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Topic: OPs should be notified when posts are to be "moved or "locked" by the moderator (Read 663 times)

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So you expect the mods to give you notifications for locking or moving your topic, the topic that you yourself just made, your own topic? Isn't it your job to look after your topic, since you are the OP? What's the point of making a topic and later completely forgetting it? Doesn't make sense, mate  Roll Eyes! Mods won't go around locking and moving random topics, if it's in the wrong board or doesn't contain anything of value then it's possible. The only logical notification I see here is when a post gets deleted. It acts as a warning to the user that he may have did something wrong or something like that!

Exactly my point, a moderator don't have to explain himself to an Op for doing his job. We all know the reason why the moderators are there in the first place, so if they do their jobs and move a topic, lock a thread or even delete a post, there is no reason to send to notify anyone about it or give an explanation. If the post had meet the necessary requirements it wouldn't be locked or moved. If you find out your post has been moved or locked, just take it like that and respect the judgement of the moderator. Even if they give a reason for their actions, many people will want to object to the reason they gave, some might even go as far as trying to teach the moderators their jobs. I think everything is better the way it is.
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Would anyone agree with me that before moderator (s) should lock ones thread or moves thread to other board section, the OP should be notified on or before taking the action?
I don't mean where the OP should have to give the moderator a "go-ahead" order before the action
I just saw this, you are making a good point. Although I don't support the OP's to be notified before the action was taken, they should be duly notified when the action has been taken and it should be an automatic message sent so that it will not be a burden to the moderators. This is because moderators are humans, they make judgemental errors at times, this will give the OP fairness to contest it if need be. I've seen people lamenting their posts being moved unawares and I know at least one that was unjustifiably moved and he contested it and won, people even supported him.
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It would be good if there's a telegram bot that notifies you if your post or thread is moved to different board. I also wouldn't mind if it's the same as the deleted post message that we got when a post is deleted. I received notification on my email when one of my post is deleted so if there's something like it would be a good idea. I don't know if it is possible but I can only say that we should ask theymos or powerglove if he can make something to make like what you mentioned about workaround solutions.

Reading the indignation of users, you involuntarily begin to think that people are ready to monetize every word on this forum. Everyone forgot that the forum is, firstly, communication, which should not be forced or obligatory, but the dramas that people build and the indignation that their answers were deleted, and they do not know about it, just make you smile.

There is a simple rule to sleep peacefully: check all your answers the next day. Sometimes we report topics created by the GPT chat, or even the presence of plagiarism, topics that have already collected three or more pages. Moderators sometimes do not block such topics, but simply delete all the answers with the topic as a whole. In this case, there is also a rule: be attentive to the OP of the author of the topic. Sometimes this is the most ordinary fishing for merits, not carrying any novelty, and deleted by moderators without regret. Value yourself, and do not answer in empty topics if you measure your words by their weight in gold.
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Sometimes Mod moves the thread and even when OP is following  up users replies, he is probably not aware that the post made at the specific board is now existing on the other board.
The only way that should be a bother to OP is if they're merely posting in caution to meet up weekly quota in strict compliance to their campaign rules. Otherwise, it shouldn't matter. They started a topic and should be able to respond to the topic, no matter where it's moved to; whether it's part of sections to post in to earn from campaign or not.
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It would be irritating to me if I received messages each time my post are moved or locked by moderators.
Only reason for this messages to be acceptable would be in case if posts get deleted for some reason, and I think we already have that.
I guess some workaround could be found with telegram bots and similar notifications.
It would be good if there's a telegram bot that notifies you if your post or thread is moved to different board. I also wouldn't mind if it's the same as the deleted post message that we got when a post is deleted. I received notification on my email when one of my post is deleted so if there's something like it would be a good idea. I don't know if it is possible but I can only say that we should ask theymos or powerglove if he can make something to make like what you mentioned about workaround solutions.
You know... That moment our posts gets deleted and we also get notification about it, it ignites some tip of warning to be careful on the quality of posts we makes, we get warned to avoid our posts getting deleted and then we gets improved on our post qualities and also mindful of bombastic words that my be inciting either harms or off posts.

This notifications of Moved and Locked Posts is sensible to be implied on this categories whereas it would ignite OPs to categorically push their posts in to the write board.
I have read some tense of quality posts but because it was not posted on the right board, users only passed by and could not respond to it. Only few would tell OP that it is not the right board for the thread so, OP is probably not going to get rightful answers there.

Sometimes Mod moves the thread and even when OP is following  up users replies, he is probably not aware that the post made at the specific board is now existing on the other board.

Also sometimes, OP only visits their own threads when there is a reply notification on the telegram and when users are not responding to the thread, it could probably be that it is being Locked by the Mod due to post qualities or it has probably had numerous replies which maybe leading users to spam. So I think it is also necessary if we can get this as part of the forums automatic notification feature in the forum bar section as implied on deleted threads.

It is really necessary to have our threads on track when being reshaped or tampered by Mod or anyone else.
The workaround has been a techniques to keeping updates of threads as OP though but don't we think it is stressful and will be more convenient for users if these notifications is automatic? My thoughts though.
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It would be irritating to me if I received messages each time my post are moved or locked by moderators.
Only reason for this messages to be acceptable would be in case if posts get deleted for some reason, and I think we already have that.
I guess some workaround could be found with telegram bots and similar notifications.
It would be good if there's a telegram bot that notifies you if your post or thread is moved to different board. I also wouldn't mind if it's the same as the deleted post message that we got when a post is deleted. I received notification on my email when one of my post is deleted so if there's something like it would be a good idea. I don't know if it is possible but I can only say that we should ask theymos or powerglove if he can make something to make like what you mentioned about workaround solutions.
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To avoid this issue, if your quota is 25 posts, it’s a good idea to aim for 27 posts as a buffer. This way, if any posts are moved to "off-topic" and no longer count, you still have a backup to meet your quota.
I understand the area you are heading to, but sometimes it's not just about post quota being reached; it could also be about putting so much effort into creating a thread that the OP might be expecting a lot of discussion on them, but because of the content, which might lack the information needed to keep it going, it got moved to off topic. If the OP of such a thread doesn't go through their post history, they will never notice such a change has occurred on their post. I believe this is the area the OP is trying to point at.
We do find the "Off Topic" section as inferior or a childish board which worthless quality posts are being moved on for discussion. This is an assumption of every OPs trying to make communicable threads but not having it as thought feels discouraging when replies are not flowing and we know most forum users keeps off from Off Topic threads.

So you imagine realizing this course is only when the OP only have an option of going through their post histories meanwhile... If the forum can get a notification feature that can automatically alert the OP of the post being Moved or Locked, I am sure it would serve a better and friendly notation.
Perhaps... There are beginners who might not have been tracking their posts on telegram to have that caption as well.

This ideal is not just to help users on forum campaigns on post counts but a flexibility to denote when your post as an OP is being tampered by a third party.
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if you don't want your thread to be moved then create them in the more appropriate boards.

Experienced forum users wouldn't create topics in the wrong sections. Still, primarily, newbies do, and getting their topics moved without them noticing it or realizing what happened can sometimes get confusing. I believe automated notifications through PM can be helpful in such situations.

that'll take alot of coding and more expenses on the forum which isn't an urgent problem that the forum should be tackling.

I don't know whether it will take a lot of coding, but as far as I know, @PowerGlove doesn't get paid for the patches he does for the forum.  Roll Eyes

If a mod locks a thread, can OP of that thread be able to unlock it?

I don't see where that comes from. OP can't unlock a thread when it has been locked right now, and that wouldn't change even if what's being discussed here is implemented. It is only going to notify the OP about the topic getting locked and possibly the reason for it.
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Sometimes I see moved threads have link to the new place the thread was moved to. That is a nice gesture but it doesn't happen often. Is it that it's always at the discretion of the moderator to include such a helpful link. If all moderators leave such a link, it will solve a problem of confusion, especially to the newbies who might not understand how the forum works.
The Mods are going to "Move" or "Lock" it anyway. What would be the point of notifying the OP?
So he can object to the action by the mods? I don't get it.

Probably not for objecting to the move, but just as a status notification so that the OP knows where the new board of the thread is going to be. It could be an email or a personal message. Or maybe both. But it would have to be configurable from settings. And it's not going to be happening unless someone submits a patch for it, apparently.
If a mod locks a thread, can OP of that thread be able to unlock it?
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However, having said that I wouldn't be against having some sort of automated system, which messages users where it has been moved. Although, I'm not sure if that would become irritating to regular users.
It would be irritating to me if I received messages each time my post are moved or locked by moderators.
Only reason for this messages to be acceptable would be in case if posts get deleted for some reason, and I think we already have that.
I guess some workaround could be found with telegram bots and similar notifications.
Of what essence is it to even notify you that your post has been moved when you can see it through your profile?

Of what essence to notify you that your post is locked since you can no longer write on it?

For deletion, it is understandable because you might want to take actions and that is enough. I agree with you, there'll be too much of notifications.

I also support for the normal one which we are all used to receive notification about, which is when a post is being deleted, but i don't see much need for a post being moved or lock and the OP being notified of it, there must be a reason for that, except if the ninjastic thread could be able to make an additional task as features regarding this, that members can be notified through their telegram notifier bot on that, else, there is no need for having notification on any of such from my own opinion.
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I understand the area you are heading to, but sometimes it's not just about post quota being reached; it could also be about putting so much effort into creating a thread that the OP might be expecting a lot of discussion on them, but because of the content, which might lack the information needed to keep it going, it got moved to off topic. If the OP of such a thread doesn't go through their post history, they will never notice such a change has occurred on their post. I believe this is the area the OP is trying to point at.

Sometimes after so much effort put in making a post, it is either moved or deleted. I know exactly how it feels from the ops perspective, and at the same time, the moderators have to look at the content, which is exactly what will determine if the post should stay or be deleted. In a case like this, both parties are just playing their roles, so there is no need for everyone to have a better understanding, especially the op. I don't believe the moderator will delete relevant information, thus I agree with you, and if there is consistent checking, anyone may have seen changes in the thread.
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The Mods are going to "Move" or "Lock" it anyway. What would be the point of notifying the OP?
So he can object to the action by the mods? I don't get it.

Probably not for objecting to the move, but just as a status notification so that the OP knows where the new board of the thread is going to be. It could be an email or a personal message. Or maybe both. But it would have to be configurable from settings. And it's not going to be happening unless someone submits a patch for it, apparently.
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Would anyone agree with me that before moderator (s) should lock ones thread or moves thread to other board section, the OP should be notified on or before taking the action?

I don't think it's necessarily, if you don't want your thread to be moved then create them in the more appropriate boards. From your post history, you can see where your threads are so no need for all this unless maybe the notification will be automated but again that'll take alot of coding and more expenses on the forum which isn't an urgent problem that the forum should be tackling. It gets frustrating at times when our threads get move to boards that we didn't post them but a moderator moving your thread there would be the right decision 9 out of 10 times.
I concur with you on having our threads at the appropriate board section but the question is... Do we also believe our threads would be deleted before moderators take them down if have to? I am sure it is NO.

So having our threads on the wrong boards could also be unintentional and having our threads locked by the Mods is also users expectations unless we know the quality and contents of thread may only be of inquiries which if we are satisfied with members helpful response, it can be locked so that it doesn't have to unnecessarily flood the board with it does not have further impacts.

I also understand that it could take a long while for the forum authorities/developers to implement this request request but it should be agreed that even as how uneasy task this may be, it is still commendable if we can make helpful reviews to what is needed in the forum.
Perhaps, we all need flexibility and a friendly forum interface with users.
My thought though.
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Would anyone agree with me that before moderator (s) should lock ones thread or moves thread to other board section, the OP should be notified on or before taking the action?
I don't mean where the OP should have to give the moderator a "go-ahead" order before the action but It should be as when our post is deleted and we are being notified about it on the message box.
That would so much create a visible awareness about our posts when moderately tampered.
Great idea tho, it’s just another form of informing the user first and I understand the part whereby a go ahead is not needed. The mods know what to do and they don’t need any permission it’s understandable, just a quick question, after moving a topic without informing the op they still find out right? How long does it take before finding out and sometimes posting without knowing the appropriate board is normal I guess if this rule is implemented few will understand where different post belongs seeing previous text, if I may ask what should this notification contain I mean the context.
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Would anyone agree with me that before moderator (s) should lock ones thread or moves thread to other board section, the OP should be notified on or before taking the action?
I don't mean where the OP should have to give the moderator a "go-ahead" order before the action but It should be as when our post is deleted and we are being notified about it on the message box.
That would so much create a visible awareness about our posts when moderately tampered.
I think we are always notified when post are moved to other board section through the notification bots, but however, we shouldn't feel so bad when our post are being move to other boards. The main focused should be that our post should be moved to the right section if we don't actually moved them to right board and I wouldn't see this as an offense or violation because we didn't know where our post should be, though it's a nice idea we get notified when our post is moved even without the notification bots as least with the pm notice it would be more better.
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Would anyone agree with me that before moderator (s) should lock ones thread or moves thread to other board section, the OP should be notified on or before taking the action?

I don't think it's necessarily, if you don't want your thread to be moved then create them in the more appropriate boards. From your post history, you can see where your threads are so no need for all this unless maybe the notification will be automated but again that'll take alot of coding and more expenses on the forum which isn't an urgent problem that the forum should be tackling. It gets frustrating at times when our threads get move to boards that we didn't post them but a moderator moving your thread there would be the right decision 9 out of 10 times.
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i tend to agree with you on this one... We've got enough notifying means already... The colored badge, the description that even a newbie would understand... What else?
Op, I think the system is perfect the way it is and doesn't need any more advancement as you may have it... We all know that the only reason why we're usually notified when our post is deleted is to keep us sober. If I'm getting 'em pms coming in too frequently, I'd just feel I'm beginning to drop my quality.

This is not some stylistic change.
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TBH...
The thing is, people will ALWAYS wanna participate in everything that goes on in here...Moreso, It becomes a sort of competition -- plus the fact that Gloves made an open appeal to anyone that sees a need for a readjustment on the forum's SMF patch.
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So you expect the mods to give you notifications for locking or moving your topic, the topic that you yourself just made, your own topic? Isn't it your job to look after your topic, since you are the OP? What's the point of making a topic and later completely forgetting it? Doesn't make sense, mate  Roll Eyes! Mods won't go around locking and moving random topics, if it's in the wrong board or doesn't contain anything of value then it's possible. The only logical notification I see here is when a post gets deleted. It acts as a warning to the user that he may have did something wrong or something like that!

The notification sent to a user when one of their posts is deleted isn't manual but automated. So, moderators don't need to send manual notifications to users if they lock or move a topic. It can be automated as well, and it can also be logical and helpful if a PM or email is sent to the user containing a note written by the mod who did it to let the user know why the action has been taken.

I don't see anything wrong with that. If we can have an automated notification for a deleted post, we can have them for moved and locked topics, and there is no harm in that.

Since moving a topic doesn't need any explanation or a reason for a user, as we all know, topics are moved when they don't belong to a section. Still, when it comes to locking issues, a reason from a mod to be sent to the user would also act as a warning or at least give a hint for why the topic has been locked, and the same thing shouldn't be repeated.

So, the implementation should ask a moderator why they are locking a topic, which should be included in the notification sent to the user. That's it.
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Very nice suggestion and I think this is similar to that thread made by PowerGlove in the thread Determining a topic's lock-type (SMF patch)
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Right at the implementation of this context, forum members can be able to identify if it was a Mod or a Topic Starter of the thread that locked it. Some may see this irrelevant but think it is necessary if this forum must run on transparency as been.

In that of Locking and Moving thread notifications would also serve users better to be aware when their posts are being Moved or Locked probably by the Mod.
This section would play crucial roles for users with daily or weekly tasks with a specific number of posts to make in the forum maybe in some certain boards so that they don't get missed out while thinking they have made their posts on the right tracks.
Verily, it would help members in the signature campaigns to note when their posts have been moved to other board probably not an expected board like those of gambling posts that are majorly moved to off topic board after making your post counts on the gambling board.
It really feels awful hopefully that you have just replied to a relevant post but unknowingly the quality of the post is seemed substandard or irrelevant which could lead to post moved without compliers awareness not until they would have to go through their Posts profile before being aware of it and that seems much complex.
Obviously if user can get notifications signals at such state, it would be better.
I would suggest the Lock Notification should be on the OP signal alone as a privilege of starting up a topic while users have to visit the thread before seeing it Locked as obvious as that mentioned by PowerGlove
Then Moved topic notification should signal both Op and others who has made replies on the topic.
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Would anyone agree with me that before moderator (s) should lock ones thread or moves thread to other board section, the OP should be notified on or before taking the action?
I don't mean where the OP should have to give the moderator a "go-ahead" order before the action but It should be as when our post is deleted and we are being notified about it on the message box.
That would so much create a visible awareness about our posts when moderately tampered.

Why do you think some topics or threads are being locked, its either they are spamming or have already been discussed, while in some occasions, some topics have low quality contents and could not portray the standard to a quality post on the required board.

On the other hand, some users will create a topic and never visited the thread again because they are just doing that for nothing sake, while such thread should have been locked after receiving the necessary reply needed in other to avoid spamming the forum, i will end this aspect by saying that if a post really worth of a quality standard and is on the right board, don't even think about the thread getting locked, except otherwise, then why should one be notify on a locked thread, when there are many other notifications more important we are already receiving in their numbers.
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