Topic: On the importance for nazis, commies and all extremists to stop fighting - page 3. (Read 503 times)

There is both a misunderstanding and a conspiracy, but not a theory, a fact. You seem to think that the corrupt Capitalists and the corrupt Communists are different factions, they are not. They are literally the same people and groups. It is a big puppet show. It is controlled opposition and they have a flavor of shit sandwich for each of us. Western Capitalist bankers LITERALLY CREATED COMMUNISM. They planned it, they engineered it, they funded it, they fostered it, they created it in every sense of the word. It is nothing more than red vs blue, us vs them, republican vs democrat on a global scale.

This is straight out of the Hegelian Dialectic. THESIS - ANTITHESIS = SYNTHESIS also known as PROBLEM - REACTION = SOLUTION

In this case during world war 1 and 2, it was Communism - Nazism = Globalism

They are creating the extremes on both sides so they can pick through the corpses and accumulate control and power by systematically stripping us all of rights, our lives, and our property. We are talking about the same people, you just don't realize it yet. Also if you actually take the time to look over The 10 Planks of Communism I think you will have to admit the world has largely adopted these policies, even if they have a different name for it. Additionally China is arguably the most important economy in the world, and they most certainly have goals for global Communism, and the resources and potential to achieve it. If you were to take a hard look at all of these facts I think you may agree.

In all revolutions. The side doesn't matter.

What you're talking about is the transformation of a revolutionnary state into a dictatorship. One of the leader of the revolution, whatever the revolution, will seize the power in the hand and the country will go from revolutionnary state to absolute rule of this person and his group.

It has been the case with French revolution of 1789, with Hitler, with Staline, Iran...

Revolution tends to lead to dictatorship.

This is a very good point that I don't think the little kiddies waving Communist flags and playing revolutionary understand. Historically in leftist revolutions, the first thing they do after taking power is to kill all the revolutionaries that got them there. Don't forget when they start building that pile of bodies, the "revolutionaries" will form its foundation.

There seems to be a major misunderstanding or a mind blowing conspiracy theory here.

You seem to believe that communists, or at least let's say socialists have the power?


Because in the last 50 years France has seen nothing but more and more globalist policies.

So both extreme right and extreme left are more and more angry as our country gets stolen from us by banks and big corporations.

Knowing our history, it won't go better.

My friend visited Paris 3 times in different years and every time something went wrong because he faced different protests. France has always been one of the most leftist countries in EU. It seems to be a long French tradition to come out to the streets and scream different bullshit. Now it is pretty clear that you faced a political crisis.
Your current government is obviously bad but it is definetely a bad idea to support the opposite faction that would like to see you dead / in jail in case they get power in their hands. That's how it often happens after revolutions.

While your finger is on the crux of the issue, the division of the populace (divide and conquer), I still think you have not looked critically enough at the ideologies you espouse to realize many of the problems you list here are a direct result of these ideologies. This whole concept of the "rise of the right" is really just a reaction to the excesses of the left. Right wing extremists were well into the minority pretty much world wide until the left shifted The Overton Window so far to the left that formerly classic liberals are suddenly lumped in with the "far right". This right wing populist movement WAS CREATED by the excesses of the left. Now that people are finally standing their ground, the left wail and gnash their teeth over what they see as a right wing takeover, when they are simply attempting to correct an obviously failing course.

A good analogy I think most people here would understand.... think about the value of Bitcoin. When the exchange rate goes up is Bitcoin really raising in value? No, what is actually happening is that trust in the classic banking system and fiat money is failing, as a result people are willing to pay more dollars for the same amount of Bitcoin. Bitcoin in this case is a store of value mush as gold is, and as the currencies inflate and lose buying power, Bitcoin and gold maintain the buying power it had. This inversion of logic, inverting and conflating the context with the subject is at the crux of these issues.

Again, I agree that this divide and conquer strategy must be stopped at all costs, and this is exactly the strategy the corrupt elite have been undertaking to make sure we are fighting each other and not them, but one of these groups has institutional power, and the other doesn't. I find it hard to blame those with the boot of these institutions on their throats for simply fighting to survive.

Hey people,

Now you probably heard about the Yellow Vests protests that have been happening in Europe, especially heated in France.

I've been in those protests, and there was something incredible. During the fights against the cops I've been helped by a monarchist. A motherfucking monarchist. And while running away from a charge, when regrouping to counterattack, I found myself in the middle of what was clearly an extreme right group. And we charged together.

I'm a motherfucking commie. I'm 100% Marxist, Das Kapital is my Bible and I hate Adam Smith to the guts.

But there was something incredible in those protests. Where you stood on the political specter didn't matter, you were just a part of the population trying to fight against the dictatorship we call government.



I think there is something extremely important we need to understand: extreme right and extreme left are no longer ennemies. Well of course they are, but they have a worse common ennemy to fight.

We fall under the same laws of censorship. We are suppressed, muted, attacked, emprisonned equally by the people currently in power. We hate the same system, we just don't want to replace it the same way.
But you know what? I think that a protectionnist really free capitalism is still better than the corrupted shit we have. And extreme right must realize that a socialist state is still better than the corrupted shit we have.

We're under the rule of a "capitalism for the rich and the profits, socialism for the poors and the costs". In a really capitalist state the banks wouldn't have survived their mistakes. In a really socialist state, the banks wouldn't have survived their failure either.

I hate to see people like Macron or Hillary getting the support from the far left because "at least they're not racist protectionnists". And I hate seeing them getting the support from the far right because "at least they're not socialists". Depending on who they're challenging in election.

I'd vote Trump against Hillary every day. I'd vote Le Pen against Macron every day.
I wish extreme right would vote Senders against Hillary every day. And Melanchon against Macron every day.


I don't think we can win while continuing fighting each other. We got a common ennemy. Let's tear it down then we'll see how we handle our society.