Topic: Patrick Murck of The Bitcoin Foundation - attacked by a lunatic. - page 2. (Read 11027 times)

So who gets to decide the punishment and under what authority?  Patrick?  You?  Someone "objective"?  theymos?

Apart from Phin publicly apologising, what is it that you want as a resolution here and from whom?  Based on past experience, a significant proportion of the board likely has Phin on ignore and an even larger proportion regards his statements with extreme skepticism (things we know for a fact bother Phin).

If you want theymos to ban Phin, then you need to take your arguments in favour of that to theymos.  

If you want the community to shun Phin, then I'd argue that for the most part they've been doing so for a long time.  We know that from the time when the extent to which people were ignored was visible and Phin's level of being ignored would go through the roof when he was on a crusading frenzy.  I doubt you'll find many people reading Phin's threads hoping to discover the truth about Bitcoin's latest drama - they're way too exhausting to read, too "theatrical" in nature, and full of too much tenuous "evidence" for that.

If you want Patrick to take action against Phin, then you need to talk to Patrick about that.

In a way, the ultimate punishment is the one Phin has brought upon himself - his credibility as a "crusader for truth" is already so damaged within this community that his claims against Patrick didn't gain any traction.  Phin wants to be viewed and acknowledged within this community as someone who has selflessly and tirelessly spent thousands of hours promoting Bitcoin and pursuing the truth.  That he he isn't perceived that way is almost entirely the result of his own behaviour rather than attempts by others to discredit him, and everything about the way he handled this situation has only served to further undermine whatever small remnants of credibility he might have retained up until now.  

Phin being Phin, that his attempt to blackmail Patrick was more likely to damage his own reputation than Patrick's is something he did not foresee (I'm convinced Phin has a script in his head about how these things are going to play out when he does them and is utterly unable to understand why they don't play out as expected).

This was suggested.  However, Bruno doesn't seem to take good advice. 

Yeah, that's it because I'm sure he was serious. I think this trollfest is dead. You can move on now.

At least Bruno only falsely accused one guy, you aim to indict everyone as a pedo?

Maybe the burden of proof should be on anyone involved in TBF. Pedos until proven not pedos, the lot of 'em

This is true. However sadly, not all people are rational, which is why I placed this comment!

Nope Phin ain't denying it.  He ain't denying nothing.  Which is good as admitting it.  The only good thing I can find in Phin is that at least he knows he is a damn kook.  But knowing one is a kook, doesn't impart upon him a right to slander the good name of others.  Punishment is still due.  Without remorse, punishment should be doubled.

Nah, Patrick's a lawyer.  If he thought his reputation was going to be damaged by this, you would have seen statements from him and BF saying that the claims are a malicious blackmail attempt by a whack-job.  If you're trying to maintain your own credibility and undermine someone else's, you use credible people to do it, not random forum posters with a flair for the hyperbolic.  If you're trying to lay the grounds for a defamation action, you also want to establish malice if you can't prove actual harm to your reputation.

Look at the reaction to Phin's claims.  If people were taking them seriously you would see very public demands that Patrick at least step down while those claims are investigated.  That hasn't happened, so at most people (myself included) have done a bit of Googling to see if they can find whatever it was which made Phin believe he had a smoking gun.

Your absurdly-abstract collectivist notions are what make ideas like genocide possible.

Thus you desire Murck to do that to him, to harm him AND his family. Your evasions are transparent.

"The good order"? What exactly is that? You sound very fearful of uncertainty. I'm guessing you watch TV and vote republicrat and laugh at "conspiracy theorists". LOL.

Phin, do you wish to specifically deny this? (We all just want the truth here, amidst the mud-slinging.)

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No, you see what happened is Bruno said he'd bring the evidence.  Then, it turns out some dumb bitch in his family got depressed.  Bruno says this is because Murck has attacked his family.  So now Bruno decided he does not have to show the evidence.  This is Bruno's plan to get out of responsibility for what he did.  

At one point, he said there would be an apology.  But of course, that never developed.  Lesson learned: don't expect much from a guy who parades about in a pink tutu.  And when he shouts: "look a pedophile", check to see if he is actually pointing to a mirror.

This is very serious stuff. I don't think his reputation will be intact even if the one saying this has already said it was lies. 

True, he could be a paid troll. That would make sense considering his use of the word "we" when asking for a retraction. The troll considers itself a part of it's master like a faithful dog.

I was thinking more along the lines of a lover/cum dump because the responses are too sharp and angry. Lovers will vehemently defend their partners even when the partner doesn't believe it's worth the fight. (We've all experienced this, out on the town and some asshole cracks wise and you choose to ignore it but SHE goes apeshit. Now you're beating the hell out of some asshole because she started it.) I'm leaning toward this being Murck's bitch.

This thread is entertaining, concerning, and scary. Is it safe to assume TKeenan is a close relative to Patrick Murck or just someone who wants to join TBF?    I hope not the latter....

I recently believed I had caught Bruno spreading FUD, in which he realized I was right and apologized for his mistake and forgetfulness. However, those posts ended up deleted by mods. Oddly I had never had any posts deleted on this forum before then so it was a bit surprising to me.

Bruno, I sincerely hope you actually have the evidence you speak of and have turned it over to the proper authorities. If you were throwing FUD out to try and get a point across, you need to man up, admit it and apologize. It is definitely not cool to accuse someone of being a pedo with nothing to back it up... but I have to believe you know that.

By the way, who is this Patrick Murck again?  Never heard of him. 
If anyone was worried, Bitcoin will do fine with or without TBF.   

You have forgotten a fourth option: Paid services.

It is possible that TKeenan is paid by Patrick...

Does Bitcointalk have a script writer that comes up with this shit? This is the most foolish and at the same time entertaining thread I've witnessed here yet.

OP, you are either Patrick Murck, you're sleeping with him or you're a very clever and talented troll. I can't believe that Patrick Murck would come to this forum to masturbate like this so you're not him (and that's what this is too - public masturbation). That leaves either an overprotective lover or a clever troll. Which one are you?

Uh - Oh!  Nothing but silence from Bruno all day.  I think the process servers arrived with some nasty paper with the word: 'Summons' on top.  We may have heard the last of that guy.  Good riddance.

My previous comment stands firm and true. However I must state that reading this thread is extremely entertaining!

Any update on that Bruno?  WTF?

Very misleading analogy. Are you going to start the verbal abuse game again?

When a man beats a wife who happens to be reprehensible, it is no less of a crime.  The man still beat his wife.  Whether or not Murck and TBF are reprehensible does not mitigate the fact that Bruno is a fucking lunatic liar who falsely accuses others of pedophilia.  Saying you don't like the TBF doesn't reduce the bad acts of Bruno.