Topic: OPs should be notified when posts are to be "moved or "locked" by the moderator (Read 387 times)

I concur with you on having our threads at the appropriate board section but the question is... Do we also believe our threads would be deleted before moderators take them down if have to? I am sure it is NO.

So having our threads on the wrong boards could also be unintentional and having our threads locked by the Mods is also users expectations unless we know the quality and contents of thread may only be of inquiries which if we are satisfied with members helpful response, it can be locked so that it doesn't have to unnecessarily flood the board with it does not have further impacts.

I also understand that it could take a long while for the forum authorities/developers to implement this request request but it should be agreed that even as how uneasy task this may be, it is still commendable if we can make helpful reviews to what is needed in the forum.
Perhaps, we all need flexibility and a friendly forum interface with users.
My thought though.

Great idea tho, it’s just another form of informing the user first and I understand the part whereby a go ahead is not needed. The mods know what to do and they don’t need any permission it’s understandable, just a quick question, after moving a topic without informing the op they still find out right? How long does it take before finding out and sometimes posting without knowing the appropriate board is normal I guess if this rule is implemented few will understand where different post belongs seeing previous text, if I may ask what should this notification contain I mean the context.

I think we are always notified when post are moved to other board section through the notification bots, but however, we shouldn't feel so bad when our post are being move to other boards. The main focused should be that our post should be moved to the right section if we don't actually moved them to right board and I wouldn't see this as an offense or violation because we didn't know where our post should be, though it's a nice idea we get notified when our post is moved even without the notification bots as least with the pm notice it would be more better.

I don't think it's necessarily, if you don't want your thread to be moved then create them in the more appropriate boards. From your post history, you can see where your threads are so no need for all this unless maybe the notification will be automated but again that'll take alot of coding and more expenses on the forum which isn't an urgent problem that the forum should be tackling. It gets frustrating at times when our threads get move to boards that we didn't post them but a moderator moving your thread there would be the right decision 9 out of 10 times.

i tend to agree with you on this one... We've got enough notifying means already... The colored badge, the description that even a newbie would understand... What else?
Op, I think the system is perfect the way it is and doesn't need any more advancement as you may have it... We all know that the only reason why we're usually notified when our post is deleted is to keep us sober. If I'm getting 'em pms coming in too frequently, I'd just feel I'm beginning to drop my quality.

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TBH...
The thing is, people will ALWAYS wanna participate in everything that goes on in here...Moreso, It becomes a sort of competition -- plus the fact that Gloves made an open appeal to anyone that sees a need for a readjustment on the forum's SMF patch.

The notification sent to a user when one of their posts is deleted isn't manual but automated. So, moderators don't need to send manual notifications to users if they lock or move a topic. It can be automated as well, and it can also be logical and helpful if a PM or email is sent to the user containing a note written by the mod who did it to let the user know why the action has been taken.

I don't see anything wrong with that. If we can have an automated notification for a deleted post, we can have them for moved and locked topics, and there is no harm in that.

Since moving a topic doesn't need any explanation or a reason for a user, as we all know, topics are moved when they don't belong to a section. Still, when it comes to locking issues, a reason from a mod to be sent to the user would also act as a warning or at least give a hint for why the topic has been locked, and the same thing shouldn't be repeated.

So, the implementation should ask a moderator why they are locking a topic, which should be included in the notification sent to the user. That's it.

Very nice suggestion and I think this is similar to that thread made by PowerGlove in the thread Determining a topic's lock-type (SMF patch)
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Right at the implementation of this context, forum members can be able to identify if it was a Mod or a Topic Starter of the thread that locked it. Some may see this irrelevant but think it is necessary if this forum must run on transparency as been.

In that of Locking and Moving thread notifications would also serve users better to be aware when their posts are being Moved or Locked probably by the Mod.
This section would play crucial roles for users with daily or weekly tasks with a specific number of posts to make in the forum maybe in some certain boards so that they don't get missed out while thinking they have made their posts on the right tracks.
Verily, it would help members in the signature campaigns to note when their posts have been moved to other board probably not an expected board like those of gambling posts that are majorly moved to off topic board after making your post counts on the gambling board.
It really feels awful hopefully that you have just replied to a relevant post but unknowingly the quality of the post is seemed substandard or irrelevant which could lead to post moved without compliers awareness not until they would have to go through their Posts profile before being aware of it and that seems much complex.
Obviously if user can get notifications signals at such state, it would be better.
I would suggest the Lock Notification should be on the OP signal alone as a privilege of starting up a topic while users have to visit the thread before seeing it Locked as obvious as that mentioned by PowerGlove
Then Moved topic notification should signal both Op and others who has made replies on the topic.

Why do you think some topics or threads are being locked, its either they are spamming or have already been discussed, while in some occasions, some topics have low quality contents and could not portray the standard to a quality post on the required board.

On the other hand, some users will create a topic and never visited the thread again because they are just doing that for nothing sake, while such thread should have been locked after receiving the necessary reply needed in other to avoid spamming the forum, i will end this aspect by saying that if a post really worth of a quality standard and is on the right board, don't even think about the thread getting locked, except otherwise, then why should one be notify on a locked thread, when there are many other notifications more important we are already receiving in their numbers.

So you expect the mods to give you notifications for locking or moving your topic, the topic that you yourself just made, your own topic? Isn't it your job to look after your topic, since you are the OP? What's the point of making a topic and later completely forgetting it? Doesn't make sense, mate  ! Mods won't go around locking and moving random topics, if it's in the wrong board or doesn't contain anything of value then it's possible. The only logical notification I see here is when a post gets deleted. It acts as a warning to the user that he may have did something wrong or something like that!

At all ramifications, you have made valid points and that seems the moderators is acting friendly with the users having the time to let the OP of the thread in some ways on while the Moving or Locking of the threads action is being carried out.

In my opinion, I other to save moderators that stress, I think the system such apartment such be automated which means the signal should come on the notification box. That is aside from users being DMed or PMed.

Just as made obvious that it would help unknowledgeable users such as beginner users of the forum a lot and that as well would some points aligns the user to under that there are specific sub-boards that is basically for a specific discussion after learning the "Moved" of their thread because we have seen users making threads and appealing they don't know if the board is the right place to post the thread.
Also detailed as action of users spamming or some sorts of irrelevant or outdated threads being "Locked".

Maximizing a deep thought of this would sure seem lot of meaningful benefits for users.

You were the one who is getting everything wrong here. I didn't say Powerglove had patched the ops suggesting; rather, I was correcting a member above, which, assuming you paid much attention and didn't remove that part from the content you picked and quoted, you could have understood my statement.

Check my full comment below:

No, the PowerGlow latest patch differs from what the OP is suggesting; the PowerGlow patch only determines who locks a topic, whereas the OP proposes receiving an inbox notification when topics move, similar to how we received messages on deleted posts. If it doesn't require too much work from the admin, I think it's a nice idea.


Haven't we seen enough changes being implemented since last year already? From "OP" indicator to 2fa and now determining a topic locks function. It's getting better

Of what essence is it to even notify you that your post has been moved when you can see it through your profile?

Of what essence to notify you that your post is locked since you can no longer write on it?

For deletion, it is understandable because you might want to take actions and that is enough. I agree with you, there'll be too much of notifications.

I understand the area you are heading to, but sometimes it's not just about post quota being reached; it could also be about putting so much effort into creating a thread that the OP might be expecting a lot of discussion on them, but because of the content, which might lack the information needed to keep it going, it got moved to off topic. If the OP of such a thread doesn't go through their post history, they will never notice such a change has occurred on their post. I believe this is the area the OP is trying to point at.

If I'm not mistaken, the reason for this post was triggered by our signature campaign requirements or our post quota that needs to be counted. Because once a topic is moved to "off-topic," it no longer counts toward your signature campaign post count. So if you’re unaware that your post has been moved, the possible outcome is that you won’t be paid for that post. Thankfully, there are some managers who give consideration in these situations, but what if they don't? If you don’t meet your quota because of this, then all your hard work goes to waste.

To avoid this issue, if your quota is 25 posts, it’s a good idea to aim for 27 posts as a buffer. This way, if any posts are moved to "off-topic" and no longer count, you still have a backup to meet your quota.

OP already gave a reason and that is;
It would be more transparent as user puts it but, what’s the transparency there? Is it that the thread having to move from a board to another as with the current system isn’t transparent?
Or perhaps, the thread doesn’t really suit in the board it’s been moved to by context or arguments in the thread itself?

I’m sorry brother @OP but, even I know too well that threads are hardly moved on the forum and the few times you find threads being moved, it’s really for a purpose of haven’t found itself on the wrong board. However, you could always find the directions on the outline just below your profile dashboard or particular post. Having to notify you don’t change a thing since, there isn’t anything you could do about it.
The mods have tons of work already, save them this one or even still, save the system this patch.

It makes sense having to define the purpose of the delete alert system this way!

It would be irritating to me if I received messages each time my post are moved or locked by moderators.
Only reason for this messages to be acceptable would be in case if posts get deleted for some reason, and I think we already have that.
I guess some workaround could be found with telegram bots and similar notifications.

When it's somewhat complex or not immediately obvious I have messaged users previously when moving a thread with a quick explanation or if I suspect they might not know how the forum works exactly, e.g someone who might not know how to check their post history to see where it has moved. I don't think every single thread that is moved though requires an explanation sometimes it's something straight forward, and its not that big of a deal.

However, sometimes when moving threads some moderators do include a little note when leaving a redirection thread. Whether moderators personal message a user or leave a redirection thread is case specific, and ultimately comes down to moderator discretion.

However, having said that I wouldn't be against having some sort of automated system, which messages users where it has been moved. Although, I'm not sure if that would become irritating to regular users.

I think everyone has got a post deleted every so often. Sometimes it just happens because other posts you were engaging with were removed. It's also easy to get off topic every so often especially when an interested topic comes up, but ultimately ends up getting way off topic. Getting the odd post deleted doesn't mean that you're a poor quality user, just means you're human.

Is this something that can even be added with a PHP patch? I know the entire forum is written in PHP, but for someone to write this, they need to have access to the entire forum's source code (which is something that PowerGlove seems to have for instance) - you can't just download the PHP file and view it raw.

The email address has to be pulled from the database and a new message composed. This is not some stylistic change.

People that spam the forum and get many of their posts deleted by a moderator and get notified for it are not worth the notification. If their posts are deleted more than 50 times, they will be notified that their posts have been deleted. Each posts deleted would be notified. So what makes getting notifications for move and locked topic different? In my opinion, it is better. It is a good idea if we have it.