Topic: Optimal environment for bitcointalk - Improvements 1. Punishment for False accus - page 2. (Read 910 times)

Please just present you story of what happened in full so we can stop beating around the bush. Just come out with the full explanation of how it went down in your opinion. You always have the " my opinions are not based upon reasoning" to fall back on. So nothing to worry about.

So again

You are tman, you come to your coins auctions auction thread ( that you have asked your pal to auction for you for some reason) and boom you are off agent foxpoop .. explain how it went down that is not a simple case of a under cover deception and manipulation to talk the price up whilst also threatening and telling people to fuck off who voice their honest appraisal of that market.

The entire story please... off you go.

@tman...is that you again? haha what about finding you on one of our threads you ignore. Please save your hilarious explanation until foxpoop has finished. We will have our fun with you later tourettes poet. Please do yourself a favor though do not try to copy the good agents version of events that would be a terrible move...haha


anyway foxpoop is tman now turning up to his own coins auction that he has got his pal to auction for him (for some reason)... here we go... foxpoop you are up take it from here ..

So you notice the price of your own coin (in an undercover auction by your pal miner jones) is a bit low for your liking...." a record low" in fact... what do you do next??

fuck me cant escape it, cannot even imagine why I am dignifying this shit with an answer but, check my fucking trust wall you toilet bowl licking, animal fucking, foreskin sucking, ball munching, cottaging retard. See all my trades, does it look like I would need to buy shit back from myself?  now also look at my negative trust from OG for what happened - check the date and check the date of the thread, also check his negatives from me, then take the time to read our posts to each other at the time. If that isn't proof that no one else believed I was trying to get financial gain at the time I do not know what is.

ohh and The Oracle As Anal, you are on ignore so I will not see your response, but if anyone else wants to quote anything relevant that has not been posted before I will more than happy reply to that post.

Peace out sugar tits

Wauw another thread with waste of time, walls of text .....

 

Of course not, because that's not what was said. Got any better word pretzels for me? This one's gone stale.

Haha please drill down.

So you think Tman really would have bought the coin FROM HIMSELF because it would be such a GREAT DEAL FOR HIM at that low of a price. The only small matter was tman already had to many so he would NOT buy it from himself at that record low price and had to miss out on that brilliant deal...haha

Explain please your reasoning on this.

Can you tell me MORE about the requirements to be DECEPTIVE?  

So tell it like you are tman coming to HIS OWN COINS auction that he has asked his friend to auction for him (for some reason).

So you are TMAN and you come to the under cover tman auction thread.... start there so I can get the full agent foxpoop story line.

Just so we are clear... agent F. You accept deception for financial gain = scamming you just don't believe tman was trying to deceive people? is that where we are???  

sorry foxy not ignoring you.. but,

The Orifice Ass Association game is back on... going to just go with my name this time TMAN!!!! figure the fool might be trying hard to catch me out by now. 

It seems to be distinctly lacking in the false objective statements of fact that are typically required for something to be deceptive. It looks like pure subjective opinion to me, and naturally I don't need to remind you where those come from.

@tman

If your ears are burning and you can't keep away from our threads and you want to keep pretending that we are on ignore (although you are compelled to come to our threads) and you want to play the guessing game. Then just guess " scammer" and you will win everytime.

The prize is you look like a terrified little scamming bitch trying to derail.


@xtraDIV

you see there a net positive and sensible correct indication that you xtraelv are an imbecile and useful idiot. Net positive nod to the reader to treat all that you splurge out here as if it is moronic spew.

Now to address your point and use it to prove OUR OWN POINT (thanks again our fav fool)

We have challenged ANY and ALL that voted to present the central points of ours concering their scamming, scammer supporting or the flaws in the systems of control that they can conclusively debunk as INCORRECT.

They have failed to do so. Therefore their voting as "troll" someone they can not bring even ONE central point they have debunked does indeed confirm the need to punish those trying to mislead the honest members here whilst placing them in danger with their scamming pals that they support.

Take your time to digest before assisting again.

@agent foxpoop

So to be clear you have read the entire auction debacle where tman is UNDENIABLY trying to deceive others for financial gain and claim you see no attempt at deception there??

Can you explain this comment.. knowing and accepting ( as it is undeniable)  that this is tmans coins he is auctioning via his friend minerjones

"TMAN used minerjones to anonymously auction a KIALARA and then attempted to manipulate the auction by stating, "wow this has to be a record low for a sub #100 serial. if I didn't have so many I would be snapping this up"
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.19286369

Just for fun foxpoop, let me here your explanation of how making that statement ( and the other statements to OG to shut up when he gave his fair appraisal of the market for these items)is not deception for clear financial gain.

Is this going to be another agent foxpoop classic. Is this " trolling" opinion also NOT BASED on reasoning??

Can't wait to hear how he would buy his own coin from himself if he did not have so many...well snapping it up since it is a record low hahha hahahah

Go on hit us with the explanation for this one.... can hardly wait....haha

What is more fun, rubbing scammers faces in their own scamming dirt over and over with the help of their scammer supporting pals

or

Watching the scammer supporters make up more and more ludicrous excuses and explanations whilst helping drag their scamming pals through their own scamming dirt over and over.

haha got to be option 2 ... especially when xldiv and agent foxpoop are around lol

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Whoop - no need for anyone else, we can fingerbang each others anus's in an OBSERVABLE way and send this OBSERVABLE TRUTH in picture form to cryptocunter.

Don't you think you should mention those observable instances, if indeed they exist? Until then...

Sorry, I don't see anything like that here. Guess I'll have to go with "trolling".

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Congratulations, you won the grand prize: a romantic dinner and movie in the foxhole for you and (optionally) a feline companion of your choice.

I wasn't feeling any other of the standard words this time dude, I wonder how many posts it will take till I cant guess a word that is included. The One Ass All really is as useless as a chocolate tea kettle

Described it in one word. You could of course have said it is undeniable, independently verifiable observable instances of trolling by TOAA. He was also voted as the biggest troll on the recent bitcointalk troll poll.   It means it was observed and independently verified by those that voted.

Playing The One Ass All game here as he is on ignore... my word this time is TROLLING...

how am I doing here guys?

thankfully xtraelv has turned up to assist us

Clearly providing examples of how assisting people to find the truth is completely different to deliberately trying to mislead people and protect scammers.

So his examples like


smarmacist a sneaky snake like fool who lectures others on shitposting whilst sneakily and greedily using a sockpuppet to plaster his racist garbage everywhere for extra btc dust.

This is helping people to see the truth and therefore net positive

vs

screaming trolling at undeniable and independently verifiable observable instances of scamming is deceiving people and trying to hide the truth and is net negative.

Hiding the truth and presenting the truth are very different. Well done xtraelv. Thanks for assisting us.

@ foxy

Of course we would love to. The nutildah excuse we will pull apart next but let us stick with TMAN first.

I mean it is in the initial post of the dirty turds poll

Seems Tman also is not above a bit of scamming directly when it suits him (we quote OG below who discovered this)

"TMAN used minerjones to anonymously auction a KIALARA and then attempted to manipulate the auction by stating, "wow this has to be a record low for a sub #100 serial. if I didn't have so many I would be snapping this up"
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.19286369

Admission it was his auction:
"Dude I haven't crossed paths with OG in over 6 months, it wasn't until he derailed my auction hosted by MJ that this kicked off."
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.19349060 "

That does not even mention the observable instances of trying to threaten and silence people giving their honest appraisal during the auction of his own coin.


Tman is an auction scammer.  TROLLING Or TRUE.

If trolling then detail here how deliberate deception for direct financial gain is not scamming?

We see lots of screaming that is trolling. We can certainly go to nutildah next but one scamming piece of shit at a time. We have plenty of time.

Apologies tman for dredging up the fact you are an undeniable scammer over again, but your pals insist it becomes personal.

Nutildah it seems you are next willful and deliberate scam facilitator for pay. Or is that trolling?? we shall find out now that agent foxpoop is on the case.


@xtraelv (read above also) but please no more help from you until agent foxpoop is done ...unfair of us to gang up on him. Just wait until he is finished then you can assist further.

Of course it is. That picture I posted for contest leaves very little to the imagination, even if some people weren't quite familiar with what they were observing. (In their defense, shemales are more popular in pornography than hefemales.) Certain members of the merit/trust gang have also done a lot more than just "observe" my gender, as you and your "pal" c******unter often point out as supposed evidence of impropriety.

Misgendering people is a very common and extremely not-nice form of trolling. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I don't need to prove my gender to you. Only those in the merit/trust gang are entitled to such proof.

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I haven't seen it. I hereby ask for you to present it again here.

That wimp backed out of the deal, so obviously he wasn't as "willing" as you claim.

Who is the alleged auction scammer on my trust inclusions?

These are of course quotes of perfectly sane conversations that shows that you are not trolling at all.   (Sarcasm)



Source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poll-the-official-dirty-turds-poll-which-dt-needs-flushing-first-5170789

Haha can you get any dumber?? that is the challenge I have been setting all along. Just present the central points of ours regarding you and your scamming pals or the systems of control that you can conclusively debunk and BOOM if we continue to proliferate those same central points as being true you have some TROLLING to report.

Get on with it scabby little exit scamming exchange pusher.

Make your good start.

No point BEGGING us to stop presenting observable instances of scamming AKA "stop crying and complaing about always the same thing ."

Beg more scumbag.

Now back on topic please. FALSE accusations of trolling should be punished. If you scream trolling then clearly point out the central points that you have conclusively debunked and inform the person they should not repeat that information as true.

If you scream trolling at undeniable and independently verifiable observable instances of scamming. You should be punished and given red trust for trying to cover up undeniable scamming. You are placing in danger other honest members here.

Is that what you are trying to do lafu??

Got to love the defense here by these scumbags claiming. " we should be able to claim undeniable observable instances of scamming  are trolling, hereby claiming they are untrue" therefore deceiving other members and covering up these scams... and there should be no punishment for doing so??  Oh really??

Look how

1. they fail to present EVEN one central point regarding their scamming, or scammer supporting or even the short falls of the systems of control  NOT ONE have they debunked conclusively or even made a credible attempt to debunk (because it is impossible)

2. trying to derail and detract with any tactics they can

3. when I pull them to specifics they run away.

scum bags. Get their sigs taken away at a minimum. Let's see what kind of REAL enthusiasts they are here. Surely they will continue to contribute without sigs for just a few months right?? 

I would say we make a good start and you get for every Shitpost and thread you have done in the last year 1 Month that you will be get banned !
So its possible maybe after that you will stop crying and complaing about always the same thing .

Thought it will be maybe something better but i can see the same shit as always .

Back on Ignore.

If you don't want those pictures to start appearing as an avatar campaign, I suggest you send 1 BTC to the usual place...

Don't know about that. I've observed it several times.

However on a serious note agent fox poop is always welcome. His opinions that are not based on reasoning (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52479030) are always worth destroying in public.

1. your gender is not an observable and undeniable action on the forum. Therefore does not present a clear and undeniable piece of independently verifiable proof. If you are claiming to have a very small penis the size perhaps of a girls clit then one could be forgiven for believing you were female and they were scamming people on the advertisements right?

2. This is regarding the ACCUSATION OF TROLLING Please keep on topic.

3. If you are claiming a person is trolling you with being female when you are male. I guess you would need to present kyc to clearly debunk their claims and then if they continued with that claim they could be viewed as trolling you. Other than that I have no idea how you will attempt to demonstrate they are willfully and deliberately presenting observably and undeniably incorrect information and true.

You (not surprisingly) have not understood the concept.


Undeniable and fully independently verifiable observable instances of SCAMMING can not be compared to your "word" that you consider yourself female at this time.

The concept is here

FALSE claims of TROLLING to deceive members and to try to discredit undeniable Undeniable and fully independently verifiable observable instances of SCAMMING. 

So since you seem to need specifics here to give a demonstration. Don't run away.

This statement for instance.

Tman is an auction scammer.  Is this trolling or is it true foxpoop?  If it is trolling then clearly explain how you see it to be so. 
I notice people are claiming this is TROLLING. By doing so they are deliberately trying to deceive the honest members here. That is dangerous.

Answer please foxpoop. Is that statement trolling or not. I mean I know you have seen the observable and undeniable instance of it that we have detailed in the recent pages of the dirty turds thread. If you need it presented again here, just ask for it.

If it is trolling (provably untrue) then explain how that works.

We did not intend to use specific instances here but since you insist on making it immediately personal then fair enough, to hammer the point home we will gladly present statements for you to claim trolling or untrue to.

Then we can demonstrate how that is clearly different to you claiming you are not female right now.

I mean if you are going to claim that ALL information that is unverifiable is trolling then the board will have a lot less members lol.

Only information that is CONCLUSIVELY and undeniably debunked and demonstrated to be certainly UNTRUE can be used as basis for a trolling "claim".  That would have to be an action or instance that is there in black and white on this forum really.

So

Tman is an auction scammer !! - trolling or not foxpoop?  I see lots of screaming it is trolling. Here is your chance to demonstrate WHY it is grounds for a trolling claim.

Or

Nutildah was willing to facilitate scamming for 0.3 BTC.  - trolling or not ??

Foxpoop includes an auction scammer on his trust inclusions - trolling or true...

We of course none can even be trolling until they are undeniably debunked and undeniably are proven incorrect.
So for instance say you said.... I have never had tman on my trust includes. That does not immediately mean that is trolling. Only if we repeated it as if it were true would that be trolling.

So if you wish to just get back to the initial post, try to understand the concept and then carry on debating without making it personal... then I will find it in my heart not to push you to debase yourself in public trying to explain how those statements are untrue and are rather TROLLING.

We are interested in TROLLING TROLLING here. The continually presentation of a blatantly faux defense (the only one they have) by screaming trolling at Undeniable and fully independently verifiable observable instances of SCAMMING.

Want to claim trolling, demonstrate how the statements are undeniably untrue or incorrect or STFU crying trolling.

There should be punishment for deliberate deception like this, especially to shield scammers and scamming who are a direct financial high risk to the honest members here. 6 month sig bans would be a good start. Moving to perm sig bans if they continue.