I would like to see a Pacquaio Ugas rematch but in all honesty I would be happier if Manny just retired.
It’s quite heart breaking to see a great boxer who you followed for many years just not performing at a high level anymore.
Neil Young had a quote, “Its better to burn out than to fade away”.
On the other hand, I can see why Manny wants to fight and I suppose if people want to see him then I have no problem with it but I would rather remember him at his peak then remember him from his last performance against Ugas.
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The speed isnt the same when he's still on his prime.
The power isnt really that same calibre when he's still on his prime.
The footstep or lower body strength isnt the same.
and thats because of age and some mix of lacking of enough training due to other career that he's been taking.
I do agree that rematch isnt needed but if he wants too then lets just support it.
The power isnt really that same calibre when he's still on his prime.
The footstep or lower body strength isnt the same.
and thats because of age and some mix of lacking of enough training due to other career that he's been taking.
I do agree that rematch isnt needed but if he wants too then lets just support it.
His speed might lessen but he still has that speed but not the same as his prime, and like I said that strength is not really the same that is my issue about Pacquiao right now and that rematch is not really needed he can just settle down and at the end of the day his still be Manny Pacquiao, the greatest boxer there is, and yes age his surely be a big factor indeed, he should listen more on his fans and analysis about him, but yes if he wants a rematch he can surely have it.
If Manny did listen to us he would not become where he is now, he definitely knows what he is doing, I understand the concern, but that loss is still one loss and he as a champion by heart would want to prove that despite his age, it's not a hindrance for him being successful. His corner still believes in him and it's normal that the first reaction after the loss is that a fighter would think of quitting, but later he realizes that he is a warrior and he wants to have another chance.
Now, I'm also convinced that Manny still has something to give, his speed is his advantage and hopefully, he can have that in the rematch.
Well, maybe the lack of training and his age is a big factor for him losing to Yurdenis Ugas, but at the end of the day his decision still matters here, and like you have said he knows his body pretty well, but there are still points in analysis about him that he needs to listen to get some idea and certainly advice for himself,
If he would call for a rematch or just settle down for retirement the Filipino community is still supporting him, in my case not in politics, but with his decision on his boxing career.
It seems like Manny Pacquiao is still interested on the rematch.
This news came up and we might see a rematch early next year.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/boxing/boxing-manny-pacquiao-vs-yordenis-ugas-rematch-latest-news-reaction-dates/news-story/a375d046b5266f71734a83fc998ddd06
He wants to fight because he thinks he was not able to give his 100% in that fight, his legs were tight so he was not able to move well like he usually do in his previous fight, and we all witness that, so maybe let's give him a chance.
Please post some updates and speculation regarding the fight so this thread will be more informative.
I am not against it however Manny really needs to train as hard as possible because if he losses against Ugas again I think there will be many voices that are probably going to ask him to finally retire, as a fan of boxing in general this is not something that I want, however it seems that finally age is catching up to him and as we know father time is undefeated, but I hope Manny can set the clock back a few years and can show Ugas his real potential and can come up with a win during the rematch. This news came up and we might see a rematch early next year.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/boxing/boxing-manny-pacquiao-vs-yordenis-ugas-rematch-latest-news-reaction-dates/news-story/a375d046b5266f71734a83fc998ddd06
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Pacquiao, 42, told The Athletic website that he may consider fighting Ugas again in January following his unanimous decision loss to the 35-year-old in Las Vegas on Saturday.
“Yes, I can come back in January. I will see about it,” Pacquiao told the website. “I know I can rematch him if I want. I’ll just need to tell (promoter) Al Haymon. That would be no problem.” Ugas said in the aftermath of his win on Saturday, where he clinically picked off Pacquiao from long range to score a deserved victory, that he would be willing to offer the eight-division world champion a rematch.
“Yes, I can come back in January. I will see about it,” Pacquiao told the website. “I know I can rematch him if I want. I’ll just need to tell (promoter) Al Haymon. That would be no problem.” Ugas said in the aftermath of his win on Saturday, where he clinically picked off Pacquiao from long range to score a deserved victory, that he would be willing to offer the eight-division world champion a rematch.
He wants to fight because he thinks he was not able to give his 100% in that fight, his legs were tight so he was not able to move well like he usually do in his previous fight, and we all witness that, so maybe let's give him a chance.
Please post some updates and speculation regarding the fight so this thread will be more informative.
Pacquiao is 42 years old and lost in this fight he should conform and accept this and retire rather than wanting another fight and ending badly for him, as some members have said here in this thread that his speed is no longer the same, his physical condition it's not the same because of his age, you don't need to be an expert to know that he would lose again if he fought again and could even end up with some injury, there's no sense in fighting again
Pacquiao once said that boxing is his passion, so no one can stop him as long as people would still watch his fight. Let us ony not talk about passion here, but more on the money or the purse, he will get. In the Philippine peso, in just one fight, he can already make a fortune so there's a reason why he keeps fighting because he also wants to collect that money.
look at this figure, and tell me if one would not choose to get it in just one fight.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2947447-pacquiao-vs-ugas-purse-known-prize-money-payout-distribution
look at this figure, and tell me if one would not choose to get it in just one fight.
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Per BusinessMirror, Pacquiao is expected to earn a $5 million guaranteed purse and could earn up to $25 million depending on how well the pay-per-view sold. The Fox Sports PPV price is $74.99, per Michael Benson of TalkSport.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2947447-pacquiao-vs-ugas-purse-known-prize-money-payout-distribution
As a Filipino and really wants to support every Filipino boxer and Manny Pacquiao is the all-time greatest, me a rematch is not really needed, I really think that he has now a frail body for a 42 of age, and I have seen in one of our mainstream media, he has been literally spooned feed by his wife Jinkee Pacquiao because he can not open his eyes because it was swollen after the fight with Yordenis Ugas, and that was for 3 days, I really think he doesn't really need that rematch and settle down with his family, but it is still his decision and right now his friend and Coach Buboy Fernandez said he wants a befitting end on Pacquiao boxing career, so a 1 more fight will surely not hurt him.
If Manny did listen to us he would not become where he is now, he definitely knows what he is doing, I understand the concern, but that loss is still one loss and he as a champion by heart would want to prove that despite his age, it's not a hindrance for him being successful. His corner still believes in him and it's normal that the first reaction after the loss is that a fighter would think of quitting, but later he realizes that he is a warrior and he wants to have another chance.
Now, I'm also convinced that Manny still has something to give, his speed is his advantage and hopefully, he can have that in the rematch.
As a Filipino and really wants to support every Filipino boxer and Manny Pacquiao is the all-time greatest, me a rematch is not really needed, I really think that he has now a frail body for a 42 of age, and I have seen in one of our mainstream media, he has been literally spooned feed by his wife Jinkee Pacquiao because he can not open his eyes because it was swollen after the fight with Yordenis Ugas, and that was for 3 days, I really think he doesn't really need that rematch and settle down with his family, but it is still his decision and right now his friend and Coach Buboy Fernandez said he wants a befitting end on Pacquiao boxing career, so a 1 more fight will surely not hurt him.
The speed isnt the same when he's still on his prime.The power isnt really that same calibre when he's still on his prime.
The footstep or lower body strength isnt the same.
and thats because of age and some mix of lacking of enough training due to other career that he's been taking.
I do agree that rematch isnt needed but if he wants too then lets just support it.
As a Filipino and really wants to support every Filipino boxer and Manny Pacquiao is the all-time greatest, me a rematch is not really needed, I really think that he has now a frail body for a 42 of age, and I have seen in one of our mainstream media, he has been literally spooned feed by his wife Jinkee Pacquiao because he can not open his eyes because it was swollen after the fight with Yordenis Ugas, and that was for 3 days, I really think he doesn't really need that rematch and settle down with his family, but it is still his decision and right now his friend and Coach Buboy Fernandez said he wants a befitting end on Pacquiao boxing career, so a 1 more fight will surely not hurt him.
Quick, check Manny's brain it seems to be damage, 
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Kidding aside, if he wants a rematch against Ugas, then let him fight. I also thought that he is done, but what a turn of events. Ugas is willing to give him that rematch so it can be done prior to the Philippine election in election in May. But if Manny losses then his political career goes to the drain as well.
.Kidding aside, if he wants a rematch against Ugas, then let him fight. I also thought that he is done, but what a turn of events. Ugas is willing to give him that rematch so it can be done prior to the Philippine election in election in May. But if Manny losses then his political career goes to the drain as well.
Quite funny, but maybe some nerve inside his brain got shaken
after that fight he already considering the possibilities of retiring, but after some days now he's thinking about the rematch.Oh well, just like what he said, it's easy to call for this fight since all he have to do is to call the promoters and give his side as he's willing to call for the rematch.
He was not convinced with Ugas defeat on him because he had some problems during the fight, it's very evident that he is not moving well and that is due to leg cramps he experience, once and for all let's give him a chance to fight as he knows what he is doing and he is in control of his body. There's still enough time for training, so I think next time if he loses, he cannot make excuses again.
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Also, maybe he's thinking that the win may lift up his Presidential bid survey.. Just Kidding 
Win or lose, his rating will not improve.
Quick, check Manny's brain it seems to be damage, .
Kidding aside, if he wants a rematch against Ugas, then let him fight. I also thought that he is done, but what a turn of events. Ugas is willing to give him that rematch so it can be done prior to the Philippine election in election in May. But if Manny losses then his political career goes to the drain as well.
.Kidding aside, if he wants a rematch against Ugas, then let him fight. I also thought that he is done, but what a turn of events. Ugas is willing to give him that rematch so it can be done prior to the Philippine election in election in May. But if Manny losses then his political career goes to the drain as well.
Quite funny, but maybe some nerve inside his brain got shaken
after that fight he already considering the possibilities of retiring, but after some days now he's thinking about the rematch.Oh well, just like what he said, it's easy to call for this fight since all he have to do is to call the promoters and give his side as he's willing to call for the rematch.
Also, maybe he's thinking that the win may lift up his Presidential bid survey.. Just Kidding
Quick, check Manny's brain it seems to be damage, .
Kidding aside, if he wants a rematch against Ugas, then let him fight. I also thought that he is done, but what a turn of events. Ugas is willing to give him that rematch so it can be done prior to the Philippine election in election in May. But if Manny losses then his political career goes to the drain as well.
.Kidding aside, if he wants a rematch against Ugas, then let him fight. I also thought that he is done, but what a turn of events. Ugas is willing to give him that rematch so it can be done prior to the Philippine election in election in May. But if Manny losses then his political career goes to the drain as well.
It should happen in January 2022 or there will be no rematch next year.
Based on the comelec rules, Manny will be busy by February because the campaign period will start.
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Based on the calendar of activities for the May 9, 2022 National and Local Elections (NLE) released by the poll body, the campaign period for national positions is from Feb. 8, 2022, to May 7, 2022, or 90 days before the scheduled elections.
source : https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1140697#:~:text=Based%20on%20the%20calendar%20of,days%20before%20the%20scheduled%20elections.
They underestimated Ugas and thought that it will be an easy fight for him, but they are all wrong as Manny was dominated in my eyes.
Their expectation is wrong but during the fight, we saw who dominate the fight and even a fan of Manny Pacquiao, we know he clearly lose in that fight. If he was 100% in that lose, the probably he will not ask for a rematch, but he was having a problem with his legged (probably overtrained), so this rematch is very important to try to get a win against the champion.
Quick, check Manny's brain it seems to be damage, .
Kidding aside, if he wants a rematch against Ugas, then let him fight. I also thought that he is done, but what a turn of events. Ugas is willing to give him that rematch so it can be done prior to the Philippine election in election in May. But if Manny losses then his political career goes to the drain as well.
.Kidding aside, if he wants a rematch against Ugas, then let him fight. I also thought that he is done, but what a turn of events. Ugas is willing to give him that rematch so it can be done prior to the Philippine election in election in May. But if Manny losses then his political career goes to the drain as well.
Supporters have accepted it already, in fact, they are suggesting that Manny should retire as he does not need to prove anything since he achieves the legendary status and is the only 8th division world champion, it's actually him who think he is not yet done and one more time, he wants to dance with Ugas.
If so, then at first glance Manny is still not satisfied and wants to once again prove his status as a Legendary boxer. But that's a fact, it's not just boxing athletes who are dissatisfied with the results of their fights. Moreover, those of us who bet we lost for supporting Manny, do we really deserve to bet back on him? I think many do not want to lose a second time. There are still many bets waiting instead of watching a rematch whose outcome will not be much different.
Manny is not satisfied because he thinks that Ugas is one of the easiest opponent, you don't expect to hear from a fight after he got dominated in the fight and beat him via unanimous decision, so there must be something and let us help him prove that in the 2nd fight or possibly the final match.
Supporters have accepted it already, in fact, they are suggesting that Manny should retire as he does not need to prove anything since he achieves the legendary status and is the only 8th division world champion, it's actually him who think he is not yet done and one more time, he wants to dance with Ugas.
If so, then at first glance Manny is still not satisfied and wants to once again prove his status as a Legendary boxer. But that's a fact, it's not just boxing athletes who are dissatisfied with the results of their fights. Moreover, those of us who bet we lost for supporting Manny, do we really deserve to bet back on him? I think many do not want to lose a second time. There are still many bets waiting instead of watching a rematch whose outcome will not be much different.
It seems like Manny Pacquiao is still interested on the rematch.
This news came up and we might see a rematch early next year.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/boxing/boxing-manny-pacquiao-vs-yordenis-ugas-rematch-latest-news-reaction-dates/news-story/a375d046b5266f71734a83fc998ddd06
He wants to fight because he thinks he was not able to give his 100% in that fight, his legs were tight so he was not able to move well like he usually do in his previous fight, and we all witness that, so maybe let's give him a chance.
Please post some updates and speculation regarding the fight so this thread will be more informative.
This news came up and we might see a rematch early next year.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/boxing/boxing-manny-pacquiao-vs-yordenis-ugas-rematch-latest-news-reaction-dates/news-story/a375d046b5266f71734a83fc998ddd06
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Pacquiao, 42, told The Athletic website that he may consider fighting Ugas again in January following his unanimous decision loss to the 35-year-old in Las Vegas on Saturday.
“Yes, I can come back in January. I will see about it,” Pacquiao told the website. “I know I can rematch him if I want. I’ll just need to tell (promoter) Al Haymon. That would be no problem.” Ugas said in the aftermath of his win on Saturday, where he clinically picked off Pacquiao from long range to score a deserved victory, that he would be willing to offer the eight-division world champion a rematch.
“Yes, I can come back in January. I will see about it,” Pacquiao told the website. “I know I can rematch him if I want. I’ll just need to tell (promoter) Al Haymon. That would be no problem.” Ugas said in the aftermath of his win on Saturday, where he clinically picked off Pacquiao from long range to score a deserved victory, that he would be willing to offer the eight-division world champion a rematch.
He wants to fight because he thinks he was not able to give his 100% in that fight, his legs were tight so he was not able to move well like he usually do in his previous fight, and we all witness that, so maybe let's give him a chance.
Please post some updates and speculation regarding the fight so this thread will be more informative.
Wow good!! This is great news, I like this on the part of Ugás, quite the opposite of Mayweather who when he fought against Pacquiao as soon as he finished told him that he did not want revenge, and this for me I see as a sign of fear, Ugás to come from a life He has managed to win for himself and his country very hard and I think a very ethical and sporting gesture that accepts that Pacquiao was not at his 100% and has the opportunity to face him again, he really is a boxer who deserves all the respect. It will be interesting that Pacquiao manages to prepare very well and we can see this meeting, I think that Pacquiao's age is not an impediment to the sport, on the contrary, he enjoys a great experience.
The circumstances have changed since he's still just a boxer. We all know he's a high ranking politician and I also read that he's planning to run for the highest position in his country next year. You have to wonder why he's going to fight again of all times. He needs more money for his political campaign for sure.
^ Possible reason and we have plenty of possible reasons that could be part of his plan, who knows. Upon research, many people did not agree about the highest position that he wanted to run, they respect Manny as a great boxer but not on the political career which is not good for him. A higher position means you have to take responsibility in your country which people don't see that he is suitable if he will remain as a senator which is possible.However, if Manny wants to have a rematch, then we think that the previous sounds like it was intended for the rematch, it means more money to come.
I support him, because Manny is a real boxer and his defeat against Ugas yesterday was beyond Manny's expectation because he felt he could beat him and maybe that's what made him curious.
Manny's fight yesterday in my opinion was good and dominant in attack only because he is not young anymore so his hitting and speed is reduced, and besides his range due to Ugas is tall and big which makes it difficult for Manny to get clean strokes because yesterday he trained for months for Errol Spence Jr. .
this is purely my judgment and I think the rematch will turn things around, and he will prepare training for Ugas.
Manny's fight yesterday in my opinion was good and dominant in attack only because he is not young anymore so his hitting and speed is reduced, and besides his range due to Ugas is tall and big which makes it difficult for Manny to get clean strokes because yesterday he trained for months for Errol Spence Jr. .
this is purely my judgment and I think the rematch will turn things around, and he will prepare training for Ugas.
Regarding Manny's defeat, I think the defeat must be accepted by the supporters, where this time Manny wants to try to show it again and ask for a rematch. Is Ugas really above Manny's abilities or has Manny lost his lethal fist?
Please, if Ugas can agree, then when Ugas wins again, all parties really have to admit that Ugas is already above Manny in terms of his agility.
Supporters have accepted it already, in fact, they are suggesting that Manny should retire as he does not need to prove anything since he achieves the legendary status and is the only 8th division world champion, it's actually him who think he is not yet done and one more time, he wants to dance with Ugas.
and its his life then its basically his rules.We are just here to watch out and support if you are an avid fan.
I cant really make out any complaints about the fight and it was really that worth. Ugas do really deserve to win basing up on his performance or on how he fights. You can see his advantage and make use of it
effectively.
Pacquiao winning this supposed rematch means there should be a 3rd bout. He's aiming to get a seat in the national government, and if he wins that seat, he will be forced to retire from boxing and just focus on his politics. I'm not feeling quite sure about the rematch, though I must agree that he wasn't able to bring his 100% in the fight due to his out-of-sync footwork and movements around the ring. We all saw that, though I don't think there is much for him to prove after that match. Goes to show that even gods bleed and that even the best fighters falter sometimes. Still, 8-division title holder is still 8-division title holder, and it's time to leave the gloves hanging and focus on something else. 2 decades being at the top is, IMO, extremely impressive for a sport like boxing.
The second match can boost his name and can be a good campaign strategy if he won on the rematch, it looks like a script but Manny wants this badly so they are working on this one for sure and Manny wants to retire as a winner and we all want that to see his winning again. He’s a world record holder there’s no doubt about that, Manny just need to do everything and be more active again on the ring for him to win against Ugas, this could be a good match again if ever. Damn, what the hell Manny is thinking. Seems like he is fooling his fans this time. Father time has already caught up with him, very evident on that Ugas fight, he can't avoid those slow punches that Ugas threw. His excuse why he had a hard time moving is he have cramps but Ugas was also not a hundred percent that time so if a rematch would take place then the result would still be the same.
It's seems that he is desperate for the money he is going to generate if he fights again. But then again, even his hardcore fans are suggesting that he should retire for good. He is already an icon in boxing.IMO, Manny is so desperate to add more popularity to his name because of his political ambition. He knows that his political career is on the downhill since the time he took a swipe at the sitting President. He may think that boxing could save his ass but he is so damn wrong.
And there are early survey saying that he also don't have a chance is he decided to run for the presidency. So it's a loss-loss situation for Manny except that he will get another huge pay check but that's it.Jump to: