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Topic: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ? - page 12. (Read 17092 times)

legendary
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that's... disturbing.  Undecided
unless they do something about that, people will have to rely on a really trusted users from outside of OB.
though that article you quoted doesn't have anything to do with what I said. you don't need to use a moderator to leave a review.

Chicken or egg problem. They have no choice but to have overly permissive access to mod/arbitrator accounts, as potential sellers cannot even build up good feedback scores from buying from other sellers (because no-one has an OB tx history). Think about it: this problem will only have been worse for the early eBay, and their early customers probably solved the problem the same way you're thinking.

Early eBay didn't base its business on anonymity -- the parties involved were (at least in theory) known to a trusted third party called eBay.
Given a choice of trusting Anon from the interweb or a registered business with IRL address and stuff... well... call me a statist corporate sheep, but I feel a touch safer wit eBay Undecided


Yep, you're a statist coporate sheep alright. Do you even Bitcoin? Can you reply without lying/trolling? The answer's "no", isn't it
legendary
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--snipe--

You might just find a good Desktop for sale at opening ceremony of OpenBaazar  Roll Eyes I'd suggest you to go for an assembled Desktop with Ubuntu.
Christ I need to get out more.  I don't even know what Ubuntu is.  Wasn't kidding about being a recluse, and I don't watch TV either and so I don't find out about these things unless I come here.  This section is much nicer than the bitcoin part of bitcointalk.  You guys snipe each other like a mound of bitches but the vibe is much different.
full member
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that's... disturbing.  Undecided
unless they do something about that, people will have to rely on a really trusted users from outside of OB.
though that article you quoted doesn't have anything to do with what I said. you don't need to use a moderator to leave a review.

Chicken or egg problem. They have no choice but to have overly permissive access to mod/arbitrator accounts, as potential sellers cannot even build up good feedback scores from buying from other sellers (because no-one has an OB tx history). Think about it: this problem will only have been worse for the early eBay, and their early customers probably solved the problem the same way you're thinking.

Early eBay didn't base its business on anonymity -- the parties involved were (at least in theory) known to a trusted third party called eBay.
Given a choice of trusting Anon from the interweb or a registered business with IRL address and stuff... well... call me a statist corporate sheep, but I feel a touch safer wit eBay Undecided
legendary
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that's... disturbing.  Undecided
unless they do something about that, people will have to rely on a really trusted users from outside of OB.
though that article you quoted doesn't have anything to do with what I said. you don't need to use a moderator to leave a review.

Chicken or egg problem. They have no choice but to have overly permissive access to mod/arbitrator accounts, as potential sellers cannot even build up good feedback scores from buying from other sellers (because no-one has an OB tx history). Think about it: this problem will only have been worse for the early eBay, and their early customers probably solved the problem the same way you're thinking.
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「きみはこれ&#
--snipe--

You might just find a good Desktop for sale at opening ceremony of OpenBaazar  Roll Eyes I'd suggest you to go for an assembled Desktop with Ubuntu.
legendary
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... b]It only supports bitcoin as its primary payment ...



 Huh

... Ebay is great for that and I still use it, but their fees are fucking outrageous.  I'm sure all of you know that, plus the whole PayPal thing.

I would like to check out OB if/when I get a new desktop computer.

Think of the money you save by not needing a new desktop computer tho Smiley
P.S. You don't have to use PP on eBay you know. http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/choosing-a-payment-method-on-ebay.html
I do thank you for that link, I'll take a look at it tonight.  I don't sell much there because of the fees, but they are super convenient.

I have to get a desktop PC.  Why?  Are they totally out of style now?  It's the only fitting thing for a die-hard recluse, methinks.
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hee-ho.
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that's... disturbing.  Undecided
unless they do something about that, people will have to rely on a really trusted users from outside of OB.
though that article you quoted doesn't have anything to do with what I said. you don't need to use a moderator to leave a review.
legendary
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it's a crap who will end like a crap  Grin
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you have an option to use your local currency as your price. but people still have to pay in btc.

Are you sure? How would this even be enforced?

well I'm not sure how to answer that. I guess it can't be enforced.
but if someone bought something using some other currency outside of OpenBazaar (they only allow btc transaction) they won't be able leave a review because you're only allowed to leave a review when there's a record of the bitcoin transaction (not sure how it works in-depth). ...

Found it.
If you both agree to a price, the client creates a contract between you both with your digital signatures, and sends it to a third party called a moderator. These moderators are also folks on the OpenBazaar network—could be your neighbor or someone across the world—who the buyer and seller trust in case something goes wrong. The third party witnesses the contract and creates a multisignature Bitcoin account (multisig) that requires two of three people to agree before the Bitcoin can be released.

The buyer then sends the agreed upon amount to the multisig address. You get a notification saying the buyer has sent the funds, and you ship the laptop to them and mark that it has been shipped. The buyer receives it a few days later, and they mark it received, which releases the funds from multisig to you. You got your Bitcoin, the buyer got the laptop; no fees paid, no one stopped your trade, everyone’s happy.
What if something goes wrong?

As we all know, things don’t always go smoothly. What if you’re buying a certain book from a seller, you pay the multisig, and they ship you the wrong one, or it was in poorer condition than advertised, or they don’t even send a product at all?

This is where the third party comes in. Remember that a multisig requires two of three people to agree in order to move the Bitcoin. They control the third key to the multisig, so the funds will not move until either the buyer and seller work out an arrangement themselves, or the third party agrees with either the buyer or seller on how to deal with the transaction and funds in multisig.

Note to self:
1. become 100 moderators on OB
2. Sell laptops; send bricks.
3. ? ? ?
4. Profit!
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hee-ho.
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you have an option to use your local currency as your price. but people still have to pay in btc.

Are you sure? How would this even be enforced?

well I'm not sure how to answer that. I guess it can't be enforced.
but if someone bought something using some other currency outside of OpenBazaar (they only allow btc transaction) they won't be able leave a review because you're only allowed to leave a review when there's a record of the bitcoin transaction (not sure how it works in-depth).

snipe

I don't have an option to pay from my currency,it shows bitcoins by default.When I open the app and see the default items on list ,the bitcoin pins I guess,the amount is shown in bitcoins.Not sure if there is a way to modify it.However its better with bitcoins right,anonymous and decentralized.


replace you and your in my post you quoted with the sellers and you'll get what I said.  Wink
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you have an option to use your local currency as your price. but people still have to pay in btc.

Are you sure? How would this even be enforced? By whom?
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「きみはこれ&#
snipe

I don't have an option to pay from my currency,it shows bitcoins by default.When I open the app and see the default items on list ,the bitcoin pins I guess,the amount is shown in bitcoins.Not sure if there is a way to modify it.However its better with bitcoins right,anonymous and decentralized.
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hee-ho.
... b]It only supports bitcoin as its primary payment ...



 Huh

you have an option to use your local currency as your price. but people still have to pay in btc.
full member
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... b]It only supports bitcoin as its primary payment ...



 Huh

... Ebay is great for that and I still use it, but their fees are fucking outrageous.  I'm sure all of you know that, plus the whole PayPal thing.

I would like to check out OB if/when I get a new desktop computer.

Think of the money you save by not needing a new desktop computer tho Smiley
P.S. You don't have to use PP on eBay you know. http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/choosing-a-payment-method-on-ebay.html
legendary
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I have not used it and thus can't make a real comment on it.   What's stopping me from using it at the moment is that I only have my phone for internet--and the whole thing sounds great except for the part about your computer needs to be always running for your store to be open.  That's good for buyers I'm sure, and big sellers, but I would not want to operate that way.  Ebay is great for that and I still use it, but their fees are fucking outrageous.  I'm sure all of you know that, plus the whole PayPal thing.

I would like to check out OB if/when I get a new desktop computer.
hero member
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I think it's deserve a try, that's good to see a open source marketplace supporting Bitcoin as payment method

a] It is a decentralized market place

b]It only supports bitcoin as its primary payment

c]You should be trying the app before commenting here as the title says "first impressions"
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I think it's deserve a try, that's good to see a open source marketplace supporting Bitcoin as payment method
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hee-ho.
Damned thing! It seems I can't even close the software without being connected, which I'm unable to do. There's that full width nav bar on top of the window, but there's nothing on it. I'll have to close it via the Windows' task manager.

Is this still a beta release?


close it from taskbar.


It's not a normal behavior.Did you download the correct application ? System32 is your main system file,deleting which,your computer may never start and result in formatting your driver.However ,I could not make out how come Harddisk space and system 32 has to do with each other ? Are you using a Virtual PC ?

ignore that lunatic. he's a troll.
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I think it's good to see another great decentralized marketplace which support Bitcoin as payment processor; that's will help the bitcoin's community a lot to spread the word about this powerful crypto currency as well
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Then it tries to help me delete system32. Is this normal?

It's not a normal behavior.Did you download the correct application ? System32 is your main system file,deleting which,your computer may never start and result in formatting your driver.However ,I could not make out how come Harddisk space and system 32 has to do with each other ? Are you using a Virtual PC ?
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