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We have one open Sr. Member spot as a participant decided to leave. Apply now Smiley
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I don't want to comment on what has happened in the past as I was not involved and I didn't take too much notice of it (I've had my own issues with previous campaigns that I managed). I do however want to shine some light on a few things.

I reached out to Luptin a little while back as someone messaged me and said there were some issues with the two Campaigns (This and 777coin) and as I've known Lutpin for a while through the collectibles section I wanted to offer my help and look at perhaps taking over the Campaigns. Lutpin was very grateful and helpful with all of this and we together cleared up the backlog and got payments out that were missing while also talking to lightlord about handing over the Campaigns for me to manage in the future.

I recommended to lightlord that we should restart the Campaigns and I can't comment on whether my recommendation was what made it happen or if that was already the plan but once I had looked at the previous members there were only a handful of people left, and they were barely posting as it was and that's why I thought this would be a better idea. Perhaps it would have been better for me to reach out to the previous members prior to the new threads being posted but it's always easy to look at it that way in hindsight.

As of now, lightlord has funded both escrow addresses with 0.6BTC each and according to my calculations of what we'll pay out weekly that'll cover plenty of weeks moving forward before we need to refill it. I take a lot of pride in my management service and I always care & fight for the participants of all of them. Moving forward I am very positive that there'll be no issues unless I'd get deathly ill (and probably not even then). I've had nothing but good talks with lightlord and he is deeply involved in making sure that everything is 100% and issue free.

I'm also in the process of paying out the funds that weren't paid up to this point, but there's only a small amount of members that have any outstanding balance.

I get where you are coming from Pharmacist and I'm just here trying to do my best. The future is looking bright however for both this and the 777Coin Campaign. Those who know me knows that I'm a hard worker as well as a perfectionist and I care about my reputation here too much to ever let anything happen that would question either that or my integrity.
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It's unfortunate that anyone for example can have 10s or 100s of regular users with given positive feed back, or years of reputable history. But all it takes is one person on the DT trust list to be angered or leave a negative trust, and your account is permanently flagged negative/red.
I'm not trying to hijack this thread, and this will be my last response unless a new thread devoted specifically to this issue is opened up, but this statement needs to be addressed.

All that positive feedback you've received over the years is nice, but you should know damn well that there are quite a few members who've had the same and ended up getting tagged by DT members.  Also, all your past feedback has nothing to do with your actions while you had Lutpin managing your campaign.  You're basically saying that you're a victim because of your trust history, and you are quite mistaken about that.  

Anyone who's thinking about joining one of your campaigns should be warned about you.  Part of it was indeed Lutpin's fault, but you treated all your campaign participants like shit by not communicating with them to keep them apprised of what was happening--and there's a good reason for that.  You were doing nothing to get the campaign participants paid.  They were advertising for you in the hope that eventually they'd get paid.  They didn't speak up because of your reputation, which you used to your advantage.  A bunch of signature campaigners who are very likely desperate for money aren't going to complain when the campaign was started by a Legendary member who's been here since 2011.

For weeks you did nothing to make things right and finally when Lutpin got off his ass and did his job, some participants started complaining that they hadn't been paid for all of the posts they'd made.

And after being told that there would be a new campaign manager, now you told people that this wasn't a campaign manager transition at all, that these are totally new campaigns.  You thus fucked over members who had faith in you after they found out that they're no longer in one of your campaigns.  That's lousy management on your part, at best.  You earned that feedback I left, my friend.  It's unfortunate other DT members apparently don't feel the same and keep silent about all of this.

Having said all of that, I have no doubt that Hhampuz will do an excellent job as your campaign manager.  It's not him I have concerns about: it is you, Lightlord.  I'm hoping your bad practices don't start affecting him and his reputation, since you're basically his boss.  Don't know him personally, but I think he has enough integrity to work for you and not end up pulling any funny stuff at your behest.

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I get where you are coming from Pharmacist and I'm just here trying to do my best.
I happen to believe that, and as I said I have no issue with you whatsoever.  The issue of restarting the campaign without including the previous ones isn't the big issue anyway, although when you say that there were very few posters left at the end, why do you think that was?  The members who'd stopped posting were probably very happy with the way the campaigns used to run but had given up after the BS that lightlord and Lutpin pulled.  They did the smart thing, but I would guess that many of them were loyal to 777Coin and Bitvest for quite a while and probably should have been invited back. 

Whatever.  Moving on from that, I've seen how you manage campaigns and you do an excellent job.  All I'm saying is that you've got a boss as well, and I'm hoping none of his previous behaviors get repeated.  But since the debacle of those two campaigns resulted from a combination of lightlord and Lutpin's actions (and inactions), I have faith that the new campaigns run far more smoothly.  Good luck.
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It will be my honor working with you again sir Hhampuz.

You'll be accepted on probation. I need to see some more activity from you and less gaps between posts. Welcome!
Thank you sir for accepting me.  I will give my best.
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It will be my honor working with you again sir Hhampuz.

You'll be accepted on probation. I need to see some more activity from you and less gaps between posts. Welcome!
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It will be my honor working with you again sir Hhampuz.
legendary
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Meh.
One Sr. Member slot has opened up, first reply after this post gets the position in Tier D.

Note, if the first page of your post history dates back to October it will be hard for me to accept you, we want active users and not ones that will be gone for months or just post 5 times per month without anything constructive.
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First, Lutpin pays every two months and provides lame excuses every time, it goes on for half a year, and not even one comment from lightlord during that time.

In the beginning it was fine, and Luptin had a reputable history, however yes Luptin did get more unreliable in payment duration overtime, and regret not firing and replacing at a sooner time.

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Why? Do you do it in hope to save that 10% Bonus? If so, you should just not have mentioned it in the first place, lightlord.

You still have an option to correct your wrongdoings, but they are getting fewer with every move you make: now you have old campaign members you need to recompensate as well as new campaign participants you need to recompensate. I doubt that you will. This is why I am saying, you cannot be trusted.

Not true at all, any missed/not payed will be processed shortly in the beginning round of this campaign as a transaction. I even mentioned it this previous post. Once this is all cleared up, everything will be smooth as usual.


If not true, then, as I said in my response to Hhampuz: just stand by what you yourself have said/promised in the thread and I will gladly say I was very wrong in my assessment.
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I am already in the process of counting posts from the previous campaign and I will compensate everyone that were not paid accordingly.

Regarding moving over the previous members, after looking through the previous sheet there were barely any members left as most had left the campaign or gone inactive (You can check the spreadsheet yourself to see this).
the easier the task to move them all would have been. Not saying, that any that may have left or gone inactive is just an effect of the campaign being mostly inactive since Dec 4th, a sure effect of your own (=organizators') actions. But what really happened, I believe, is that all of them, like me, were just waiting for (how Lutpin has put it) a new campaign manager since Lutpin's announcement. Just read the comments since Dec 4th.

Please do not throw around words like "untrusted" as that really isn't a fair assessment of the situation.
Well, what is the fair assessment? I have cited posts on which I based my assessment. Just stand by what was written in the thread previously by the previous manager and Lightlord and I will gladly say I was wrong.
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First, Lutpin pays every two months and provides lame excuses every time, it goes on for half a year, and not even one comment from lightlord during that time.

In the beginning it was fine, and Luptin had a reputable history, however yes Luptin did get more unreliable in payment duration overtime, and regret not replacing at a sooner time.

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Why? Do you do it in hope to save that 10% Bonus? If so, you should just not have mentioned it in the first place, lightlord.

You still have an option to correct your wrongdoings, but they are getting fewer with every move you make: now you have old campaign members you need to recompensate as well as new campaign participants you need to recompensate. I doubt that you will. This is why I am saying, you cannot be trusted.

Not true at all, any missed/not payed will be processed shortly in the beginning round of this campaign as a transaction. I even mentioned it this previous post. Once this is all cleared up, everything will be smooth as usual.

legendary
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Meh.
I am already in the process of counting posts from the previous campaign and I will compensate everyone that were not paid accordingly.

Regarding moving over the previous members, after looking through the previous sheet there were barely any members left as most had left the campaign or gone inactive (You can check the spreadsheet yourself to see this).

Please do not throw around words like "untrusted" as that really isn't a fair assessment of the situation.
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Hi Lightlord and Hhampuz,

I am not saying it is unfair to old campaign participants that you didn't move us to the new campaign, because I don't want to look like I am complaining. It is just you guys cannot be trusted

First, Lutpin pays every two months and provides lame excuses every time, it goes on for half a year, and not even one comment from lightlord during that time.

Then some comments appeared from Lutpin that a new manager is coming soon (soon = it took 20 days in reality):
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I'll be handing over the campaign to a new manager within the next days. You'll hear more from him once the transfer is finalized.

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Note, that talk is about new manager and handling over the campaign, not a new campaign.

Then lightlord sais of a new campaign manager, not a new campaign:
Apologize for the delays on the announcement,

A new campaign manager is in progress currently and should take no longer than up to a week Max.
Everyone should have been paid up to at least 2 weeks from before this date. As this falls on Luptin
responsibilities up till then. However, as seeing it seems there are some from before that period of up
to a month. Campaigns were mostly on a monthly schedule anyways, so the delays aren't too large.
You will all be eligible for a 10% Bonus Payment.

With a new campaign manager, there should be no more delays in the future and everything paid on time and accordingly.
And the time schedule for payment is planned on being moved to a much shorter time frame of weekly to bi-weekly.


What really happened? You guys on the eve of Dec 24th, when everybody was celebrating Christmas (not looking to your threads), silently created a whole new thread, new campaign and cancelled the old one. Old participants were removed (me, szpalata, megynacuna, god knows how many more). Some new people who by chance were online during that time singed up. Why? Do you do it in hope to save that 10% Bonus? If so, you should just not have mentioned it in the first place, lightlord.

You still have an option to correct your wrongdoings, but they are getting fewer with every move you make: now you have old campaign members you need to recompensate as well as new campaign participants you need to recompensate. I doubt that you will. This is why I am saying, you cannot be trusted.

EDIT: read what I have written above Lightlord and maybe you will not be that surprised your account is flagged red:
Campaign Manger Address: 1BitV13snrE12oaJXWgdtm6YghyLVQahUn (Filled)

Everyone that is enrolled, starting Monday's of each week, will be payed accordingly. Any missed payment from previous old campaign will be credited with a 10% bonus.

It's unfortunate that anyone for example can have 10s or 100s of regular users with given positive feed back, or years of reputable history. But all it takes is one person on the DT trust list to be angered or leave a negative trust, and your account is permanently flagged negative/red.

EDIT2: if truth, thanks for the bonus
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Campaign Manger Address: 1BitV13snrE12oaJXWgdtm6YghyLVQahUn (Filled)

Everyone that is enrolled, starting Monday's of each week, will be payed accordingly. Any missed payment from previous old campaign will be credited with a 10% bonus.

It's unfortunate that anyone for example can have 10s or 100s of regular users with given positive feed back, or years of reputable history. But all it takes is one person on the DT trust list to be angered or leave a negative trust, and your account is permanently flagged negative/red.
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I'm just curious and I already posted my concern on the old thread but would you be the one to take care also of our previous payments? I just wanted to ask you also.
After reading some of the response from Hhampuz I do not think it's his job. The previous manager and lightlord should deal with it. This is a fresh campaign with a brand new manager for this campaign. I am glad that Hhampuz is on board. I hope he is going to be communicative with the percipients.
Yes, probably we will know once he Replies to my concern. Anyway I just wanted to know what they have talked about or something. It is a fresh campaign with the new Campaign manager but still the same owner or the brand itself. I’m not forcing anyone anything I just want to know if they have addressed it or something.
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I'm just curious and I already posted my concern on the old thread but would you be the one to take care also of our previous payments? I just wanted to ask you also.
After reading some of the response from Hhampuz I do not think it's his job. The previous manager and lightlord should deal with it. This is a fresh campaign with a brand new manager for this campaign. I am glad that Hhampuz is on board. I hope he is going to be communicative with the percipients.
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This is a new campaign, with a new payment system, a new payout system and a new manager. It is not a continuation of the previous campaign. It was not unfair to not automatically add you guys to the new campaign, it was about being transparent and start off the new campaign as you'd do with any campaign.

I'm sorry if you feel bad about not being included in the new one, but I'm not sure what to tell you other than that this was the decision that we made. Feel free to apply when a new position opens up though, I'd happily accept you Smiley.
I understand what you meant, if I hadn't seen this thread I wouldn't have been able to post here and apply for this campaign. I was lucky. It's just really saddening that some of the old members didn't get to join here. Looking forward to your management.

I'm just curious and I already posted my concern on the old thread but would you be the one to take care also of our previous payments? I just wanted to ask you also.
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