team and if the team refuse, he delist the coin of his website and begin to post systematic bashing post.

ICOcountdown is a bandit.
hero member
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Merit: 500
Guy's ICOcountdown wanted us to pay him 4.5 btc to be on his site and we didn't accept his offer.

He's trying to ruin a good project here and using any means he can.

Rise team is totally transparent.  The lead dev Justin is entertaining the idea of a google hangout in which he'll be speaking at a crypto meetup.

As project manager of this coin I'll continue to uphold my duties in every way I can for the benefit of Rise.

To see what is real, this is our real time organisation platform where you can keep tabs on what is happening at all times development wise.

https://risevisionfoundation.atlassian.net/secure/Dashboard.jspa

Our chat is open, all of us can be contacted and are willing to talk with anyone.

I am waiting to hear your plan for the Real Estate Development

So far you have 4 failed businesses under your belt and 1 open coin that you ran away from

Arocorp Limited    Dissolved    Director    13/03/02    
Cornelius Taverns Limited    Dissolved    Company Secretary    09/01/03    
County Inns And Taverns Property Limited    Dissolved    Director    29/04/02    22/05/03
Savannah Inns Limited    Dissolved    Director    05/03/02    

https://companycheck.co.uk/director/908104773/MR-CORMAC-STUART-LUCKING/companies
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