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Topic: Pakistan's Economy are going to crisis for Taliban? (Read 475 times)

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The terrorist issue spells doom for Afghanistan and Economic doom for its neighboring states. The constant deterioration of the economy of Pakistan, as shown in the post OP made painted a big picture of why terrorism is a very serious crime to commit, not only do they jeopardize a singular country but for situations and countries like Afghanistan that is landlocked, the cancer could spread to its neighbors, bringing them down the mire as well.
This isn't happening now, the situation is getting worsen long back itself. Along with this the pandemic made a bigger blow over the entire economic situation. The impact of Taliban will make the economy shrunk. Last year Saudi Arabia government demanded back $3bn loan repayment to be settled within specific time period. There is political play, still this action might've been taken understanding the situation of Pakistan. This way the economy has begun to collapse long back, Taliban's are part of it.
That would make sense. Not to downplay the effects of a terrorist scheme could commit but then again it's still puzzling to think that Taliban alone is enough to bring down the economy of multiple countries. and surprise-surprise, there had been political issues as well that are hidden in plain-sight but is overlooked because Talibans pose a much more serious threat at the moment.
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Oh yeah bro you are right and I also knew cause I am also from that country. And that should not happen. Because this country is in big crisis. And also it's also falling down day by day cause of many flaws. As experts are saying that it's GDP would be less than in whole Aisa. And that's very Tragic. And now Taliban situation added more tense to Pakistan economy.
Well.. if you are indeed from Pakistan, then you will be more aware of the situation. The economy has contracted, at a time when the neighboring nations are witnessing rapid economic growth. The China funded One Belt One Road (OBOR) project hasn't delivered the boost which they were hoping for (which is understandable given the worsening security situation). One big factor was the elevation of Mohammad Bin Salman Al Saud in Saudi Arabia. The economic support Pakistan used to receive from Saudi Arabia trickled down to almost nothing after this.
I am also feeling there are few issues regarding OBOR but most of the peoples not understanding all situation and giving their own comments because we are under some serious propaganda as well from few losers in Afghanistan war.

Right now many countries are under serious troubles and facing issues, but they are fighting and solving same happening here in Pakistan but here we have to people those not know about anything and just saying it's sinking and doing down day by day it's completely wrong because every patient need sometime for recovery, so it's also going in same way just chill and enjoy please never take things so seriously.
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China, Russia, and Pakistan sent their envoys to Kabul, Afghanistan from Tuesday (21/9) to Wednesday (22/9). Yue Xiaoyong was the special envoy for the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Zamir Kabulov was the special envoy for the Russian President for Afghanistan, and Mohammad Sadiq was the special envoy for the Pakistani Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

The three ambassadors met acting Prime Minister of Afghanistan, Hasan Akhund, Minister of Foreign Affairs Amir Khan Muttaqi, acting Minister of Finance Hidayatullah Badri, and a number of other senior Taliban officials.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian said that the arrival of the three envoys was at the invitation of the Taliban. According to Zhao, they held discussions about the development of the situation in Afghanistan.

from what i see, Pakistan has a big enough stake in the victory of the Taliban, you say that the Pakistan economy will be in crisis is very unlikely.  China has a sizeable investment in Pakistan, they (China) will definitely support the Pakistan economy when in difficult times.
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Oh yeah bro you are right and I also knew cause I am also from that country. And that should not happen. Because this country is in big crisis. And also it's also falling down day by day cause of many flaws. As experts are saying that it's GDP would be less than in whole Aisa. And that's very Tragic. And now Taliban situation added more tense to Pakistan economy.

Well.. if you are indeed from Pakistan, then you will be more aware of the situation. The economy has contracted, at a time when the neighboring nations are witnessing rapid economic growth. The China funded One Belt One Road (OBOR) project hasn't delivered the boost which they were hoping for (which is understandable given the worsening security situation). One big factor was the elevation of Mohammad Bin Salman Al Saud in Saudi Arabia. The economic support Pakistan used to receive from Saudi Arabia trickled down to almost nothing after this.
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Amid decreasing Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) floes, Pakistan's economy is expected to shrnik further, flowing Afghanistan's current situation.

According to Dawn (Pakistan's official news pepar), the consistent decline in flows into Pakistan in recent years should worry the country's economic managers.

The net flows fell by just under 39% year-on-year in July in continuation of the trend witnessed last fiscal when,
Long-term, non-debt-creating investments plummeted by 29% to 1.85 billion dollars from the previous year, the Dawn reported.

      Is this right?
Oh yeah bro you are right and I also knew cause I am also from that country. And that should not happen. Because this country is in big crisis. And also it's also falling down day by day cause of many flaws. As experts are saying that it's GDP would be less than in whole Aisa. And that's very Tragic. And now Taliban situation added more tense to Pakistan economy.
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This isn't happening now, the situation is getting worsen long back itself. Along with this the pandemic made a bigger blow over the entire economic situation. The impact of Taliban will make the economy shrunk. Last year Saudi Arabia government demanded back $3bn loan repayment to be settled within specific time period. There is political play, still this action might've been taken understanding the situation of Pakistan. This way the economy has begun to collapse long back, Taliban's are part of it.

Pakistan has recently fallen out with Saudi Arabia and now they are more inclined towards Qatar. With the LNG prices about to reach $1,000 per thousand cubic meters, I guess Qatar has enough funds to keep Pakistan afloat. But the big question is what they want in return. The Pakistan-Turkey-Qatar axis has been making some big moves recently at the global stage. Afghanistan is just another entry in the long list, that also includes Nagorno Karabakh, Syria, Libya and Yemen. This axis is fast emerging as a competitor to the US-Saudi Arabia alliance.
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This isn't happening now, the situation is getting worsen long back itself. Along with this the pandemic made a bigger blow over the entire economic situation. The impact of Taliban will make the economy shrunk. Last year Saudi Arabia government demanded back $3bn loan repayment to be settled within specific time period. There is political play, still this action might've been taken understanding the situation of Pakistan. This way the economy has begun to collapse long back, Taliban's are part of it.
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Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, conflict, and the failures of past governments and their corruption, the humanitarian situation in Afghanistan is dire, with nearly 18 million Afghans in urgent need of humanitarian assistance.

The international community must learn from the past and must remain engaged in Afghanistan because instability or economic collapse will perpetuate the conflict and prolong the suffering of the people in Afghanistan.

Today Afghanistan is at a critical juncture in its history.  The Afghan people can, with the support of the international community, restore peace and revive development prospects.
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I still can't get over how everything with Afghanistan went down.  It's an absolute embarrassment to my country, the United States. All I can't help but think is that something very fishy was/is going on.  You don't just fight a 1 trillion dollar war and then all of a sudden just say "hey, we're out".  I feel horrible for the people in both Afghan and Pakistan, it can't be an easy way of life there no matter what.
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It seems that the economic impact in Pakistan has nothing to do with helping the Taliban, because Pakistan itself is in economic crisis than before, in Afghanistan there are several countries that have helped the Taliban like Turkey, China and even the US, but they are not affected by their economy because they have helped Afghanistan or the Taliban

Pakistan certainly has an impact with Afghanistan after being controlled by the Taliban, they are 2 countries but there are many similarities in the population there, I hope Pakistan can play an active role in helping Afghanistan so that it can create better economic and political conditions than before.
Its true that two countries has many similarities .The main theme is for them is religion but why they become act like as terrorist .I actually never get that two countries has different terrorist group they actually has negativity about their economy .They always fight for the power never for religion .However we have seen that how Taliban has act on the past when they were in power .Once again Afghanistan are in deep trouble with their economy and security .The situation of the border are same as Pakistan .Two countries is actually surviving with their economy and it will never be solved if nothing happen to set the peace here .
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Amid decreasing Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) floes, Pakistan's economy is expected to shrnik further, flowing Afghanistan's current situation.

According to Dawn (Pakistan's official news pepar), the consistent decline in flows into Pakistan in recent years should worry the country's economic managers.

The net flows fell by just under 39% year-on-year in July in continuation of the trend witnessed last fiscal when,
Long-term, non-debt-creating investments plummeted by 29% to 1.85 billion dollars from the previous year, the Dawn reported.

      Is this right?

I am not sure about Pakistan, I think it is certainly going to be impacted, but Afghanistan has certainly thrown away one of the best chances of modernising the country that it ever had. While US did not have any intention of helping, the fact remains that they were sending plenty of aid that has been mostly lost to corruption.

Their economy will now have to do without the huge money pumps from the US. My take is that Pakistan will suffer the side effects as well.
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Pakistan is a country with a depressed economy and extremely troubled society, mainly terrorism as well as crime. I have read a lot about this country and they are one of the most troublesome countries. security is very poor and terrorism occurs continuously in many places.
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It is an uncomfortable situation for the country of Pakistan that with its internal problems they also have to deal with the Taliban as well as the displaced Afghans. I believe that countries that support Afghan refugees will receive international support.

I think it is a good solution to be able to help the poor Afghans who were left with nothing.
In any case, the Taliban are being watched because of the danger that they represent as a violent and rebellious group.

But I also understand that Pakistan's economy will also worsen unless they receive more international support.
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US will have to compete with China as to who should Pakistan be friendlier with. The offer of China to Pakistan and Afghanistan to be part of their silkroad plans will probably be materialized now that there will be an authority (Talibans) there in Afghanistan. China legitimizing Taliban as the authority in Afghanistan will likely be accepted by many as well.

But they have to fight other forces again. Odd as it may seem, Talibans and US army are already joining forces to fight ISIS. Now they only have one enemy. It looks like a scene from a movie right?

China doesn't really care about terrorism or human rights and they can afford to enter into an alliance with the Taliban. And Russia seems to be following the same footsteps. The US government doesn't have this freedom. However, in retaliation the United States can strengthen their relationship with India. But the current Democrat administration is not seen as very friendly towards India (unlike the previous one headed by Trump). But in order to take a stance, the US first of all need to have a president who can make decisions on his own. Biden is simply not fit for the job.
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Pakistan's economy was predicted by the US government and the US poured money into the country for political and military control. Pakistan's economy is empty and has no momentum. The Taliban take over and they will have to reform their ways to get Pakistan's economy going.
The Americans have failed and they will impose sanctions on Pakistan to contain this force, but they have the backing of Russia and some other countries so its economic recovery can be difficult. difficulty.
After each economic stagnation is normal, they need political stability before embarking on economic development.
Don't forget that China has been secretly helping the Taliban and now they have a more intimate relationship with both Pakistan and the Taliban.
because according to some sources China has poured both funds and weapons to the Taliban to support their victory in Afghanistan, and now it is evident that they have asked for the conditions of the Taliban victory now.
It is clear that apart from China, they need economic concessions, they also have a conflict with Uighur Muslims who want independence for the Uyghurs in China. By considering the Taliban as brothers, they hope that the Taliban can suppress Muslims in the Uighurs at least they (Taliban) are not in alliance with fellow Muslims who are in the Uighurs.
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Right now the current scenario is very difficult, because obviously nobody wants to invest there, because they fear that they may have the greatest of all possible losses, however this represents opportunities for countries like China and Russia that have stated that they are comfortable with what they are. have done in Afghanistan, it is necessary to make known the different given scenarios, but even if they find help from countries like Russia or China, they can get loans but with high interest rates, obviously these nearby countries tend to enter into a certain devaluation, because what gives them the most to people is fear.

And fear is one of the determining emotions in the economy, in financial markets it tends to generate mistrust, I would say that it is very difficult to determine what will happen, the USA can unleash an imminent war, the situation is delicate.
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That could be Afghanistan you are talking about. I mean yeah sure Pakistan has a lot of shit going on in the nation and they are tied with USA as well that is all very true, but Taliban will not take over Pakistan or at least did not do so right now, they did it to Afghanistan instead. Pakistan is not doing well because their economy is in a stagnant stage and that is the main problem they are having right now, the moment they end up fixing it, they will get back on track or just like many other nations right now they will bankrupt and be a financially bad nation.

I am sorry but the whole world is in financial trouble right now, doesn't matter which nation you are, it is worse than 10 years ago and 10 years ago was the famous 2008 and aftermath, so that being even worse right now is a horrible situation, it is surreal that we manage to cripple the economy of the whole world this easily.

Pakistan also used to receive a lot of foreign aid from the United States and the United Kingdom until very recently. And in case of UK, Pkaistan still remains as the top recipient of foreign aid. And it is no secret that a large part of the $1-2 trillion USD invested by the US in Afghanistan was spent in Pakistan. It was Pakistan which provided logistical support and army bases to the NATO forces. Pakistani economy has been stagnant for well over a decade now. Foreign investment has dried out due to terrorist attacks and the high population growth puts a strain on resources that are already scarce.

US will have to compete with China as to who should Pakistan be friendlier with. The offer of China to Pakistan and Afghanistan to be part of their silkroad plans will probably be materialized now that there will be an authority (Talibans) there in Afghanistan. China legitimizing Taliban as the authority in Afghanistan will likely be accepted by many as well.

But they have to fight other forces again. Odd as it may seem, Talibans and US army are already joining forces to fight ISIS. Now they only have one enemy. It looks like a scene from a movie right?
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That could be Afghanistan you are talking about. I mean yeah sure Pakistan has a lot of shit going on in the nation and they are tied with USA as well that is all very true, but Taliban will not take over Pakistan or at least did not do so right now, they did it to Afghanistan instead. Pakistan is not doing well because their economy is in a stagnant stage and that is the main problem they are having right now, the moment they end up fixing it, they will get back on track or just like many other nations right now they will bankrupt and be a financially bad nation.

I am sorry but the whole world is in financial trouble right now, doesn't matter which nation you are, it is worse than 10 years ago and 10 years ago was the famous 2008 and aftermath, so that being even worse right now is a horrible situation, it is surreal that we manage to cripple the economy of the whole world this easily.

Pakistan also used to receive a lot of foreign aid from the United States and the United Kingdom until very recently. And in case of UK, Pkaistan still remains as the top recipient of foreign aid. And it is no secret that a large part of the $1-2 trillion USD invested by the US in Afghanistan was spent in Pakistan. It was Pakistan which provided logistical support and army bases to the NATO forces. Pakistani economy has been stagnant for well over a decade now. Foreign investment has dried out due to terrorist attacks and the high population growth puts a strain on resources that are already scarce.
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Pakistan's economy was predicted by the US government and the US poured money into the country for political and military control. Pakistan's economy is empty and has no momentum. The Taliban take over and they will have to reform their ways to get Pakistan's economy going.
The Americans have failed and they will impose sanctions on Pakistan to contain this force, but they have the backing of Russia and some other countries so its economic recovery can be difficult. difficulty.
After each economic stagnation is normal, they need political stability before embarking on economic development.
That could be Afghanistan you are talking about. I mean yeah sure Pakistan has a lot of shit going on in the nation and they are tied with USA as well that is all very true, but Taliban will not take over Pakistan or at least did not do so right now, they did it to Afghanistan instead. Pakistan is not doing well because their economy is in a stagnant stage and that is the main problem they are having right now, the moment they end up fixing it, they will get back on track or just like many other nations right now they will bankrupt and be a financially bad nation.

I am sorry but the whole world is in financial trouble right now, doesn't matter which nation you are, it is worse than 10 years ago and 10 years ago was the famous 2008 and aftermath, so that being even worse right now is a horrible situation, it is surreal that we manage to cripple the economy of the whole world this easily.

I was confused between Pakistan and Afghanistan. I agree with your point of view. The world economy is facing many uncertainties. The pandemic is still going on, economic activity is struggling. This row has dozens of businesses closed because of losses.
There's nothing else we can do about fighting the epidemic and trying to keep the economy under control.
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Pakistan's economy was predicted by the US government and the US poured money into the country for political and military control. Pakistan's economy is empty and has no momentum. The Taliban take over and they will have to reform their ways to get Pakistan's economy going.
The Americans have failed and they will impose sanctions on Pakistan to contain this force, but they have the backing of Russia and some other countries so its economic recovery can be difficult. difficulty.
After each economic stagnation is normal, they need political stability before embarking on economic development.
That could be Afghanistan you are talking about. I mean yeah sure Pakistan has a lot of shit going on in the nation and they are tied with USA as well that is all very true, but Taliban will not take over Pakistan or at least did not do so right now, they did it to Afghanistan instead. Pakistan is not doing well because their economy is in a stagnant stage and that is the main problem they are having right now, the moment they end up fixing it, they will get back on track or just like many other nations right now they will bankrupt and be a financially bad nation.

I am sorry but the whole world is in financial trouble right now, doesn't matter which nation you are, it is worse than 10 years ago and 10 years ago was the famous 2008 and aftermath, so that being even worse right now is a horrible situation, it is surreal that we manage to cripple the economy of the whole world this easily.
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