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Quote from: hugeblack on September 06, 2020, 02:07:50 AM

Some countries have developed immunity and the mortality rate is small compared to the population.
The essential thing is that we are learning more about this epidemic and the next cost will be cheaper.

Yes some countries don't suffer the covid-19 pandemic as others that have severe consequence like India, US and few others. Like in Africa too except for South Africa that has quite some number of cases, many Africa countries are not having cases plenty of cases as other third world's and some European countries. So I think solutions should not be generalized and route causes of increased cases should be looked at inwards.

Because the citizens and the government are cooperating with each other that's why we see some other country easily beat up the covid-19 and came back to their normal lives. Solutions will never be generalized since not every human being can able to cope the suggestion and possible solution given and the only thing that can save the humanity in this pandemic is the vaccine and hopefully it will be available next year.

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I see no blessing in disguise to be treated upon this current situation we are all up to. The concept of that blessing in disguise is just purely throughout an optimistic mindset which not everyone can attain for we are all barely affected by this pandemic. But at some point the OP was right that this pandemic have shown us the weak points that our society must assess after this pandemic have been wiped out already. Each and every nation must improve the health sectors to prevent another devastating event like this to happen that will brought out another crisis to arise.

Being optimistic at times like this would be a great help but only for the mind and it cannot help you to barely survive the situation if you won't act right and just rely and be dependent on what the government can provide. With the implementation of the new normal setup, may the people be disciplined enough to follow the strict protocols while hitting two birds in one stone which is reviving the economy slowly, while taking down the infection rate into control because of the health protocols that must be observed on work places.

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Quote from: hugeblack on September 06, 2020, 02:07:50 AM

Some countries have developed immunity and the mortality rate is small compared to the population.
The essential thing is that we are learning more about this epidemic and the next cost will be cheaper.

Yes some countries don't suffer the covid-19 pandemic as others that have severe consequence like India, US and few others. Like in Africa too except for South Africa that has quite some number of cases, many Africa countries are not having cases plenty of cases as other third world's and some European countries. So I think solutions should not be generalized and route causes of increased cases should be looked at inwards.

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Still, too one-sided coverage of the situation for me. A small number of people can afford to stay at home - and even fewer can afford to pay these people a full salary. Knowing how the modern business scheme works for small and medium-sized enterprises, you can confidently understand that even a week of downtime can lead to complete bankruptcy and ruin of the above. Is it bad? Yes, because everything is painful and sad. Is it good? Also Yes! After all, in a stagnant market, something happened that it periodically needs-the dumping of excess and inefficient ballast, the release of new places for newcomers, the shake-up of large companies that suddenly remembered that you can't just live on what you have earned and you need to develop forever.
There are good and bad sides everywhere so now is the time for new beginnings rather than more whining about how bad things are.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on September 17, 2020, 12:52:26 PM

It is hard for a lot of people, a lot of people are sturggling, most of them are risking theirselves right now just to keep a food in the table for the family but I think looking for something positive in this pandemic really helps people. I know that it might not be agreeable for most of us but with a lot of things happening right now, positivity could keep us going forward.

Positivity could keep us going forward and fighting the situation we are in but it's very difficult. We can't compare each other's situation because we are in a different country that has a different perspective and approach to the pandemic. Here in our country, many are just keep going forward but some are struggling because they can't manage themselves due to poverty.

This pandemic has taken a lot of things and already destroyed a lot of people, mentally and physically. Even if we keep going forward, our time will come as long as the pandemic are still ongoing. This isn't our chance to reset, this the chance for another development to grow and be ready for another pandemic in the future.

Its not only about positivity, it is also about discipline, this pandemic makes us show how well disciplined we are because if you are well disciplined even if you go out often just to feed your family you won't be getting the virus or youre chance of getting it is very low, this is not a chance to reset but a chance to see how very important health is and our health workers as well as health facilities because some government focus more on other things so i hope everyone will take health seriously because no matter how good your country is if its not taking care of focus on its health workers or facilities everything will easily fall apart

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Many things trigger why people prioritize the economy rather than their lives, the main problem is indeed financial problems and needs. The governments of several countries have not been able to do their best because the world economy is also affected. To imagine that we can put order in order to break the cycle of the spread of covid, I myself find it very difficult because the downturn economy makes many people have to keep working. I think everyone also wants to stay at home doing nothing, the problem is if we do that then we will find it difficult to fulfill our needs.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on September 17, 2020, 12:52:26 PM

It is hard for a lot of people, a lot of people are sturggling, most of them are risking theirselves right now just to keep a food in the table for the family but I think looking for something positive in this pandemic really helps people. I know that it might not be agreeable for most of us but with a lot of things happening right now, positivity could keep us going forward.

Positivity could keep us going forward and fighting the situation we are in but it's very difficult. We can't compare each other's situation because we are in a different country that has a different perspective and approach to the pandemic. Here in our country, many are just keep going forward but some are struggling because they can't manage themselves due to poverty.

This pandemic has taken a lot of things and already destroyed a lot of people, mentally and physically. Even if we keep going forward, our time will come as long as the pandemic are still ongoing. This isn't our chance to reset, this the chance for another development to grow and be ready for another pandemic in the future.

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It is hard for a lot of people, a lot of people are sturggling, most of them are risking theirselves right now just to keep a food in the table for the family but I think looking for something positive in this pandemic really helps people. I know that it might not be agreeable for most of us but with a lot of things happening right now, positivity could keep us going forward.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 14, 2020, 02:01:39 PM

Quote from: Janation on September 06, 2020, 12:00:15 AM

Millions of death, economy falling and other things happening, how is this a blessing for you?

Wasn't OP accused of being an actual AI program/thing? I don't know if that's true or not, nor if the sentiments he's expressed are genuine, but I sure as hell don't think anything related to COVID-19 has been a blessing.

Personally I haven't had my life severely disrupted by the pandemic, but I know that's not the case with a lot of folks--and you can certainly include in that list the ones that died from COVID-19. Everything has been disrupted in one form or another in pretty much everyone's lives. Wearing face masks, keeping distance from people, not being able to go to work, etc. All of that sucks, and I don't see any silver lining in all of it.

Strangely enough the stock market doesn't seem to have been negatively impacted, except during the first few weeks of the outbreak when no one was sure how severe it was going to be. Maybe that's a positive thing; there are probably quite a few people who've made some money trading stocks (and bitcoin/metals/other things). But that's cold comfort in my mind.

That fast recovery like always came from governments printing a lot of money and using it to push the markets upwards, but this cannot last long, there is a very clear divergence between the economy in general and the stock market, the economy is suffering and yet the stock markets recovered to their previous levels and this does not make sense, sooner or later it will be impossible to hide the real costs of the pandemic and the stock market will crash for good this time creating an even bigger crisis in the process.

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These viruses have disrupted our lives as human beings and caused us to live with stress all the time. That is why life is out of our normal routine and our health is facing threats and problems in the yard and the only solution is to follow the tips It is safety.

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Quote from: ecnalubma on September 15, 2020, 12:48:37 PM

This pandemic has taken a lot from us, from our normal lives, jobs, economic shutdown and feels like we’re all lab rats observed for an experiment. In reality the lockdowns did not ease the situation government just burned the cash for nothing, the evidence is the rising numbers of affected by the virus and highest unemployment rate. The big problems created channels of problem, now the government not only focus on pandemic but also reviving the dying economy.

We can’t get out of this mess, we have to deal with it and the government can’t save us from this. Its the best time to exercise our responsibilities and become self sufficient.

It will take long for us to survive from this pandemic and the recession because many people are worried about what will happen to them in the next few days that most of them are jobless or no any source of income. It is the reason why other countries are having huge debts, so they could just provide their citizen needs, but it is still not enough.

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stay at home and follow government instruction

But unfortunately, the government instructions includes palliative supply to the masses and needy but this promises don't get to the poor and needy masses as the support are hijacked in most cases by government machineries. This is a situation that makes this covid-19 times difficult to bear.

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This pandemic has taken a lot from us, from our normal lives, jobs, economic shutdown and feels like we’re all lab rats observed for an experiment. In reality the lockdowns did not ease the situation government just burned the cash for nothing, the evidence is the rising numbers of affected by the virus and highest unemployment rate. The big problems created channels of problem, now the government not only focus on pandemic but also reviving the dying economy.

We can’t get out of this mess, we have to deal with it and the government can’t save us from this. Its the best time to exercise our responsibilities and become self sufficient.

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Quote from: Janation on September 06, 2020, 12:00:15 AM

Millions of death, economy falling and other things happening, how is this a blessing for you?

Wasn't OP accused of being an actual AI program/thing? I don't know if that's true or not, nor if the sentiments he's expressed are genuine, but I sure as hell don't think anything related to COVID-19 has been a blessing.

Personally I haven't had my life severely disrupted by the pandemic, but I know that's not the case with a lot of folks--and you can certainly include in that list the ones that died from COVID-19. Everything has been disrupted in one form or another in pretty much everyone's lives. Wearing face masks, keeping distance from people, not being able to go to work, etc. All of that sucks, and I don't see any silver lining in all of it.

Strangely enough the stock market doesn't seem to have been negatively impacted, except during the first few weeks of the outbreak when no one was sure how severe it was going to be. Maybe that's a positive thing; there are probably quite a few people who've made some money trading stocks (and bitcoin/metals/other things). But that's cold comfort in my mind.

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Quote from: Dorodha on September 11, 2020, 09:11:59 AM

Since the onset of the global epidemic many people have lost their jobs and many businesses have been shut down. Even the lucky ones who have survived in any profession have changed their style of work completely. it will take a long time to reset the damage done by the whole poison cannot be recovered in one day. Although the lockdown has stopped everything people are now more inclined towards online work many are also making a living by improving the agricultural sector.

This is the thing, the losses we suffered due to the pandemic cannot be recovered in a matter of months it is going to take years for things to go back to normal and it is fair to question us if things will ever go back to normal because there is always the possibility the vaccine gets delayed or we face another wave of the pandemic during this winter, and if that is the case I do not know if the economy can endure it because the recovery we have seen in the stock market is a fake one thanks to all the money it was printed by governments all over the world.

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Since the onset of the global epidemic many people have lost their jobs and many businesses have been shut down. Even the lucky ones who have survived in any profession have changed their style of work completely. it will take a long time to reset the damage done by the whole poison cannot be recovered in one day. Although the lockdown has stopped everything people are now more inclined towards online work many are also making a living by improving the agricultural sector.

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In truth, Coronavirus have changed the way we have been living. It came to show us that some of the things we thought were dependent on our survival were mostly things we can do without. A family where they believed they are not complete without annual vacation now understand that it was purely luxury to do. All of the inter-country travels for trainings or business propositions at the early stage can even be done from the comfort of your room. So, yes, it's a reset for everyone.

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All i can say here is that, i found out the true colors of every individual especially those highest leaders in our country down to the bottom. This pandemic is a total devastation and it showed clearly the good and bad side of the people especially the Government, in aiding those starving individuals and those who suffered from all the losses.
I can see how political issues interfered in this crisis and the worst is the unending corruption that made all the people suffer. It may brought blessings to others who keep on seeking for alternative earning points, but somehow the worst scenario is beyond words to tell. The most affected with this crisis are the poorest of the poor and the smaller businesses that had been closed until now and didn't get any assistance from the Government. Its the sad truth here in my Country.

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Quote from: michellee on September 10, 2020, 09:41:23 PM

Yes, because it is hard to prove if the officials confirmed to steal the funds because the other officials can get bribed from the corrupt officials. That is why we have seen many corrupt officials still get around free in their country because there is not enough proof to caught them. But I am still sure that some officials can be honest to guard the funds, and they will distribute the funds to the people. No matter what, they don't want to corrupt like the other officials.

In some countries, corruption has become an open secret that many people understand, even many corruptors in my country, who do not seem ashamed to be caught because they consider corruption in government to be a systemic and general thing. All of this started with money politics which caused the high cost of winning elections.

Campaign funding practices, both revenue and expenditure, which create corrupt relationships between donors and the political parties or candidates they support as well as corrupt behavior patterns that occur between election participants and voters. It is feared that the long-term impact is that the post-election government, which is tinged with money politics, will be trapped in a circle of corruption. Voters must continue to be given explanations and knowledge about the dangers of money politics and its impact on strengthening corruption. This knowledge is important to present voter awareness. Although not easy, these educational and socialization steps are important, not only by election organizers, but also by the media, civil society, and election participants themselves.

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That's thoughtful of you, the lockdown period was actually a good time to put many things in order in many countries, serious government would have seen it as opportunity to repair their roads since most people are indoor, the distorted education setting can be adjusted, most banks and company who laid the staffs off would have increased their digital effects, even the weather change would call for an advanced way out in agriculture A lot of adjustment and rehabilitations for a balance should have been taken in advantage of the lock down

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