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Topic: Password Visible Option (Read 454 times)

legendary
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April 07, 2021, 04:21:13 AM
#35
@UserU
Allowing your browser to save your passwords isn't good for your security. The passwords are stored locally on your machine and it's easy to find out where. Depending on which operating system and browser you use, the only thing a malicious user would need to reveal your password is the password you use for booting your OS. I think that for some browsers, not even that is required.

If you share your computer with other people and visit a site, your browser will automatically fill in your login details. The password will be protected by asterixis. Using the inspect element option explained previously several times, it's possible to reveal those passwords.
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April 07, 2021, 12:35:31 AM
#34
Actually quite a number of browsers (Chromium) support revealing the password (provided the Save Password feature is enabled) the moment you login.

When I use Brave, it shows up.
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April 03, 2021, 11:37:32 AM
#33
Thank you guys for some very good suggestions. I am sure this will help many like me. I hope we get more good features in new forum.
No one mentioned about the password reset option? So no worries even if you forgot or mistype your password while registering or logging, just use password reset and reset the right password carefully by clicking the link sent to your email.
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April 03, 2021, 05:49:33 AM
#32
With or without the show password option in the forum it is still the same once you log on to the forum so, no matter what you do even if you mistyped the password many times you can always use the username field box or try to change the password into text shown in the oage source refer to image in above post. I have try most of it except the add on or the extension and it works.
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April 03, 2021, 04:23:47 AM
#31
Thank you guys for some very good suggestions. I am sure this will help many like me. I hope we get more good features in new forum.
legendary
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April 03, 2021, 04:02:43 AM
#30
I do not know what kind of carelessness and how thick fingers you need to have to regularly enter the wrong password on a computer.
That happens to me regularly because I use big and small letters and special cases. Sometimes I don't release shift in time and a lowercase character accidently gets entered as an uppercase one, and vice versa. I log out after each session and sometimes it can be a pain in the ass. After a few wrong entries, I type it in slowly and it works. It's not a big deal really.

Bruh, retype or just type in notepad or smth and copy :/
Copying it to your clipboard or memory isn't good either. The previous posts by a few users explain why.
hero member
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April 03, 2021, 12:13:34 AM
#29
Bruh, retype or just type in notepad or smth and copy :/
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March 31, 2021, 12:45:45 PM
#28
A roundabout way of achieving the same is right clicking the password field, going to inspect element, and changing field type to "text" from "password".

Code:

to

Code:


This is how it will look like on the login page.



It will only be a temporary change, which will reset every time you refresh the page. You can easily create a userscript to make this change more permanent on your browser.
full member
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March 31, 2021, 09:10:41 AM
#27
It's a very risky option, specially people who use public WiFi or use the forum on their phones and might try to login in a public place. Now, the arguments against these points are strong, and I can see why that feature can be useful and quite convenient but the problem that it solves isn't really big, if one mistypes their password, just try again slowly and carefully, and surely you will be able to type the correct one.
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March 31, 2021, 03:09:53 AM
#26
I don't think such thing is needed. I'm not sure how safe it would be looking from security perspective.
When you enter your password before you click "login", the password is stored in RAM locally. The only potential security implication is someone may see the text on the screen, but users will be aware of this before clicking a button to display the typed password.

It is generally best to use some kind of password manager to avoid reusing passwords and to easily save and keep track fo each of your passwords.
legendary
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March 31, 2021, 02:58:23 AM
#25
I do not know what kind of carelessness and how thick fingers you need to have to regularly enter the wrong password on a computer. If the difficulty in entering the password is on the computer, then you need to use the password managers of Roboform, KeePass I, Bitwarden. Trusting various extensions that can reveal passwords is very dangerous.
But if I understood correctly, the difficulty of entering the password lies in the mobile device. In this case, entering the password will be visible, if you press the key for a long time, then the letter becomes visible for some time. Thus, you see the letters being entered. The only thing, of course, is to be careful.
In any case, it is likely that on other sites you use a convenient way to enter a visible password. It might play a cruel joke on you someday.
Viruses exist for all systems today. Imagine what information will be received by the RAT remote access virus, which regularly sends screenshots of the passwords you enter?
legendary
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March 31, 2021, 02:22:33 AM
#24
I'm not sure if it creates any liabilities for the forum or not to offer this as a built-in feature, I'd guess it is probably not a good idea from a security perspective. But it is fairly easy to do it on most browsers by right-clicking, inspecting the element, and changing the really wanted it.  Smiley
It is for coder like suchmoon. He developed a tool for the forum that is likely neglected since November 2020.  Smiley


KeePass I a perfect tool, you store your credentials in the program and when you log in you just use the autofill option.
I agree with the risk of compromises by copy-paste steps. @Great Arkansas wrote a good topic on password and recommended some password managers.

Let's me remind newbies that password should be strong but in case you lose access to your password, you will need a bitcoin signed message to recover your account.
legendary
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March 31, 2021, 12:45:19 AM
#23
Another way that I can think of when you don't want to do mistakes when you are typing your password is just to always stay logged in, I think that there is a checkbox for that. Also why would you forget the password of your most used account? I mean it should be muscle memory for your fingers to type the password of the account.
That's a solution but that doesn't address the problem directly. There is a reason why people don't stay logged in all the time and it's perfectly justified.

Topic isn't about forgetting the password but rather about mistyping it which can happen from time to time. Really doesn't need much discussion on this as it's really a non-issue. Don't need further discussion on this, go modify the html elements or use a browser script to do so.
sr. member
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March 31, 2021, 12:29:15 AM
#22
Don't really think most people actually has that much difficulty when typing passwords? Bitcointalk doesn't usually add the tiny features frequently but it would be fairly easy to do so.
Another way that I can think of when you don't want to do mistakes when you are typing your password is just to always stay logged in, I think that there is a checkbox for that. Also why would you forget the password of your most used account? I mean it should be muscle memory for your fingers to type the password of the account.
legendary
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March 30, 2021, 03:00:14 PM
#21
There's another option to use a safe method for logging in and not worry about the copy/paste malware. KeePass I a perfect tool, you store your credentials in the program and when you log in you just use the autofill option. It's perfect for keeping btc addresses so no virus can access the info because no clipboard is used.
People say that keeping passwords protected with only one password is not a good way,  but the program is well protected against bruteforce and in the same time doesn't keep the key file and the database on the same place. You can also use a hardware key for additional security.
legendary
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March 30, 2021, 02:21:06 PM
#20
@YOSHIE
I think a few people definitely tried to log in to your account using the password you posted in the screenshot. Grin
No, they won't make it for that.

That, just an idea in my mind, I don't do like that, I have my own way of doing it.

100 degrees rotating.
legendary
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March 30, 2021, 01:48:03 PM
#19
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You should also avoid cut/copy & pasting passwords, as the 'clipboard' in your machine is definitely not a secure place for a password.
Right, it look like the reference I've included here are helpful enough to explain that it's not safe to do so. Clipboard Hijacker Malware. @LoyceV also goes into a lot of detail about how someone become a scam just because of CTRL-C CTRL-V. How to lose your Bitcoins with CTRL-C CTRL-V


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This kind of feature, in my opinion is safe enough to do, without having to write.
you find it easier to do it.

this way without having to change what is already there.
Previously I thought this was a good option for the OP, but after I read the @LoyceV thread my mind changed and I don't think it's the best way to do it when the device is connected to the internet.
legendary
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March 30, 2021, 12:48:43 PM
#18
The steps recommended in this thread (inspect element and changing the password field to plain text) seem like more work than to carefully and slowly enter the password in the first place. Why not use the feature to always stay logged in? The forum has no timeouts after several unsuccessful password entries. If you make a mistake, just try again after checking Caps Lock is not turned on and that you are not using a different keyboard layout.

@YOSHIE
I think a few people definitely tried to log in to your account using the password you posted in the screenshot. Grin
legendary
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March 30, 2021, 12:39:32 PM
#17
Well, good and  hard password may get compromised if being visibly seen to others that if we consider lot of btc users in your place and wishes to get your account. However, you can actually change your password of the account to simplified combinations so that it would be easy for you to type your password.

Using also clipboard by typing it and then copy and paste would be a good way too to access your account. Whatever the forum has offer or the design, a user should still adopt to it and making good use of it in positivity. In this case OP, I'd rather get too many mistakes in accessing my account rather than getting compromise with the way how others are done in accessing their account.
Great, reduce your account security so that you can have a little bit of convenience?

Copying anything on a clipboard is risky to say the least. The stuff on it are often cached either in memory or just easily retrieved. If you frequently log out of your forum account, then I don't think the environment that you're in would allow you to take the risk of having something so sensitive in your clipboard.
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March 30, 2021, 12:30:32 PM
#16
no it's not browser dependent, that feature need to be added explicitly by developer by toggling the input field from "password" to "text".
Browser dependent in a sense that you have the option to view that password on Microsoft edge minus tinkering or adding a few plugins unlike on Firefox, Chrome or Opera. I posted a screenshot.
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March 30, 2021, 09:50:03 AM
#15
Well, good and  hard password may get compromised if being visibly seen to others that if we consider lot of btc users in your place and wishes to get your account. However, you can actually change your password of the account to simplified combinations so that it would be easy for you to type your password.

Using also clipboard by typing it and then copy and paste would be a good way too to access your account. Whatever the forum has offer or the design, a user should still adopt to it and making good use of it in positivity. In this case OP, I'd rather get too many mistakes in accessing my account rather than getting compromise with the way how others are done in accessing their account.

Reminders, that the more difficult for you to access your account the more other users or hackers gain access to it. Just always remember your password so that you will not going to lose the account. Bitcointalk account nowadays is so precious that even others are now consider selling or buying it or if not buying merits. I had been having some users that are suspicious in rewarding their merits but I could not get a good proof to it. This usually happens to low rank users.
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March 30, 2021, 07:37:16 AM
#14
Do ya'll seriously type your pass every time you log in? I don't even remember mine (not sure if I ever typed it after I registered my account). Thank good chrome has its wonderful feature called password manager.

If you don't feel cool about chrome's built-in pass manager go for premium paid ones.
legendary
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March 30, 2021, 07:35:52 AM
#13
You should also avoid cut/copy & pasting passwords, as the 'clipboard' in your machine is definitely not a secure place for a password.
Yeb this is right but i guess 70% doing it even they know that !
I would say there is normaly no need for that the password is shown when you type it in .
We all have sometimes Fat fingers if type something in a password or Username field.
Best option would be then a password manager for you , or maybe stay logged in and write down your password if you logging out after a long time , just in case you forgot it.
 
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March 30, 2021, 07:24:16 AM
#12
Edit: I don't see the option in Firefox, Chrome and Opera so I think it's browser dependent.

no it's not browser dependent, that feature need to be added explicitly by developer by toggling the input field from "password" to "text".

legendary
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March 30, 2021, 04:11:23 AM
#11
I'm not sure if it creates any liabilities for the forum or not to offer this as a built-in feature, I'd guess it is probably not a good idea from a security perspective. But it is fairly easy to do it on most browsers by right-clicking, inspecting the element, and changing the really wanted it.  Smiley

You should also avoid cut/copy & pasting passwords, as the 'clipboard' in your machine is definitely not a secure place for a password.
sr. member
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March 30, 2021, 03:36:12 AM
#10
...Or is there any way to do it?
The easiest way would be to type your password in the "username" box since characters aren't hidden there then cut and paste in the "password" box. Your problem is solved without using any tools or saving PW elsewhere.
legendary
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March 30, 2021, 02:40:08 AM
#9
It may be a better idea to not even make/type the password yourself and use instead the password a password manager generates for you.
It will be more random and you'll get it into clipboard until you log in and save it into the password manager for good.
(Of course, after login you have to remember to clear the clipboard).
At least this is what I do for some years now.
sr. member
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March 30, 2021, 02:21:48 AM
#8
There are other ways to do it though.

Technical way: Edit the Input type of the password field from the HTML from "password" to "text" using Chrome Dev Tools(Shortcut Key:F12). You have to do this every time you login though.

User-friendly way: I searched some quite rated Chrome Extensions that would do what you need, I found this from Chrome Web Store. [ShowPassword]
Just need to hover your cursor on password field so it would show automatically.

Suggestion of it being implemented to the forum is not necessary nor needed in my opinion.

sr. member
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March 30, 2021, 12:13:49 AM
#7
I think this is freedom giving individuals the choice to see their password whether they've composed correct or incorrect without forcing them to type it once more. Regardless of in which gadget you typed your password should be visible on screen. Truly not a major issue, indeed worthy implement.
legendary
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March 29, 2021, 11:54:52 PM
#6
Or is there any way to do it?
If you are a little lazy to write a password or forget the words to write, you can simply do as shown in the image below.
notebook:


paste:


This kind of feature, in my opinion is safe enough to do, without having to write.
you find it easier to do it.

this way without having to change what is already there.
legendary
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March 29, 2021, 11:40:32 PM
#5
Really is that a serious issue? You can't just write your password carefully? Doesn't matter you miss one or two times, it wouldn't block your account. So this isn't something much important to add a new implementation on the forum software. And I don't think we really need such as service. Who knows if someone following from your backside during entering the password, most likely your account would compromise as well this way.
legendary
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March 29, 2021, 06:16:41 PM
#4
Don't really think most people actually has that much difficulty when typing passwords? Bitcointalk doesn't usually add the tiny features frequently but it would be fairly easy to do so.

Instead of asking the forum, why don't you just get a tampermonkey script that would toggle the password's visibility?
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March 29, 2021, 06:08:58 PM
#3
Truth is such, features may never be added to the current forum software. Many good suggestions have been made but nothing has been done which means we may have to wait until bitcointalk is on the new forum software.

That being said, what browser are you using? I do see the option on Microsoft Edge



Edit: I don't see the option in Firefox, Chrome and Opera so I think it's browser dependent.

You alternatively use password manager like Bitwarden so that you don't have to always type you complex password when logging in.
legendary
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March 29, 2021, 06:06:07 PM
#2
I don't think such thing is needed. I'm not sure how safe it would be looking from security perspective. I haven't seen that many websites would let to view password - probably there is a reason for it.
And finally, if you had misstyped your password because of fat fingers or something similar, where is the problem to write it again correctly. I don't think it's big issue.
hero member
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March 29, 2021, 05:56:52 PM
#1
I suggest forum should enable option to view your entered password while login. Sometimes we just have bad fingers and mistype our password. Option to view password will save us from several attempts due to mistyped password.
Or is there any way to do it?
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