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legendary
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February 23, 2024, 03:43:50 AM
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There are threads that were created to remove the fee without paying any money and there are: by hugeblack Remove Proxyban (evil fees) - whitelisted for free | my list and by LoyceV Remove Proxyban (evil fees) - email to get whitelisted for free. you can check the above links to know more.
FYI: The forum shows a link to my topic to all users who hit the proxyban.
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I have come across several posts were I discover that so many people create an account and labour till it attains a senior member rank(high profile) and then create a new one which they will nurse till it also matures. I also heard about getting whitelisted for free where the proxiban fee meant for the amount of evil is bypassed. I want to know if it is allowed for one to own more than one account and if one can register without the evil fee?


I believe you've already gotten the answers you needed from members of the forum that replied to your post about allowing alt account and registration without evil fee, I actually don't even know there's something called evil fee because I have never attempted to open another account but having gotten opinion from users here on how one can bypass the proxiban fee I now begin to wonder why is it that users who have alt accounts doesn't link it with each other so that the forum members can be aware of the owner of the alt maybe like give a neutral feedback indicating that the other account is his alt, the only person I've observed and saw he has an alt account of which he gave a neutral feedback that showed the connection of the both accounts is @hugeblack.

He has made it very obvious that he has an alt account which is fare enough for every one to see rather than some persons that has an alt and pretends to be someone else like I don't even know how a user can use an alt account to hide their identity for so long.
legendary
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I want to know if it is allowed for one to own more than one account and if one can register without the evil fee?
as has already been mentioned by other users, it is ok to own more than one account, as for the "evil fee", I have not seen or heard anyone get banned because they bypassed(when I say bypass I don't mean getting whitelisted but using VPN or other IP address to register on the forum) paying the "evil fee".
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Though the forum allows the use of alt accounts but however I don't think building a new account is necessary inasmuch as you keep a good reputation and get reliable trust from users in the forum. Sometimes, I do imagine how some persons manage two accounts like isn't it obvious that you would find it stressful to be using multiple accounts? Well, since the forum allows it and you feel you can get alt account without breaking the rules of the forum then it may be okay but for me, I would build my account to the legendary level and become a DT member.

People have different reasons for having alts, some members are even open about their alt accounts. This is what Theymos thinks of alt accounts:
I don't have a problem with alt accounts as long as they're not used for evading bans. If you're hesitant to say something controversial because you don't want it to be associated with your name, please create an alt account and say it.

There was a time a tried opening account for a friend and I was asked to pay an evil fee then I was like what? So opening account for someone using my device means an committing evil? Then I got to know that inasmuch as I've used my device to open my account that I can't open another except I pay the evil fee and I just declined that I don't want to commit any evil in the first place; lol though I don't really know if there is a way to bypass paying the evil fee.
I haven’t tried it before but I doubt that’s how proxy ban works. I guess you didn’t read any of the above replies. Anyway you can avoid the evil fee, you can use a vpn or point your friend to this thread to get whitelisted: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/remove-proxyban-evil-fees-email-to-get-whitelisted-for-free-5350260
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Though the forum allows the use of alt accounts but however I don't think building a new account is necessary inasmuch as you keep a good reputation and get reliable trust from users in the forum. Sometimes, I do imagine how some persons manage two accounts like isn't it obvious that you would find it stressful to be using multiple accounts? Well, since the forum allows it and you feel you can get alt account without breaking the rules of the forum then it may be okay but for me, I would build my account to the legendary level and become a DT member.

There was a time a tried opening account for a friend and I was asked to pay an evil fee then I was like what? So opening account for someone using my device means an committing evil? Then I got to know that inasmuch as I've used my device to open my account that I can't open another except I pay the evil fee and I just declined that I don't want to commit any evil in the first place; lol though I don't really know if there is a way to bypass paying the evil fee.
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Ranking up after the introduction of merit system is not easy as used to be, so account farmers stopped doing that for a very long time
Account farmers are still very much active, the merit system only made it difficult for them to build multiple accounts quickly and at the same time. In my time here, I have seen members expose account farms that were operating under the radar for years. One thing I’m sure of is account farmers are eventually caught, the more accounts they have, the more likely they are to slip and make a mistake.
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I have come across several posts were I discover that so many people create an account and labour till it attains a senior member rank(high profile) and then create a new one which they will nurse till it also matures. I also heard about getting whitelisted for free where the proxiban fee meant for the amount of evil is bypassed. I want to know if it is allowed for one to own more than one account and if one can register without the evil fee?


Ranking up after the introduction of merit system is not easy as used to be, so account farmers stopped doing that for a very long time but you are allowed to have more than one account and as much as you want but it's not really needed in my opinion but you can have a secondary one if you are going to surf forum from unsecured devices.

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I want to know if it is allowed for one to own more than one account and if one can register without the evil fee?
Having multiple accounts is allowed as long as you do not break the forum rules like cheating signature campaigns, exchanging merits between your accounts or replying to posts of your alts. If one of your accounts gets banned, using your other accounts or creating a new one is considered as ban evasion. 

People create alt accounts for different reasons, the most common is to participate in signature campaigns. Others just want an account where they can say their mind or troll other members without hurting their main accounts.
legendary
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If you are company owner and you brought your company to the forum, you can own more than one account. One account for the company transaction analysis, responding to questions, and other things that concerns the company while if the second account is for managing the campaign of the company if they didn't hire already established ones here, they can have theirs. And that is, one for the ANN thread and the other for the campaign thread. And also buying of account is not a bad thing but who was behind the scene of the account must put into consideration. Because if you buy and account that user's reputation was not good and you buy the account to continue posting then you will enter a very big problem. And as other as said multiple accounts make the user or the owner to reduce the quality of the posting. And quality is respected in the forum. As for the evil fee. There are threads that were created to remove the fee without paying any money and there are: by hugeblack Remove Proxyban (evil fees) - whitelisted for free | my list and by LoyceV Remove Proxyban (evil fees) - email to get whitelisted for free. you can check the above links to know more.
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I have come across several posts were I discover that so many people create an account and labour till it attains a senior member rank(high profile) and then create a new one which they will nurse till it also matures. I also heard about getting whitelisted for free where the proxiban fee meant for the amount of evil is bypassed. I want to know if it is allowed for one to own more than one account and if one can register without the evil fee?


You can register without having to pay an evil fee when you apply for being whitelisted as some other members already have given you the link to that, in everything you're doing, you need to first take your time and read through the forum rules to see whether you're not beyond the boundary, having alt accounts comes with some rules which you must not use to abuse the privilege of, or better still not to have any at all, its your personal decision.
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I have come across several posts were I discover that so many people create an account and labour till it attains a senior member rank(high profile) and then create a new one which they will nurse till it also matures.
Forum allows to a person to have multiple accounts but discourage purchasing accounts to do this. Campaign managers are against multiple accounts in a one campaign.

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I also heard about getting whitelisted for free where the proxiban fee meant for the amount of evil is bypassed.
People ask for whitelisting not because they have alt accounts. Sometimes you have problems with evil IP when create your first account but it does not come from you. Evil IP has false positive too and whitelisting can help you to bypass evil IP ban.

Not all applications for whitelisting will be accepted.

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I want to know if it is allowed for one to own more than one account and if one can register without the evil fee?
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legendary
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I have come across several posts were I discover that so many people create an account and labour till it attains a senior member rank(high profile) and then create a new one which they will nurse till it also matures. I also heard about getting whitelisted for free where the proxiban fee meant for the amount of evil is bypassed. I want to know if it is allowed for one to own more than one account and if one can register without the evil fee?
Its not encourage but of course if you are gonna be proven using a lot of account for doing multiple account then youll be tagged. As far as I know theres a lot of alt account but used gor other purposes and not for gaming some signature campaign. In the past theres so many whom caught gaming the system. Dont bother to try and focus on yourself alone.
legendary
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The question immediately arises: What is a second or several alternative accounts for? Yes, we know of several alternative accounts that are open about it, using mobile phones or other devices outside the home. It's comfortable. But often we see a different picture when several accounts are either participating in one company to increase payment receipts or in different subscription companies, again due to the desire to earn more money. But as you can guess, if a person has many accounts, the quality of posting will be worse as people strive to meet the weekly quota, thereby creating a lot of spam. From here, there will be many reports to moderators about low-quality posts, which may later affect the reputation.

There is an expression that you can’t make all the money, so participate in the forum honestly, and remember that quality will always be better than quantity.

Based on your neutral feedback, OP, it is clear that you are specifically interested in signature companies.
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Probably who ever buys an account will exit scam then
Why dont people keep it real

There are reasons why one would have multiple accounts... For example, one that's anonymous and one that can be linked to their real identity. Or an account that's coupled to one's brand and one personal account...

As for account sales: people could buy an account to level up faster... In the past this happened out in the open, everybody knew an account could change hands and one should always be careful dealing with anybody cause you never knew if the account was still owned by the same owner. Somewhere around 2015/2016 (IIRC), the community took a harsher stand against account sales, and even tough it's technically still allowed to sell accounts, the community usually tags sold accounts to warn other people they're not dealing with the original owner. Nowadays, account sales probably happen off-forum, and i personally think this makes people less vigilant. Personally, i don't care if you have two accounts or buy an account without malicious intent: if you don't scam, don't spam and treat me fairly, i couldn't care less if you're using a sold account or not... But yeah, sold accounts can be used to scam, and multi accounts can be used to join campaigns with multiple users at the same time, i certainly don't condone this behaviour.
Change of identity can really affect the trust system on the forum, another person with bad intentions could buy a high profile account and use it to scam others on the profile, selling account puts others at risk.

Having multiple accounts is legal just that account managers, put rules against alt account on one camping cause you might eating up space for other people who want to participate in the campaign and cheating is against campaign rules so they do have the right to give you a negative trust for cheating in campaign.
legendary
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Yes it is allowed to have more than one account, but it is not allowed to participate in campaigns with multiple accounts,
Campaign rules are local to different campaigns. The forum does not have any regulation for how members join campaigns, but managers make rules that you shouldn't join a single campaign with alt accounts, but you can join multiple campaigns with different accounts.

there is a member from the fox group who had a mobile version and desktop version account, means he/she made another account to use it on mobile and the first one to use on desktop or whatever the sequence would be.
The forum admin also has an alt account.

I don't have much of an idea about the evil fee, but I suggest the issue is big nowadays, when I made this account I didn't face any issues,
Evil fees were put in place to stop ban evasion by blacklisting IPs of banned accounts, the rollover effect is that it affects all users associated to that IP.
You didn't face an issue cause your IP did not have any evil associated with it.
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I have come across several posts were I discover that so many people create an account and labour till it attains a senior member rank(high profile) and then create a new one which they will nurse till it also matures. I also heard about getting whitelisted for free where the proxiban fee meant for the amount of evil is bypassed. I want to know if it is allowed for one to own more than one account and if one can register without the evil fee?
Yes it is allowed to have more than one account, but it is not allowed to participate in campaigns with multiple accounts, there are members who have more than 1 account on this forum, for example, there is a member from the fox group who had a mobile version and desktop version account, means he/she made another account to use it on mobile and the first one to use on desktop or whatever the sequence would be.

I don't have much of an idea about the evil fee, but I suggest the issue is big nowadays, when I made this account I didn't face any issues, I will try to see what you are talking about, and if there is an issue there must be a solution to it also. But the thing that matters most is, why you are seeking the knowledge of having more then 2 accounts.
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Probably who ever buys an account will exit scam then
Why dont people keep it real

There are reasons why one would have multiple accounts... For example, one that's anonymous and one that can be linked to their real identity. Or an account that's coupled to one's brand and one personal account...

As for account sales: people could buy an account to level up faster... In the past this happened out in the open, everybody knew an account could change hands and one should always be careful dealing with anybody cause you never knew if the account was still owned by the same owner. Somewhere around 2015/2016 (IIRC), the community took a harsher stand against account sales, and even tough it's technically still allowed to sell accounts, the community usually tags sold accounts to warn other people they're not dealing with the original owner. Nowadays, account sales probably happen off-forum, and i personally think this makes people less vigilant. Personally, i don't care if you have two accounts or buy an account without malicious intent: if you don't scam, don't spam and treat me fairly, i couldn't care less if you're using a sold account or not... But yeah, sold accounts can be used to scam, and multi accounts can be used to join campaigns with multiple users at the same time, i certainly don't condone this behaviour.
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yes and yes.

here's a snipplet from the (un)official forum rules about multi accounting:
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18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.
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Probably who ever buys an account will exit scam then
Why dont people keep it real
legendary
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yes and yes.

here's a snipplet from the (un)official forum rules about multi accounting:
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18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.
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As for bypassing the evil fee: Theymos even gave a couple of users the permission to whitelist users... If he wanted to enforce the evil fee, he'd never have done this.
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i dont think it worth the risk better keep 1 account and be SOMEBODY !
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