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October 13, 2022, 03:49:56 AM
Well, we can't compete with the Jordan family in the end! What is $5M for older Jordan? A few days on some yacht? Or $50k for his son? I guess nothing... people just have fun with what they can afford to lose!

Yes, Jordans can afford spending huge amounts of money on gambling, alcohol and stuff, but what's really interesting is that they are not doing it. The cases described by the OP were nearly the only such cases in their life.

Anyone can go off the rails at one point of his/her life, but what's important is to have this strength which can help you to return back to normal. Imo, Michael Jordan is a good father, who illustrated by his own example how to not become a gambling addict.
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October 12, 2022, 02:19:51 AM
Well I know that every parent is free to raise their children as they want, I don't know what Michael's son does, but what he is doing is not good, it is something bad, the money he is spending I imagine belongs to his father , but even so I consider that he can spend what he wants and embarrass himself as long as the money is his own and that he has earned it to decide how to spend it, that is something very delicate, I think that he as a father should make it very clear things and not throw so much money at them with such irresponsibility, I think that the children of celebrities do not manage to give them a good life, they believe that if they give them everything, I know that wealth is to be shared with the family, especially the children, but neither like that.
Because it was their children and they are the ones who give financial support and others, and not the people who judge them. For them this is their way to show love to their kids and their kids want to do the same because if they aren't, do we think parents will insist that insanity?

I guess no. It's only sad that judgmental people will always be there and they can't possibly be removed in this society that we are living in but the best thing that we can do is just ignore those people and start living the way we want. That is the only key there to be happy. Minding them will only make you stressed and the issue will only grow bigger. I don't think we want that kind of life.
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October 12, 2022, 02:17:27 AM
It is sad that kids generally follow paths founded by their dads. So we can reach bad dad/good dad argument through this. Gambler dad will definitely become inspiration to kid. If dad likes to break the law, son will definitely try to enjoy it. Think about a kid who grew up in casinos. That type of kid will definitely develop some gambler type of personality. So its no surprise for me honestly. If your dad is billionaire its even easier to become gambler.
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October 12, 2022, 01:11:41 AM
I am having plan to just hide it from children and yet let them know what is gambling addiction and how to avoid it.

Sorry to say this letting them know about it is just as giving them an information that was not in their mind before more of less rekindling the effects of gambling in them. Well your wife could be free to know and as a man your sources of income, way of living should be let known to your wife depending on how understandable your wife seems to be, back to your children. Its a good thing they don't have the idea at their little stage maybe can be controlled at their maturity stage maybe from 19 years up because at this stage they now knew the risk involve while gambling and can mentally and physically controlled it.
That's a wrong perception, it is always good to keep them prepared than making them right after experiencing hard days. What have been said is right, everything needs to be transparent within the family members, but there is an age limit to educate on certain things. This is good, but the present generation can't be handled in such a way.

Recently in my country a small kid playing some game using his parents smartphone have used $10000+ to purchase equipment and other accessories in the game using the parents credit card. What can be done, if we've taught about this earlier this could've been avoided. Rather than age factor I find it is the way how we explain to them.

I find it futile if we are going to educate them the moment they already made wrong decisions. Prevention is better than cure. We must educate our children about something that might do harm to them. It is always better for them to learn those things at home with right information and proper guidance imparted to them rather than learning about it on their own exploration and by being pressured by their peers. We can educate them and make them aware about the things that can affect their whole being the time they reach the right age.

Children are becoming much smarter these days. The new generation can easily learn and adapt from what is introduced to them and what they see from their surroundings. Therefore, we must really do our best to make them aware about the pros and cons of something in general, not only in gambling. Children who are ages 5-7 years old already knew what is wrong from what is right. You can slowly teach them about the do's in don'ts in simple analogy and logic. The moment they reach ages 9 till teenage years, their minds are mature enough to handle the information about sexual health, reproductive, gambling, and the likes.

We can gradually transition our ways of teaching them as they age and become more mature, if that is what you are worried about. Kids develop their critical thinking skills if they are taught and guided properly by their parents or guardians. It is not an excuse to make them ignorant about something so they won't indulge in it. Because trust me, the moment their curiosity kicks in and take over them, there's a high possibility they will be lost if they don't know the repercussions it might cause them for doing it.
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October 11, 2022, 10:57:22 PM
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Yes, I totally agree with you that whatever you do will affect your children and will shape their personality. But this doesn't mean that you have to fake your personality and pretend to be someone else to present a good example.
Just be yourself and when your kids find out about your gambling activity try to explain to them what gambling is all about and how it may be harmful. This is all you can do as a parent, this is what am doing right now!
I think this should only be done once they reach 18 years old or whatever age is what it is considered to be an adult in your country, after all kids should not gamble at all as they are not ready for it as they cannot understand the risks and the ramifications such a decision may have on their lives.

So until that day I think it is important to give the best image you can possible give to them so they do not try to imitate your behavior at such an early age.
We should hide what we do in gambling and not show the negative side of ourselves in front of children so that they will not think or imitate what we do. Parents are perfect examples for their children so what parents do, there is a possibility that their children will also imitate what they do. And about gambling, I think we can talk about the dangers of gambling and show examples of people who have been affected by gambling and may have demonstrated their gambling addiction.

I'm sure if we can give an explanation that our children can accept, they will never try to gamble. And we also have to keep an eye on their association because today, their association is freer than in previous decades.
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October 11, 2022, 09:14:12 PM
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Yes, I totally agree with you that whatever you do will affect your children and will shape their personality. But this doesn't mean that you have to fake your personality and pretend to be someone else to present a good example.
Just be yourself and when your kids find out about your gambling activity try to explain to them what gambling is all about and how it may be harmful. This is all you can do as a parent, this is what am doing right now!
I think this should only be done once they reach 18 years old or whatever age is what it is considered to be an adult in your country, after all kids should not gamble at all as they are not ready for it as they cannot understand the risks and the ramifications such a decision may have on their lives.

So until that day I think it is important to give the best image you can possible give to them so they do not try to imitate your behavior at such an early age.
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October 11, 2022, 06:59:30 PM
I am having plan to just hide it from children and yet let them know what is gambling addiction and how to avoid it.

Sorry to say this letting them know about it is just as giving them an information that was not in their mind before more of less rekindling the effects of gambling in them. Well your wife could be free to know and as a man your sources of income, way of living should be let known to your wife depending on how understandable your wife seems to be, back to your children. Its a good thing they don't have the idea at their little stage maybe can be controlled at their maturity stage maybe from 19 years up because at this stage they now knew the risk involve while gambling and can mentally and physically controlled it.
That's a wrong perception, it is always good to keep them prepared than making them right after experiencing hard days. What have been said is right, everything needs to be transparent within the family members, but there is an age limit to educate on certain things. This is good, but the present generation can't be handled in such a way.

Recently in my country a small kid playing some game using his parents smartphone have used $10000+ to purchase equipment and other accessories in the game using the parents credit card. What can be done, if we've taught about this earlier this could've been avoided. Rather than age factor I find it is the way how we explain to them.
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October 11, 2022, 06:33:07 PM
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Yes, I totally agree with you that whatever you do will affect your children and will shape their personality. But this doesn't mean that you have to fake your personality and pretend to be someone else to present a good example.
Yes, this is true. Especially if they see their activities, usually they will learn from what they see in their family.
However, children will also experience a phase of their own development, they will go through stages of the learning and development process in various ways. Maybe some will look to their parents and do the same thing, but some of them prefer to follow what is in their environment.
In essence, children have their own development process whether it is seen by their parents or from their surroundings.
But for sure, as parents, we just need to give direction and guidance and keep monitoring it but don't get too involved. Entrust children with what they are doing to practice their responsibilities.

Especially related to gambling, we are also obliged to explain good and bad gambling so that children will want to consider their own decisions about the dangers of gambling if we can't control and manage it. Convince and telling children about this gambling may also be quite difficult because they may have very different thoughts from us.
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October 11, 2022, 05:44:22 PM
^^
Yes, I totally agree with you that whatever you do will affect your children and will shape their personality. But this doesn't mean that you have to fake your personality and pretend to be someone else to present a good example.
Just be yourself and when your kids find out about your gambling activity try to explain to them what gambling is all about and how it may be harmful. This is all you can do as a parent, this is what am doing right now!
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October 11, 2022, 05:18:30 PM
As a parent, the only thing you can do is to teach the children the basic effect of gambling, both the positive and negative effects of it and let them know what always become the end of a gambler, a practical example can be conducted as well(taking them to a betting shop and see how many gamblers were able to smile out of the betting shop).Been a parent in this jet age is a big responsibility and we needed to be considerate in dealing with our children orelse they will start to hide many things from us.
I agree with you to some extent, know it that a good leader leads by showing examples, as a parent, you should already know that whatever you do, your children are watching, and it will be extremely difficult to tell your child not to do what he or she has seen you doing  several times, like in the case of Michael Jordan and his son, his son sure has seen his father gamble and he(the son) picked up the habit from his father.

So the best advice should be, whatever you as a father or Mother know if not right and you don't want your children to do, then don't do it your self, because if you do and they see you, there is no way they are going to believe you when to tell them not to do that same thing, they probably will feel you are trying to cheat them out on something.
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October 11, 2022, 05:09:33 PM
As a parent, the only thing you can do is to teach the children the basic effect of gambling, both the positive and negative effects of it and let them know what always become the end of a gambler, a practical example can be conducted as well(taking them to a betting shop and see how many gamblers were able to smile out of the betting shop).Been a parent in this jet age is a big responsibility and we needed to be considerate in dealing with our children orelse they will start to hide many things from us.
As a parent then it would really be your outmost responsibility on making your children be aware on different things on which you do able to share up on things basing up on your experience for them to at least the idea

on what to do whenever they do able to personally encounter it.It wont really be that a bad thing for you to tell about those things in advanced, we dont wish bad things for our kids which it would really be just right

on teaching them the right things that should be done.Whenever you do see something from your parent on what they've been doing then it is most likely you would really be ending up
on doing the same thing.
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October 11, 2022, 03:45:20 AM
As a parent, the only thing you can do is to teach the children the basic effect of gambling, both the positive and negative effects of it and let them know what always become the end of a gambler, a practical example can be conducted as well(taking them to a betting shop and see how many gamblers were able to smile out of the betting shop).Been a parent in this jet age is a big responsibility and we needed to be considerate in dealing with our children orelse they will start to hide many things from us.
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October 11, 2022, 03:21:17 AM
I am having plan to just hide it from children and yet let them know what is gambling addiction and how to avoid it.

Sorry to say this letting them know about it is just as giving them an information that was not in their mind before more of less rekindling the effects of gambling in them. Well your wife could be free to know and as a man your sources of income, way of living should be let known to your wife depending on how understandable your wife seems to be, back to your children. Its a good thing they don't have the idea at their little stage maybe can be controlled at their maturity stage maybe from 19 years up because at this stage they now knew the risk involve while gambling and can mentally and physically controlled it.
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October 10, 2022, 07:03:26 PM
current generation now smarter that us , they are familiar with all technology which is used on daily routine. even we use private browser but alot advertisment about gambling will occur. as we know google record all our activity in internet and used as their data to ads their client product.
We have to use the browser for private mode if accessing the keywrod which is not suitable for children, but if our phone is not lent by children or others then there is no need to use private mode for any access. To avoid ads based on search keywords we can clear cache and cookies in browser applications.
We can automatically clear cache and cookies on the setting browser when we close it, but it is sometimes negligent to forget to close it when putting the phone in a hurry. I've done it, and made me think to buy 1 more phone to my son, of course with my control because every phone now has the parent control on set.
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October 10, 2022, 06:44:43 PM
It is really important to educate our children about the negative effects of gambling at an early age, especially when they are in their infancy. I don't have kids yet but if I have kids and they gamble when they are underage then i as an old person have failed to educate them like what happened to jordan who was not controlled at a young age.
I agree with you, but if we live in a gambling environment it will be difficult to overcome gambling activities because he is influenced by environmental factors and friends, but nevertheless we must educate children to stay away from gambling activities and we must focus on education until he is in university.
Even you are in a university doesnt simply means that he wont really be that influenced into other things which we know that in college where almost could really be seen everything.
If you are surrounded by things which it isnt really that interested you in but still it would really be possibly that could influence you in the future. Self discipline and mind control is really needed
as an individual but its true that the things you could see on what your parents or guardians been doing will really be likely for you to follow on or would really be doing on the same
thing and since you do have the financial capability on doing so then you would really be ending up on this path if you dont have that strong discipline towards self.
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October 10, 2022, 04:53:40 PM
It is really important to educate our children about the negative effects of gambling at an early age, especially when they are in their infancy. I don't have kids yet but if I have kids and they gamble when they are underage then i as an old person have failed to educate them like what happened to jordan who was not controlled at a young age.

I highly agree it is better for children to be educated at an early age.  I would rather expose my kids to gambling while teaching them the dos and don'ts.  Guidance is a must.  I always think of exposure is better than keeping my kids blind of gambling activities.  It is like a vaccine to prevent something bad to happen. 


no parent is perfect, there must be a bad past that can't be erased,

True but the parent must do everything they can to norture kids into a better person.

If a child inherits the talent from his father or mother, it's very natural
but for gambling problems usually all parents do not want their children to fall into the same vortex, and try to make their children avoid gambling

This is the reason why kids should be educated about gambling in an early age.  Experience does not need to be done personally, it can be acquired through learning from the experience of others thus, kids need to be guided and be given  example of how gambling affect people if they got hooked and become a gambling addict.

for the case made by the OP, it is not coercion from parents, but a 19 year old child can be said to be an adult, not a minor, different countries have different rules.
Moreover, the child is already able to make his own money, parents can only advise and advise not to do bad things too often.

Once a child is able to make money, then it will be harder for parents to have control over the child's action unless the kid has full respect for their parents and submit to the parent's will.  In the case presented by OP, considering the fact that the child is able to earn his own money, then parents can only rely on how they brought up the kid and offer only advice else if the parents push the things they wanted and the kids don't want to listen, it will end up to child rebelling against his parents.



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October 10, 2022, 03:17:17 PM
yes, it would be better if the gambling activities that we do do not let our children know, because it can backfire for us, indirectly our children will imitate their parents, they will try secretly over time they will feel comfortable to continue gambling

The idea is not to do wickedly by denying our children the right to gamble but everything has a good timing for when it is expected to take place, children can't actually understand the reason why you denied them access to gambling but as parents we can save ourselves from unnecessary headache by not exposing them to it a certain age level where they are expected to learn how to develop a personal and credible career in life, most parents are guilty for not being responsible enough for their children upbringings through proper monitoring.
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October 10, 2022, 09:14:22 AM
Please be aware that there are specific rules for children playing gambling in each state or state. The best way, in my opinion, is to tell all the consequences to the child, so that he will be responsible for his actions in the future. Regarding these rules, you can see references via the link below.

https://www.gambling.com/us/laws/legal-gambling-age-in-the-us
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October 10, 2022, 04:19:40 AM
For us, losing such huge amount will always be a big deal because we are not used in having that amount, but for wealthy men like Michael Jordan and his family, money is not a problem so I certainly agree that as long as they get entertained, money will never be big deal. However, for most gamblers who are only minimal wage earners, we should always limit our expenses in gambling as it could lead to financial breakdown once not controlled.

Do you also know that despite how rich and how wealthy is Michael Jordan and his family ought to be, if proper investment is not made those wealth can be lost in few years to come since the Son is living a wasteful life, without knowing how painful it's to make wealth. Just take a look at few people over here how we stressed over in our workplaces and you think your children should live such a life without being careful and minding how to make their expenses will as well end up being broke after few years, being broke i mean doesn't mean begging to live but their wealth ranking could be low.
So as a parents alway take the best step to teach your children the best way to spend money and as well how to make money.

There's nothing Micheal Jordan's will do to make his father broke or rank him low in wealth. Micheal is a wealthy man and he understands the principle of money. The $5M he used for betting or the $50k his son lavished are all mapped out for what they used it for. His son cannot spend more than what is allocated him monthly, he doesn't spend with his Father's credit card, he uses his and whenever it runs out, he will rest until it is refunded. Does it even run dry?
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October 10, 2022, 02:21:29 AM
For us, losing such huge amount will always be a big deal because we are not used in having that amount, but for wealthy men like Michael Jordan and his family, money is not a problem so I certainly agree that as long as they get entertained, money will never be big deal. However, for most gamblers who are only minimal wage earners, we should always limit our expenses in gambling as it could lead to financial breakdown once not controlled.

Do you also know that despite how rich and how wealthy is Michael Jordan and his family ought to be, if proper investment is not made those wealth can be lost in few years to come since the Son is living a wasteful life, without knowing how painful it's to make wealth. Just take a look at few people over here how we stressed over in our workplaces and you think your children should live such a life without being careful and minding how to make their expenses will as well end up being broke after few years, being broke i mean doesn't mean begging to live but their wealth ranking could be low.
So as a parents alway take the best step to teach your children the best way to spend money and as well how to make money.
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