Topic: Paranoid ramblings about the Bitcoinica theft - page 3. (Read 4505 times)

So, tell me guys, which one of you would be stupid to the point of getting $100k stolen and not report it to any authorities?
Let's even forget the part that it was Bitcoin and all the legal mumbo-jumbo: Compromising computer systems over which you have no ownership is a crime in almost all of the civilized world. Why not file a report just for unauthorized access to a computer system?
Also, how does Patrick know he was using "compromised servers as proxies"? Did he investigate, talked with the owners of those compromised servers? What?

This story stinks... just sayin'

One question is bugging me for the last days: Where was that VPS hosted? The VPS which gengix said lot's of people on IRC had access to and was the entry point for Patrick's email, you know...

Zhou FTW!

Well Played Zhou Toung

See how big a mistake you've made!





(Card number redacted with iPhone's "retouch". Also, a shameless promotion for NameTerrific on the card at the top of the stack.)

Interesting....or he could be trolling 

So, now, the guy who has the most connections with ageis is the first to get paid?


The plot thickens.

Does one exist, just because you can call him names?
If he existed, does it matter what names he is called?

Is this becoming a new religion?

 ... I believe in He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named for he was the one ... and so on and so forth ...
So may be it in HIS name and on the behalf of his dozen of dirty sock puppets. 

I truly respect your candor here, rjk, and have no qualms with you or what you believe about me with the exception of the following.


I have posted many times for the lulz, but when I do, I've been signing said posts with ~Cackling Bear~ lately. (the moniker was given to me by Matthew in my old Indian Names thread) All other times when my postings are serious, or simply mundane, I sign with ~Bruno~ or nothing at all. I always try to be careful with my troll(?) posts, making sure I don't bring any undue harm to Bitcoin or, moreover, to whom my post(s) may be directed toward.

Unfortunately, when it comes to this Bitcoinica situation, I am deathly serious in my postings, albeit my line of thinking may seem over the top, especially now that I've been concentrating a lot of energy toward ZT (I think it best to use initials as mush as possible when referring to him, just in case, in re. what genjix has so kindly pointed out in the other thread ~ please consider doing the same as much as possible, all)

I will be the first to apology to ZT if I'm proven wrong, either by this community or from my research. I would love to stop this so-called madness if somebody here would be so kind as to post, or PM me, a recent image/video of ZT (or him doing it himself holding a sign that reads Fuck Off Bruno) with a backdrop and/or Bitcoin holding/having some Bitcoin related prop in the image/video, so that I can end this and get back to nagging Matthew, for I feel he misses me.  

Until then, I'm still leaning toward the long-con and the he-doesn't-exist theory.

Thank you again, rjk, for expressing how you feel about me.

Later, bud.

~Bruno~

It isn't registered:
And I haven't been on IRC for a while to know when it first was opened or how to check that.

I wouldn't be so sure Phinn is just trolling for the lulz...

OK, #fuckBitcoinica was started on May 20.
Now tell me, why would someone on his right mind try to impersonate the hacker there? Any good reason you can think off? Especially because nobody else did it but ageis.

BTW, ageis is welcome to join this conversation.

IRC clients can change nicks and post statuses as well as messages across several channels and servers. Although most will default to only changing a nick on a single server, it is also possible to change it across some or all of them, as well as broadcast messages to all the channels that you may be joined to, regardless of whether they are all on the same server. It's harder to tell unless someone wants to post a complete log of #FuckBitcoinica, since it was new and unlogged.


The problem is, most noobs won't know that Phin is just trolling for the lulz, since he acts so serious.

Going off-topic for a bit, so that's the reason he keeps saying for you to give the "guy" his 100K back... LOL


Now back on topic: About ageis, I did research him, and so did I research more than that, I just didn't post it, because honestly, it wasn't my 18k BTC that were stolen.
What bugged me most was seeing phantomcircuit's(Patrick) answer on IRC when he got questioned about it: he just wrote it off like it didn't matter at all, saying ageis was surely trolling #FuckBitcoinica, when the site where the log was taken from doesn't even log any Bitcoin related IRC channel.
Now let me ask you: Isn't that the slightest bit suspicious to you? If someone stole 18K BTC from you wouldn't you follow even the most absurd lead just to be sure that wasn't the person?

I understand Phinn may be a little over the top saying that ZT doesn't exist, or else that would be the longuest con I would have seen so far. But hell, I've seen guys pretend they died from cancer just to steal $20k on some forums before, so to steal $100k I imagine what some people might do, and from all the scams I've seen so far, the scammer gets caught most of time because they commited some stupid mistake, hence why I'm not so fast to write off ageis as a suspect.

I hope you understand what I'm trying to say. People make mistakes, and just because he could steal 18k BTC from bitcoinica, he isn't God, he's just a regular person at the end of the day.

Good idea to finally have a thread that is outside of the main thread for discussions.

The reason I said that is because it seems obvious to me that Gage is/was posting all sorts of things that I found to be completely impossible to believe and/or correlate with real life. He claims to have pierced some kind of secret veil and found that Zhoutong ....wait for it.... doesn't even exist. I'm sure that any of the people here that may have met him in person can attest to the absurdity of this kind of conclusion. I find no reason to pursue such a ludicrous and contrived parcel of things presented as evidence which are nothing more than proof of the opposite position.

Furthermore, in regards to the statements you made against ageis, I won't stick up for him personally. I just find that him being the hacker is hard to believe, given the fact that so much of his information is available already for those that care to actually look deeper into his online persona, which you appear to have neglected to do.

Finally, I will state that my involvement with Bitcoinica et al is nothing more than as a customer who deposited no more than a superficial amount of coins to try the service with. Those were withdrawn months ago and I now have a zero balance.

(P.S., Interesting that Liberty Payout also seems to think that I am involved with CoinXchanger and owe WME some money. I also hereby state that I have no involvement with that organization either, besides as a customer with a zero balance.)

Now for some context:


And then the pearl:

That sentence is a dejá vu...
I'll refrain from posting where I saw it because it was sent to me in a private message, but it came from the mouth of the same person when I brought the ageis matter into the Bitcoinica thread.
Not trying to be a dick, but, please, rjk, mind telling us why is it that when someone brings something new to the table they're always "barking up the wrong tree"? What do you know that we don't?

Sorry about making a new topic, but there is really no need to clutter the Bitcoinica thread more than it is when people are waiting for a payout that never comes. (Yes I know I did it before and that's why I'll post my findings in the reply below)