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Topic: One Alternative To High Gas Prices, The Electric Scooter - page 2. (Read 335 times)

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While it's not a bad idea, it certainly not a great one either. I can detect many disadvantages, first and foremost, it can only be used inside the city, it cannot replace the need of having a car, which is required for longer distances. Secondly, drivers certainly don't pay much attention to motorbikes or actual even actual scooters, let alone an electric one, which doesn't even generate engine noise in order to be heard.

Especially electric bicycles, can be a lot more versatile in terms of moving cargo around, are worth their money, both can replace the need of fueling inside urban areas, while they're not that expensive to buy.

i prefer electric bicycles as well. at least with this, you can sit and you can as well carry a passenger/cargo much easier. it is safer also as compared to e-scooters. anyway, it depends on your activity for the day. some may find easier to use e-scooter if they are just going to short distances without carrying anything. but if you need to go a lil bit far and carry some stuffs, electric bicycle is preferred.

I guess those electric bicycles that can be seen mostly in Asian countries are not yet widespread in the US that's why they prefer electric scooter.

I have both but I do agree that I want to used my electric bicycles more than my scooter. One advantage as well is that when you travel at night. I customized by e-bicycles to have more lights so that motorist can see me. As compare to scooter that I didn't and the mileage that I can go with the bike. But both of them are very useful to me.
I've seen similar scooters around here, while they are versatile, I find them very dangerous. If used on a large city, you're certainly having a death wish, you'll get yourself runover. There are better alternatives, there are electric scooters that share similar characteristics with the regular 125cc (non electric) ones, and have nothing be jealous of. Some of which, are hard to even distinguish from those who have an internal combustion engine.
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I am always in favor of any form of vehicle that has minimal impact on the environment and provides fairly good autonomy at a very reasonable cost if we take into account how much energy they need for a single battery charge. For those who live in smaller cities (and even slightly larger ones), an electric bicycle (by which I mean hybrids) is a very cheap and practical way of traveling on smaller routes, although the initial investment can be significant.

A solid electric bicycle in the EU costs at least 2500 EUR, and if you want to adequately protect it from thieves, then you need a few hundred more EUR for a high-end padlock and preferably a GPS that is built into the bike itself. Although many people will never allow themselves to use such modes of transport, their cars are actually their status symbol, and whoever can afford an expensive car has no problem paying a higher price for fuel. I do not mean exclusively some celebrities, but middle-class people.
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Funny that no one yet suggested walking as an alternative to high gas prices? Walking - will make you be more healthy, fit, improve endurance. Cons - shoe deprecation, takes more time to travel, weather dependable.

Now serious - compare how much km you cover during March to October in city only, divide it to 100 and calculate the amount fuel you spend, to $300+ for a scooter plus several dollars weekly for scooter charge. It might turn, that car is still more profitable.

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This option is already getting explored as we speak. In my country EV started to run like crazy and honestly the number is growing way faster. The problem is with the fuel costing in my country. It’s just growing and growing day by day and that’s pees are exploring new options.

The big group like TATA, they have launched Nexon EV, the efficiency is around 600 km in single charge which is way way enough to travel here.

They have taken successful step even though we don’t have proper charging stations around the city. I think this is need and passion of the future that’s why it’s getting success.

So yes this alternative is big stuff ahead.
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Best is to use these and manual transport like cycling or walking, a bit of running, jogging etc, I guess with not only we save more money on it, we also boost our health a lot which is a win win situation Smiley plus, maybe in future prices of these will rise significantly as cost of gas and oil might go out of the general middle class family and it might be a good investment as well!

Fresh air and pedals from the bike are of course wonderful! But what if we need to go to visit our parents and at the same time all family members, two dogs and three bags of things should be with you? How can all this be moved on a bicycle? If you have one small child, riding a bicycle to visit is not possible
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This is not an alternative. What about people who got kids, lots of cargo, or people who live in poor weather conditions. If you must resort to this you might as well just take a bus everywhere. That way you don’t have to worry about it getting stolen.

There is no short term solution to the energy crisis. I think governments won’t do much because they want people out of their gas guzzlers and into more economical vehicles. The people that will suffer are those driving mini vans because they got kids.

EV and the batteries for them they just can’t be designed fast enough. And with enough usage everyone’s power bill will be double and won’t seem as cheap as they make it out to be.
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Iam a fan of all technology but this isnt ready for the mainstream, the majority will rather sit on the bus with their shopping bags not this.   Of course young people are biased and want to have these, I do personally but I just cant agree it'll work overall.    The usage of electric propulsion has advanced but its got further to go, ten to twenty years we'll expand the range of possibilities further.   At present I would describe scooters as nice for inner city areas where pollution most easily accumulates so hopefully good governance can encourage usage.
   The bigger challenge more obvious right now is production of energy without the old fossil fuels, do that and you will change the world away from all these old dictators and their awful actions and we can all gain.
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The elites get to drive full sized motor vehicles, while the rest of us are left with scooters, says a lot about the current predicament with energy, doesn't it? Reminds me how politicians and climate change grifters meet for a climate summit, in which they take their private jets and travel across the globe. The alternative to high energy prices aren't for the lower class to lower their energy needs, it's to increase energy production and ditch "green" energy initiatives which do not come close to meeting demands.
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The idea was suitable for the current situation.But the electric vehicle will come into force after a decades.Now the vehicle with Engine 6 was came.And the corporate had his own hand on this,they won’t allow this to happen.They had huge influence on this,from 5 years before the company and people saying about the electric vehicle.Let see how long it take for this action.
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While it's not a bad idea, it certainly not a great one either. I can detect many disadvantages, first and foremost, it can only be used inside the city, it cannot replace the need of having a car, which is required for longer distances. Secondly, drivers certainly don't pay much attention to motorbikes or actual even actual scooters, let alone an electric one, which doesn't even generate engine noise in order to be heard.

Especially electric bicycles, can be a lot more versatile in terms of moving cargo around, are worth their money, both can replace the need of fueling inside urban areas, while they're not that expensive to buy.

i prefer electric bicycles as well. at least with this, you can sit and you can as well carry a passenger/cargo much easier. it is safer also as compared to e-scooters. anyway, it depends on your activity for the day. some may find easier to use e-scooter if they are just going to short distances without carrying anything. but if you need to go a lil bit far and carry some stuffs, electric bicycle is preferred.

I guess those electric bicycles that can be seen mostly in Asian countries are not yet widespread in the US that's why they prefer electric scooter.

I have both but I do agree that I want to used my electric bicycles more than my scooter. One advantage as well is that when you travel at night. I customized by e-bicycles to have more lights so that motorist can see me. As compare to scooter that I didn't and the mileage that I can go with the bike. But both of them are very useful to me.
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While it's not a bad idea, it certainly not a great one either. I can detect many disadvantages, first and foremost, it can only be used inside the city, it cannot replace the need of having a car, which is required for longer distances. Secondly, drivers certainly don't pay much attention to motorbikes or actual even actual scooters, let alone an electric one, which doesn't even generate engine noise in order to be heard.

Especially electric bicycles, can be a lot more versatile in terms of moving cargo around, are worth their money, both can replace the need of fueling inside urban areas, while they're not that expensive to buy.

i prefer electric bicycles as well. at least with this, you can sit and you can as well carry a passenger/cargo much easier. it is safer also as compared to e-scooters. anyway, it depends on your activity for the day. some may find easier to use e-scooter if they are just going to short distances without carrying anything. but if you need to go a lil bit far and carry some stuffs, electric bicycle is preferred.
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While it's not a bad idea, it certainly not a great one either. I can detect many disadvantages, first and foremost, it can only be used inside the city, it cannot replace the need of having a car, which is required for longer distances. Secondly, drivers certainly don't pay much attention to motorbikes or actual even actual scooters, let alone an electric one, which doesn't even generate engine noise in order to be heard.

Especially electric bicycles, can be a lot more versatile in terms of moving cargo around, are worth their money, both can replace the need of fueling inside urban areas, while they're not that expensive to buy.
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I have Xiaomi m365 electric scooter. This is a great alternative to high gas prices, but only during summer, late spring and beginning of autumn. It is very demanding to road coverage (easy to puncture tire). It has no shock absorbers, so you hands and spine will feel every rock, hole you hit. It is good when need to travel for a short distance from place A to place B. But as soon as you need to move something or take with you, I would say that you will have to think about what you will carry in bag, and what you will leave at home. Electric scooters are more fun, than a real alternative to transport. Bicycle is more universal.
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Even if people massively switch to scooters they would still feel the overall inflation from gas prices because they still have a serious impact on supply chains. And since prices are pumped not because of demand burst, gas wouldn't go lower even if everyone switch to bicycles.

Also, gas prices are mainly going to be an american problem due to poor public transport. In Europe people already using alternative transport.
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I’ve already owned a standing e-scooter in which I’ve bought it for $300 at a local mall. The funny thing is that I only used it like 3 to 4 times but regularly charging it at home for at least once a month for little maintenance.

The main reason why I’ve bought the e-scooter is because of the then-restrictions of the COVID-19 pandemic that doesn’t permit PUVs (jeepneys, taxis, tricycles, etc.) from roaming around picking up passengers.

I could have sold it to another buyer because I only used it few times, but I was having second thoughts without any specific reason at all. I just felt that I still need it just in case the COVID-19 strict restrictions for PUVs are back again in the future.

Now that the oil prices are rising thanks to the ongoing war between Russia and Ukraine, maybe there’s a reason why I kept this for so long. Next week, the oil price hike in the Philippines will be painful in our pockets, so it’s time for me to use my e-scooter frequently.
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You're from the US, right? That means you have no idea what high gas prices are....

Here, I see those scooters on the roads more often nowadays, but they're not road legal. So they can get a fine, aren't insured, but much worse: they're not very safe. I've driven 2 wheel vehicles at much higher speeds, but those small wheels alone look terrible when there's a hole in the road. I wouldn't dare drive this amongst heavy car traffic.
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Those scooters look a bit flimsy for me. Most e-bikes in my country have about the same build as a motorbike though they apparently tend to be slower. I don't see people using them on freeways and major roads often though.

I suppose these are better if you got your own solarpanels to charge them at home (tugging along panels seems clumsy). Especially if the electricity cost in your country is high as well.
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Well, I am all for anything that will give a middle finger to these Oil b@stards!

I bought a small 125cc motorbike for city commute a while ago, but it is so scary to drive in our city... because people drive like obsessed maniacs... so I gave up on that idea. https://www.ktm.com/en-si/models/naked-bike/ktm-125-duke-2022.html  - FUEL CONSUMPTION   2.42 l/100 km

It is almost impossible to drive with the small e-scooters on our roads here, because you will die within the first week. (Nobody are even attempting it, even though it is the cheapest way to get from point A to B)  Roll Eyes

The most fuel efficient motorcycles : https://www.spritmonitor.de/en/evaluation/economic_motorcycles.html
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In the United States, I think there shouldn't be oil problems and Gas Prices should be lower because actually, they have 264 billion barrels of oil reserves.
I can't imagine living in the United States without owning a car at the moment. Some people are so far from work, they need hour of auto ride in order to arrive at job, so, Electric Scooter can't be an alternative for a lot of Americans.

The USA should have invested money in public transport if they want to dump the demand on oil, it's better for the society in general. Public transportation is clean, safe, inexpensive, effective and in some European countries, it's even faster than auto.
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This is an interesting thing to share the views upon as the gas prices has been grown to reluctant levels to double digits EV's are becoming the top priority of many people around the corner and this market is growing at really unexpected levels in almost every country.We could see there are some pros and cons related with these categories of e-scooter,bikes and cars but more problems could be there of small bikes.

They are currently operational in many countries and the number is growing continuously like in the US, Germany, Belgium and all other parts and these pictures are common to see in some developed countries where people or say at this time most of the teenagers are seen riding these e-scooters on thr streets :


If you wish to find out for each country then here is really helpful guide for you all to study: E- scooters around the world

But what are the problems related with it :

1) As above said there are safety issues concerning them because you need to have balance over them and not enough Strong to pushback any outside force like hitting of the vehicle from any side

2) The top speed is mostly limited to 20mph and you can't go on for long trips on them which is another drawback.

3) The seperate lanes for them needs to be developed so they can travel hastle free as there are other vehicles in which they cannot roam around easily.

4) The battery exhaust after few trips and you need to charge them as they don't have any long life and needs replacements

5) Suitable for single rider only

But there are positive aspects also for these rides which we all know like :

1) Cheap cost then our traditional vehicles running on gas

2) Maintenance costs and their size is small which is much beneficial for them to ride upon.

3) Your health remains fit if you are riding these small scooters across the street.

Talking about the global share then these are biggest players involved in this market or say investors which have big share in them :



This market is way beyond than what we are expecting it to be and the returns or say CAGR is expected to grow at much bigger level than what we have anticipated.

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The eScooter market will worth nearly $41.98 billion by 2030, as per the study by Grand View Research Inc. Due to this rise, the market will face a boom in CAGR by 8.5%.

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As per a report, the global sales of electric scooters and bicycles are expected to reach 129 million units by 2028. In 2019, the electric scooters sales was near 46.89 44.39, which grew to 50 in 2020. This gradual growth tells us the incessantly growing demand for the eScooter services

The expected growth is at this level :


Source: E-scooter trends

But still there needs to be wide adoption but keeping in mind various factors we could say that EV cars would be in much use as all the major players like Ford,Tesla,Audi and others will develop more sustainable cars for the future maybe alternate to electricity also but the need of hour can help us with these scooters so if you wish to have one it's worth it.
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