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Wow, what a sale on cryptopia. Someone sold over 50k for below 600!! Whats wrong?
legendary
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Goldseal, you are of course right. But together with the lack of good news I doubt the exchanges would cope with that 1million sale... Just my opinion.

Selling 1 mil for 1000 sat is a bit dumb. Trying to accumulate 1 mil coins would cost far more than 1000. At this point, all the trading below 3000 is pretty much fake or dust swapping.

IMHO he's just threatening to sell because he either wants to push the price down or he thinks it will help him put pressure on prypto/dws in some way. Possibly, the 20% price decline we had on cryptopia could be people factoring in that he may dump these into the exchange. However, that's a bit silly since you would get early warning if you see him move his coins.

BTW, we need to get a hold of rudy. His block explorer is showing an internal server error.

Speculating on what someone wants to do with their property and labeling them like so is not helping anyone. I have completely lost respect for you in that regard alone.

However I will encourage you to leave him/her/it to whatever they want to do with their own property. That is the beauty of this tech. It allows people to do what they want, when they want it, how they want to. Encouraging someone to put a decentralized currency on a centralized exchange is never the best idea and should be avoided whenever possible, no matter how convenient it is. Its still not worth taking someones choice away and labeling them "dumb". Furthermore i would encourage barbeq to make thier own thread in a more apropiate section of the forum and link to it here. It is a announcment thread for the community focused on CasinCoin after all.

Benjamin Franklin — 'Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.'

Are you stoned?

1. an exchange is a far safer way to trade in the absence of trusted escrow. there's  a big difference between using an exchange as a wallet and using it to sell something.
2. i don't care what he does with his own property
3. How does threatening to sell privately and posting messages accusing prypto/dws of bad management because a recent PR wasn't good enough for him, help anyone? How does he know if they are badly managed? Is he workign diretcly with them or posisbly employed by them? It doesn't sound like it. This kind of behavior is why you'll find that good community participants like GC or even Ajochems are willing to write you guys off and ignore these message boards for long periods of time while they go work on their projects quietly. You guys treat them poorly and the majority of you do nothing to contribute.
4. I did not call him dumb. I said: "Selling 1 mil for 1000 sat is a bit dumb." This is much different from "Barbeq is dumb." However, thanks for trying to stuff some words in my mouth.
5. Why would he need his own thread? What would that accomplish? Are you asking him to make a thread to organize selling his coins? If that's the case, do you feel him posting on this thread was inappropriate?

1) "Encouraging someone to put a decentralized currency on a centralized exchange is never the best idea and should be avoided whenever possible, no matter how convenient it is."

2)It does not come across as such.

3)Feedback helps far more then you seem to comprehend, clearly. Its how you handled it, that is my concern. Slapping a FUD label and crap on it is childish and not becoming of you. Although its clear to me now how dense you really are.

4) You clearly labeled his choice dumb. The mere fact that you are distorting all of these points into some kind of weird reality of yours is actually starting to disturb me. I'm now wondering why i'm even wasting my time replying.

5) Gawd!!! how on earth have you been here so long and still so thick. You do realise that we all used to trade crypto on google docs, blogs, bulletin boards and forums before there were even exchanges? Quite safely mind you! Its important that he makes his own thread and announces it here to keep this topic on point and to its purpose. A announcement thread which i am now currently trashing myself to make said point! It actually gains more exposure for both his cause and this project. why on earth is that a bad idea to you is baffling me.

Sorry Goldseal but i really don't wish to converse with you anymore. I feel like i'm in the twilight zone here. Anyone else wish to chime in?

You going to cry too? I can give you a tissue. I don't even want to waste the time it would take to respond to you. I think you've shown everyone here what's going on in your head and I'll say it's worth quoting so it's recorded in the event you try to rewrite or delete it.

Have a good weekend.

legendary
Activity: 1078
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Goldseal, you are of course right. But together with the lack of good news I doubt the exchanges would cope with that 1million sale... Just my opinion.

Selling 1 mil for 1000 sat is a bit dumb. Trying to accumulate 1 mil coins would cost far more than 1000. At this point, all the trading below 3000 is pretty much fake or dust swapping.

IMHO he's just threatening to sell because he either wants to push the price down or he thinks it will help him put pressure on prypto/dws in some way. Possibly, the 20% price decline we had on cryptopia could be people factoring in that he may dump these into the exchange. However, that's a bit silly since you would get early warning if you see him move his coins.

BTW, we need to get a hold of rudy. His block explorer is showing an internal server error.

Speculating on what someone wants to do with their property and labeling them like so is not helping anyone. I have completely lost respect for you in that regard alone.

However I will encourage you to leave him/her/it to whatever they want to do with their own property. That is the beauty of this tech. It allows people to do what they want, when they want it, how they want to. Encouraging someone to put a decentralized currency on a centralized exchange is never the best idea and should be avoided whenever possible, no matter how convenient it is. Its still not worth taking someones choice away and labeling them "dumb". Furthermore i would encourage barbeq to make thier own thread in a more apropiate section of the forum and link to it here. It is a announcment thread for the community focused on CasinCoin after all.

Benjamin Franklin — 'Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.'

Are you stoned?

1. an exchange is a far safer way to trade in the absence of trusted escrow. there's  a big difference between using an exchange as a wallet and using it to sell something.
2. i don't care what he does with his own property
3. How does threatening to sell privately and posting messages accusing prypto/dws of bad management because a recent PR wasn't good enough for him, help anyone? How does he know if they are badly managed? Is he workign diretcly with them or posisbly employed by them? It doesn't sound like it. This kind of behavior is why you'll find that good community participants like GC or even Ajochems are willing to write you guys off and ignore these message boards for long periods of time while they go work on their projects quietly. You guys treat them poorly and the majority of you do nothing to contribute.
4. I did not call him dumb. I said: "Selling 1 mil for 1000 sat is a bit dumb." This is much different from "Barbeq is dumb." However, thanks for trying to stuff some words in my mouth.
5. Why would he need his own thread? What would that accomplish? Are you asking him to make a thread to organize selling his coins? If that's the case, do you feel him posting on this thread was inappropriate?

1) "Encouraging someone to put a decentralized currency on a centralized exchange is never the best idea and should be avoided whenever possible, no matter how convenient it is."

2)It does not come across as such.

3)Feedback helps far more then you seem to comprehend, clearly. Its how you handled it, that is my concern. Slapping a FUD label and crap on it is childish and not becoming of you. Although its clear to me now how dense you really are.

4) You clearly labeled his choice dumb. The mere fact that you are distorting all of these points into some kind of weird reality of yours is actually starting to disturb me. I'm now wondering why i'm even wasting my time replying.

5) Gawd!!! how on earth have you been here so long and still so thick. You do realise that we all used to trade crypto on google docs, blogs, bulletin boards and forums before there were even exchanges? Quite safely mind you! Its important that he makes his own thread and announces it here to keep this topic on point and to its purpose. A announcement thread which i am now currently trashing myself to make said point! It actually gains more exposure for both his cause and this project. why on earth is that a bad idea to you is baffling me.

Sorry Goldseal but i really don't wish to converse with you anymore. I feel like i'm in the twilight zone here. Anyone else wish to chime in?
legendary
Activity: 1862
Merit: 1002
Goldseal, you are of course right. But together with the lack of good news I doubt the exchanges would cope with that 1million sale... Just my opinion.

Selling 1 mil for 1000 sat is a bit dumb. Trying to accumulate 1 mil coins would cost far more than 1000. At this point, all the trading below 3000 is pretty much fake or dust swapping.

IMHO he's just threatening to sell because he either wants to push the price down or he thinks it will help him put pressure on prypto/dws in some way. Possibly, the 20% price decline we had on cryptopia could be people factoring in that he may dump these into the exchange. However, that's a bit silly since you would get early warning if you see him move his coins.

BTW, we need to get a hold of rudy. His block explorer is showing an internal server error.

Speculating on what someone wants to do with their property and labeling them like so is not helping anyone. I have completely lost respect for you in that regard alone.

However I will encourage you to leave him/her/it to whatever they want to do with their own property. That is the beauty of this tech. It allows people to do what they want, when they want it, how they want to. Encouraging someone to put a decentralized currency on a centralized exchange is never the best idea and should be avoided whenever possible, no matter how convenient it is. Its still not worth taking someones choice away and labeling them "dumb". Furthermore i would encourage barbeq to make thier own thread in a more apropiate section of the forum and link to it here. It is a announcment thread for the community focused on CasinCoin after all.

Benjamin Franklin — 'Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.'

Are you stoned?

1. an exchange is a far safer way to trade in the absence of trusted escrow. there's  a big difference between using an exchange as a wallet and using it to sell something.
2. i don't care what he does with his own property
3. How does threatening to sell privately and posting messages accusing prypto/dws of bad management because a recent PR wasn't good enough for him, help anyone? How does he know if they are badly managed? Is he workign diretcly with them or posisbly employed by them? It doesn't sound like it. This kind of behavior is why you'll find that good community participants like GC or even Ajochems are willing to write you guys off and ignore these message boards for long periods of time while they go work on their projects quietly. You guys treat them poorly and the majority of you do nothing to contribute.
4. I did not call him dumb. I said: "Selling 1 mil for 1000 sat is a bit dumb." This is much different from "Barbeq is dumb." However, thanks for trying to stuff some words in my mouth.
5. Why would he need his own thread? What would that accomplish? Are you asking him to make a thread to organize selling his coins? If that's the case, do you feel him posting on this thread was inappropriate?
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1050
Goldseal, you are of course right. But together with the lack of good news I doubt the exchanges would cope with that 1million sale... Just my opinion.

Selling 1 mil for 1000 sat is a bit dumb. Trying to accumulate 1 mil coins would cost far more than 1000. At this point, all the trading below 3000 is pretty much fake or dust swapping.

IMHO he's just threatening to sell because he either wants to push the price down or he thinks it will help him put pressure on prypto/dws in some way. Possibly, the 20% price decline we had on cryptopia could be people factoring in that he may dump these into the exchange. However, that's a bit silly since you would get early warning if you see him move his coins.

BTW, we need to get a hold of rudy. His block explorer is showing an internal server error.

Speculating on what someone wants to do with their property and labeling them like so is not helping anyone. I have completely lost respect for you in that regard alone.

However I will encourage you to leave him/her/it to whatever they want to do with their own property. That is the beauty of this tech. It allows people to do what they want, when they want it, how they want to. Encouraging someone to put a decentralized currency on a centralized exchange is never the best idea and should be avoided whenever possible, no matter how convenient it is. Its still not worth taking someones choice away and labeling them "dumb". Furthermore i would encourage barbeq to make thier own thread in a more apropiate section of the forum and link to it here. It is a announcment thread for the community focused on CasinCoin after all.

Benjamin Franklin — 'Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.'
legendary
Activity: 1862
Merit: 1002
Goldseal, you are of course right. But together with the lack of good news I doubt the exchanges would cope with that 1million sale... Just my opinion.

Selling 1 mil for 1000 sat is a bit dumb. Trying to accumulate 1 mil coins would cost far more than 1000. At this point, all the trading below 3000 is pretty much fake or dust swapping.

IMHO he's just threatening to sell because he either wants to push the price down or he thinks it will help him put pressure on prypto/dws in some way. Possibly, the 20% price decline we had on cryptopia could be people factoring in that he may dump these into the exchange. However, that's a bit silly since you would get early warning if you see him move his coins.

BTW, we need to get a hold of rudy. His block explorer is showing an internal server error.
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This was the kind of press release I liked to see in the main press .... I do not know if it costs a lot of money these ads, but I like the impact of them.

https://themerkle.com/2017-bitcoin-casino-for-players-in-the-united-states/?utm_medium=push&utm_source=onesignal&utm_campaign=traffic%20boost&utm_content=extended%20%traffic%boost

maybe in future...
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Goldseal, you are of course right. But together with the lack of good news I doubt the exchanges would cope with that 1million sale... Just my opinion.
legendary
Activity: 1862
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Putting 1million coins into the exchanges and ask for 10btc will put a lot of pressure onto the csc exchange rate. Not sure if thats we need here... Doing a private deal could be a solution...

An exchange can absorb that. There are people that would buy it for that price.
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Putting 1million coins into the exchanges and ask for 10btc will put a lot of pressure onto the csc exchange rate. Not sure if thats we need here... Doing a private deal could be a solution...
legendary
Activity: 1862
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Barbeq... my offer is 5btc for 1mio csc. Just let me know. Thanks

He's probably not looking to sell them If he was motivated to sell them, he'd take them to an exchange like everyone else. This smells like he's offering them for sale in a manner that is least likeley to result in a successful sale in order to contribute to a spurious act of trolling prypto/DWS.


Putting 1m coins in an exchange is risky for the reasons well known.  And how is pointing out the challenges of Prypto/DWS "trolling". It is far safer to arrange a private sale for the whole lot.

Storing your coins in an exchange is risky. Putting them up for sale on an exchange for a short period is far less riskier than conducting private transactions with strangers. How were you planning to transfer 100k blocks of csc to a buyer? Nobody will send you a bitcoin and hope you will actually send them CSC. You would have to involve a third party that you both trust to mediate the transaction. Ask other people on this board if they think a private sale is safe than using an exchange.

As for trolling, maybe that's not the right description. Maybe spreading FUD is more accurate.



Suh
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Barbeq... my offer is 5btc for 1mio csc. Just let me know. Thanks

He's probably not looking to sell them If he was motivated to sell them, he'd take them to an exchange like everyone else. This smells like he's offering them for sale in a manner that is least likeley to result in a successful sale in order to contribute to a spurious act of trolling prypto/DWS.


Putting 1m coins in an exchange is risky for the reasons well known.  And how is pointing out the challenges of Prypto/DWS "trolling". It is far safer to arrange a private sale for the whole lot.

Would you be open to accepting offers on the coins or breaking up the qty at all?
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Barbeq... my offer is 5btc for 1mio csc. Just let me know. Thanks

He's probably not looking to sell them If he was motivated to sell them, he'd take them to an exchange like everyone else. This smells like he's offering them for sale in a manner that is least likeley to result in a successful sale in order to contribute to a spurious act of trolling prypto/DWS.


Putting 1m coins in an exchange is risky for the reasons well known.  And how is pointing out the challenges of Prypto/DWS "trolling". It is far safer to arrange a private sale for the whole lot.
legendary
Activity: 1862
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Barbeq... my offer is 5btc for 1mio csc. Just let me know. Thanks

He's probably not looking to sell them If he was motivated to sell them, he'd take them to an exchange like everyone else. This smells like he's offering them for sale in a manner that is least likeley to result in a successful sale in order to contribute to a spurious act of trolling prypto/DWS.
legendary
Activity: 1862
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The quickest path to selling those coins would be to list them on cryptopia. They would likely be sold within a few days to a week at the price you are looking for. Selling them privately to strangers will always be difficult because you'll need a trusted escrow etc. Utilizing an exchange is the recommended way to conduct a sale.
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Barbeq... my offer is 5btc for 1mio csc. Just let me know. Thanks
legendary
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I really am encouraging you to talk to someone at Prypto. I don't believe the powerpoints that are given to casino execs are for the public. You don't market to execs, you do business with known contacts, which is what i believe at least Prypto does. Again, powerpoints are not for the public eye, they are for execs.

Sure, I understand all that. In the IT solutions business, sales are done through personal relationships and building trust. Of course the documentation exchanged in such conversations is not the same as the publicised collateral.  However, a consistent and professional public marketing message is just as important as the individual sales discussions.  Premature announcements, press releases that are written like an advertisement with grammatical errors, websites with no proper company information, a company name that is passing off a major global trademark, these are all signs of lack of professionalism.  

Add to that frequent shifts in focus and abandoned projects (e.g. the affiliate programme) and we have the typical hallmarks of management who mean well and have good ideas, but lack focus and ability to commercialise a product,

You also have to wonder, if Prypto have been developing their payment solution for years, and still not one casino has signed up to so much as a trial, is the product right?  New products solve problems or satisfy needs (even needs that never existed before, like the iPhone). It would seem to me that there is a clear problem/need in the online gambling industry for an instant and immutable payment solution incorporating KYC, but Prypto do not seem to be active in this market, instead trying to target B&M casinos. Why? Have they not tried? Have they tried and failed? If a product that appears to offer a clear solution to a well known problem is not making inroads, then there must be something wrong with the proposition or with management.

  

Yes, i believe those are fair observations and opinions. So you would like to see around 2-5 thousand dollars spent on professional marketing material? Blogs, videos and media outlets talking about both companies. You think there would be a return on that capital in this niche for those two companies.
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Barbeqe, I could offer you 5btc for that 1 million csc. You might not believe it but I even agree with some of your points....

Bitcoinguru, since you are so convinced that the CSC price will shoot to the moon any time soon, 10 BTC will be a fair price.  They will be worth $1m once CSC hits $1.
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I really am encouraging you to talk to someone at Prypto. I don't believe the powerpoints that are given to casino execs are for the public. You don't market to execs, you do business with known contacts, which is what i believe at least Prypto does. Again, powerpoints are not for the public eye, they are for execs.

Sure, I understand all that. In the IT solutions business, sales are done through personal relationships and building trust. Of course the documentation exchanged in such conversations is not the same as the publicised collateral.  However, a consistent and professional public marketing message is just as important as the individual sales discussions.  Premature announcements, press releases that are written like an advertisement with grammatical errors, websites with no proper company information, a company name that is passing off a major global trademark, these are all signs of lack of professionalism.   

Add to that frequent shifts in focus and abandoned projects (e.g. the affiliate programme) and we have the typical hallmarks of management who mean well and have good ideas, but lack focus and ability to commercialise a product,

You also have to wonder, if Prypto have been developing their payment solution for years, and still not one casino has signed up to so much as a trial, is the product right?  New products solve problems or satisfy needs (even needs that never existed before, like the iPhone). It would seem to me that there is a clear problem/need in the online gambling industry for an instant and immutable payment solution incorporating KYC, but Prypto do not seem to be active in this market, instead trying to target B&M casinos. Why? Have they not tried? Have they tried and failed? If a product that appears to offer a clear solution to a well known problem is not making inroads, then there must be something wrong with the proposition or with management.

   
legendary
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Prypto and what is happening at the casinos with the closed loop system and the machines in bricks and mortar outlets don't need PR. I encourage you to go to your local sports bar and look at the machines within and tell me if you have ever seen a PR campaign for any of them! They sell themselves.

I encourage you to rethink this and try to then lay a more realistic expectation on what it is you expect from these companies. I encourage you to muster up the wisdom to know how this does and does not correlate to casinocoin. I believe some of you are trying to mash it all up together. Personally i don't believe its that binary!

What Prypto do with the brick & mortar casinos in the Bahamas is their business.  If it works, fine, but we have yet to see evidence of even one B&M casino signing up for the service.  Whether the machines in the B&M casinos sell themselves is irrelevant.  The product that requires selling is the Pryto closed loop solution, and Prypto have shown to be quire inept at marketing and selling.

What I "expect" (to use your words) from Prypto is a professional offering of a secure payment system with immutable transactions, which I could introduce to my online casino contacts.  Unfortunately, Prypto/DWS are not professionally run organisations and cannot even write proper copy or a press release.  I am sure they know their stuff when it comes to the technology behind it, but I can only advise them to hire professionals to deal with marketing and sales.
 

I really am encouraging you to talk to someone at Prypto. I don't believe the powerpoints that are given to casino execs are for the public. You don't market to execs, you do business with known contacts, which is what i believe at least Prypto does. Again, powerpoints are not for the public eye, they are for execs.
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