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Astargath

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Quote from: michinzx on January 18, 2016, 02:33:42 PM

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It still puts the gambling addiction in you. So later in the future you will be more likely to deposit and play.

Well, OP already said his site does not allow users to deposit and also will never allow deposits. BTW, I do agree with the others that the site should be classified as a gambling site, as it is pretty much like someone going to PD and only playing with the faucet money.

Yeah in the end you will get ban from them because of abuse their faucet. Btw if deposit is never allow on this site I dont think it will never called gambling then because you dont really use your money to do things just like faucet that give you 500 sat each hour or something like that

Why would I ban someone?

Isn't it normal that someone who "abuses" (by using bots/multiple accounts) gets banned?

Quote from: Daijess on January 17, 2016, 08:54:48 AM

This is just like those app on game store , free digital money for you to play and you can buy free digital money with real money ..

We don't sell any credits.

I tried it and it's really cool but as people level up and are able to bet more, won't you end up loosing way too much money? I mean I know you have ad revenue but it's not going to be enough, I still feel like there is some kind of trick that you are not telling people.

I am good at creating demand for products, that's all.
There's no tricks here. Everything is legit

I'm going to add more games, which means more people will be coming on the site. That means more ad revenue (and faucet balance).

Hmm, yes but I, for example, have used the faucet and played the game for an a hour and I was able to make almost 5000 credits and that's only using 1 credit as initial bet, I can't imagine what would happen when someone can bet more, he could use a bot and get a net profit of 20k-50k per hour depending on luck and initial bet, I don't see how you are going to be able to cope with that but hey if you can, congratulations. As I said the site is pretty cool because of the +EV games.

put into perspective, thats at most 20 cents an hour, which is completely not worth the time and effort that might have been put into it and a complete waste of time imo. its funny how even then, a lot of people will claim playing with the faucet is profitable and "worth the time" no matter what because it enables them to gamble.

Well if he can detect botters then no it's not going to be worth it, obviously but 20 cents an hour are 4.8 dollars a day which is 144 dollars a month, thats for 1 user only, it's not a huge amount of money but you can see why it can be a problem if a lot of users do it, right?

Nimbulan

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you are not paid to gamble here, you just get a bonus that needs a lot of wagering in order to withdraw the money, though i wish you good luck trying to win enough

BoXXoB

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Well considering I personally have managed to build up faucet to nice amounts sometimes, I don't consider them useless at all... PD seemed to be the largest faucet around but BetKing.io seems to have added faucet now too, unlike on PD to get 10k faucet you need to wager thousands but on Betking 100 BTC wagered gets you a 10k satoshi faucet already... Wouldn't be hard to build that kind of amounts up imho.

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Quote from: Astargath on January 17, 2016, 02:06:12 PM

Quote from: mexicantarget on January 17, 2016, 12:19:39 PM

Quote from: Astargath on January 17, 2016, 10:24:25 AM

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Quote from: Blithe on January 15, 2016, 11:32:51 PM

It still puts the gambling addiction in you. So later in the future you will be more likely to deposit and play.

Well, OP already said his site does not allow users to deposit and also will never allow deposits. BTW, I do agree with the others that the site should be classified as a gambling site, as it is pretty much like someone going to PD and only playing with the faucet money.

Yeah in the end you will get ban from them because of abuse their faucet. Btw if deposit is never allow on this site I dont think it will never called gambling then because you dont really use your money to do things just like faucet that give you 500 sat each hour or something like that

Why would I ban someone?

Isn't it normal that someone who "abuses" (by using bots/multiple accounts) gets banned?

Quote from: Daijess on January 17, 2016, 08:54:48 AM

This is just like those app on game store , free digital money for you to play and you can buy free digital money with real money ..

We don't sell any credits.

I tried it and it's really cool but as people level up and are able to bet more, won't you end up loosing way too much money? I mean I know you have ad revenue but it's not going to be enough, I still feel like there is some kind of trick that you are not telling people.

I am good at creating demand for products, that's all.
There's no tricks here. Everything is legit

I'm going to add more games, which means more people will be coming on the site. That means more ad revenue (and faucet balance).

Hmm, yes but I, for example, have used the faucet and played the game for an a hour and I was able to make almost 5000 credits and that's only using 1 credit as initial bet, I can't imagine what would happen when someone can bet more, he could use a bot and get a net profit of 20k-50k per hour depending on luck and initial bet, I don't see how you are going to be able to cope with that but hey if you can, congratulations. As I said the site is pretty cool because of the +EV games.

put into perspective, thats at most 20 cents an hour, which is completely not worth the time and effort that might have been put into it and a complete waste of time imo. its funny how even then, a lot of people will claim playing with the faucet is profitable and "worth the time" no matter what because it enables them to gamble.

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Quote from: thejaytiesto on January 18, 2016, 02:21:57 PM

I wouldn't do this for too long, to start and get the ball rolling it would be good, but Google is really good at catching people driving fake traffic on websites. If you are not using AdSense maybe its not that much a problem, but I would still be wary of driving fake traffic to your site for a long time.

I'm not sure why are you assuming that I'm driving fake traffic on a legit project?

Does this look like fake traffic?

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I wouldn't do this for too long, to start and get the ball rolling it would be good, but Google is really good at catching people driving fake traffic on websites. If you are not using AdSense maybe its not that much a problem, but I would still be wary of driving fake traffic to your site for a long time.

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Quote from: Astargath on January 17, 2016, 02:06:12 PM

Quote from: mexicantarget on January 17, 2016, 12:19:39 PM

Quote from: Astargath on January 17, 2016, 10:24:25 AM

Quote from: mexicantarget on January 17, 2016, 08:57:13 AM

Quote from: BTCevo on January 17, 2016, 06:14:44 AM

Quote from: Dennis7777 on January 16, 2016, 03:26:37 AM

Quote from: Blithe on January 15, 2016, 11:32:51 PM

It still puts the gambling addiction in you. So later in the future you will be more likely to deposit and play.

Well, OP already said his site does not allow users to deposit and also will never allow deposits. BTW, I do agree with the others that the site should be classified as a gambling site, as it is pretty much like someone going to PD and only playing with the faucet money.

Yeah in the end you will get ban from them because of abuse their faucet. Btw if deposit is never allow on this site I dont think it will never called gambling then because you dont really use your money to do things just like faucet that give you 500 sat each hour or something like that

Why would I ban someone?

Isn't it normal that someone who "abuses" (by using bots/multiple accounts) gets banned?

Quote from: Daijess on January 17, 2016, 08:54:48 AM

This is just like those app on game store , free digital money for you to play and you can buy free digital money with real money ..

We don't sell any credits.

I tried it and it's really cool but as people level up and are able to bet more, won't you end up loosing way too much money? I mean I know you have ad revenue but it's not going to be enough, I still feel like there is some kind of trick that you are not telling people.

I am good at creating demand for products, that's all.
There's no tricks here. Everything is legit

I'm going to add more games, which means more people will be coming on the site. That means more ad revenue (and faucet balance).

Hmm, yes but I, for example, have used the faucet and played the game for an a hour and I was able to make almost 5000 credits and that's only using 1 credit as initial bet, I can't imagine what would happen when someone can bet more, he could use a bot and get a net profit of 20k-50k per hour depending on luck and initial bet, I don't see how you are going to be able to cope with that but hey if you can, congratulations. As I said the site is pretty cool because of the +EV games.

Botters will be banned. I have a custom detection system, so that's not an issue.
I do auto+manual audits each day to see who's botting.

Botters wont be able to withdraw their coins. That's the "catch"

The other catch is, levels. Users spend most of their faucet bitcoin on upgrades. It will take time to achieve bigger levels in order to set me back

Astargath

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Quote from: mexicantarget on January 17, 2016, 12:19:39 PM

Quote from: Astargath on January 17, 2016, 10:24:25 AM

Quote from: mexicantarget on January 17, 2016, 08:57:13 AM

Quote from: BTCevo on January 17, 2016, 06:14:44 AM

Quote from: Dennis7777 on January 16, 2016, 03:26:37 AM

Quote from: Blithe on January 15, 2016, 11:32:51 PM

It still puts the gambling addiction in you. So later in the future you will be more likely to deposit and play.

Well, OP already said his site does not allow users to deposit and also will never allow deposits. BTW, I do agree with the others that the site should be classified as a gambling site, as it is pretty much like someone going to PD and only playing with the faucet money.

Yeah in the end you will get ban from them because of abuse their faucet. Btw if deposit is never allow on this site I dont think it will never called gambling then because you dont really use your money to do things just like faucet that give you 500 sat each hour or something like that

Why would I ban someone?

Isn't it normal that someone who "abuses" (by using bots/multiple accounts) gets banned?

Quote from: Daijess on January 17, 2016, 08:54:48 AM

This is just like those app on game store , free digital money for you to play and you can buy free digital money with real money ..

We don't sell any credits.

I tried it and it's really cool but as people level up and are able to bet more, won't you end up loosing way too much money? I mean I know you have ad revenue but it's not going to be enough, I still feel like there is some kind of trick that you are not telling people.

I am good at creating demand for products, that's all.
There's no tricks here. Everything is legit

I'm going to add more games, which means more people will be coming on the site. That means more ad revenue (and faucet balance).

Hmm, yes but I, for example, have used the faucet and played the game for an a hour and I was able to make almost 5000 credits and that's only using 1 credit as initial bet, I can't imagine what would happen when someone can bet more, he could use a bot and get a net profit of 20k-50k per hour depending on luck and initial bet, I don't see how you are going to be able to cope with that but hey if you can, congratulations. As I said the site is pretty cool because of the +EV games.

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This is really interesting, now you will feel that you did not actually spent money on gambling and yet stand a chance of winning, so its nice.
But I think the time you spent to get the bitcoins from faucet is already your investment.

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Quote from: Astargath on January 17, 2016, 10:24:25 AM

Quote from: mexicantarget on January 17, 2016, 08:57:13 AM

Quote from: BTCevo on January 17, 2016, 06:14:44 AM

Quote from: Dennis7777 on January 16, 2016, 03:26:37 AM

Quote from: Blithe on January 15, 2016, 11:32:51 PM

It still puts the gambling addiction in you. So later in the future you will be more likely to deposit and play.

Well, OP already said his site does not allow users to deposit and also will never allow deposits. BTW, I do agree with the others that the site should be classified as a gambling site, as it is pretty much like someone going to PD and only playing with the faucet money.

Yeah in the end you will get ban from them because of abuse their faucet. Btw if deposit is never allow on this site I dont think it will never called gambling then because you dont really use your money to do things just like faucet that give you 500 sat each hour or something like that

Why would I ban someone?

Isn't it normal that someone who "abuses" (by using bots/multiple accounts) gets banned?

Quote from: Daijess on January 17, 2016, 08:54:48 AM

This is just like those app on game store , free digital money for you to play and you can buy free digital money with real money ..

We don't sell any credits.

I tried it and it's really cool but as people level up and are able to bet more, won't you end up loosing way too much money? I mean I know you have ad revenue but it's not going to be enough, I still feel like there is some kind of trick that you are not telling people.

I am good at creating demand for products, that's all.
There's no tricks here. Everything is legit

I'm going to add more games, which means more people will be coming on the site. That means more ad revenue (and faucet balance).

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Quote from: mexicantarget on January 12, 2016, 05:57:41 AM

If you're getting free coins from a faucet, and that site has a casino, which DOESN'T allow you to deposit ANY funds, is it considered as gambling if you use/play any of those games?

Been trying to figure out this thing for a week, but there's so much contradiction for both answers, so I am not sure how to pick "the right" answer, if there is one.

EDIT: I'm talking about the site in my signature.

well i think you can call it gambling but it becomes just a game if you don't deposit anything.

and as long as the game that you are playing (casino, dice or whatever it is) is fun to play and not just waste of time, then i guess it becomes the best thing ever because you will practically get paid to play a game similar to what that counter-strike server was like

Astargath

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Quote from: mexicantarget on January 17, 2016, 08:57:13 AM

Quote from: BTCevo on January 17, 2016, 06:14:44 AM

Quote from: Dennis7777 on January 16, 2016, 03:26:37 AM

Quote from: Blithe on January 15, 2016, 11:32:51 PM

It still puts the gambling addiction in you. So later in the future you will be more likely to deposit and play.

Well, OP already said his site does not allow users to deposit and also will never allow deposits. BTW, I do agree with the others that the site should be classified as a gambling site, as it is pretty much like someone going to PD and only playing with the faucet money.

Yeah in the end you will get ban from them because of abuse their faucet. Btw if deposit is never allow on this site I dont think it will never called gambling then because you dont really use your money to do things just like faucet that give you 500 sat each hour or something like that

Why would I ban someone?

Isn't it normal that someone who "abuses" (by using bots/multiple accounts) gets banned?

Quote from: Daijess on January 17, 2016, 08:54:48 AM

This is just like those app on game store , free digital money for you to play and you can buy free digital money with real money ..

We don't sell any credits.

I tried it and it's really cool but as people level up and are able to bet more, won't you end up loosing way too much money? I mean I know you have ad revenue but it's not going to be enough, I still feel like there is some kind of trick that you are not telling people.

mexicantarget

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Quote from: BTCevo on January 17, 2016, 06:14:44 AM

Quote from: Dennis7777 on January 16, 2016, 03:26:37 AM

Quote from: Blithe on January 15, 2016, 11:32:51 PM

It still puts the gambling addiction in you. So later in the future you will be more likely to deposit and play.

Well, OP already said his site does not allow users to deposit and also will never allow deposits. BTW, I do agree with the others that the site should be classified as a gambling site, as it is pretty much like someone going to PD and only playing with the faucet money.

Yeah in the end you will get ban from them because of abuse their faucet. Btw if deposit is never allow on this site I dont think it will never called gambling then because you dont really use your money to do things just like faucet that give you 500 sat each hour or something like that

Why would I ban someone?

Isn't it normal that someone who "abuses" (by using bots/multiple accounts) gets banned?

Quote from: Daijess on January 17, 2016, 08:54:48 AM

This is just like those app on game store , free digital money for you to play and you can buy free digital money with real money ..

We don't sell any credits.

Daijess

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This is just like those app on game store , free digital money for you to play and you can buy free digital money with real money ..

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Quote from: BTCevo on January 17, 2016, 06:14:44 AM

Yeah in the end you will get ban from them because of abuse their faucet. Btw if deposit is never allow on this site I dont think it will never called gambling then because you dont really use your money to do things just like faucet that give you 500 sat each hour or something like that

The site is built as a faucet. Just like the other faucets, it collects revenue with ads impressions and clicks and share part of it with its users. I doubt OP will ban the frequent users. Instead, he should be more than happy if you stay on his site all the day.

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Quote from: Dennis7777 on January 16, 2016, 03:26:37 AM

Quote from: Blithe on January 15, 2016, 11:32:51 PM

It still puts the gambling addiction in you. So later in the future you will be more likely to deposit and play.

Well, OP already said his site does not allow users to deposit and also will never allow deposits. BTW, I do agree with the others that the site should be classified as a gambling site, as it is pretty much like someone going to PD and only playing with the faucet money.

Yeah in the end you will get ban from them because of abuse their faucet. Btw if deposit is never allow on this site I dont think it will never called gambling then because you dont really use your money to do things just like faucet that give you 500 sat each hour or something like that

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well if u invest ur time to get the faucet, den it is urs. but u decide to take the chance to double it, so that is still gambling. you can choose to keep it and wait till u got enough to withdraw or so.

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Quote from: Inkvor on January 17, 2016, 03:21:03 AM

Quote from: MyBTT on January 17, 2016, 02:54:09 AM

Quote from: jjacob on January 16, 2016, 11:51:18 PM

Quote from: Rizky Aditya on January 15, 2016, 11:43:42 PM

It is still gambling as you are spending bits of Bitcoin, which you earned from a faucet which you used your time on. I would consider it gambling. Huh

It is "technically" gambling, but it is not going to ruin your life.
So in that regard, it is okay.

It is definitely gambling as you are betting real money. Even if you earned it from a faucet it is still considered gambling.

I think his signature says user' always wins and if there is no loss then it is not risky anymore and so it cannot be considered as gambling.If you have the only chance to win then it's like guaranteed money/profit from investments etc...

If I understand it correctly, OP has only made the slot payout high enough such that the game is profitable to play (+EV from the viewpoint of users) It doesn't mean users always win.

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Quote from: mexicantarget on January 12, 2016, 05:57:41 AM

If you're getting free coins from a faucet, and that site has a casino, which DOESN'T allow you to deposit ANY funds, is it considered as gambling if you use/play any of those games?

Been trying to figure out this thing for a week, but there's so much contradiction for both answers, so I am not sure how to pick "the right" answer, if there is one.

EDIT: I'm talking about the site in my signature.

I think it's still gambling, because you still use your own bitcoin and it's from a faucet. As long as you still using your bitcoin for gambling is still gambling.

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Quote from: MyBTT on January 17, 2016, 02:54:09 AM

Quote from: jjacob on January 16, 2016, 11:51:18 PM

Quote from: Rizky Aditya on January 15, 2016, 11:43:42 PM

It is still gambling as you are spending bits of Bitcoin, which you earned from a faucet which you used your time on. I would consider it gambling. Huh

It is "technically" gambling, but it is not going to ruin your life.
So in that regard, it is okay.

It is definitely gambling as you are betting real money. Even if you earned it from a faucet it is still considered gambling.

I think his signature says user' always wins and if there is no loss then it is not risky anymore and so it cannot be considered as gambling.If you have the only chance to win then it's like guaranteed money/profit from investments etc...

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