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Hi Guys,

I have kept pretty quiet today as I wanted to see what the general tone is from people.

There are a few things that are abundantly obvious

1. We have grown incredibly fast for a 5 day old coin and a lot of people can see that.. we have over 100k views on here with almost 200 pages..

2. however, contained within those 200 pages is a lot of mixed feedback from people and thats completely fair, we expect it and we/I am doing my best to address all points in the politest way possible in order to bring some order to all the cries of scamming and whatever else.

3. A lot of you guys who are hating on the coin seem to forget that there are a team of people behind this coin, not just Wolong. What I mean by this, is that whilst wolongs is indeed involved, you need to set aside your opinions of him for a minute and consider the other team members on board whilst making an informed decision as to whether or not this coin is for you.

4. Our devs have a very good track record with UNO and it has been an established coin for a long time - I know first hand that not a single person on the team would put themselves in a position where their reputations could be irreparably damaged, myself included, even just from the point of view of being a community facing team member.

5. Lets focus on the bigger picture here.. will this coin succeed? Who knows.. time will certainly tell, but we will be doing our utmost to make that a certainty every step of the way, i can promise you that

6. Lets address the elephant in the room.. Wolong.. is it fair to say that he is not doing this out of some huge altruistic gesture? Absolutely, and it would be stupid to think that. Second, lets not beat around the bush, everyone is involved with crypto for financial gain and what not, the community aspect is fantastic and that is no doubt a secondary reason as to why people are here. Do I believe that wolong is going to make OTHER people money? I don't know, but I hear he has already, multiple times over.. Does that mean that I will personally stake my life savings on his words/promises and whatever else.. absolutely not, but thats not bceause i don't trust the guy, its beacuse thats just my character and i want to be open about it, but thats me.

7. The whole argument with regard to innovation - this is going to become a moot point in a month or so when the vast majority of coins being released are goign to be implementing these technologies as they are a much needed market correction which IN MY OPINION should be rolled out as the defacto way of building new alts (that is with N and KGW). I know a lot of you guys are rooting for vert..but theres no need to 'root' for anyone, we are not at war here and we can certainly each have our own market share without stepping on eachothers toes. We live in an open source community where the drive is to create innovation which can be shared.. not get in to troll pseudo-patent wars over something that is actually going to benefit both past and present devs of new alts.


to summarise -  I would like to give you my unbiased opinion, and i sincerely hope that to both 'schools of thought' here you will take me at my word.
you are all entitled for your own personal reasons to make your own decisions on wolong.. but please be more considerate to the fact that wolong is not doing anything day-to-day to maintain PANDA from a tech standpoint, the network or speak to you all for the most part and to please realise that there are many moving parts to this machine and we hope that whilst your opinion of wolong may be slightly 'low'.. we encourage you to look beyond that to what we are trying to do and work toward as a community.

I am in no way trying to 'win anyone over' here, i am just trying to be fair with those who have taken it upon themselves to hammer this thread with accusations, big black and red letters and all-round mention of distrust/disgust for the guy.

Like I have said from day 1, you are not being forced to mine the coin, we appreciate your view if you are not interested and we are massively grateful to everyone who has jumped on the PANDA bamboo canoe and taken a ride with us, its going to be great

sev



Nice one man.

Let me confess, i was a hater at first but became a believer now
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Hi Guys,

I have kept pretty quiet today as I wanted to see what the general tone is from people.

There are a few things that are abundantly obvious

1. We have grown incredibly fast for a 5 day old coin and a lot of people can see that.. we have over 100k views on here with almost 200 pages..

2. however, contained within those 200 pages is a lot of mixed feedback from people and thats completely fair, we expect it and we/I am doing my best to address all points in the politest way possible in order to bring some order to all the cries of scamming and whatever else.

3. A lot of you guys who are hating on the coin seem to forget that there are a team of people behind this coin, not just Wolong. What I mean by this, is that whilst wolongs is indeed involved, you need to set aside your opinions of him for a minute and consider the other team members on board whilst making an informed decision as to whether or not this coin is for you.

4. Our devs have a very good track record with UNO and it has been an established coin for a long time - I know first hand that not a single person on the team would put themselves in a position where their reputations could be irreparably damaged, myself included, even just from the point of view of being a community facing team member.

5. Lets focus on the bigger picture here.. will this coin succeed? Who knows.. time will certainly tell, but we will be doing our utmost to make that a certainty every step of the way, i can promise you that

6. Lets address the elephant in the room.. Wolong.. is it fair to say that he is not doing this out of some huge altruistic gesture? Absolutely, and it would be stupid to think that. Second, lets not beat around the bush, everyone is involved with crypto for financial gain and what not, the community aspect is fantastic and that is no doubt a secondary reason as to why people are here. Do I believe that wolong is going to make OTHER people money? I don't know, but I hear he has already, multiple times over.. Does that mean that I will personally stake my life savings on his words/promises and whatever else.. absolutely not, but thats not bceause i don't trust the guy, its beacuse thats just my character and i want to be open about it, but thats me.

7. The whole argument with regard to innovation - this is going to become a moot point in a month or so when the vast majority of coins being released are goign to be implementing these technologies as they are a much needed market correction which IN MY OPINION should be rolled out as the defacto way of building new alts (that is with N and KGW). I know a lot of you guys are rooting for vert..but theres no need to 'root' for anyone, we are not at war here and we can certainly each have our own market share without stepping on eachothers toes. We live in an open source community where the drive is to create innovation which can be shared.. not get in to troll pseudo-patent wars over something that is actually going to benefit both past and present devs of new alts.


to summarise -  I would like to give you my unbiased opinion, and i sincerely hope that to both 'schools of thought' here you will take me at my word.
you are all entitled for your own personal reasons to make your own decisions on wolong.. but please be more considerate to the fact that wolong is not doing anything day-to-day to maintain PANDA from a tech standpoint, the network or speak to you all for the most part and to please realise that there are many moving parts to this machine and we hope that whilst your opinion of wolong may be slightly 'low'.. we encourage you to look beyond that to what we are trying to do and work toward as a community.

I am in no way trying to 'win anyone over' here, i am just trying to be fair with those who have taken it upon themselves to hammer this thread with accusations, big black and red letters and all-round mention of distrust/disgust for the guy.

Like I have said from day 1, you are not being forced to mine the coin, we appreciate your view if you are not interested and we are massively grateful to everyone who has jumped on the PANDA bamboo canoe and taken a ride with us, its going to be great

sev

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Panda is doing great only 5 days young wow great job devs...thanks devs for all your hard work im still mining!

Panda Phq3okjsF3sD777fWmhcPGJdf8YcF4C6Lt

you are very welcome handsome panda
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Exactly. The Panda Coin is not a scam, nor is it a pump and dumpers bitch - it is an excellent investment opportunity with the potential to at least be valued around half of whatever Doge is trading at in the short term, parity and higher in the long term. It was always going to go down while Vert is being pumped but those who flog off their stash at this price will probably be sorry - you may get lucky and be able to buy back in a tad lower than you sold em for but once that Vert bubble bursts people are going to be pouring in BTC to this coin once more. I think the lowest we will ever see will be 45-50ish before massive buy walls form once more.

You realize that Vertcoin is well on its way to becoming the next "token coin" after Litecoin right?  Every Nfactor coin that comes after Vert is just going to be another altcoin.

Vertcoin will, simply put, be the standard all other NF coins are based on.  PANDA is already little more than a simple rebranding of VTC.


No need to explain, really.

Vertcoin speaks for itself, and its already huge community is undeniable.  The only, and I mean only way Wolong is able to prolong the misery is to try and dump his VERT holdings, which...he already brags about numerous times on his twitter account.

To those who currently hold shares in this scam coin...ask yourself...how much faith do you put in an investment headed by a man whos only crutch to keep it within viewing distance in the rearview mirror is to try and sabotage via direct market manipulation?   Obviously he knows there is nothing of significance planned for this coin in the future other than a series of pump n dumps only to line his own pockets.

LOL.  Nuff said.  The smart ones will dump this junk while they still have value to cling to and invest in the real ORIGINAL future successor to litecoin...which is Vert.

Trading Rule Numer 1: Buy when the price is going down and sell when it is going up. It's a foolish trader who purchases during a pump. VERT may well be the next big thing, but now ain't the time to invest. What goes up must come down and chances are you are only providing a means for those who bought before the pump (or caused it...) to dump for a profit. You may get lucky and it continues to go up, up, up - or you may end up paying double the price for a coin when the dump starts.
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Exactly. The Panda Coin is not a scam, nor is it a pump and dumpers bitch - it is an excellent investment opportunity with the potential to at least be valued around half of whatever Doge is trading at in the short term, parity and higher in the long term. It was always going to go down while Vert is being pumped but those who flog off their stash at this price will probably be sorry - you may get lucky and be able to buy back in a tad lower than you sold em for but once that Vert bubble bursts people are going to be pouring in BTC to this coin once more. I think the lowest we will ever see will be 45-50ish before massive buy walls form once more.

You realize that Vertcoin is well on its way to becoming the next "token coin" after Litecoin right?  Every Nfactor coin that comes after Vert is just going to be another altcoin.

Vertcoin will, simply put, be the standard all other NF coins are based on.  PANDA is already little more than a simple rebranding of VTC.


No need to explain, really.

Vertcoin speaks for itself, and its already huge community is undeniable.  The only, and I mean only way Wolong is able to prolong the misery is to try and dump his VERT holdings, which...he already brags about numerous times on his twitter account.

To those who currently hold shares in this scam coin...ask yourself...how much faith do you put in an investment headed by a man whos only crutch to keep it within viewing distance in the rearview mirror is to try and sabotage via direct market manipulation?   Obviously he knows there is nothing of significance planned for this coin in the future other than a series of pump n dumps only to line his own pockets.

LOL.  Nuff said.  The smart ones will dump this junk while they still have value to cling to and invest in the real ORIGINAL future successor to litecoin...which is Vert.
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Exactly. The Panda Coin is not a scam, nor is it a pump and dumpers bitch - it is an excellent investment opportunity with the potential to at least be valued around half of whatever Doge is trading at in the short term, parity and higher in the long term. It was always going to go down while Vert is being pumped but those who flog off their stash at this price will probably be sorry - you may get lucky and be able to buy back in a tad lower than you sold em for but once that Vert bubble bursts people are going to be pouring in BTC to this coin once more. I think the lowest we will ever see will be 45-50ish before massive buy walls form once more.

You realize that Vertcoin is well on its way to becoming the next "token coin" after Litecoin right?  Every Nfactor coin that comes after Vert is just going to be another altcoin.

Vertcoin will, simply put, be the standard all other NF coins are based on.  PANDA is already little more than a simple rebranding of VTC.

So go buy verts
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Exactly. The Panda Coin is not a scam, nor is it a pump and dumpers bitch - it is an excellent investment opportunity with the potential to at least be valued around half of whatever Doge is trading at in the short term, parity and higher in the long term. It was always going to go down while Vert is being pumped but those who flog off their stash at this price will probably be sorry - you may get lucky and be able to buy back in a tad lower than you sold em for but once that Vert bubble bursts people are going to be pouring in BTC to this coin once more. I think the lowest we will ever see will be 45-50ish before massive buy walls form once more.

You realize that Vertcoin is well on its way to becoming the next "token coin" after Litecoin right?  Every Nfactor coin that comes after Vert is just going to be another altcoin.

Vertcoin will, simply put, be the standard all other NF coins are based on.  PANDA is already little more than a simple rebranding of VTC.
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so pandacoin is doing good things i heard? its gonna save some pandas some are in a zoo? arent they kind of saved already?
someone also should link this thread/all info about this coin to WWF pr dude.. it might be not the best adv for them to be part of this.. umm.. 'not scam'.
ugh! peace!


http://i.imgur.com/IJMnJPo.png

Hi this is a screenshot of a spreadsheet I am working with for the foundation.
The WWF stuff is to be totally transparent once we finish the fundraiser (See reddit post: http://www.reddit.com/r/thepandacoin/comments/1y0z6x/first_donation_australia_zoo/ - this states end of the month).

Received Donations: 564,429.9600003
Target: 1 Million
Address: PpjKd5y7X8siSF1c7Qx599hopDrqkB4Ds2


I hope this clarifies. Happy to address further concerns if you have any.
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Still think it's funny the "devs" for this coin are trying to claim "The Panda Coin" is anything other than a rebranded Vertcoin.  Didn't even bother renaming our miner.

When you're all done being jerked around about this oligarch-run coin, use our miner to mine Vertcoin and enjoy a real, long-term investable coin.  If nothing else, there was zero premining.
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so pandacoin is doing good things i heard? its gonna save some pandas some are in a zoo? arent they kind of saved already?
someone also should link this thread/all info about this coin to WWF pr dude.. it might be not the best adv for them to be part of this.. umm.. 'not scam'.
ugh! peace!
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This shit is a broken record. They whine about scams, yet no one has been scammed except for the people who have mistakenly mined the wrong coin by their community posting fake PANDA pools here...



Exactly. The Panda Coin is not a scam, nor is it a pump and dumpers bitch - it is an excellent investment opportunity with the potential to at least be valued around half of whatever Doge is trading at in the short term, parity and higher in the long term. It was always going to go down while Vert is being pumped but those who flog off their stash at this price will probably be sorry - you may get lucky and be able to buy back in a tad lower than you sold em for but once that Vert bubble bursts people are going to be pouring in BTC to this coin once more. I think the lowest we will ever see will be 45-50ish before massive buy walls form once more.



Terms of the IPO were stated clearly well before launch, launch went really smoothly for miners (that's me, I don't invest or trade coins)... investors who are holding still well in the black, i got as much as a 1btc investor by mining the first couple days... why the fucking whining? what's the scam? plenty of IPOs exist, everyone knows there's pumps and dumps going on in all coins most just aren't a part of them. The only real dumb part of PANDA (in my opinion as i posted before launch) was the name...



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This shit is a broken record. They whine about scams, yet no one has been scammed except for the people who have mistakenly mined the wrong coin by their community posting fake PANDA pools here...



Exactly. The Panda Coin is not a scam, nor is it a pump and dumpers bitch - it is an excellent investment opportunity with the potential to at least be valued around half of whatever Doge is trading at in the short term, parity and higher in the long term. It was always going to go down while Vert is being pumped but those who flog off their stash at this price will probably be sorry - you may get lucky and be able to buy back in a tad lower than you sold em for but once that Vert bubble bursts people are going to be pouring in BTC to this coin once more. I think the lowest we will ever see will be 45-50ish before massive buy walls form once more.

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This shit is a broken record. They whine about scams, yet no one has been scammed except for the people who have mistakenly mined the wrong coin by their community posting fake PANDA pools here...

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Love myself, sold all panda's around 65 and bought vtc around 30. But don't worry I am coming back, I only don't know when.
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No it had an instamine, and a failed launch with a fork 2 days in.

You all refused to bet us 1 little BTC that your project would fail, and you keep crying in OUR thread about how we are scamming people.

As if you don't have huge loads of fake panda replicas you are trying to sell off like scammers you are in our IRC channel.

It was created by one woman in rush in like 16h what your experienced dev team, that already released a coin, did in a week. She stopped it and reset the chain after things went fishy, the night they did a testrun and a day later it launched smoothy then there was a smooth update to KGW.

Also, it is not *my* thread, I did nothing for the coin but contributing a few hashes. And I am not here about the coin but because of that egomanic wolong guy what harms the whole crypto community, but I already wrote that.

So if you call me responsible for what some random guy in IRC does, I call you responsible for what your glory mascot did since he jumped into the doge market scamming people off.
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I have sympathy for newcomers who get taken in by these threads, which hurt the overall crypto community. Enough said.

this +1
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Wolong ‏@GameOfDeception 4h

Have walls up on panda 50 to 45. Haters, dump out your pandacoins to me and prove it.




LOLLL

The king of pump and dump getting beat at his own game.  Gotta love the irony in that.

Oh well.  Not like it matters much to him anyways.  He already milked it at launch with his premine shares, so now he's just trying to save face with his shitcoin behind a guise of 'having the entire nation of China behind him' (aka probably about 20 users on an irc channel).

GG Solong, I mean Wolong.

I just feel sorry for all those sheeple who bought into this blatant scam from the start and now hold bags waiting for a life vest to bail them out.  A currency that makes MaxCoin seem like an offering from Ghandi.  

At least PND has basically negligible value from the getgo, not some super inflated shill price to fill the pockets and ego of its founder.
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"Trying to let PND miners know what is going on is like trying to teach Economics to a Democrat"


LoL
Where you coming from

Because you even asked that question the answer will be to hard for you to understand.  Go back to your PND hut and let the big boys get things done.
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 "Trying to let PND miners know what is going on is like trying to teach Economics to a Democrat"


LoL
Where you coming from
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This thread is a joke. Anybody who dives into this coin has serious issues. Do what you want, but i said my piece for the record; Caveat emptor

Judging by your posting history you are upset that Pandacoin is on a faster trajectory than Vertcoin.

It was never our intention to hurt vert coin, and we think very highly of the devs on that project.

Yep, im in Vertcoin. I put my money where my mouth is. And trust me that is more than yours.

"trajectory", ok, come back at me in a few days/weeks. Actually don't, I dont care. I did my public service announcement regarding this thread, everyone do as they wish. Im out.

Don't you find it a bit ridiculous you are coming in here and calling us scammers? Now you are doing everyone a "public service" etc.

What is with you people?

Do you see us in VERTcoin threads screaming about you panda coin? Absolutely not.

If you don't like it don't buy it. But IMO this forum is for miners and pool ops to find coins to mine. The buyers are out there in the real world.

Never called you scammers my friend, although i think you are. Mine away, have fun making your "profits". Enjoy. Yes, I dont like it, I wont buy it, buy I have sympathy for newcomers who get taken in by these threads, which hurt the overall crypto community. Enough said.

Please tell me how bringing in Asia and adopting Pandas for our foundation (thepandacoin.org) is in anyway harming the crypto community?

We are actually trying to do good things here. Why do people just blindly ignore this??

1: You didnt bring in "asia". This kind of naivete  is scary. Hubris is self defeating friend, and often delusional. next point..
2:your foundation is nothing but vaporware at the moment, just words with nothing to back it up.
3:We are actually trying to do good things here., harming the crypto community?, you are not trying to do good things because you are harming the reputation of the industry. A clone coin, based on nothing but hype with no technological improvements serves to distract new adopters. You want to improve the industry? try not cloning a marketing phenomina (doge) and a tech improvment (vert) and do something useful.  

holy crap, clone coin lol.  No technology !?!  Look at PND for Christ sake.  Plain old everyday scrypt coin same as the other 100 coins.  Did not even have KGW at the start.  Completely copied PANDA's logo, couldn't even come up with its own art work.  At least PANDA took the new good things in the market and combined them.  KGW (from the start not bolted on after they realized the problem), NScrypt (taken from Vert, so what most new coins will start to do the same thing),  technically advanced Dev team,  whale for a backer.   PND is the biggest joke.

How in the hell is PND an improvement on the industry?  Name 1 thing PND has the PANDA does not.  All of its technology is stolen also, along with its logo.

PND is nothing but a parody of PANDA and that is all it will ever be.  Lets let the 4 lonesome buy orders speak for them selves.  NOONE WANTS PND !

Don't worry about PND and their lame attempts to organize against us.

They are banned from cryptorush and mintpal, any exchange that is dumb enough to screw over the community of this project is shooting themselves in the foot.

Dont worry about PND?
Then why DDos ing the PND pools is nescessary`?

I suppose every bad thing that ever happens to PND is Wolong's fault.  PANDA was DDoS during its launch, I suppose Wolong did that to himself also ...  Name a coin that wasn't DDoS during its launch?  I suppose Wolong did all of them as well?  Trying to let PND miners know what is going on is like trying to teach Economics to a Democrat, no matter what you say they just don't get it.  I am done with everything PND you will not see me respond to anymore of your FUD its not worth my time.
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