Topic: One Alternative To High Gas Prices, The Electric Scooter (Read 335 times)

We already know we have limited supply of natural energy sources. And each second we burn billion tons of these precious sources just to travel from one place to other. There is dire need to think for coming future where we are independent of these limited sources.
There are tons of alternate source and around the world different students and professors are searching for more efficient ways to utilize those sources. Am also a chemistry graduate and know this matter very well.

Electric vehicles and motor bike are also one of the sources which use electricity as fuel to run. and with the combination of solar energy, it can be an infinite source of energy and to use freely.
many countries citizens like eclectic motors due to there silent and cool design. in future we can see more delightful and efficient version of them too.

Whenever the number do rise up that fast or being significant already then it would really be just normal for its government to impose rule for those who are using these things to get in line with bicycle lanes rather than

going itself into the main road where big vehicles do really cross and its true that it would be still risky if you do ride alone on using up this scooter.Not only it is just small occupation of space but also it is really that silent
for someone not able to notice it thats why it would be better that they would be in fused or make use of bicycle lanes which would be safer.

That has existed in my nation for years. It is not really a bad idea, I like riding those things because it is insanely cheap, it is like 10 cents per kilometre if you calculate it, which means that if you go to work 20 km away, that is 2 dollars per day spent on the ride. Even taking the bus could be more expensive then that, so you spend like 4 bucks per day on your travels to and from your work.

Not really a big amount of money and you could rent them everywhere and there is usually an app for it and you could see where is the closest one. The only problem is that sometimes there isn't any close one so you have to walk a lot, or you just use alternative ways. It is never really a good thing to open it up in the morning and finding none in your area.

It's rarely the vehicle's fault (electric scooters in our case), they are small in size, snappy throughout the city while the lack of sound isn't helping in the hustle of a large city. Anyway, their usage needs caution and proper infrastructure, such as bicycle paths, which could be used in conjunction with bicycles and with a speed limit of course, since some of those are quite fast.

There are some comparison in between treadmills and elliptical trainer.
https://www.healthline.com/health/osteoarthritis/knee-pain/treadmill-vs-elliptical#The-verdict

Not all people could afford a treadmill so simply walking on the streets or road would suffice if this one is really required and its true that 30 minute walk
isnt really a bad thing.All you do need to do is to persevere or making it as a default chore if you do tend to be healthy.

Totally agree with you, in my city, according to data, more accidents occur due to reckless electric scooter users and breaking road barriers.  Strict rules need to be imposed on scooter users because otherwise, it will have a bad impact on people, other than that don't buy products from china because usually, cheap stuff has bad quality lol.

The main reason why electric vehicles still not comes under the priority among people is the lack of charging station, how many people can afford to have two vehicles one for daily usage and another one with mechanical engine just for long travel? We also consider the people all around the world not only the people who can afford everything.

As a person who is fat (unfortunately) I have been to doctors all my life and they have constantly did tests on my body and always gave me the same advice, to walk. However, one thing that I did not know, and learned from my doctor visits and multiple doctors saying the same thing came to the same result; treadmills are not the way to do it.

I mean if you could walk on the road, or on some walking path, or basically just regular street, you could have a better result, when you are walking on a machine, that is bad for your knee joints. I have zero clue why that is, that is just what the doctors told me, but that is my only contribution to it. 30 minute walks every single day on a good path would improve a fat person's life very easily.

Personally I am in favor of buying a regular bicycle as well, the electric scooter looks fine and without a doubt there would be circumstances that would merit buying one, however if your commute to your job is relatively close then a regular bicycle could do the job and not only you will save on fuel costs but you will also exercise in the process.

And not only that depending on where you live and how much traffic there is the bicycle could be even faster than a car moving in the city, so it would not only be more energy efficient but also more time efficient, which is crazy considering how cheap bicycles can be compared to cars.

 This became a thing in Turkey these days. There is a company called "martı" that has been around for a few years now, like maybe 2-3 years at most but they grew insanely bigger and bigger during the pandemic. Nowadays I am seeing them putting electric type of bikes everywhere as well. Not those huge motorcycle things, just small tiny things that you can sit on and go. I believe that that will grow super insanely high as well. I do not know how you get licenses for that, but they probably spent millions upon millions of dollars to just get those vehicles, both the scooters and the electric mini bikes as well. Its really growing exponentially.

An alternative to a gas car is a car that consumes something different!
An electric scooter is an alternative to a bike to a gas scooter!

When you're living in a  country where it rains half of the year when it is not snowing, if you have 30km to commute, when you actually need to carry more than a man-purse to work this is no longer an alternative it's a punishment! Besides, I wound;t understand the need to go for an ultra-expensive scooter when you can get a cheap old-fashioned gas scooter like a Vespa that will get you far more range, be cheaper to fix, and will still get you 1/3 of the gas price.



Yeah, but that 70% means little when you use the bicycle for 1 km and then the car for 1000.
Directly form https://www.statbank.dk/3440


Or for the Netherlands:


10 km is barely the radius of cities like Bucharest or Warsaw, good luck if you're in the suburbs.   

I've lost hope a long time now, I've come to terms that gasoline and a lot of daily goods are going to be a lot more expensive than they used in the past. I'm also noticing a surge in electric bicycle purchases, especially after the government/European Union started promoting them by providing subsidies for them (30% of their total value if I'm not mistaken, it's a few hundred bucks for sure).

In my opinion, it's a great way to exercise and commute around the city, without spending too much money, while with a decent lock, you'll are likely to be safe enough for most cities. On top of that, you could even buy an electric folding bike, which you can carry around if you're afraid it gets stolen.

Unfortunately, these solutions are only for urban areas, while the current electric motorcycles have pretty limited autonomy and are extremely expensive.

now put that in a single inch of snow.

let alone 5 months of snow and minus 20.   

try commuting 20 miles. 

Yes, I think replacing motorbikes will be a response to a future need.  The benefits of electric motorbikes are indisputable when it is more suitable for high gasoline prices and serious environmental pollution.  However, in countries with a long rainy season and flooded with water, most electric scooters face major obstacles, and long-distance travel is also difficult to meet.  So for me, the most likely option is still to meet the needs of work or travel long distances, electric motorbikes will be a great choice and vice versa.

These are indeed valid points about con's on having an E-scooter thats why it doesnt really get that much attention aside on being expensive then other factors such as this would really be off a major concern.

This is just really only good if you do make out daily commute on a sunny or fair day but for rainy season then it would really be that hassle plus you are really exposing yourself into dust outside
on the time you are travelling due to other cars that are running around and if you do go to office then that would really be an unpleasant feeling plus you would really indeed minding about
security for it not to be stolen which is true that it is really just too easy to be done by someone.

Maybe that's your conclusion based on a long walk of 8 miles a day for a long time - but so far I haven't learned that moderate walking (30 minutes a day) is bad for your health, quite the opposite. What can be bad is walking in a polluted environment (traffic, industry) or using very uncomfortable footwear which can be very uncomfortable for the feet.


I know people who have saved a lot of money because they started using e-bikes even before the price of fuel went up - and they come to work faster because they avoid traffic jams. It should be borne in mind that the existence of bicycle paths is a very important factor when people decide on this way of traveling, primarily for safety.

Denmark is said to have one of the largest cycling cultures in the world with more than 12 000 km of cycle paths and about 70% of Danes use bicycles every day - which tells us that it is possible to live differently and not depend so much on oil.

E bikes & E scooter users is gradually increasing in numbers here in my place, but all users I saw was at the age bracket of below 30.
Mega fuel savings and skipping through the traffic are 2 of the major reasons I can see in using these E transpo.
But I can see one major disadvantage about it, the survivability rate once you get into an accident.
Then It will be followed with not so major list :
- weather (hassle during rainy season)
- easy to get stolen
- I'm quite sure there will be a weight limit? So If you're carrying a lot of stuff daily then I guess E Scooter is not gonna be an option. Maybe E Bikes will do.

I lost hope about Gas price roll back. Though there were roll backs, but after a week or two they'll start another hike higher than the previous one lol.
Here in PH I've seen price hikes 5-6 times in less than 2 months, there were roll backs yet another hike will be imposed again in a week.

Very many people are starting to consider buying a means of transportation that uses solar panels. not only because of high gas prices, but also because of current technological developments. Well, buying one at this time is a solution so that we can save on gas.
it's just that, the drawback of transportation that uses electricity is, the price is quite expensive. Well, not everyone can afford that. In addition, there are still many places that are not too familiar with this technology, so the charging system still has to be done at home, or in certain places. however, for some vehicles it is also not recommended for long trips. however, in terms of its many drawbacks, it's very good to buy one.
I've also seen systems that combine gas and battery. technology is also very good for us so that we can save gas. well, that might be the first step to using this alternative in the long term. Personally, I also intend to buy it when my needs have been met.

We are already on a hi-tech or modern era which these kind of innovation in terms of alternatives is truly that beneficial specially now that everything is really rising up specially petrol products which means that
going electric is good alternative but we know that not all would really be that financially capable on acquiring these things and it shows that it is really costly and in other note that  t here are things
which couldnt really be that feasible on using electric scooter which means those gasoline powered would be still that efficient on very common aspects on daily commute and other purposes.

I have walked around 8 miles to and from work. On a regular basis. It is time consuming and takes 1 to 2 hours to cover the distance. Then I tried covering the same route using a skateboard and bike. It definitely cut down on travel time.

Walking is not a good form of exercise, in my opinion. To get good exercise a person's heart rate needs to be elevated, which casual walking isn't known for producing.

I planned to recharge my scooter using solar panels and a windmill. That is close to an optimal solution AFAIK. At the moment I have a proof of concept windmill I want to build using a 775 permanent magnet motor. The biggest obstacle to windmills AFAIK is them needing 50:1 to 100:1 gearboxes so the motor can spin at the high RPM it needs to produce peak power. With a 775 motor acting as generator that's worth maybe 100 watts. Starting small seems like the way to go, to scale up to larger capacities later.

I have an old razor E300 with a few planned mods for that as well. I have copper tubing I plan to wrap around the motor housing to act as a water cooling jacket. Then I have a PC liquid cooling radiator and a fan to connect to the copper tubing. If it works, it should keep the motor cool. Planned to upgrade to a more powerful motor and eventually lithium batteries for 2x range extension.