Topic: Optimal environment for bitcointalk - Improvements 1. Punishment for False accus - page 3. (Read 848 times)

Will work! :-P

I think it should be this:

Here you can see it: https://media.giphy.com/media/tyqcJoNjNv0Fq/giphy.gif

Take me now.

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...Moving back on topic, I have observable proof that c******unter's assertion that I am a vixen was (at the time) untrue, and therefore an undeniable instance of the trolling he keep complaining about:



I can't wait to hear The-One-Who-Thinks-He's-Above-It-All's explanation for this.

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Trolling, inflammatory and  bullying according to thenewanon ... oh wait " the new " trolling definition seems not to apply to proven scammers and their supporters.

NOW BACK ON TOPIC.

Please debate only the central points of the initial post please. Keep on topic.

As you can see now they CAN NOT PRESENT the central points of ours that they can demonstrate are clearly debunked and incorrect ( BECAUSE THEY ARE UNDENIABLY TRUE) they try to pull out some blanket definition of trolling that they can mutate to prevent people from posting the truth about them. Hence being super deceptive.


1. undeniable scammers being called scammers = true
2. People making observably false and stupid statements being called idiots and imbeciles = true
3. People supporting undeniable scammers on DT being called scammer supporters = true

compared to

1. People presenting observable instances of their scamming being called trolls = FALSE

also for consideration

People making inflammatory remarks that are untrue or they can not present very compelling evidence to corroborate  is NOT the same as a person presenting observable instances of truth that fully corroborate their inflammatory remarks.

So us calling tman a dirty scammer is inflammatory, but is supported by undeniable evidence and is net positive for honest members = TRUE AND NOT TROLLING

Tman then responding claiming that we are trolling him = UNTRUE and TROLLING US and deceiving the honest members of this forum.


Get how it works now??

We should adopt some new clear and transparent RULES that ensure the fair treatment of all members and that are optimal for this entire movement.

Let's get back on topic. We do not need to make it personal or derail this into specifics.

This can be a general rule. These fools came here to derail and discredit the idea because they likely fear any transparent and fair rules that get applied to each and every member equally.


OIEIOIE - we read your messages. Detail now exactly the central points you have debunked. No point saying errr all of it. Point to one specific point. What are you afraid of?

We just see you escaping any debate by saying " i have debunked everything you said " then running away from giving any specific details.

It seems therefore you are unwilling to really get down to a serious debate at all.  Which parts have you debunked?? demonstrate which central points and how you have clearly debunked them.

You need to first demonstrate the central points and NONSENSE you have debunked. Start there. We are waiting. This seems like trolling to us.

FALSE CLAIMS OF DEBUNKING AND NO DEBUNKING PROVIDED AFTER REPEATED REQUEST FOR PRESENTATION.  That is trolling if you can not demonstrate the central points you have clearly debunked.

This is very deceptive and certainly net negative shit posting on your part. I must call darkstar_ to answer for this kind of sponsorship on the rep section if you continue to troll endlessly and give ZERO evidence to substantiate your false claims.

I debunked your nonsense suggestion twice. Read both my posts above.

Now, since you failed to meet my challenge and debunk my posts above without simply throwing around insults, I trust you will follow through with your own logic and undergo a self inflicted ban for a period of 6 months. I'll be treating you as if you have.

STOP please people stop.. life is better with this punk on ignore. every post gives him/her a ladyboner

This is NOT the forum definition of trolling and even if it were that does not apply to me and not you


Hence we can see from your

a/ incorrect definition of trolling per the board defintion
b/ your clear double standards
c/ your failure to realize that your comments clearly define you as an imbecile (therefore the truth)


The fact you feel someone can be observably and undeniably bias on multiple occasions, then gets called on that .......then later if they actually operate in an unbiased objective way and enforce the boards rules  THAT PROVES THEY WERE NEVER BIAS is the "brain fart" of an imbecile? start to get that now?

You are an imbecile. I know this correct and observably accurate definition of yourself does not meet with your own self image but I am helping you see the truth. I have correctly called you an imbecile and demonstrated why you are an imbecile. You see those are examples of your stupidity.

Now bring our central points that you can observably debunk and clearly demonstrate are incorrect with out doubt,  then you can call us an imbecile, and also if we repeat them again as being true you can call us a troll.

See how it works now?

Love how people can come here screaming shut up troll, keep your brainfarts contained with ZERO observable instances to support their claims or accusations. THEN cry bullying and trolling when we correctly define what you have said as the words of an imbecile and the evidence is there in your face. haha

So okay, let's DEFINE trolling in a TRANSPARENT WAY and ENFORCE IT EQUALLY ON ALL MEMBERS.

We believe the board rules regarding trolling are the most OPTIMAL for the forum. If you want to debate a different definition of trolling then you ask them to put it in the rules and it must be applied to ALL members equally.



oieoie or whatever you crap user name is.


Present the NONSENSE specifically so we can demonstrate you are the one making false claims.

We have already challenged you to present our central points that you have debunked and proven are untrue.  You have FAILED to meet that challenge.

Now oeieie either

1. accept the challenge

or

2. accept we have just debunked your claims and demonstrated you are making false allegations.


hurry up TROLL.

I did. Read my post above.

You want to be free to spout out nonsense without punishment, but you want other people to be punished for calling you out on your nonsense. Completely hypocritical, and to continue to demand the moderators give you special treatment to the detriment of everyone else is trolling.

Now, rather than trolling with little more than childish insults, please clearly debunk my reasoning. Failure to do so should result in you being banned, by your own logic.

Seems like I have identified an observable instance of trolling. Please stop bullying me.

Only in the mind an imbecile such as yourself would that provide such proof. It may demonstrate that they are starting to realize we will highlight failures to delete undeniably low value shit posts.

If it is not deleted then we will be creating another thread to decide if such low value shit posts should be allowed to remain and the report be market bad.

Reminder to you and all others

Please keep ON TOPIC and RELEVANT to the initial post from now on. Discuss the central points and debate them or refrain from posting.

If my post gets deleted would that be an observable instance of non-corrupt moderators, proving your previous complaints as invalid?

Quoted to demonstrate the kind of attempts to silence debate that would rock the status quo and push for fair and transparent standards for all posters.

I will report that as low value shit post and see what happens.

Can you please keep your brainfarts in 1 thread? Thanks!

quoting this to demonstrate the kind of crazy situation that is being permitted here.

Can you present the central points of ours that you can clearly debunk so that you can demonstrate it is trolling.

Failure to do so should result clearly demonstrate that you are given a warning for false accusation of trolling.

This entire TROLLING trolling is getting crazy.

People like the above moron just blurts out false accusations based and reliant on prior false accusations LOL

Then a total strawman to end with.

Knowingly proliferating false and incorrect clearly debunked information is trolling according to the board rules. Is not the same as your final strawman.

Chipmixer must be called to recognize they are sponsoring scammer supporters and imbeciles that are not trust worthy at all. This will be our next focus. These shitposters like the above idiot, should not be humiliating themselves in public for btc dust.

Your trolling is going unpunished, so why should people calling out your trolling be any different?

Your entire post because you want other people punished for calling out your trolling, which is a pretty troll worthy thing to suggest.

Simply being incorrect is not the same as trolling.

Improvements 1. Punishment for False accusations of trolling

Since this is a clear rule infraction, apparently punishable by a ban and since there is a clear and sensible definition of trolling " continuously proliferating conclusively debunked and incorrect information as true"  

Since also that it is quite easy to mislead the reader when many "highly merited" and " high trust score" and " high rank" members simply scream trolling to undeniable, independently verifiable observable instances as an attempt to discredit or throw doubt over their validity rather than attempting to debunk these instances ( which of course they realize is impossible).  

Then surely such a blatant and flagrant attempt to mislead and in many cases place in danger the reader should have a punishment.

So certainly in the case where the information and statements are undeniably true ( they relate to specific documented behaviors conducted on this forum and are independently verifiable) are presented and another member states they are TROLLING or in other words claiming these are conclusively debunked and UNTRUE. Then we need to take a more responsible role here in ensuring these people that attempt to prevent the truth by screaming trolling should be punished so that they no longer use this tool of deception.


One should be REQUIRED to present the EXACT and PRECISE piece of information they are referring to as trolling and provide a clear and conclusive debunking of that information. Once they have conclusively debunked that information as false. Then after that point it can be called out as trolling and reported to mods for a punishment.

Any attempts to discredit central points other than public and fair debate should be prevented. It is clearly sub optimal and in many serious cases dangerous to the reader.

Perhaps a 6 month signature ban for any person that tries to discredit observable instances as trolling would be a sensible start. If you want to claim a person is trolling (in relation to behaviors/instances documented in black and white on this forum) you must be able to conclusively debunk the information you specifically call out as trolling.

This would need to be a CONCLUSIVE and undeniable debunking. An observable instance can never meet the sensible criteria of trolling it is impossible. It could be off topic or irrelevant ( that would need to be considered) but it can never be called be termed as trolling. Certain members need to be taught that screaming trolling in response to undeniable independently verifiable observable instances is not acceptable and is indeed deceptive and in many cases deliberately so.