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The Daniel Question revisited.

So, as I understand it, the CEO Daniel, let's call him Daniel 1 (Mahmeg or Mamheg, nobody seems quite sure) doesn't have the time to post here. Busy showing people round I guess.
So, Daniel 2 must be Daniel Llewellyn Jnr. (excellent Welsh name), VEIAG Director of Marketing Operations. This Daniel's even got a Linkedin account.


So why is he khoatuong283 on Bitcointalk?


But khoatuong283 links his bounty stuff to a FaceBook account in the name of a Romanian guy.


So is Daniel Llewellyn Jr also Gradinaru Claudiu?

You guys are very confusing.

But your Telegram is a crock of shit.
Let's have a look see at the comments and questions of the sophisticated investors kiddies searching for free tokens


Hi John, you seem like a reasonable guy. I'm not trying to "create trouble" for anyone, just asking a few questions.
When people are looking for hundreds of millions of dollars finance for a project, I think it's reasonable for them to expect some questions to answer, don't you?
Tell me honestly, are you impressed with VEIAG's communication so far?
Even if my questions and other comments might have seemed to them a bit disrespectful, would you have confidence in a management team that responds with ALL CAP ABUSE and THREATS?
Maybe you can help me understand the "Gold Backed" idea? Or when to expect VEIAG to make a trading profit, and how?
Or why they need to build a multi million dollar HQ?
Thanks.

Welcome to the Internet, Daniel.

Many of us on this thread are now confused and might be losing our confident because of the issue posting by this guy and I saw that maybe he and someone commenting here had a very traumatic experience with person who are accusing behind this project.. @VEIAG you should answer the accusation of this guy or it can create trouble of your project..

I'm pretty impressed with your logo, why do you have the idea of designing it like that? Surely it will have implications in every detail, is not it ?

Sooo......VEIAG.

In the spirit of the (surreal) white paper 1.3:

V is for Verbiage.
The whole thing reads like an incontinent bot, programmed to string together meaningless buzzphrases. Does a white paper really need an eighteen bullet point analysis of the steps necessary to run a dairy farm? I think not.

E is for Ethics.
Yeah, the UN thing. This "Global Compact". Aspirational phrases galore, high moral ground, all very UN. And all it takes to grab the credibility of "membership" is a registered company (in Russia in VEIAG's case, why that?) and a meaningless letter and BAM, you can flaunt the UN logo as much as you want.

I is for Impenetrable.
Strip out the wordz and "Where's the beef?"
Where's the core profit drivers?
The plan is they're just going to parachute into some of the biggest industries in the world (pharma, farming), analyse shit with their reams of experts and watch the profits roll in? Where's the CV's of the "Team" to give any confidence that they have any experience in these sort of global industry initiatives? Is some Russian hasbeen ex bureaucrat 'advisor' their farming expert?

A is for Ambition.
A $200,000,000 ICO, that's some ambition... Nearly $35 million of it being spent on buying land and building a "Research Institute" and "Headquarters"? Where and why?
After all the "allocations" only 39% of the ico amount will actually be left for project implementation. Sounds like one of those charities that actually eats more of their income in overhead than they use on the ground. The sort with $$$$ CEO packages and fleets of limos. Top heavy NGO flavor bureaucratic corporate structures are sooo 20th century.

G is for gold.
They make a big play of this, this "hard backed" by gold thing. (Once again, see "Verbiage", an anal obsession with the redemption process minutaie. RBR, CBR, VDM, BRA, VRB, WTF?)
But of course, the idea that there is some link between a crypto token and the mighty security of gold isn't a new idea. The most memorable would be Ruja Ignatova and Aurum, that ended well lol.
Truth is, it's meaningless. IF this thing ever functioned and became profitable it would be irrelevant and if/when it doesn't then it doesn't matter anyway.

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Tl,dr: Right from the pseudo Masonic, old school "official" flavor of the VEIAG logo and acronym thru the Bullshit Baffles Brains White paper and the meaningless UN "accreditation", to the large Bounty/Airdrop prioritization even before a website or white paper, to pics of the CV-free guyz posing by a boat, to the illiterate ALL CAPS ranting, this whole thing smacks of massive cognitive dissonance.

By listing, are you referring to listing on exchanges or our upcoming token sale?

If you're referring to being listed on exchanges, we're planning being listed on major exchanges by mid Q4.

We are currently in negotiations with a few major exchanges.

Thank you for a well explain answer, Wishing you good luck and may the Team overcome the old time problem of the crypto market.. when is the plan for listing of this token?

Hello John 1010,


So your question is a good one, and we have a few great answers for you to take in to consideration.


1. So we are converting 25% of the funds raised from our Token Sale in to GOLD bullion to back the token with tangible value, that will happen only after we are up on the major exchanges and a smart HODLER will not want to dump immediately as for the value of the token will not even have close to its potential value. That being said, I would like to be realistic... yes we do expect some tokens to be sold of as in any new Token that is listed on a major exchange, but nothing that could harm the project as a whole.


2. A good example would be, why would you sell something for 0.50-0.60 cents when you can wait just a bit and sell it for potentially double?  We will also have a LIVE STREAM of the  25% of funds raised being converted in to GOLD (which automatically will increase the physical value behind the token, as well as TRUST and BELIEF in VEIAG!) in turn drastically increasing the value of VEIAG.


3. Another example if I may, is simply, when Bounty and Airdrop Hunters realize they are selling tokens that bring in a steady stream of income and provide a stable steady growth. a smart investor will think twice before doing so. Keep in mind, not only are we converting 25% of the funds raised, we are converting 25% of all of the organizations profits from its network of SDG projects into GOLD bullion every business quarter, as well as releasing a RPR (Release of Profit Report ) which clearly states the amount of profits earned every 3 months( Business Quarter), so investors will know exactly the amount of GOLD pegged to each and every VEIAG token as we will have a live ticker on our app and website.


4. Another thing I would like for you to keep in mind is the amount of VEIAG tokens allocated for the bounty and airdrop are just a few percent of the amount we will have in circulation and developed as a whole.

500,000,000 VEIAG tokens are up for sale and we expect to sell out fairly quickly. In the whole scope of things, even if all tokens that are rewarded via Airdrop and Bounty are sold, it will not effect the price stability of the token too much, due to our investors who are HODLING waiting for us to commence our first GOLD conversion to back the token.


If you have anymore questions, please join us on Telegram (t.me/VEIAG_token) as we are much more responsive there. Thanks!

I found your question is similar here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42371051

hmmmm.. looks like either this guy or you are related to each other.. 

copy paste?
dummy account?
or.. double account?

Sorry but Im a quite observant type of person.. I always read everything..

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@VEIAG my question is..

Everyone in this forum are involve with bounty and Airdrop even me.. So what will happen in your token if it will going to be listed in some exchanges? The reality is, all bountiers who are holding of each token/coin will start to sell their rewarded token/coin, then the effect is, the ICO token will going to dump and it's hard to recover.. What is your solution this old time bounty problem?

Thanks

Nice first post, bud ...

What I'm about to say is a stretch, so please don't put much weight in it. The author the OP once advanced some drone project, of which Marshall Long was heavily into. Further, consider the following ...


... Marshall Long is known to use the highlighted phrase a lot. Again, just an observation on my part is all.

very soon.

Nothing difficult I promise, although you might want to ask a grown up for some help, because atm you come across like

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Cool threat, by the way

Thank you for the airdrop

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I think there are far too many people who don't visit the site and ask things that comes to their mind, it probably creates the problem.

INSTEAD OF DEFAMING US, WHY DONT YOU ACTUALLY DO SOME RESEARCH, BECAUSE I KNOW ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH THIS PROJECT YOU WILL BE THE FIRST TO JUMP ON BUDDY. SO PLEASE INSTEAD OF WORKING AGAINST US WORK WITH US. ASK QUESTIONS. WE WILL BE DOING LIVE STREAMS SOON OUR WALLET IS BEING MADE AS WELL. WE HAVE A TON OF ADDITIONAL WELL RECOGNIZED ADVISORS COMING ON BOARD! OUR REAL DEAL MARKETING CAMPAIGN DIDN'T EVEN KICK OFF YET. ONCE IT DOES YOU WILL FALL IN LOVE AS EVERYONE ELSE HAS. PLEASE BE A GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU

AND IF THERE IS ANY ONE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR THE TEAM  PERSONALLY LET ME KNOW AND WE CAN SET UP A SKYPE CALL OR CAN EVEN COME FLY OUT TO US.

Yeah, this looks real scammy huh? Some of the team at the United Nations Peace Boat in New York City. We're still waiting for your evidence, doesn't seem like you have any though because you have not posted a single screen shot or anything to would lead someone to believe that we are a scam. I have a feeling you are a bounty hunter that is mad because you weren't accepted or something. Please post your motives and your evidence. We can even jump on a skype video call if you wish. We can even have Thea jump on with us. And this is Daniel Llewellyn Jr.

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So your name is "Daniel" but not Daniel Mamheg? Who are you then? Are you part of the VEIAG team?

And please stop violating the forum rules.

WHAT YOU MAKE ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE AND I AM NOT MR.MAMHEG . THIS IS YOUR QOUTE"tmfp has presented lots of things that lead to think this is a scam"
NOW STATE THEM .. WHATTT ARE THHHEE THINGGS THAT MAKE US A SCAMM.. THE FACT THAT OUR APP IS LAUNCHING NEXT WEEK , OR MAYBE THE FACT THAT WE HAVEN'T STARTED OUR SALE BECAUSE  WE ARE SO HARD AT WORK TO MAKE EVERYTHING PERFECT OR MAYBE THE FACT THAT WE ARE PART OF THE UNITED NATIONS GLOBAL COMPACT!!!

PLEASE STOPPPP YOUR A REAL TROLL AND WE WILL MAKE SURE WE PROVE YOU WRONG ON ALL FIELDS GUARANTEED! I PROMISE YOU THAT ! YOU WILL REGRET YOUR WORDS