Topic: Pandemic was just a start of chaos, wars, or becoming zombies! (Read 371 times)

I believe that your speculations have nothing to do with the reality.
Perhaps, you watch too many movies abour financial crisis and human catastrophies. I didn't really understand the first statement about poor countries which need to catch up with developed countries, otherwise they will have civil wars. Why? What are the reasons for civil wars?
Second point also doesn't make sense, from my perspective. I doubt that any strong country will resort to starting a direct war against any poor country. That is next to impossible is modern world. More than that, nowadays many African countries are in deep debts before China, and China doesn't invade troops to their territories.
Third argument also touches upon the current situation about equality in poor countries. There is no equality in developing countries: corruption and bribery is everywhere in those countries. So, such events are already taking place but noone notices that.
So, I doubt that something really dramatic will follow pandemics.

this kind of thing like FUD news can cause panic, so many investors act without logic, just fear the wrong thing to do. and of course there are some people who enjoy it from the behavior of these crazy people. therefore we must think in a healthy manner about all the existing inputs, so that with a healthy mind we can think clearly and not do stupid actions

I disagree with this one because I believe that OP is right about overreacting on things but his/her focus is in the wrong direction, if you read the international news and the current state of geopolitics in the world, you would be scared and overreacting too because a lot of the articles are negative and something negative is pretty alarming.

I think that the moment that smartphones become affordable and social media has been a thing, in a way a lot of us are already a zombie, we are numb and we just stare at our phones for the whole day doing nothing with our like, so like a zombie I guess. A lot of people are saying that the pandemic is making it worse, I don't necessarily agree with that because things were already worse back then, the pandemic just magnified and put all the worst and foul on the stage for everyone to see.

I think you are overestimating the impact the pandemic has on the economy and political relationships between the countries.

Yes, the poor will become poorer, but rich countries have suffered as well, only their economy is more stable, so they won't be so damaged.

But this is too much.

For decades rich countries have provided help to the poorer ones and they're already in huge debts because of wars, trading issues, corruption schemes running, etc. This help, however, is dictated by law and certain existing agreements between countries that are in certain unions and memberships. This does not mean that poor countries will have to subordinate themselves to the rich.

@op I think you watch too many modern war movies, till your brain is affected...

a few years ago the US was stirred up with Drugs that turned people into zombies but it could be prevented quickly. indeed we don't know what will happen to humans in the future but we can still think positively so that our descendants can live in peace.

Also, a classic scorch earth war is close to impossible because the big nations are more focused on the resources than bombs and guns, the bombs will destroy resources so they are now changing their way to wage war against their rivals and enemies, for all we know, the war is already happening.

The problem that you are talking about isn't really of debt on poor countries but basic mismanagement of those countries by the politicians while the citizens allow that by being either blind and naive or simply complicit, in the corruption and exploitation of their own countries. The more i see the world, the more i feel that drawing these conclusions about "rich exploiting the poor" are becoming an excuse for people in poorer countries to not actually do anything.

In today's globalized world, youth from every part of the world have access to the images of opulence and prosperity streaming from the first world. As a result, the only aspiration that they have is to somehow copy them and fake a similarity with these social media idols. This is what results in those abysmal Tiktok trends where poor young adults from third world countries copy first-world influencers, rather than spending their time in building themselves or thinking about their society and politics.

You will see this pattern repeated in country after country. Nigeria, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh; almost every bit of these poor countries with a huge population have their youth hooked to such idiotic trends. All they care about is the next trend or somehow getting to these richer countries. So really, the "rich" countries aren't to be blamed here. The old excuses of colonization and imperialism are becoming old. America or England or Japan or even the Asian Tigers didn't get to this place by making excuses about "rich" countries exploiting them. They did it through generations of reforms and hard work.

The idea of bringing people come back to life scares me. Due to technological advancement, possibilities are becoming endless but I don't think it is very soon or might not become successful. People are not fascinated with the concept, and it would take a huge process to be approved.
I can't really blame some people if they think negatively of the future. This pandemic is unexpected as well.

war will probably happen since China had been preparing for it, they know it's going to come. they were caught having nuclear silos on their deserts just recently.
for me, i'd rather want to watch the war and bombs explode than become a zombie. if it means burned to crisp i guess the end times is worth watching.


it's only India that China had not been successful in making them a trade partner. the Chinese government had really invested a lot of money rebuilding their Belt and Road project which was once the ancient Silkroad. if they become successful with it they could conquer countries without even waging war. they actually improve the lives of the people along where the road goes. African cities are improving because of the trains they built.

The things you have mentioned on your list are already happening one way or another. The pandemic, surely, is exacerbating the situation, but things would still have happened anyway even without it.


Poor countries have always been exerting much effort to catch up with rich countries but still chaos and civil wars are still happening.


There has always been a wide and unfathomable chasm which divides the rich and the poor.


There has never been equality in the world. Equality is merely an idea, impossible yet always worth pursuing. Corruption has always been an issue since time immemorial. And opportunities were never equal.


The world has never ran out of abusive and dominating countries.


There never was a day in the world where there isn't a war happening somewhere.

Same reaction and same words on what you had said on here.Dont know on why they do end up on presuming about wars and other irrelevant  which is really not that likely to happen.

We are indeed seeing the opposite thing.We have seen on how countries do support to each other instead to fight off this pandemic even though there are some small issues but it wouldnt
really end up into this scenario.

Becoming zombies? OP is surely watching too much movies. 

I think you are just over reacting on thinking too much about such possibilities you are having in mind for the reason that we are all suffering into the effects of the pandemic so there is no reasoning out for wars to arise knowing that every nation is helping each other out. Over powering other nation taking advantage of the current situation is also impossible to result for wars as of the moment for the main concern is the welfare of the people saving each other's lives and such thing as chaos brought by zombies and wars are irrelevant things to come up with.

An  ex spy was asked if WW3 would break out and between which countries ?  His  reply was there will be a 3rd world war but it will be a class war  which if you see what is happening around the world  he may just be right  which is what you are saying about the ever increasing gaps between the mega rich and mega poor ...

Examinations of garbage dumps from ancient rome revealed human corpses were routinely discarded and mixed in with trash. There are eras of history where human life is not highly valued and slavery becomes normalized. Israelites in the bible were slaves under Egypt. Spartacus was a gladiator slave in rome. Africans were slaves in most of the world, only around a century ago. If people wish to prevent things like slavery, their best defense involves learning about it and becoming educated. Know history to prevent it from repeating itself.
 



Wars are dangerous to the rich as well as the poor. Like forest fires, they can blaze up and burn out of control. Consuming everyone and everything in their path. World War II, Vietnam and Korean Wars were the last real wars the united states participated in. What is called war today in the USA isn't real war. But carefully planned and executed skirmishes which can be controlled to suit a narrative. The same can be said of military industrial complex programs and projects. Everyone hesitates over and fears real war as it cannot be predicted or controlled.

Your post makes me laugh.

But i can guarantee you that a tough leader from Babylon will conquer both the rich and poor countries, but he will fail to conquer the Church which will exist as Nation during the choatic period.  It may surprise you who lead the Church then....
 People will see all kinds superior display of Powers on Earth then.

Indeed, this pandemic has brought a lot of chaos all over the world. Many conflicts arose and still arise up until today. Most countries has faced problems in terms of containing the virus and lowering covid cases. Money problems has been also one of the major issues of almost everyone that some government decided to print more money to patch things up. Economy of almost every countries went rock bottom, but others immediately bounced back and the other are now recovering.

Zombies are based from science fiction and based on researches online, there's no reason to be worried about apocalypse like that of movies. Sure, this pandemic has indeed showed that it is possible to have zombie-like symptoms or behaviour. However, zombie apocalypse in real life is impossible to happen. Only that of clinically diagnosed with disease can exhibit zombie traits. Although I assume what you meant here was exhibiting zombie characteristics as well as the time span of spread of the virus is like that of zombies - very contagious the moment one person contacted the virus, another people would be susceptible to it.

These scenarios seem a little exaggerated, but suppose that the poor countries fail to give the vaccination against the Corona virus to their citizens, then the disease will spread greatly, and in this case the rich countries will not wage war on the poor countries because of their fear of transmission to their soldiers and then from the soldiers returning home Once again, because vaccination against the disease does not guarantee that it will not be infected again, but it is possible that rich countries may resort to colonizing poor countries indirectly by exploiting their economic and medical needs and imposing on them the conditions they want in exchange for the aid they provide to these poor countries.
I think this scenario is more likely because the old colonialism through wars has come to cost a lot of money and soldiers' lives while economic colonialism is much less expensive and more secure than the spread of the epidemic. But at the same time, this will lead to an increase in the wealth of the rich countries and the poverty of the poor countries, and this may lead in the future to the emergence of armed conflicts and wars that threaten world peace.

I have no merits right now to support you, but this is absolutely true. I agree. What wars are we talking about? Do you think there will be a third world war? So there must be a winner. But the truth of life is that if countries have nuclear weapons, there will be no winners. There will be nothing. Absolutely.
And yes, who said the pandemic was over? Have you heard about virus mutations? We will live with a pandemic and get used to other diseases.

This is what happens when you are continuously reading or watching some conspira-shit theories in the internet.
I'm not saying though that chaos might not happens or wars might not happen either but the Zombie part?? That is just a fictional character, became popular and put some stories on it in order to become more popular.

The last pandemic happened was the H1N1 virus back in 2009. Did the war started? No. Is there chaos? I don't think so. The funny question is did zombies came?? I think you know the answer with that.
Take this pandemic as a restart of the world because after all, pandemics do happen every decade or 2 or even more decades. Just don't ever read or watch conspira-shit theories ever again .