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legendary
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I can certainly go along with your ideals, its fair, honest, and overall what society should be like. Although human nature doesn't often allow such situations, people are evil, greedy and will not hesitate to devour others in order to further their own gain, or their own pleasure. Humanity is not ready for such an advanced society to be 'stateless.' Thats why we have laws in place, legislature and law enforcement to take those not able to live within society away. Sadly as countries grow, the laws grow more complex and standards set in the past may get overlooked in order to police new frontiers of those not fit for society.

I agree with you; precisely because humanity is not mature enough to handle anarchism, we rely on the state in order to survive together.  Anarchism would never work if it suddenly occurred now, as it would always devolve back into the state system, e.g. Somalia.  However, I do believe we can work towards this goal through steady improvements in the educational system (here's a good video about it) and slow but steady progress in how parents raise their children, to impart peace and integrity.  Though I'm certain I won't live to see this moment, I don't believe we should discard the notion as impossible, and instead work towards liberation, not away; those who agree with the state system are, of course, thinking about the right now, and I'm very grateful for it, but I can't accept this as the final destination of mankind, the notion of "this is as good as it's going to get", and so I do believe a plan would be beneficial to us; nobody wants another society like WWII Germany, I'm certain, and yet if we aren't positive about our goals for a better world, we seem to always push away from it, toward a completely dominant state, which is what I truly fear.
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Yall aren't one to talk about assumptions, the gov is doing this to us, trying to take this away from me, preventing me from being free...well if you're going to break the law, hell fucking yeah!  There is no conspiracy about it, stop acting like a moron. Its all the anarchist fools thinking up their crazy theories how they think the government is hurting them...I am just calling you on it.

It has nothing to do with conspiracies or "acting like a moron"; it's nothing more than a desire to decentralize lawmakers so the state no longer becomes necessary.  I don't want to stick it to the man.  I don't want to break the law.  I have nothing against government.  All I'm seeking is a society intelligent enough to get along without resorting to violence.

The popular depiction of the anarchist being some teenage fuckwit sporting a green Mohawk, face full of metal and being a general nuisance to everyone around him is no more accurate than every programmer being a WoW-crazed fatty neckbeard living in his mother's basement.  I realize popular media makes this seem true but I assure you they're both pleasant people.

I can certainly go along with your ideals, its fair, honest, and overall what society should be like. Although human nature doesn't often allow such situations, people are evil, greedy and will not hesitate to devour others in order to further their own gain, or their own pleasure. Humanity is not ready for such an advanced society to be 'stateless.' Thats why we have laws in place, legislature and law enforcement to take those not able to live within society away. Sadly as countries grow, the laws grow more complex and standards set in the past may get overlooked in order to police new frontiers of those not fit for society.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1003
Yall aren't one to talk about assumptions, the gov is doing this to us, trying to take this away from me, preventing me from being free...well if you're going to break the law, hell fucking yeah!  There is no conspiracy about it, stop acting like a moron. Its all the anarchist fools thinking up their crazy theories how they think the government is hurting them...I am just calling you on it.

It has nothing to do with conspiracies or "acting like a moron"; it's nothing more than a desire to decentralize lawmakers so the state no longer becomes necessary.  I don't want to stick it to the man.  I don't want to break the law.  I have nothing against government.  All I'm seeking is a society intelligent enough to get along without resorting to violence.

The popular depiction of the anarchist being some teenage fuckwit sporting a green Mohawk, face full of metal and being a general nuisance to everyone around him is no more accurate than every programmer being a WoW-crazed fatty neckbeard living in his mother's basement.  I realize popular media makes this seem true but I assure you they're both pleasant people.
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This link is foxnews safe...  Wink

http://rt.com/usa/facebook-police-social-lipp-743/

A partnership between police departments and social media sites discussed at a convention in Philadelphia this week could allow law enforcement to keep anything deemed criminal off the Internet—and even stop people from organizing protests.

A high-ranking official from the Chicago Police Department told attendees at a law enforcement conference on Monday that his agency has been working with a security chief at Facebook to block certain users from the site “if it is determined they have posted what is deemed criminal content,” reports Kenneth Lipp, an independent journalist who attended the lecture.

Lipp reported throughout the week from the International Association of Chiefs of Police conference, and now says that a speaker during one of the presentations suggested that a relationship exists between law enforcement and social media that that could be considered a form of censorship.

According to Lipp, the unnamed CPD officer said specifically that his agency was working with Facebook to block users’ by their individual account, IP address or device, such as a cell phone or computer.

I support this, monitor and track those anarchist hipster morons, then arrest every one of them, put them in prison where they belong.
Same stupid image he posted before

Oh its right...just teenage anarchist meatsticks don't understand it..."meeerrrr we're sticking to the man! Merrrr yeah!"

Ah, you with all the assumptions again. Go somewhere else with your conspiracy theories. I'm still wating your reply if you haven't forgot.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3592230



Yall aren't one to talk about assumptions, the gov is doing this to us, trying to take this away from me, preventing me from being free...well if you're going to break the law, hell fucking yeah!  There is no conspiracy about it, stop acting like a moron. Its all the anarchist fools thinking up their crazy theories how they think the government is hurting them...I am just calling you on it.
hero member
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This link is foxnews safe...  Wink

http://rt.com/usa/facebook-police-social-lipp-743/

A partnership between police departments and social media sites discussed at a convention in Philadelphia this week could allow law enforcement to keep anything deemed criminal off the Internet—and even stop people from organizing protests.

A high-ranking official from the Chicago Police Department told attendees at a law enforcement conference on Monday that his agency has been working with a security chief at Facebook to block certain users from the site “if it is determined they have posted what is deemed criminal content,” reports Kenneth Lipp, an independent journalist who attended the lecture.

Lipp reported throughout the week from the International Association of Chiefs of Police conference, and now says that a speaker during one of the presentations suggested that a relationship exists between law enforcement and social media that that could be considered a form of censorship.

According to Lipp, the unnamed CPD officer said specifically that his agency was working with Facebook to block users’ by their individual account, IP address or device, such as a cell phone or computer.

I support this, monitor and track those anarchist hipster morons, then arrest every one of them, put them in prison where they belong.
Same stupid image he posted before

Oh its right...just teenage anarchist meatsticks don't understand it..."meeerrrr we're sticking to the man! Merrrr yeah!"

Ah, you with all the assumptions again. Go somewhere else with your conspiracy theories. I'm still wating your reply if you haven't forgot.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3592230
full member
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This link is foxnews safe...  Wink

http://rt.com/usa/facebook-police-social-lipp-743/

A partnership between police departments and social media sites discussed at a convention in Philadelphia this week could allow law enforcement to keep anything deemed criminal off the Internet—and even stop people from organizing protests.

A high-ranking official from the Chicago Police Department told attendees at a law enforcement conference on Monday that his agency has been working with a security chief at Facebook to block certain users from the site “if it is determined they have posted what is deemed criminal content,” reports Kenneth Lipp, an independent journalist who attended the lecture.

Lipp reported throughout the week from the International Association of Chiefs of Police conference, and now says that a speaker during one of the presentations suggested that a relationship exists between law enforcement and social media that that could be considered a form of censorship.

According to Lipp, the unnamed CPD officer said specifically that his agency was working with Facebook to block users’ by their individual account, IP address or device, such as a cell phone or computer.

I support this, monitor and track those anarchist hipster morons, then arrest every one of them, put them in prison where they belong.
Same stupid image he posted before

Oh its right...just teenage anarchist meatsticks don't understand it..."meeerrrr we're sticking to the man! Merrrr yeah!"
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
:)
This link is foxnews safe...  Wink

http://rt.com/usa/facebook-police-social-lipp-743/

A partnership between police departments and social media sites discussed at a convention in Philadelphia this week could allow law enforcement to keep anything deemed criminal off the Internet—and even stop people from organizing protests.

A high-ranking official from the Chicago Police Department told attendees at a law enforcement conference on Monday that his agency has been working with a security chief at Facebook to block certain users from the site “if it is determined they have posted what is deemed criminal content,” reports Kenneth Lipp, an independent journalist who attended the lecture.

Lipp reported throughout the week from the International Association of Chiefs of Police conference, and now says that a speaker during one of the presentations suggested that a relationship exists between law enforcement and social media that that could be considered a form of censorship.

According to Lipp, the unnamed CPD officer said specifically that his agency was working with Facebook to block users’ by their individual account, IP address or device, such as a cell phone or computer.

I support this, monitor and track those anarchist hipster morons, then arrest every one of them, put them in prison where they belong.

legendary
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yeah, because we were utterly incapable of planning protests before facecrack

 Roll Eyes
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This link is foxnews safe...  Wink

http://rt.com/usa/facebook-police-social-lipp-743/

A partnership between police departments and social media sites discussed at a convention in Philadelphia this week could allow law enforcement to keep anything deemed criminal off the Internet—and even stop people from organizing protests.

A high-ranking official from the Chicago Police Department told attendees at a law enforcement conference on Monday that his agency has been working with a security chief at Facebook to block certain users from the site “if it is determined they have posted what is deemed criminal content,” reports Kenneth Lipp, an independent journalist who attended the lecture.

Lipp reported throughout the week from the International Association of Chiefs of Police conference, and now says that a speaker during one of the presentations suggested that a relationship exists between law enforcement and social media that that could be considered a form of censorship.

According to Lipp, the unnamed CPD officer said specifically that his agency was working with Facebook to block users’ by their individual account, IP address or device, such as a cell phone or computer.

I support this, monitor and track those anarchist hipster morons, then arrest every one of them, put them in prison where they belong.
hero member
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Yet another reason to start grouping for planning such on a non-corporate platform (facebook, twitter, google+, etc). Preferably decentralized and encrypted system. Sadly I don't think it exist in a form that it's easy for non-tech people to use it.
legendary
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Terminated.
This is the real reason why facebook was created in the first
place so the government and its agencies could spy on us.

This doesn't seem likely; I believe the opportunity presented itself only after people started giving up private info on a public site, and then there was an idea for abuse.  Everything about Facebook is still voluntary, so nobody but folks who choose to use it are to blame if their private info gets out.

Aren't social websites like that just creepy tho?  Surely people have better things to do in their free time, but apparently not Tongue
No? Look at the friend finder function. You're pretty much giving them access to your whole email with it.
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I am glad to see that there are more people who are
able to see whats really going on.
I will, because if the cause is good you should never stop fighting.
legendary
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I completely agree with all you have sad,
their plan of action is to kill peoples will to protest by taking
small steps toward their real goal to achieve complete control over people like you see in those
many dystopian movies. Because if they take drastic measures people are gonna
react but if they implement their goals step by step people are not gonna
react, they are gonna say, hey maybe a 100$ is not that much so why I would react.
That is pretty much it whats going on.
And to avoid total loss of freedom people
are gonna have to wake up  and raise their level of consciousness and oppress  the
current global trend that is slowly making us modern slaves.

I'm afraid we already are debt slaves; however I believe you are correct, the only way to reverse this process, if it can be reversed (I only say this because it has never happened with history's past empires), is in attempts to make people realize the gravity of the situation we're in and how it can be stopped; accept no amount of hypocrisy, spread the virtue of rationalism, let no one shut you up, and remain prudent.

Keep fighting the good fight Grin
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I completely agree with all you have sad,
their plan of action is to kill peoples will to protest by taking
small steps toward their real goal to achieve complete control over people like you see in those
many dystopian movies. Because if they take drastic measures people are gonna
react but if they implement their goals step by step people are not gonna
react, they are gonna say, hey maybe a 100$ is not that much so why I would react.
That is pretty much it whats going on.
And to avoid total loss of freedom people
are gonna have to wake up  and raise their level of consciousness and oppress  the
current global trend that is slowly making us modern slaves.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1003
This is the real reason why facebook was created in the first
place so the government and its agencies could spy on us.

This doesn't seem likely; I believe the opportunity presented itself only after people started giving up private info on a public site, and then there was an idea for abuse.  Everything about Facebook is still voluntary, so nobody but folks who choose to use it are to blame if their private info gets out.

Aren't social websites like that just creepy tho?  Surely people have better things to do in their free time, but apparently not Tongue
Maybe you are  partially right, but this is a great opportunity for them to test the public and see how are
they gonna react about giving their personal info and losing their privacy and by that you lose part of your freedom.
Which is very beneficial to them, because less freedom means more control and that's what they essentially want.
Sorry if I am little unclear but english is not my first language.

Yes, I believe you're right; much of what is happening today is a test to see how much can be gotten away with.  For example, the horrendous failures of Obamacare doesn't have people rioting in the street; people seem to be upset but they're going to take the 100$ fee or the loss of their initial health care plans, but they're not bothered enough to take action.  If the state can get away with what's happening with the NSA, what's happening with healthcare butchery, what's happening with provoking endless war, without the people who fund all of this to happen getting up in arms about it, which they haven't been, then we're going to continue to inch toward totalitarianism.  Right now they're making private agreements to impose harsh censorship and penalties for Internet usage, and they will get away with it knowing nobody is going to do anything about it.

For example, if I stole from you $50 and you didn't stop me or tell anyone, I'll continue to take from you, since there are no negative repercussions for my actions.  It's the same concept, just on a grander scale.
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This is the real reason why facebook was created in the first
place so the government and its agencies could spy on us.

This doesn't seem likely; I believe the opportunity presented itself only after people started giving up private info on a public site, and then there was an idea for abuse.  Everything about Facebook is still voluntary, so nobody but folks who choose to use it are to blame if their private info gets out.

Aren't social websites like that just creepy tho?  Surely people have better things to do in their free time, but apparently not Tongue
Maybe you are  partially right, but this is a great opportunity for them to test the public and see how are
they gonna react about giving their personal info and losing their privacy and by that you lose part of your freedom.
Which is very beneficial to them, because less freedom means more control and that's what they essentially want.
Sorry if I am little unclear but english is not my first language.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1003
This is the real reason why facebook was created in the first
place so the government and its agencies could spy on us.

This doesn't seem likely; I believe the opportunity presented itself only after people started giving up private info on a public site, and then there was an idea for abuse.  Everything about Facebook is still voluntary, so nobody but folks who choose to use it are to blame if their private info gets out.

Aren't social websites like that just creepy tho?  Surely people have better things to do in their free time, but apparently not Tongue
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This is the real reason why facebook was created in the first
place so the government and its agencies could spy on us.
They want to take our liberty by taking control of every aspect of our lives.
legendary
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legendary
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You do not use Facebook, Facebook uses you.

You may think you are the user, you are actually the product.
Couldn't have said it better.
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