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sr. member
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November 12, 2019, 09:58:21 PM
#66
And also consider that you joined because of the payment, and they will pay you from your posts. Limiting the number of posts might not be fair for them as they also have their target that's why they need you. You don't need to join in the first they've already stated the task.
legendary
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November 12, 2019, 08:20:59 AM
#65
Opps! I am not going to feeding OP with merits. @OP, can I ask why you have wear signature if you heat weekly requirements. Who are forcing you? No one, right ? So don't join any campaign if you feel uncomfortable. Someone paying you just for posting on the forum. They never ask you about traffic or something else. Do you believe anyone should pay when you make post on like Facebook or Twitter? Its same it ? Its just a crypto forum. Who are paying you just for posting they might have some requirements. If you like freedom then who is forcing you to join on the campaign? When you will do a job there is a time frame for work. You can't adjust it by yourself if you are not owner. So campaign is same and most likely you are talking about it.

First you should search how many post has been made on meta regarding signature campaign. Then you were should make post. This post really wasn't necessary. So I will consider this topic as a spam topics and spam opportunity for signature spammer (I am not excluding me). So please stop make duplicate topics regarding same subjects. This is more dangerous spam from something else. Because this thread calling more spammer here. And yes, you might call me a spammer I would not mind since I have commented here as well.

Of course managers should reject all spammers application and believe doing with btc signature campaigns. But campaign with tokens never monitoring by managers I think. That's main issue. Most of spam reason is token campaign more than btc signature. And token campaign could manage by even with newbie user. So who will control and how.
sr. member
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November 12, 2019, 07:42:02 AM
#64
I think the number of post is not a problem but I like the suggestion to lower the minimum so people will not be force to post just to hit the quota.
  I still don't know why these people are keep complaining about the rules for bounty, If you know you can't keep the work on your job why did you apply then? As far as I know bounty managers are not responsible on the campaign rules, they are just based on forum rules which abide the the rules of bitcointalk. They are on staking, checking and reporting.


Let's get real here, we know there's a lot of bounty hunters that are just posting non sense just to pass the requirement weekly so they can get a stake, so I think the process should start in the selection process, bounty managers should give time to to do a manual selection process.
Having that said, manual selection process will take a lot of time to do since there are approximately a hundreds of bounty hunter in a single campaign, even a thousand if it is known and big campaign.
What could be an effective solution is that general ruling for campaign should be, participants must scatter their post on different sections making the signatures appear on every sections. It is an eye sore seeing the same poster just right after the thread you've read into talking about nonsense matter.
legendary
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November 12, 2019, 03:35:55 AM
#63
You can't post on child boards when promoting a signature campaign , its been stated in the bounty rules that posts made on any child boards will not be counted
I think you mean local boards, because child boards are just subsections, like Reputation is a child board of Trading Discussion--someone correct me if I'm wrong with that example as I'm just writing this off the top of my head.

Look at all the shitposts in this thread, written in garbage English and with little thought put into them.  Know why?  It's because bounty hunters generally know how to write about only a few topics, and bounty hunting is one of them.  Fifteen posts per week should be just fine for members to handle and not spam.  The problem is that everyone has alts enrolled in bounties, and so they're managing who knows how many accounts, each cranking out the maximum number of posts. 

The max number of paid posts for the Chipmixer campaign is 50, and there are plenty of members who can hit that number and still have every single post be decent.  If you can't make all fifteen of your weekly posts constructive, the problem lies with you, not the bounty or campaign.
hero member
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November 12, 2019, 03:21:51 AM
#62
I'm curious if the OP is referring to all managers as "bounty Managers" or if he/she is talking strictly about bounty campaigns?

As far as just bounty campaigns go, being as a lot of those users are going to post in the altcoin boards and clutter the hell out of those boards, I could see advocating for lowered weekly minimums for bounty campaigns.

There is a 3rd option here though. You can always go get an actual job and not worry about having to post a weekly minimum on here.
I guess he is referring to all bounty managers that handling signature campaigns may it be paid by shitcoins or bitcoins.

The thing is even if it lessen or lowered the minimum posts per week this users just post to meet the required quantity without even thinking what they post if spam or off topic. I guess this is a sluggish reason on creating this open letter by just lowering the minimum required posts. Because, if you already know that manager required that x amount, then why bother sent an application in the first place if you find it tiresome to do so?

Exactly. Find a stable job, keep married with it and never bother to apply any sig camps here anymore, it's that simple to do.
newbie
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November 12, 2019, 01:29:40 AM
#61
Well, i'm new member and it's my first post. i have registered here from a bounty program. And i agree, quantity is not quality. 2 or 3 great interventions should be enough, instead of a lot of "nothing".
member
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November 12, 2019, 12:17:05 AM
#60
Making 15 posts a week is not hard as you think if you spend enough time here you would see good topics.  I checked your post history and I see that all of your posts are mostly in altcoin section which is known for spams.
Do you think Chip Mixer participants are performing magic by doing 50 posts per week? NO. They contribute best posts on this forum. If you want discussion that would interest you, visit sections like Project development, Bitcoin Discussion, Beginners & Help.
Bounty managers job is to create rules, it's up to you to accept it.
legendary
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November 11, 2019, 11:43:24 PM
#59
I'm curious if the OP is referring to all managers as "bounty Managers" or if he/she is talking strictly about bounty campaigns? I know for a fact that most companies I manage campaigns for are not going to lower the post count per week to 15 or less and pay users 50-150$ in bitcoin per week.

They may consider splitting people into 2 groups or something, where group 1 would be required to do 10 or so posts per week for 1 amount, and group 2  would be required to do 20+ posts per week for a higher amount of bitcoin per week. I just don't see them lowering the minimums and paying the same amount of money though.

As far as just bounty campaigns go, being as a lot of those users are going to post in the altcoin boards and clutter the hell out of those boards, I could see advocating for lowered weekly minimums for bounty campaigns.

There is a 3rd option here though. You can always go get an actual job and not worry about having to post a weekly minimum on here.
legendary
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November 11, 2019, 11:27:42 PM
#58
Yes, 15 post that means 2 posts per day is not too high to my end as well as for the maximum members I think. And 20-25 posts are moderate. But asking minimum more than 25 posts and pay per post maximum 40-60 posts per week is really helps to increase spams.

On the other hand owners will not pay people for nothing. They also need get enough feedbacks from the community.
member
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November 11, 2019, 12:42:55 PM
#57
If 15posts is way too much for you just find other projects that you can handle, i myself is getting tired of scam bounty projects and good new projects are having hard time to raise funds successfully, i hope that next year 2020 will be different for bounty hunters
sr. member
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November 11, 2019, 11:53:07 AM
#56
Bounty managers you are responsible for flooding this forum with too many posts, either good or spamming, why? because its ridiculous saying bounty hunters must post 15 posts per week

1. Its not every time we will have something to contribute on.
Most times i come on here i only see old posts that i have no interest in at all but due to meeting up with required bounty posts i will be forced to complete them, some posts are so useless or repetitive that you won't want to say a thing

2. This is another way to reduce spammers, few bounty managers i knew of will only request 7 to 10 posts per week which i feel its more than enough, moreover we have too many scam projects in this space already so not every bounty projects have guarantee

Bounty managers please try to adjust
Do you have dreaming with bounty campaign have worth now with pass many kinds bounty less reward and delay distributing? I less hope can reach success with bounty campaign at the future because many ICO not success raise hard cap and raise higher price after listing, investor re think when investing with ICO project at next time.
sr. member
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November 11, 2019, 11:51:18 AM
#55
If you are concerned about the number of posts that appear because of chasing the target of a bounty, I think the admin also understands this, if it is considered spam will definitely be banned by them. Do you consider the admin incompetent? I think it's only natural if someone raises a thread that has been 3 months have passed. If you exceed this limit may be an exception. Because it could also be interesting to comment on someone, not merely wanting to pursue a post. This world will not always be what you want it to be, so get used to it.
sr. member
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November 11, 2019, 11:49:26 AM
#54
Bounty managers you are responsible for flooding this forum with too many posts, either good or spamming, why? because its ridiculous saying bounty hunters must post 15 posts per week

1. Its not every time we will have something to contribute on.
Most times i come on here i only see old posts that i have no interest in at all but due to meeting up with required bounty posts i will be forced to complete them, some posts are so useless or repetitive that you won't want to say a thing

2. This is another way to reduce spammers, few bounty managers i knew of will only request 7 to 10 posts per week which i feel its more than enough, moreover we have too many scam projects in this space already so not every bounty projects have guarantee

Bounty managers please try to adjust
What's wrong with having a maximum of 15 posts per week? You should be lucky to only post with that minimum or maximum post. If you were on a signature campaign i don't think you will last for a week if your perspective is just like that. And how would the bounty manager be able to pay you if you don't want to make a post?

Do you even know what's the purpose of posting and having a required number of post?

A reputable bounty manager know how to handle those shit poster and what's the rules they implement you just have to follow it because they know how to do their work. Not all managers though but some.
sr. member
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November 11, 2019, 11:48:05 AM
#53
I agree, because sometimes I see bounties that require between 15 and 25 posts per week to be eligible for rewards. In my opinion it is silly, especially nowadays, where 90 percent of all bounties cannot even manage to collect their soft cap.
full member
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November 11, 2019, 11:48:00 AM
#52
On Bitcoin payment signature usually, they require a minimum post of 15 to 25 to qualify for the week.  Bounty managers on services are really strict they only accept an applicant with earned merits with quality post it will help both projects for promotions and the forum. It's not really spamming if you are contributing.
Signatures on bounties board usually have 10 post requirements to get stakes and they are not strict even with no merit they accept applicants and some manager's concerns are only post count, not the quality I think that's spamming.
legendary
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November 11, 2019, 11:44:24 AM
#51

bounty managers meant to advertise his project to the world as much as possible they may want a hundred post a day to make it the signature gets noticed and will be clicked by people that landed here in the forum not just by searching google. they wanted exposure. lucky for you they only ask 15 some were asking 20 posts if i remember.  if you are a participant, that means you agreed to the condition before you join.
newbie
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November 11, 2019, 11:38:22 AM
#50
I don't like it either. The way those projects like to be promoted is all about spamming twitter, facebook, linkedin, telegram or this forum with posts and stuff nobody reads or if somebody does, then it is most probably just a few people who are genuinely interested in new ICOs. But let's be honest, most of those projects are so bad, they won't see the light of a real market or they will fail to bring their product to the market as they promised.
hero member
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November 11, 2019, 11:34:46 AM
#49
OP has a point though the post count does not for bounty manager to decide but for the project owners itself, unless the manager have strict rules regarding post count which he/she relay to the team owners. 10 post per week is good but I don't have any problems with 15 post either, as a bounty hunter we should also adjust to this kind of rules since we are getting rewarded for our work.
Besides we have options to either join or not, I remember before there are bounties that require 20-30 post a day, though the payment is quite big before than now and many discussions can be a topic, I'm just telling if we think that project is worth joining and spending time to post 10 or 16 post then join and just follow rules posted by the bounty manager which is approved and maybe idea of the team developers.
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November 11, 2019, 11:30:33 AM
#48
OP has a point though the post count does not for bounty manager to decide but for the project owners itself, unless the manager have strict rules regarding post count which he/she relay to the team owners. 10 post per week is good but I don't have any problems with 15 post either, as a bounty hunter we should also adjust to this kind of rules since we are getting rewarded for our work.
sr. member
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November 11, 2019, 10:51:50 AM
#47
I think to post 10-13 per week is enough for the participants because most bounty managers apply that rules. I remember when there was a bounty campaign that only posted a minimum of 50 posts during the campaign and there were many participants who joined
If requested posts by BM or project team is too low then its really not going to help the project, the reason why we bounty hunters are needed is to create much awareness so any posts requirement should be fulfilled without complains
The rights of the team to demand from bounty hunters to help them reaching more people to invest and support the project. This kind of task
attracts investors once the bounty participants interact with more members using the the bounty campaign codes. It shouldn't be an issue
since the rules has been stated and those interested participants can join or pass out for campaign.
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