Online casino. What's the reliability of the technology? - page 5.

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If the casino want to be popular to the gambler,they will not do some shady things like blatantly cheating their customer.We know that the house always win,but we can still quit while we are ahead.Regardless of the algorithm technology casino used,as the player we should have self control and don't get greedy.

In order to stay and survive in gambling world, a gambling site should be trustworthy. If they will fail to secure their players, then they should expect that sooner or later, little to no one would trust and play in their site. We're all aware that the house, most of the time, is at an advantage. This is for them to profit. Which is why there is something called rtp rate. A casino shouldn't rely on dirty tactics such as cheating just to ensure a profit out of it.

Every casino and gambling website wouldn't really give out their software and algorithm for security purposes. It should be kept hidden and unknown so that it won't be abused by the players. Because of course, once people knew how things work, they will come up with a plan to utilize it to their own adavantage. Even if it means to cheat on the house. After all, some players are just after the money. Perhaps players could just find provably fair based casinos and check the reviews about them to countercheck whether it's realiable or not.

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If the casino want to be popular to the gambler,they will not do some shady things like blatantly cheating their customer.We know that the house always win,but we can still quit while we are ahead.Regardless of the algorithm technology casino used,as the player we should have self control and don't get greedy.

It might not be directly be spotted at first glance if its just new but sooner or later it would really be discovered if someone do make out some indepth checks and verification towards bets.

We know that there's no perfect system but you could really notice on which business is really going after in long term and to those who are really tending to scam.

You can spot it out if you are veteran enough but of course it would really be justified on some behavior made by them.

If the casino is doing good business and surviving long, it means, they are doing right. Because if they are doing any cheating to their players, at some point, someone will point that out and it will be under investigation. But if no one is complaining for years, it means, they are doing good business. But I think, if someone knows how to check the provable fairness of the game, you can always check it randomly to make sure they are still practicing what they preach.

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If the casino want to be popular to the gambler,they will not do some shady things like blatantly cheating their customer.We know that the house always win,but we can still quit while we are ahead.Regardless of the algorithm technology casino used,as the player we should have self control and don't get greedy.

It might not be directly be spotted at first glance if its just new but sooner or later it would really be discovered if someone do make out some indepth checks and verification towards bets.

We know that there's no perfect system but you could really notice on which business is really going after in long term and to those who are really tending to scam.

You can spot it out if you are veteran enough but of course it would really be justified on some behavior made by them.

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You can verify the mechanics in an audit but if there are no such data you could not be sure if the game is fair or not. No casino will give you the algorithm as you could beat it if you know how it works and rip of the casino. Still with unknown casinos you can never know if it is fair.

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Quote from: Markinzo on April 11, 2022, 12:40:58 AM

To what extent is the online slot game machine RTP reliable based on it's technology?

As words in the street has it that it has gained so much popularity than other casino games due to it's simplicity nature.

Let's discuss, what's your view.

Let's be honest, when it comes to money people are bound to pay much more attention than anything else. It is similar to asking about the security of online banking, for sure you should question everything, but there is huge resources put into setting up, maintaining and future proofing such technology when it can cause the banks mega money if things go wrong. Casinos and sportbooks are no exception to this rule, they will often stick with tried and tested systems (many are simply white label clones) because they stand to lose a lot of money due to any failures. They also want customers to be safe because it's only constantly new deposits that draw in so much profit for them and they have to give at least occasional fair wins if they want lots of return custom.

This also explains partially why bitcoin is still by far the most popular cryptocurrency in the market, while many are seduced by the idea of earning a lot of money with new coins, the investors that are more conservative take a look at the market and see a coin that is 6 months old and bitcoin that has been around for more than a decade so which one will they choose to invest into?

And the obvious answer is bitcoin, bitcoin has been gone through all kind of scenarios already, like an economic crisis, a pandemic, a war and many other scenarios and it is still here, while a new coin is completely untested, so it is natural that when it comes to the different solutions available to secure our fund banks and casinos use the most trusted and tested technology available.

If in fact, due to that statement is when most discussions are general, there are many people who are lovers of altcoins, and they say that altcoins grow much faster than BTC, but what they do not have in mind is that you lie to btc it is in a bearish trend there are some altocins that even die and others that are like the case of LUNA go to the ground and to recover it is something almost impossible, because the confidence of the investors who lost money will no longer believe in such a project, however It is better as you say, BTC will always be superior, so among the crypto that enters, they will never exceed BTC.

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Quote from: Fortify on May 16, 2022, 04:10:12 PM

Quote from: Markinzo on April 11, 2022, 12:40:58 AM

To what extent is the online slot game machine RTP reliable based on it's technology?

As words in the street has it that it has gained so much popularity than other casino games due to it's simplicity nature.

Let's discuss, what's your view.

Let's be honest, when it comes to money people are bound to pay much more attention than anything else. It is similar to asking about the security of online banking, for sure you should question everything, but there is huge resources put into setting up, maintaining and future proofing such technology when it can cause the banks mega money if things go wrong. Casinos and sportbooks are no exception to this rule, they will often stick with tried and tested systems (many are simply white label clones) because they stand to lose a lot of money due to any failures. They also want customers to be safe because it's only constantly new deposits that draw in so much profit for them and they have to give at least occasional fair wins if they want lots of return custom.

This also explains partially why bitcoin is still by far the most popular cryptocurrency in the market, while many are seduced by the idea of earning a lot of money with new coins, the investors that are more conservative take a look at the market and see a coin that is 6 months old and bitcoin that has been around for more than a decade so which one will they choose to invest into?

And the obvious answer is bitcoin, bitcoin has been gone through all kind of scenarios already, like an economic crisis, a pandemic, a war and many other scenarios and it is still here, while a new coin is completely untested, so it is natural that when it comes to the different solutions available to secure our fund banks and casinos use the most trusted and tested technology available.

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Quote from: ipanks on May 10, 2022, 03:29:03 AM

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I think it's natural that beginners always want to win and even people who are used to playing gambling also want to always win. But unfortunately, their desire to always win will not always come true and this must be realized them so that they are not eager to win. These people really need to limit themselves to gambling and always realize that playing gambling has only two choices, namely winning and losing. Maybe they won today but that doesn't mean they will be able to win big today because who knows in the next minute, they will lose and lose their previous winning money. So the awareness to immediately stop playing gambling after getting a win is very necessary.

Yes, although I think that is already part of the personality of each person, the way he plays is the same way he makes decisions, although he has no control over his emotions, he will transfer them directly to the game.

People who lack self-control often have trouble keeping a lot of money and gambling much more than they can afford to lose.

In cases like this, some casinos have a type of Stop for players of that style, and they don't let them bet more because they lose a lot, so that causes the casinos to put restrictions on them, in fact I think all casinos have that option.

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Quote from: Markinzo on April 11, 2022, 12:40:58 AM

To what extent is the online slot game machine RTP reliable based on it's technology?

As words in the street has it that it has gained so much popularity than other casino games due to it's simplicity nature.

Let's discuss, what's your view.

Let's be honest, when it comes to money people are bound to pay much more attention than anything else. It is similar to asking about the security of online banking, for sure you should question everything, but there is huge resources put into setting up, maintaining and future proofing such technology when it can cause the banks mega money if things go wrong. Casinos and sportbooks are no exception to this rule, they will often stick with tried and tested systems (many are simply white label clones) because they stand to lose a lot of money due to any failures. They also want customers to be safe because it's only constantly new deposits that draw in so much profit for them and they have to give at least occasional fair wins if they want lots of return custom.

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But there are also too many people that let their emotions to take complete control and when that happens they cannot think clearly, and as such they look for any excuse to try to avoid their responsibility, so they blame the casinos for their losses when the reality is that no one forced them to gamble.

Out of disappointment, they're all looking for someone to blame for the bad result that they're not expecting. Also the system the casino is also blamed for as they dig just for themselves to be satisfied because of the unfavored outcome.
It all ends up with having no control and that's what we're always going to see when a gambler losses a lot and even there's a good system like RTP from that casino, they'll describe against it.

but i don't think they will go against with reputable casinos because it is hard to get sympathy from the community if they are complaining to a well-known casino. they need to provide valid proofs about their complaint, otherwise, they will just be ignored.
as a responsible gambler, you should know that gambling has consequences that you need to accept as a player. no one can help you when you are going deep in this game. the losses and mental stress, it is all on you. so before you get into this, ready yourself for what's to come. don't blame anyone or the system, because you know better.

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Quote from: ipanks on May 11, 2022, 01:41:31 AM

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Hopefully, more and more people will be able to stop to think for a moment about wanting to stop gambling after doing so for some time. It is for their own good and to avoid losing even more money. Controlling emotions is very necessary for playing gambling because many of us when we lose will think of continuing to play in the hope that we can recover our losses and can get a win. Maybe we should get rid of such thoughts because that is a hard thing to get in gambling. And we should just enjoy the moments of playing gambling and not expect much to get a win because it is a bonus for lucky people.

I really hope that would be the case, I think we can all understand that a person can make a mistake or two while they gamble as we are average people and sometimes our emotions can get the better out of us, but as long as we learn our lesson out of this then there is not too much of a problem.

The issue are those people that do not want to accept their responsibility and keep blaming others for their mistakes, since they will always think that everyone else is at fault and that they are victims of the casino when in fact they are the ones that cannot control their impulses, and that is why they keep losing money they did not planned to lose.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on May 10, 2022, 02:16:10 PM

But there are also too many people that let their emotions to take complete control and when that happens they cannot think clearly, and as such they look for any excuse to try to avoid their responsibility, so they blame the casinos for their losses when the reality is that no one forced them to gamble.

Out of disappointment, they're all looking for someone to blame for the bad result that they're not expecting. Also the system the casino is also blamed for as they dig just for themselves to be satisfied because of the unfavored outcome.
It all ends up with having no control and that's what we're always going to see when a gambler losses a lot and even there's a good system like RTP from that casino, they'll describe against it.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on May 10, 2022, 09:05:39 AM

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We have seen many gamblers lose control of imposing limits due to the temptation of gambling and many of them end up bankrupt because of gambling. We don't want to experience the same thing as them so we really have to be able to take care of ourselves when playing gambling. If we have often played gambling and can always control ourselves, we will be able to feel when it is time to stop, especially if we have managed to win some money.

As long as we can keep our emotions and self-control, the urge to gamble will not be great and we can immediately decide to stop.

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Hopefully, more and more people will be able to stop to think for a moment about wanting to stop gambling after doing so for some time. It is for their own good and to avoid losing even more money. Controlling emotions is very necessary for playing gambling because many of us when we lose will think of continuing to play in the hope that we can recover our losses and can get a win. Maybe we should get rid of such thoughts because that is a hard thing to get in gambling. And we should just enjoy the moments of playing gambling and not expect much to get a win because it is a bonus for lucky people.

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Quote from: ipanks on May 05, 2022, 04:06:23 AM

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If they could rethink why all this happened, they would see that it was their own fault. They will then learn from their mistakes and will not repeat them in the future because it sure hurts to lose money because of losing control at the gambling table.

But not everyone can learn from their mistakes and only those who can realize what they have done can learn from it.

Without a doubt if people stopped to think for a second about the circumstances surrounding their losses they would realize that they are the ones at fault and they should learn a lesson out of all of this and improve as a person.

But there are also too many people that let their emotions to take complete control and when that happens they cannot think clearly, and as such they look for any excuse to try to avoid their responsibility, so they blame the casinos for their losses when the reality is that no one forced them to gamble.

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I think it's natural that beginners always want to win and even people who are used to playing gambling also want to always win. But unfortunately, their desire to always win will not always come true and this must be realized them so that they are not eager to win. These people really need to limit themselves to gambling and always realize that playing gambling has only two choices, namely winning and losing. Maybe they won today but that doesn't mean they will be able to win big today because who knows in the next minute, they will lose and lose their previous winning money. So the awareness to immediately stop playing gambling after getting a win is very necessary.

Indeed. Being greedy won't get you anywhere. If these players won't know where to set limitations, they will definitely end up bankrupt after some time. Having boundaries is a healthy tip to save yourself from getting addicted in gambling. It should be something you should establish first everytime you want to bet on something.

Continuous winning might be so fulfilling and encouraging to bet more. However, it could also lead you to losing everything you've won and worked hard for if you won't be able to manage and control your urge to play more. The more you desire greater than what you already have, the more risk you get yourself into. Do not be blinded by the shiny lights it reflects. Most of the time, it's just an illusion to lure you to heavier consequences.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 09, 2022, 09:04:53 PM

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I think it's natural that beginners always want to win and even people who are used to playing gambling also want to always win. But unfortunately, their desire to always win will not always come true and this must be realized them so that they are not eager to win. These people really need to limit themselves to gambling and always realize that playing gambling has only two choices, namely winning and losing. Maybe they won today but that doesn't mean they will be able to win big today because who knows in the next minute, they will lose and lose their previous winning money. So the awareness to immediately stop playing gambling after getting a win is very necessary.

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I don't know if he can keep his money or not because, as far as I know, usually a beginner can get emotional when he loses and if he doesn't have self-control, he can use all his money.

Not only those who are beginners can play crazy, but people who often play gambling can also experience it. Here only people who can control themselves can survive.

Well yes, what happens is that people's emotions usually manifest themselves in certain acts, most rookies always want to win, but never consider losing, in their minds reality does not exist in most cases, when we are playing forever action or reflex you don't think about losing, the average player's thought will always be "winning" and if they see that that option is gone, they will look for a way to do it and that is where you can lose all the money possible, of course, to Sometimes a novice person enters the game without having a plan or risk management, because he does not have much experience, but what must be avoided at all costs is that he loses all his money, if he loses it once, I think he will learn and will have to make a plan to save your balance, but out of necessity and for fun.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on May 04, 2022, 03:33:47 PM

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If they could rethink why all this happened, they would see that it was their own fault. They will then learn from their mistakes and will not repeat them in the future because it sure hurts to lose money because of losing control at the gambling table.

But not everyone can learn from their mistakes and only those who can realize what they have done can learn from it.

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I don't know if he can keep his money or not because, as far as I know, usually a beginner can get emotional when he loses and if he doesn't have self-control, he can use all his money.

Not only those who are beginners can play crazy, but people who often play gambling can also experience it. Here only people who can control themselves can survive.

In my opinion this is what causes the vast majority of the unfair accusations against casinos, a newbie begins to gamble and then they suffer some losses in a row they were no expecting and instead of accepting this as simply the RNG throwing some bad numbers at them at the time they get emotional and make a big bet to recover the money they have lost.

Then when they lose everything they claim the casino was a scam when it was their own actions and lack of control which were the main reasons why they lost their money so quickly.

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Quote from: Ahli38 on May 03, 2022, 09:33:32 AM

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I had thought that a beginner's luck could be bigger than a player who was accustomed to playing slots because somehow, they could get that lucky moment easily. But beginners can lose control over him and, in the end, will lose all their money if he does not stop immediately after getting a victory. This needs to be considered by everyone and not only beginners but also people used to play gambling.

Quote from: wiss19 on May 03, 2022, 04:33:18 PM

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Yes, you are right. Almost everyone who plays gambling will feel the experience because gambling is not a way to get income and even a pro -gambler can experience defeat. It would be different if they only played because they had fun and not focused on getting money from gambling.

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We can learn from past mistakes to think further before we use more money to gamble. In addition, mistakes can help mature us in thinking more mature and not only concerned about getting money from gambling that will never be easy to get it.

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Quote from: wiss19 on May 03, 2022, 04:33:18 PM

If the technology is based on provably fair which used by most crypto gambling sites then yes it is reliable but if its based on unknown systems then there there can be bugs on them. Players can gain less trust on playing on that kind of casinos.

Just because a slot game or any other casino game uses a provably fair algorithm doesn't necessarily mean it is bug free. The main purpose from the provably fair feature is to provide more transparency and to allow the player to verify the outcome of each round. That's practically what it's all about.
And, tbh, I didn't encounter many slot games that are provably fair except few BGaming games.

Quote from: wxa7115 on May 04, 2022, 03:33:47 PM

a newbie begins to gamble and then they suffer some losses in a row they were no expecting and instead of accepting this as simply the RNG throwing some bad numbers at them at the time they get emotional and make a big bet to recover the money they have lost.

Long losing streaks happen all the time and using a provably fair algorithm can protect the casino too in case a player start complaining as it can prove with no doubt that the results were randomly generated.

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