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Topic: OPs should be notified when posts are to be "moved or "locked" by the moderator - page 2. (Read 652 times)

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So you expect the mods to give you notifications for locking or moving your topic, the topic that you yourself just made, your own topic? Isn't it your job to look after your topic, since you are the OP? What's the point of making a topic and later completely forgetting it? Doesn't make sense, mate  Roll Eyes! Mods won't go around locking and moving random topics, if it's in the wrong board or doesn't contain anything of value then it's possible. The only logical notification I see here is when a post gets deleted. It acts as a warning to the user that he may have did something wrong or something like that!
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When it's somewhat complex or not immediately obvious I have messaged users previously when moving a thread with a quick explanation or if I suspect they might not know how the forum works exactly, e.g someone who might not know how to check their post history to see where it has moved. I don't think every single thread that is moved though requires an explanation sometimes it's something straight forward, and its not that big of a deal.

However, sometimes when moving threads some moderators do include a little note when leaving a redirection thread. Whether moderators personal message a user or leave a redirection thread is case specific, and ultimately comes down to moderator discretion.

However, having said that I wouldn't be against having some sort of automated system, which messages users where it has been moved. Although, I'm not sure if that would become irritating to regular users.

People that spam the forum and get many of their posts deleted by a moderator and get notified for it are not worth the notification. If their posts are deleted more than 50 times, they will be notified that their posts have been deleted. Each posts deleted would be notified. So what makes getting notifications for move and locked topic different? In my opinion, it is better. It is a good idea if we have it.
I think everyone has got a post deleted every so often. Sometimes it just happens because other posts you were engaging with were removed. It's also easy to get off topic every so often especially when an interested topic comes up, but ultimately ends up getting way off topic. Getting the odd post deleted doesn't mean that you're a poor quality user, just means you're human.
At all ramifications, you have made valid points and that seems the moderators is acting friendly with the users having the time to let the OP of the thread in some ways on while the Moving or Locking of the threads action is being carried out.

In my opinion, I other to save moderators that stress, I think the system such apartment such be automated which means the signal should come on the notification box. That is aside from users being DMed or PMed.

Just as made obvious that it would help unknowledgeable users such as beginner users of the forum a lot and that as well would some points aligns the user to under that there are specific sub-boards that is basically for a specific discussion after learning the "Moved" of their thread because we have seen users making threads and appealing they don't know if the board is the right place to post the thread.
Also detailed as action of users spamming or some sorts of irrelevant or outdated threads being "Locked".

Maximizing a deep thought of this would sure seem lot of meaningful benefits for users.
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Which @PowerGlove have provided a solution to it here Determining a topic's lock-type (SMF patch) and the change was one of the fastest to be implemented by the administrator..
No, the PowerGlow latest patch differs from what the OP is suggesting; the PowerGlow patch only determines who locks a topic, whereas the OP proposes receiving an inbox notification when topics move, similar to how we received messages on deleted posts. If it doesn't require too much work from the admin, I think it's a nice idea.

You were the one who is getting everything wrong here. I didn't say Powerglove had patched the ops suggesting; rather, I was correcting a member above, which, assuming you paid much attention and didn't remove that part from the content you picked and quoted, you could have understood my statement.

Check my full comment below:

This issue has been raised before, I can't find the thread but someone already said something about OP's to be notified before threads are moved or locked and the reason for the action by moderators.
What the OP means and the thread you are referring to are two different things. I believe you are pointing at this thread . Should moderators make a post to justify why they locked a thread?

Which @PowerGlove have provided a solution to it here Determining a topic's lock-type (SMF patch) and the change was one of the fastest to be implemented by the administrator..
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Which @PowerGlove have provided a solution to it here Determining a topic's lock-type (SMF patch) and the change was one of the fastest to be implemented by the administrator..

No, the PowerGlow latest patch differs from what the OP is suggesting; the PowerGlow patch only determines who locks a topic, whereas the OP proposes receiving an inbox notification when topics move, similar to how we received messages on deleted posts. If it doesn't require too much work from the admin, I think it's a nice idea.

The suggestion is good but the million dollar question is when will any update be implemented in the forum? We will need to wait or have someone make the code.

Haven't we seen enough changes being implemented since last year already? From "OP" indicator to 2fa and now determining a topic locks function. It's getting better
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However, having said that I wouldn't be against having some sort of automated system, which messages users where it has been moved. Although, I'm not sure if that would become irritating to regular users.
It would be irritating to me if I received messages each time my post are moved or locked by moderators.
Only reason for this messages to be acceptable would be in case if posts get deleted for some reason, and I think we already have that.
I guess some workaround could be found with telegram bots and similar notifications.
Of what essence is it to even notify you that your post has been moved when you can see it through your profile?

Of what essence to notify you that your post is locked since you can no longer write on it?

For deletion, it is understandable because you might want to take actions and that is enough. I agree with you, there'll be too much of notifications.
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To avoid this issue, if your quota is 25 posts, it’s a good idea to aim for 27 posts as a buffer. This way, if any posts are moved to "off-topic" and no longer count, you still have a backup to meet your quota.
I understand the area you are heading to, but sometimes it's not just about post quota being reached; it could also be about putting so much effort into creating a thread that the OP might be expecting a lot of discussion on them, but because of the content, which might lack the information needed to keep it going, it got moved to off topic. If the OP of such a thread doesn't go through their post history, they will never notice such a change has occurred on their post. I believe this is the area the OP is trying to point at.
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If I'm not mistaken, the reason for this post was triggered by our signature campaign requirements or our post quota that needs to be counted. Because once a topic is moved to "off-topic," it no longer counts toward your signature campaign post count. So if you’re unaware that your post has been moved, the possible outcome is that you won’t be paid for that post. Thankfully, there are some managers who give consideration in these situations, but what if they don't? If you don’t meet your quota because of this, then all your hard work goes to waste.

To avoid this issue, if your quota is 25 posts, it’s a good idea to aim for 27 posts as a buffer. This way, if any posts are moved to "off-topic" and no longer count, you still have a backup to meet your quota.
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The Mods are going to "Move" or "Lock" it anyway. What would be the point of notifying the OP?
So he can object to the action by the mods? I don't get it.
OP already gave a reason and that is;
It would be more transparent as user puts it but, what’s the transparency there? Is it that the thread having to move from a board to another as with the current system isn’t transparent?
Or perhaps, the thread doesn’t really suit in the board it’s been moved to by context or arguments in the thread itself?

I’m sorry brother @OP but, even I know too well that threads are hardly moved on the forum and the few times you find threads being moved, it’s really for a purpose of haven’t found itself on the wrong board. However, you could always find the directions on the outline just below your profile dashboard or particular post. Having to notify you don’t change a thing since, there isn’t anything you could do about it.
The mods have tons of work already, save them this one or even still, save the system this patch.

As for deleting the topic… I think it helps alert the poster not to spam or do the same mistake again. It's sort of a warning to the poster.
It makes sense having to define the purpose of the delete alert system this way!
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However, having said that I wouldn't be against having some sort of automated system, which messages users where it has been moved. Although, I'm not sure if that would become irritating to regular users.
It would be irritating to me if I received messages each time my post are moved or locked by moderators.
Only reason for this messages to be acceptable would be in case if posts get deleted for some reason, and I think we already have that.
I guess some workaround could be found with telegram bots and similar notifications.
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When it's somewhat complex or not immediately obvious I have messaged users previously when moving a thread with a quick explanation or if I suspect they might not know how the forum works exactly, e.g someone who might not know how to check their post history to see where it has moved. I don't think every single thread that is moved though requires an explanation sometimes it's something straight forward, and its not that big of a deal.

However, sometimes when moving threads some moderators do include a little note when leaving a redirection thread. Whether moderators personal message a user or leave a redirection thread is case specific, and ultimately comes down to moderator discretion.

However, having said that I wouldn't be against having some sort of automated system, which messages users where it has been moved. Although, I'm not sure if that would become irritating to regular users.

People that spam the forum and get many of their posts deleted by a moderator and get notified for it are not worth the notification. If their posts are deleted more than 50 times, they will be notified that their posts have been deleted. Each posts deleted would be notified. So what makes getting notifications for move and locked topic different? In my opinion, it is better. It is a good idea if we have it.
I think everyone has got a post deleted every so often. Sometimes it just happens because other posts you were engaging with were removed. It's also easy to get off topic every so often especially when an interested topic comes up, but ultimately ends up getting way off topic. Getting the odd post deleted doesn't mean that you're a poor quality user, just means you're human.
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Is this something that can even be added with a PHP patch? I know the entire forum is written in PHP, but for someone to write this, they need to have access to the entire forum's source code (which is something that PowerGlove seems to have for instance) - you can't just download the PHP file and view it raw.

The email address has to be pulled from the database and a new message composed. This is not some stylistic change.
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A user who engages in the topic he created/posted will realize that it has been locked or moved in the shortest time possible. People who make posts and then forget them don't deserve any reminder, to be honest.
People that spam the forum and get many of their posts deleted by a moderator and get notified for it are not worth the notification. If their posts are deleted more than 50 times, they will be notified that their posts have been deleted. Each posts deleted would be notified. So what makes getting notifications for move and locked topic different? In my opinion, it is better. It is a good idea if we have it.
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The suggestion is good but the million dollar question is when will any update be implemented in the forum? We will need to wait or have someone make the code.

right, we have been waiting for years for the new forum, and besides the merit update i don't think we got any other big update afaik except the patches from @PowerGlove
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Would anyone agree with me that before moderator (s) should lock ones thread or moves thread to other board section, the OP should be notified on or before taking the action?
Your posts can only be moved to forum trash bin. You will receive notifications when your posts were deleted by moderators, except is if moderator trashed all that thread including your posts in it.

Your threads can be moved to either another board or a trash bin too. In this case it is a thread movement to another board, and you will see it when you click on your Profile, then Show the last topics started by this person.

For example with this moved thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/moved-microstrategys-bitcoin-portfolio-surpasses-20b-roi-now-over-100-5517807

You will see.
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In addition, it is shown in a topic title too with MOVED: and grey color.
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   MOVED: MicroStrategy’s Bitcoin portfolio surpasses $20B, ROI now over 100%
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In many cases the people who create Megatopics are spammers and they don't care much if the topic is closed or moved. The suggestion is good but the million dollar question is when will any update be implemented in the forum? We will need to wait or have someone make the code.
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The Mods are going to "Move" or "Lock" it anyway. What would be the point of notifying the OP?
So he can object to the action by the mods? I don't get it.

I don't think the OP means it in that way. It's not like he wants the mod to take permission or ask for his permission but he just wants it in a way that he will know that his topic has been moved to another board.
I don't think the mods need to notify the OP while moving a topic, but I think the telegram bot should notify the OP, if it doesn't already do that.
I don't think its a big deal anyway.
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Would anyone agree with me that before moderator (s) should lock ones thread or moves thread to other board section, the OP should be notified on or before taking the action?
I don't mean where the OP should have to give the moderator a "go-ahead" order before the action but It should be as when our post is deleted and we are being notified about it on the message box.
That would so much create a visible awareness about our posts when moderately tampered.
Very  nice idea, because even the telegram notification bots doesn't alart ops when his topic have been moved by moderators, adding this feature to bitcointalk will improve things alot at least ops will always be notified to know where and when his topic have been moved.

The essence of all this is not to less the work of moving a thread for the moderators or even the ops himself, but to create that awareness for the ops whenever the moderator does the job for them, instead discovering that your topic have been move only when you visit the thread manually for your posts history.

If possibly it should be an email notification I stead telegram bot notification, since telegram forum notifyer is somewhat a third party bot, but email notifications is forum setting features.
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The Mods are going to "Move" or "Lock" it anyway. What would be the point of notifying the OP?
So he can object to the action by the mods? I don't get it.
Like I obviously said as quoted
I don't mean where the OP should have to give the moderator a "go-ahead" order before the action
The moderator is not taking order from the OP before taking the action but just think the OP needed to eh notified


As for deleting the topic… I think it helps alert the poster not to spam or do the same mistake again. It's sort of a warning to the poster.
Yes I agree with you that notification on deleted posts plays an important role or correction to the poster, but if you check the one on Locking and Moving thread it would also help the poster to that the post has become irrelevant that is why it has to be locked it was not posted on the right board.

That definitely would help users on their post qualities and rightful place it should be posted.
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I think it would make some relative sense receiving a notification message about ones thread been moved by the moderator to another board just it's done with deleted post.
Am not sure some real newbies do have a clue why their thread got moved to another board away from they one originally had it created, but with such notifications it could draw their attention  and enlighten them better without them having to wonder why their thread got moved.

 But I doubt admin will take this suggestion serious anyway.

This issue has been raised before, I can't find the thread but someone already said something about OP's to be notified before threads are moved or locked and the reason for the action by moderators.
What the OP means and the thread you are referring to are two different things. I believe you are pointing at this thread . Should moderators make a post to justify why they locked a thread?
Yea, obviously the difference is clear between the subjects of the two thread's. Probably @Churchillvv didn't critical take a notice on the difference before concluding about that.
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The Mods are going to "Move" or "Lock" it anyway. What would be the point of notifying the OP?
So he can object to the action by the mods? I don't get it.

As for deleting the topic… I think it helps alert the poster not to spam or do the same mistake again. It's sort of a warning to the poster.

I agree that a notification for moving threads isn't necessary because the reason is pretty apparent. A topic is moved only when it belongs to another section and has been posted in the wrong section. However, when it comes to locking issues, I believe it's not a bad idea to notify the topic starter about why their topic or thread has been closed/locked.

There can be many reasons for mods to lock a topic; it could be because the purpose has been served and OP isn't doing it himself, or it could be because a topic has become a spam fest and it needs to stop, or maybe a topic goes against a forum rule and has to be locked. So, when a mod locks a topic, they should be asked why they are doing it, and then that reason should be included in the PM or email received by the user who started that topic to make it clear to them why their topic has been locked. I think this can be a helpful feature.

@OP, you can suggest this in the thread: Little things that bug you/me about the forum by @PowerGlove

He might create an SMF Patch with this feature if he likes the idea.
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