Topic: On the importance for nazis, commies and all extremists to stop fighting (Read 503 times)
April 09, 2019, 02:46:03 AM
Dumb statement.
I close the thread cause I can't just let you roam saying bullshit like this and trying to discuss with you is useless. You're not only stupid but also extremely agressive and your lack of logic is horrible.
You don't care about facts, you just spend your time insulting and spitting whatever nonsense you wish. Someone dumb enough to say that an inheritance tax of 20% is "abrogation of inheritance right" shouldn't be allowed to vote.
April 04, 2019, 06:54:22 PM
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Don't bother engaging with him, he can't even keep consistent with his own ideologies and he is just too woke for the rest of us mere mortals to even understand. In his mind Communism is flat, Russia can't melt steel beams, and China is ruled by Capitalist gay frogs.
Don't bother engaging with him, he can't even keep consistent with his own ideologies and he is just too woke for the rest of us mere mortals to even understand. In his mind Communism is flat, Russia can't melt steel beams, and China is ruled by Capitalist gay frogs.
I have friends in communist countries, but they are more practical and just consider
"Government" as a necessary evil, yes, as communist. They are NOT ideologues.
Those tend to exist in countries not yet turned into Evil Empires.
April 04, 2019, 05:16:59 PM
Well I think this thread is a perfect proof.
I was trying to make peace between commies and nazis. I even sent apologies and peace messages in PM. The result is just another agression without any legitimacy from the nazi.
Thanks TECSHARE for showing that extreme right is just too stupid to take an opportunity when they see it.
The most amazing thing is that you don't even seem to understand what you're saying but well...
It seems the only possibility will be to kill each other while letting the bankers rule. As you're clearly rejecting any peace offer and insulting me as soon as you have the chance.
Cheers.
I was trying to make peace between commies and nazis. I even sent apologies and peace messages in PM. The result is just another agression without any legitimacy from the nazi.
Thanks TECSHARE for showing that extreme right is just too stupid to take an opportunity when they see it.
The most amazing thing is that you don't even seem to understand what you're saying but well...
It seems the only possibility will be to kill each other while letting the bankers rule. As you're clearly rejecting any peace offer and insulting me as soon as you have the chance.
Cheers.
world is asymetric, nazis hated communists because nazis wanted to controll the money, and not have communists controll it.
Communism is the authority allowing you to profit. Capitalism is you having profits from your own authority.
Don't bother engaging with him, he can't even keep consistent with his own ideologies and he is just too woke for the rest of us mere mortals to even understand. In his mind Communism is flat, Russia can't melt steel beams, and China is ruled by Capitalist gay frogs.
April 04, 2019, 04:41:46 PM
Well I think this thread is a perfect proof.
I was trying to make peace between commies and nazis. I even sent apologies and peace messages in PM. The result is just another agression without any legitimacy from the nazi.
Thanks TECSHARE for showing that extreme right is just too stupid to take an opportunity when they see it.
The most amazing thing is that you don't even seem to understand what you're saying but well...
It seems the only possibility will be to kill each other while letting the bankers rule. As you're clearly rejecting any peace offer and insulting me as soon as you have the chance.
Cheers.
I was trying to make peace between commies and nazis. I even sent apologies and peace messages in PM. The result is just another agression without any legitimacy from the nazi.
Thanks TECSHARE for showing that extreme right is just too stupid to take an opportunity when they see it.
The most amazing thing is that you don't even seem to understand what you're saying but well...
It seems the only possibility will be to kill each other while letting the bankers rule. As you're clearly rejecting any peace offer and insulting me as soon as you have the chance.
Cheers.
world is asymetric, nazis hated communists because nazis wanted to controll the money, and not have communists controll it.
Communism is the authority allowing you to profit. Capitalism is you having profits from your own authority.
April 04, 2019, 04:31:16 PM
Well I think this thread is a perfect proof.
I was trying to make peace between commies and nazis. I even sent apologies and peace messages in PM. The result is just another agression without any legitimacy from the nazi.
Thanks TECSHARE for showing that extreme right is just too stupid to take an opportunity when they see it.
The most amazing thing is that you don't even seem to understand what you're saying but well...
It seems the only possibility will be to kill each other while letting the bankers rule. As you're clearly rejecting any peace offer and insulting me as soon as you have the chance.
Cheers.
I was trying to make peace between commies and nazis. I even sent apologies and peace messages in PM. The result is just another agression without any legitimacy from the nazi.
Thanks TECSHARE for showing that extreme right is just too stupid to take an opportunity when they see it.
The most amazing thing is that you don't even seem to understand what you're saying but well...
It seems the only possibility will be to kill each other while letting the bankers rule. As you're clearly rejecting any peace offer and insulting me as soon as you have the chance.
Cheers.
world is asymetric, nazis hated communists because nazis wanted to controll the money, and not have communists controll it.
April 04, 2019, 07:18:21 AM
Well I think this thread is a perfect proof.
I was trying to make peace between commies and nazis. I even sent apologies and peace messages in PM. The result is just another agression without any legitimacy from the nazi.
Thanks TECSHARE for showing that extreme right is just too stupid to take an opportunity when they see it.
The most amazing thing is that you don't even seem to understand what you're saying but well...
It seems the only possibility will be to kill each other while letting the bankers rule. As you're clearly rejecting any peace offer and insulting me as soon as you have the chance.
Cheers.
I was trying to make peace between commies and nazis. I even sent apologies and peace messages in PM. The result is just another agression without any legitimacy from the nazi.
Thanks TECSHARE for showing that extreme right is just too stupid to take an opportunity when they see it.
The most amazing thing is that you don't even seem to understand what you're saying but well...
It seems the only possibility will be to kill each other while letting the bankers rule. As you're clearly rejecting any peace offer and insulting me as soon as you have the chance.
Cheers.
What fucking opportunity? The opportunity to be fake friends with you so you can get me to turn a blind eye to the ideology responsible for hundreds of millions dead over the past century? Love how since you are the Communist I must automatically be the Nazi and extreme right, but you go ahead and tell me some more about not having legitimacy why don't you. I don't need your "peace offer", and until you are willing to have a debate based on logic instead of your feelings you are a danger to the world spreading your ideological cancer. You see you don't want peace, you want submission to your ideology as the price of this "peace". That is never going to happen. I don't give a fuck about your friendship, you are spreading dangerous ideologies and people need to see the total absence of logic in them before it is too late. Conflict doesn't bother me, mindless Commies spreading their aborted thought process do. You run away from the actual debate now telling yourself you have the moral high ground, because that is all you are capable of.
April 04, 2019, 02:35:23 AM
Well I think this thread is a perfect proof.
I was trying to make peace between commies and nazis. I even sent apologies and peace messages in PM. The result is just another agression without any legitimacy from the nazi.
Thanks TECSHARE for showing that extreme right is just too stupid to take an opportunity when they see it.
The most amazing thing is that you don't even seem to understand what you're saying but well...
It seems the only possibility will be to kill each other while letting the bankers rule. As you're clearly rejecting any peace offer and insulting me as soon as you have the chance.
Cheers.
I was trying to make peace between commies and nazis. I even sent apologies and peace messages in PM. The result is just another agression without any legitimacy from the nazi.
Thanks TECSHARE for showing that extreme right is just too stupid to take an opportunity when they see it.
The most amazing thing is that you don't even seem to understand what you're saying but well...
It seems the only possibility will be to kill each other while letting the bankers rule. As you're clearly rejecting any peace offer and insulting me as soon as you have the chance.
Cheers.
April 03, 2019, 09:02:43 PM
so nazis commies and all extremists should stop fighting so capitalists can install a corrupt capitalist system over their heads and scam as many of them as possible as money earning cattle?
you dont understand why nazis commis and extremists fight in the first place
...because they want nazis cattle, commis cattle, and extremist cattle for the big cattle fight?you dont understand why nazis commis and extremists fight in the first place
well nazis commis and extremists are all capitalists. the question is which capitalists are most successful.
you want to know which capitalists create most general wealth and most sustainabyl and which concentrate wealth only on themselves?
look at europes wealthmap today, the commies, the monarchiests, the extremists and the nationalists are all poor. and the nazi capitalists are the richest.
April 03, 2019, 07:27:01 PM
so nazis commies and all extremists should stop fighting so capitalists can install a corrupt capitalist system over their heads and scam as many of them as possible as money earning cattle?
you dont understand why nazis commis and extremists fight in the first place
...because they want nazis cattle, commis cattle, and extremist cattle for the big cattle fight? you dont understand why nazis commis and extremists fight in the first place
April 03, 2019, 06:00:47 PM
so nazis commies and all extremists should stop fighting so capitalists can install a corrupt capitalist system over their heads and scam as many of them as possible as money earning cattle?
you dont understand why nazis commis and extremists fight in the first place
you dont understand why nazis commis and extremists fight in the first place
April 03, 2019, 02:44:11 PM
Nice straw man. I never claimed those two things were the same. It is however a fact that the inheritance tax strips following generations of inheritance, no matter how full or how partial. Still waiting for you to argue against any of the other 10 planks...
First I've addressed all 10 planks here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/did-the-communists-managed-to-enforce-their-policies-worldwide-5125222
And already told you that. Not my fault if you don't read.
Second, your argument was NOT that inheritance tax partially strips following generations of inheritance. Otherwise I would have agreed with you.
Your point was that this plank was right, this plank being "Abolition of all rights of inheritance.". ALL RIGHTS.
ALL RIGHTS
You admitted yourself that inheritance tax is different from total taxation, that it strips only partially the family inheritance. Hence the situation is different from an abolition of ALL rights.
You say that
no matter how full or how partial.
But you're the one claiming all right of inheritance have been abolished.Be consistent. Or be quite.
And by the way, your argument of "the family farm being lost after generations" is completely stupid. 99% of the time the family house or family farm or whatever would have to be divided between 3 children which means the only way to keep it in the family would be that 1 child buy back 66% of the house. Otherwise they'll have to sell it. So he should be able to afford the 20% tax...
Houses and farms were passed from generation to generation before because only the eldest son inherited them. This is no longer the case. Sorry, we're no longer in the 19th century.
Sorry, I am not submitting to your divisive selective removal of criticisms of your ideology from a thread directly addressing it. Either post it here or don't, but I am not participating in your self serving removal of topics from this thread.
No, my argument was:
Also if you actually take the time to look over The 10 Planks of Communism I think you will have to admit the world has largely adopted these policies, even if they have a different name for it. Additionally China is arguably the most important economy in the world, and they most certainly have goals for global Communism, and the resources and potential to achieve it. If you were to take a hard look at all of these facts I think you may agree.
Largely =/= completely. You are modifying my premise to more exclusive language and then demanding I defend the premise YOU created. This is a logical fallacy and not a refutation of my argument, it is a refutation of your argument. Also the concept that this no longer happens because not many are farmers any more is retarded because it applies equally to ANY large functioning enterprise left to ones children, the farm was simply an example.
Communism IS globalist in nature, and globalist Communist policies ARE in fact in the majority regardless of your fallacious denial of this fact. You are a tool for globalists and your own arrogance keeps you in this subservient position as a disposable tool for the people you claim you hate.
April 03, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Okay, you are double dog ugly?
Inheritance tax is a pretty bad idea for numerous reasons. From the point of view of the state (your best buddy right?) in the case of a business asset where the family cannot possibly pay the estate tax bill (double taxation) the state loses yearly taxation income from a productive business entity as its operations are thrown into chaos.
So that's stupid.
Inheritance tax is a pretty bad idea for numerous reasons. From the point of view of the state (your best buddy right?) in the case of a business asset where the family cannot possibly pay the estate tax bill (double taxation) the state loses yearly taxation income from a productive business entity as its operations are thrown into chaos.
So that's stupid.
What's the link between inheritance taxation being stupid (which I strongly, VERY strongly, disagree with) and inheritance taxation not being abolition of inheritance taxation?
TECSHARE is the one trying to make a point saying the 10 planks are truly enforced everywhere. I was simply demonstrating he was wrong. That's all.
April 03, 2019, 08:30:57 AM
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Are those 2 situations identical:
A father passes away and his 1M$ house is inheritated by his 3 children
1/ The state comes in and take the house as inheritance is abolished. The children have nothing.
2/ The state says "hey sorry for your loss you can keep the house of course but you owe the state 200k$ as inheritance taxation, you got about a year or 6 months to pay it". The children either pay those 200k$ and keep the house or sell the house and keep the 800k$
Are those 2 situations identical? Yes or no question.
You can add some personnal attacks as you seem to love them. You already said that I was a fat lazy stupid dumb man without any logic or knowledge in laws, economics, psychology or history. Might add that I am ugly too, you haven't said that one yet.
Are those 2 situations identical:
A father passes away and his 1M$ house is inheritated by his 3 children
1/ The state comes in and take the house as inheritance is abolished. The children have nothing.
2/ The state says "hey sorry for your loss you can keep the house of course but you owe the state 200k$ as inheritance taxation, you got about a year or 6 months to pay it". The children either pay those 200k$ and keep the house or sell the house and keep the 800k$
Are those 2 situations identical? Yes or no question.
You can add some personnal attacks as you seem to love them. You already said that I was a fat lazy stupid dumb man without any logic or knowledge in laws, economics, psychology or history. Might add that I am ugly too, you haven't said that one yet.
Okay, you are double dog ugly?
Inheritance tax is a pretty bad idea for numerous reasons. From the point of view of the state (your best buddy right?) in the case of a business asset where the family cannot possibly pay the estate tax bill (double taxation) the state loses yearly taxation income from a productive business entity as its operations are thrown into chaos.
So that's stupid.
April 03, 2019, 02:24:25 AM
Nice straw man. I never claimed those two things were the same. It is however a fact that the inheritance tax strips following generations of inheritance, no matter how full or how partial. Still waiting for you to argue against any of the other 10 planks...
First I've addressed all 10 planks here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/did-the-communists-managed-to-enforce-their-policies-worldwide-5125222
And already told you that. Not my fault if you don't read.
Second, your argument was NOT that inheritance tax partially strips following generations of inheritance. Otherwise I would have agreed with you.
Your point was that this plank was right, this plank being "Abolition of all rights of inheritance.". ALL RIGHTS.
ALL RIGHTS
You admitted yourself that inheritance tax is different from total taxation, that it strips only partially the family inheritance. Hence the situation is different from an abolition of ALL rights.
You say that
no matter how full or how partial.
But you're the one claiming all right of inheritance have been abolished.Be consistent. Or be quite.
And by the way, your argument of "the family farm being lost after generations" is completely stupid. 99% of the time the family house or family farm or whatever would have to be divided between 3 children which means the only way to keep it in the family would be that 1 child buy back 66% of the house. Otherwise they'll have to sell it. So he should be able to afford the 20% tax...
Houses and farms were passed from generation to generation before because only the eldest son inherited them. This is no longer the case. Sorry, we're no longer in the 19th century.
April 02, 2019, 11:00:39 AM
There is no logical or logistical difference between your two arguments, only semantics.
AHAHAHAHAHAH oh man you're so much in bad faith xD
Nooooooooo there is no difference between a situation where they get 800k$ and a situation where they have nothing.
You're simply denying reality. Let's end this. If you can't admit that taxing 20% of the inheritance value is DIFFERENT from taking the whole inheritance there is nothing to debate.
Nice straw man. I never claimed those two things were the same. It is however a fact that the inheritance tax strips following generations of inheritance, no matter how full or how partial. Still waiting for you to argue against any of the other 10 planks...
April 02, 2019, 09:57:11 AM
There is no logical or logistical difference between your two arguments, only semantics.
AHAHAHAHAHAH oh man you're so much in bad faith xD
Nooooooooo there is no difference between a situation where they get 800k$ and a situation where they have nothing.
You're simply denying reality. Let's end this. If you can't admit that taxing 20% of the inheritance value is DIFFERENT from taking the whole inheritance there is nothing to debate.
March 29, 2019, 04:10:26 PM
You just see what you want to see, and no one can change that but you. As long as you are this intellectually dishonest and lazy I am going to treat you as the intellectual poser bottom feeder you are. I don't care what you did in another thread, it is very much on topic and I have no desire to participate in a carefully curated thread that just so happens to segregate critique of your preferred ideology.
If the state does not use force of law to take inheritance, then the inheritance tax is not taking from inheritance, thus taking inheritance? You see your gap in logic here? Of course not, you only see your preferred reality. Fuck causality and economics, I GOTS TO HAS MUH COMMUNISM!
If the state does not use force of law to take inheritance, then the inheritance tax is not taking from inheritance, thus taking inheritance? You see your gap in logic here? Of course not, you only see your preferred reality. Fuck causality and economics, I GOTS TO HAS MUH COMMUNISM!
Oh, look, more personnal attacks.
Funny how the deeper we go, the more personnal attacks and yelling at semantics you do.
Never seen any scientist or honest person yelling for semantics. That's the base of a debate: define what you're discussing.
Also got a yes or no question for you.
Are those 2 situations identical:
A father passes away and his 1M$ house is inheritated by his 3 children
1/ The state comes in and take the house as inheritance is abolished. The children have nothing.
2/ The state says "hey sorry for your loss you can keep the house of course but you owe the state 200k$ as inheritance taxation, you got about a year or 6 months to pay it". The children either pay those 200k$ and keep the house or sell the house and keep the 800k$
Are those 2 situations identical? Yes or no question.
You can add some personnal attacks as you seem to love them. You already said that I was a fat lazy stupid dumb man without any logic or knowledge in laws, economics, psychology or history. Might add that I am ugly too, you haven't said that one yet.
Lol, the deeper we go. The only thing we are going deeper is into your horse shit.
There is no requirement for the situations to be identical for them to lose the house. Your implication that these things need to be equal for this to be a removal of inheritance is asinine and simply restating your earlier premise just from another direction. There is no logical or logistical difference between your two arguments, only semantics. The result is the same, the children do not inherit the land of their ancestors. This is the most common result.
In the end they will usually lose the house. Furthermore this disproportionately strips the inheritance of the LESS wealthy of the class who would inherit, further creating even more of a rift between the haves and the have-nots. In the end another business is destroyed and centralized into corporate profits. Still waiting for you to touch on any of the other planks too, and again I don't give a shit about your other thread so don't bother.
...Oh, and you're ugly.
March 29, 2019, 04:29:57 AM
You just see what you want to see, and no one can change that but you. As long as you are this intellectually dishonest and lazy I am going to treat you as the intellectual poser bottom feeder you are. I don't care what you did in another thread, it is very much on topic and I have no desire to participate in a carefully curated thread that just so happens to segregate critique of your preferred ideology.
If the state does not use force of law to take inheritance, then the inheritance tax is not taking from inheritance, thus taking inheritance? You see your gap in logic here? Of course not, you only see your preferred reality. Fuck causality and economics, I GOTS TO HAS MUH COMMUNISM!
If the state does not use force of law to take inheritance, then the inheritance tax is not taking from inheritance, thus taking inheritance? You see your gap in logic here? Of course not, you only see your preferred reality. Fuck causality and economics, I GOTS TO HAS MUH COMMUNISM!
Oh, look, more personnal attacks.
Funny how the deeper we go, the more personnal attacks and yelling at semantics you do.
Never seen any scientist or honest person yelling for semantics. That's the base of a debate: define what you're discussing.
Also got a yes or no question for you.
Are those 2 situations identical:
A father passes away and his 1M$ house is inheritated by his 3 children
1/ The state comes in and take the house as inheritance is abolished. The children have nothing.
2/ The state says "hey sorry for your loss you can keep the house of course but you owe the state 200k$ as inheritance taxation, you got about a year or 6 months to pay it". The children either pay those 200k$ and keep the house or sell the house and keep the 800k$
Are those 2 situations identical? Yes or no question.
You can add some personnal attacks as you seem to love them. You already said that I was a fat lazy stupid dumb man without any logic or knowledge in laws, economics, psychology or history. Might add that I am ugly too, you haven't said that one yet.
March 28, 2019, 12:22:01 PM
I know you don't read my sources for a fact. Do you know how I know this (other than your shockingly obvious ignorance on all these subjects)? Because any time I post something your RESPOND INSTANTLY, and unless you are reading at a rate of 3 pages a second, you aren't reading the sources I provide. Also I have seen you claim to have read things here before, but then when pressed you demonstrate complete and undeniable ignorance of the subject matter. Whatever small portion you do bother to attempt to read you then skim over, never really paying attention or thinking critically about it, but only looking for points you can most easily argue. So not only are you ignorant, you are also a liar.
If your brain was a muscle you had to work out to stay in shape, you would be a huge tub of lard with Cheetos stuck in his fat rolls drinking from a 2 liter of Mountain Dew. This is just a joke to you. I have literally spent years of effort trying to learn the ins and outs of Communism and related topics which I personally consider very important, and you roll up with your lazy ass disingenuous approach, you might as well spit in my face. Your ignorant self assured lackadaisical attitude is an insult, and if you want to treat this like a game, I might as well make a game out of you because you waste my time.
So here there is litteraly nothing but personnal attacks. And sorry but reading your shit isn't long considering how short it is. Dude reading your little site takes what? 10 minutes? 30 tops if you're slow?If your brain was a muscle you had to work out to stay in shape, you would be a huge tub of lard with Cheetos stuck in his fat rolls drinking from a 2 liter of Mountain Dew. This is just a joke to you. I have literally spent years of effort trying to learn the ins and outs of Communism and related topics which I personally consider very important, and you roll up with your lazy ass disingenuous approach, you might as well spit in my face. Your ignorant self assured lackadaisical attitude is an insult, and if you want to treat this like a game, I might as well make a game out of you because you waste my time.
That said, again you only addressed ONE of the 10 planks listed on that page, I have a feeling you only looked them over until you could find something you felt you could make a point on then quickly ended any semblance of a thought process. I would love to see you try to argue the other planks.
I addressed one of the ten because that's what we call an example, and I've addressed ALL THE TEN here in a separate thread cause that was borderline off topic. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/did-the-communists-managed-to-enforce-their-policies-worldwide-5125222
One simple question. Is or is not a fact that the state uses the force of law to take inheritance? I didn't ask you how much. This is a yes or no question. I patiently await your semantic gymnastics fat man.
I guess the personnal attack is all what you have now?Answer is no. State doesn't use the force of law to take inheritance. Easy question.
You just see what you want to see, and no one can change that but you. As long as you are this intellectually dishonest and lazy I am going to treat you as the intellectual poser bottom feeder you are. I don't care what you did in another thread, it is very much on topic and I have no desire to participate in a carefully curated thread that just so happens to segregate critique of your preferred ideology.
If the state does not use force of law to take inheritance, then the inheritance tax is not taking from inheritance, thus taking inheritance? You see your gap in logic here? Of course not, you only see your preferred reality. Fuck causality and economics, I GOTS TO HAS MUH COMMUNISM!
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