Topic: On security Nigeria died (Read 411 times)

A lot of us in different fora have talked about the rot and decadence that has enveloped our security apparatus, the system is almost at its breaking point, it seems as if there is no solution almost at the immediate.
The security forces even on the recent elections collude with criminals and thugs to rig the elections for a certain candidate or a political party, and the security forces are there to supervise some of these miscarriage of justice.  The electoral umpire has turned itself to a political party where is directly and obviously seem to be that they are favouring a political party or a candidate.
The big question is, who are those that will reformed the security architecture, is it does of them in power that have directly kept the system like this or can the system reject itself?

I still believe in new Nigeria some day, despite all those bad things we are going through in the country because many developed countries experienced such insecurity before, until both the citizens and the bad leaders come together to solved the issues that is making other people to travel to their country to enjoy good life over there. If you listen to what happened to kogi state election and IMO state election on Saturday you will know that people will soon stand up to end this vote buying, Ringing and insecurity in the nation.

Many people are going through a lot of things in this insecurity that will not take my village people to handle with their native power within a year insecurity will be a thing of the past, but some people in government offices are using it as a source of income by making it to be all over the country without considering the lives of the citizens..

What Op posted is true. We all live here and we know that security personnel in this country are not doing their job to protect citizens. For those asking for proof, haven't you seen police officers collecting bribes on a major road without doing what they are asked to do on the road?
If you have a case of a stolen car or anything, if you don't have money, forget about it because the billing these officials will bill you, nobody will tell you to forget about the case.
You can't count on them when you truly need them. Even though not all is corrupt, majority of them are.

Let's understand the fact that the problem of Nigeria is not one you can just conclude from a single point of view like pointing blames on the military, the politician, the institutions, or any other segment of our society. One thing you should understand is that this office her not held by robots or foreigners, they are occupied by the same Nigerians who are complaining and will still complain about this faulty system that they are very much a part of.

The policeman who harasses the youth on the road still goes back home and insults the legislators for not doing their jobs properly.

The same youth that shout and chant on social media for a change in the types of leaders we elect as presidents and governorship are the same set of people that would be used by these same politicians as togs to rig the election and the ones that are left will receive peanut and forget everything they ones said about the politician. And then after a year, we continue the old chorus of things being hard and that our leaders are bad.

If we are truthful to ourselves, we already know that we are our number one problem in all the sectors where we shout and claim that corruption has eaten deep into.

   Day after day, Nigeria's security is threatened because it keeps depreciating for one reason and another and there's nothing that can actually be done about it. The leaders on their part are not even trying because the funds used are not circulated rightly and the ones that are even directed for the security personnels are not judiciously dispensed. There are still leakages that needs to be fixed and worked on.
   The insecurity issues won't stop increasing and the solution would begin from our government genuinty in dispensing the allocated funds and for the bodies to use it rightly.Terrorist groups would continually capitalize on these leakages and won't stop posing threats to the lives of the people.Nigeria as a country is financially capable of affording sophisticated weapons we need to combat crime and injustice, all we need as a nation is right leadership. This is an issue of both Nigeria and the continent Africa at large.

The security of this great nation has been brought nothing to the extent that the cost inflation in the society use them as if they are nothing because they are been paid peanut is that they can be used when they are been called upon, sometimes I don't blame this security person for not taking their national assignment serious because someone can not give you outdated weapons to go and fight your enemy that is using a modern weapon, that's not fair when this fight against Boko haram was much active, I was opportune to discuss with one of my friend who has been in war in Maiduguri northern Nigeria, he told me that the kind of sophisticated weapons this Boko haram set are using, that Nigerian soldiers don't have anything near to it, he said that's why it looks as if we are not winning the war, he started narrating how our so-called govern the work with their high ranking officers to siphon the funds meant for the purchase of this weapons and sabotage them in return, which way Nigeria, which way Africa.

Exacts as e be na so you talk am, our security system now na shit, no be wattin citizens like us fit depend on because dem ready to kill citizens just to keep their reputation. Imaging waiting happen for 20th of October 2020 (10/20/20) when dem kill innocent citizens wey been dey do free and harmless protest to end SARS, no be say the citizen dem been dey use weapons oo, dem just send the military to shot our youth dem die just like that, and las las dem still try to cover up for their lie but, but we no go fit forget that incident. Because of that one I no go fit trust the security system again.

But you voted for these people.

In my state, if you go outside to many places, you will likely know who the next governor will be. If it is going to be tough between two different parties, you will also likely know. You will all know these from what people are saying.

Probably our states might differ. The first governor in my state was APC, the next was PDP while the PDP governor was unable to do second term. The third governor was PDP which was later removed after he lost the lawsuit that he did not win governor election. APC was the fourth governor while PDP was the fifth governor, then APC took over again and now APC took over again. It has always been competitive.

In states like Lagos, APC has been the winner always, but if you find out what is happening winninz you will know how strong APC in the state. What is happening in one state may be different from what is happening in the other states, bit not that we are practicing autocracy in Nigeria. APC has influence in Lagos. Yet, the incumbent president was unable to win in the state he was once a governor. Is Peter Obi people wanted? Or can we also say that it was rigged?

It is just a sign of confidence. You can even see a boxer that will have such confidence against his competitor and lose.

So who did you think that more people truly voted for in the last election? As long as who you support did not win, your answer may be bias.

Nigeria is not as bad as this.

Truly the success of every nation depends on the security architecture of that nation in particular. When the security forces are very much active and in compliance with the laws to discharge their duties accordingly, there is peace and progress because everything seems to work in tandem with the laws of the land but when there is compromise, the reverse is always the case.

It is obvious that the system is corrupt and messed up to the extent that the security forces can not be trusted and this has resulted in people taking laws into their hands. This act always triggers unending crisis in the society.

I have come to realise that one of the possibilities of these security lapses is the appointment of heads of security forces. When one is appointed as the head, every other subordinates would want to pay obeisances and dance to the tune of their head and their heads too would also want to play to the tune of their paymasters. This is the problem with the security architecture but if it happens that heads get to a position based on political settings through ranks without appointment and are independent on their own, I think most of the problems in the society would be curtailed. They will discharge their duties without fear or favour.

Na why pipo no dey call all these security people wen dem get wahala. Last week, person steal my generator. The next two days, after I don scratch everywhere gather money make I go buy new one because light dey very important. As I reach house, I see for the estate WhatsApp group say dem see generator for gutter wey person wan thief. I rush there, show them the receipt and everything wey dem need, and dem confirm say nah my gen. Normally, the security people beat the guy and collect money from me. Before I know, dem call police. I follow them go station, but dem talk say make I go pay for fuel money and statement money. In fact, e con be like say nah me thief my generator. Since that day, anything wey happen wey I no fit solve by myself, I just dey waka pass.

I understand everything you are saying, I also want you to understand that, Nigeria can never get better soon. because the security of this country itself is corrupte. security and bad government follow for Watin make this country dey like this. when you don't have a strong security, investor's will not come in to the country.

our politicans and the rich one's are the one's that benefits meanly from this country why the pool ones are intemiedated everyday. security and electricity is the mean things that make a nation to develop. which we are still battling to have in this country and it has make us to remean underdeveloped.

the security made to protect every citizen of this country, have been diverted to protect only the rich. look at what happened during the end SARS, instead to protect the life and property of every citizen of this country, then revised was the case. for this country to get better, may be, it will be in next generation.

This is the summary of the whole thing; thank you for lending your voice. Nigeria photocopied America's system of government which is federal system but have failed to follow it as it should be. In the US, each of the states are independent and manage their security and resources. But here in Nigeria, the states have no power or authority to do anything as the federal controls everything. Just ordinary road, states are not allowed to build without approval beccauae they are federal roads. Plenty things dey wrong with our system of government abeg.

You think say na because those things wey dey happen for other African countries no dey happen for Nigeria na him make you think say we dey do democracy. Wetin dem teach me say na democracy for school no be wetin we dey see for the country. The government supposed be government of the people by the people and for the people. Abeg no vex na wetin dey happen for the country be dat? When last our vote really matters abi no be dis country wey we dey see person tell us say na him turn and still collect the power without we not been able to do anything. This one wey you list all those president from different regions of the country wetin dat one dey tell you, it simply means we're doing turn by turn so na dat one be democracy or our politicians dey share the country as it fits dem.

Democracy no be turn by turn, e supposed be who the people vote in, e no matter if the person qualify or not but who the people love and they want make him rule them that's what democracy is about. If you go wash your skin from black to white no means say you go call yourself white (take Micheal Jackson as a case study). The back here be say we no dey actually practice democracy and the white be say the government dey say na democracy wey dey practice. How you go accept wetin no be true, abi you wan make we dey suffer like other African countries before we agree say no be democracy we dey practice, just because the government say we're doing something that isn't true no mean say we go accept am. In a Democratic government e no matter if na the same family dey rule but provided the people want dem and they're been voted back into power, na democracy be dat. Until our vote begin dey count we're deceiving ourselves thinking we're practicing democracy.

On paper the country is practicing democracy but in reality the government are just deceiving the innocent citizens.

Just like I said earlier, PDP and LP filed lawsuit against the incumbent president which is APC, but they failed. In governorship elections, there have been times without number that such cases have been won.

This is not about mainstream or whatever you call it. Who did you expect to win in all those states that I mentioned? You like it or not, Tinubu won that election. Let them continue their lawsuits, they will fail in the other ones. Only what you can mention is that you expected better from INEC, which is true. I NEC did not handle the election accurately, but that does not means it is PDP or LP that won. I am referring to this:


Mention how Nigeria is not a democratic nation?

Because they are voting? Or because they have three arms of government (the executive, legislative and the judiciary). Or because the governor of some states have been declared not to be winner of an election before and given to the right winner. CBN banned bitcoin, they said it is the Nigerian government that banned bitcoin. The government that were mute about it and allow Nigerians to trade cryptocurrencies on their own risks. Or because no matter the kind of protest in the country, the government still allow you to access the internet. Or is it because Nigerians like to move from one party to another. Give evidences. Do not worry, I am here with you.

There is no way to know who actually won because results were allocated to candidates by the politicians under the supervision of the security forces and INEC. You cannot feign ignorance of what I am saying. Evening till date, all the results have not been uploaded to the INEC sever yet winners have been announced, does that tell you anything? Which aspect of the electoral guild lines did INEC follow if you want to call that sham an election that produced a winner?

Well, I don't want to go this route because it is showing you were following mainstream media reporting of the election and never participated in the election. This analysis really sound like those projections aired in Arise TV where results were allocated to candidates based on tribe and religion. Let's leave it at that.

Shettima is from Bornu state and not Benue state Sir. He was the former governor of the state.



If you think Nigeria is practicing democracy, then you are not really on ground. I am from Rivers State and here election is by force... the strongest wins. You can do your campaigns and mobilisation but so long as you are not part of the powers that be, you are not going anywhere. This is not peculiar to Rivers State. Is that your definition of democracy?

This is not possibly to happened soon anytime now why because there are several people who are there with different motive and version of life, let say them they knows what they benefits or have you also forgotten that they are taking serious allocation for security in our country?
Yes the Federal Government has a serious allocation for security but those money are going strictly into personal pocket, and the killing including bokor haram ravaging and invading most of the Northern states and houses are all masterminded and calculated games.

What is going on in Borno State, where they said is the war zone of boko haram is place filled with Milk and Honey, They are mining illegal mineral resources that is supposed to change our country 10 x worth more than Dubai but, what do we do as Nation they used Boko haram to set up that region to scare people from knowing what is happening. Thus few of the Governments leaders focusing their efforts in Crude (Oil & Gas) while what is meant to change our dear Nation is wasting in the hands of the foreigners. Who dear cough over this issues?

Yes! No one's because they knew that they had set ups the boko haram to protects that area. Okay lets to talks about Kidnaping Nko? Those  who are kidnapping, where are they cashing out and which account are they sending those money why can't bank and security agencies track about those funds? Yes they all knew what they are doing.

Do we have to go more further about Godwin Emefele? Yes, He is a criminal in another cool way and between how much was restored from him in Hard currency? After making the innocent Nigerian pass through hell it happens that the new Naira note weren't in circulation any more but are being partially used. In facts as matter of fact, anyone whom I tried giving that new Notes now finds it very funny as they still have this mindsets is counterfeit instead they preferred using the old Note, Off course to me I am well secured with the old Notes that we were using before the new Notes.

How much did people made especially Godwin and co, who planned to trickily extort people with their old Naira note in name of expiring before the deadline, people were selling their had earn money for peanuts while those who couldn't spent it they ended up going to some Aboki's for exchange of food ( Let say when you buy's something of N500 you pays with 1k old notes even to an extent you will buy something of N300 they takes 700 just to make sure people spent their old Notes). 2 weeks interval it was said that old notes expiry dates has been extended to December what is happening now, are they still talking of the notes currently or what is the news on ground  now? Fuel drama, open swearing in seat his first speech was directly on removal of fuel subsidy ( why is this part so important to him?) Question to asked; Was there really fuel subsidy?

So sir, lemme just stops here as I don't to give myself a high blood pressure (HBP) why because we all allowed incompetents and incredible, uneducated people to rule us so we must remain in this bondage untill we chooses to change and renew our minds by putting credible people, those who knows what they are doing than just those who thought Presidential seat is an entitlement to them since they have sponsored Ex presidents so is their turn to rule as well.

Nigeria is doomed when it comes to security, The security network of Nigeria is built on several controversies, a country where individuals impose themselves on the citizens, What do you expect, What is playing out today is as a result of imposition, when people rig elections with the help of our poorly equipped and biased security after elections you will see total control of the security by the president, every month billions of naira is been paid to the state Governors as what the call security vote, we can not found any visible thing, the funds has been used for, what they do, is to buy more cars in other to increase their entourage, the underdevelopment and security challenges  Nigeria as a country is facing today is because of the inability of the government at the central to grant total  autonomy to the armed forces, I think the needful has to done, but this will be a collective effort.

Who was the winner? Peter Obi or Atiku?

These were my few observation during the election:
Tinubu is from Lagos state, but Peter Obi won in Lagos state
APC was controlling Kano at the time, but Atiku won
APC was controlling Katsina, but Atiku won
Peter Obi is Igbo, he won more than 90% in Igbo states
Tinubu is a Yoruba and dominates in Yoruba states, except Lagos that many other tribes are congested
Atiku won very well in the North, but the north is not only for Hausa and Fulani
Shettima (Tinubu vice president) is from Benue Borno and Tinubu won in Benue Borno

There was violence during general election, but it is not new, that has been how Nigeria general elections had always been. Both Obi and Atiku has taken Tinubu to Tribunal and Tinubu won. Let them go to the next level like court of appeal and supreme court. With what I am analysing about this, they can only try but they can not win Tinubu.


What is democracy:



Is there anything like family ruling in Nigeria? No.
In Nigeria, is there anything like election but only family winning like what happened in Gabon? No

Obasanjo the first executive president is a Yoruba (South West)
The second, Yar'adua is Fulani (North West)
The third, Jonathan is from, Bayelsa State (South South)
Buhari is a Fulani (North West)
Tinubu is a Yoruba (South West)

If you meant that it is like military is ruling, like when Twitter was disabled in Nigeria. There was a lot that happened during Buhari time. But I still see it like democracy. That can happen in democratic nation.

There were even democratic nations that took down their internet for some days or weeks during violence, but during EndSARS, there was nothing like that. Has Nigerian government taken down internet before? No.

But I can understand, Nigeria is not as democratic like the Wests. But we are far better than some other nations.

Na so we dun see am na but make you no think say e different for other parts of the world because this one na d normal thing for this life. The only problem na say our own system no dey work and instead of dem tdey do this behavior through backyard as e dey for other parts of the world, our own an say na every large dem dey do am because nothing anybody fit do dem for the country. I still dey talk am say we no dey any democracy for this country, we just dey lie to ourselves because these politicians still dey anytime wey dem like. Corruption dey everywhere for the country and the arm forces no different, e fit be say na dem corrupt pass self.


First thing first, are the law enforcement officers been paid well, I no think say dem dey pay dem well and when you reason wetin this people dey pass through and still gets owed salary, if na yourself you supposed vex you and that's why the law enforcement officers pull their anger on normal civilians because dem dun already dey vex due to the poor treatments to them from the government. If to say this government dey take care of this security officers maybe dem no for dey mumu as dem dey mumu. And na why any opportunity wey dem see to take make money dem dey take am like during elections.

Nigeria don reach condition wey, the only thing wey we fit talk na, till God put hand inside our matter or better still "until death do us part". Because living in Nigeria is like a time ticking bomb. And you're just meant to enjoy the moment you're in and expect the worse of the day. Unfortunately, no be say e sweet to say, but na the koko reality be that. Ayyah!

The security of a country is measured by plenty things which starts from the strength of the Economy, respect to rule of law, justice in the judicial system up to the security architecture of the states, the intelligence response team/force, the level of government's response to to violence and crimes, access to healthcare and basic education amongst others.

Now make we put our country on a scale of 100%, I doubt if our country fit boast of 50% of any of those above-mentioned measuring parameters. That's where the issues lies.

Make we see how porous out borders be, how weak our internal security be and how hardworking but incapacitated our troops be. It only takes God's intervention or "till death do us part" to right the wrong ss a giant of Africa.

In the end, I go just advise each and everyone of us to stay safe out there and remain steadfast to our faith. Make we continue to protect ourselves and our community and make no body siddon look.