Topic: [PAUSE/CLOSE] BetterCallRaul.it No KYC Crypto Exchange Signature Campaign - page 2. (Read 7535 times)

This clearly shows that the domain wasn't seized. It's status is Ok.
It's a pity that no one investigated this before now. This domain name was registered last year and the registration only covered for 1 Yr, which is always a red flag for me.

@Royse777, just be calm. Trust me everything will end fine, even if the company doesn't pay, you won't spend much compared to bitlucy incident. Many of the BetterCallRaul participants and even some of us not in the campaign would be lenient and see how to help. One love

I'm so sorry  sir @Royse777 and this is rely disheartening  especially  for the fact that you have to pay for any of this incidence  from your personal pocket and I wish  participants can have an understanding heart and let this slip.
This is a show that this scammers aren't relenting and we all have to be very conscious  while dealing with people.
I'm so sorry once again for everyone who was directly affected and I hope you all keep making positive impacts to the forum.

~OBARI

Royse sir if the contact person of the company sends you BTC only then you should send me the payment. Otherwise I don't want you to send me anything because if they are not sending you BTC then you should not send me anything from your own pocket. You have already done a lot for me by giving me the opportunity to work with you on the campaigns. I'm totally okay without the payment if the company person doesn't send you anything. You are already working very hard to run many good campaigns and if any of the campaigns that you are running turns out to be a Rug/pull or anything else then that's not your fault. I hope that soon other good campaigns will choose you to be their manager, and I wish best for you.


It will be my pleasure to work with you in other campaigns. Thanks a lot for everything Royse sir! Royse sir please do not take the burden of that company on your shoulders because it isn't your fault and you should not be sad.

If the domain was seized, the DNS entries would have been changed. That didn't happen:

Hi, Royse. Please don't feel pressured and stressed and take your time. We do understand the situation and this is unfortunately unexpected. We're wishing that your contact from BCR will pay you so you don't have to shoulder this loss. If there's a better arrangement that you can think for everyone, we'll be glad to hear that out from you but as you've said, I'm willing to wait for even 7 to 10 days as you've said.

Otherwise, it's been a great weeks with your management and hopefully we still get to work with your other campaigns soon.

Another problem is that the image that appears on their website is from the actual image of chipmixer when they're seized and it seems that it was just fabricated/edited for a probable exit to make it look like they're seized. Even the logo of CM was there. But who knows.

I think this is the problem of a website where you can make your BTC mixed so that it won't be easy to track. The problem with it is that the platform can be used to launder money and I think the reason would be the same as chipmixer if the website still remain seized by FBI. I wonder what will the management do to fix this.

Never expected this kind of ending. Anyway no issue with late payment. It's very hard to lay from own pocket. we hope that contacted person will fill out fund for distribution. Till then it's better to wait. It's was great 8 week working experience with and I hope we will work together in next compaign. I cannot say anything from other but i will try my best to cooperate. Thanks

I hope they respond positively; I just received the information this afternoon. I'm willing to wait, and you may pay me whenever it's convenient for you. Don't beat yourself..

Goodnight

Thanks again Little Mouse for posting the information.

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Sorry guys, I was away whole day. Earlier in the afternoon, the person in contact with me for BetterCallRaul was telling they (Raul management) are not replying (it was about refilling last week's outstanding 0.03543932 BTC). I told him if they don't respond by the next payday then on the next payday I will pause the campaign and wait for them (management) to refill the wallet for outstanding (last week and whatever it will be for this week) balance first then I will relaunch the campaign again if needed. The person in contact told me not to do anything right now and he is stressed too as they said something related to Chipmixer came to his (management as I understood) house.



My understanding is that my contact person was not aware of seizing (or whatever we make from it) the site at all at that time. I was not aware too.

After few minutes I was just checking my Telegram group and found someone posted a screenshot and there is a talk about Raul. Immediately, I responded my contact person to know is this really on their site (I did not want to check from my clear net on the phone)? But he was offline. He responded later with a yes.

But by the time I am already stressed and not sure what to do. I asked Little Mouse to investigate and give me some valid information of what is happening as I am not home and can not access my laptop, I am not a mobile friendly person.

All felt that happened so quick that I was not able to make up the mind to whether continue the campaign or not. After thinking a while I figured, if the domain is seized then no point to continue and if they rug pulled (hope they did not) still there are no point to continue the campaign. In the first case I only can hope they will pay the outstanding (if they have the opportunity) through my contact person but in the 2nd case, I don't think they will even pay a single penny. So in any case pausing the campaign was the most logical decision. No matter what happened (seized or rug pulled) I had to act immediately and inform Little Mouse to pass the update. Thanks LM again.

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The campaign is on a Pause, consider it Closed.

Whatever you posted until yesterday has been counted. One person removed the signature before I asked LM to post the update. I am not sure when he removed the signature, but since his bio did not have signature when LM (I trust his words) was checking everyone's bio, I am considering he left the campaign without informing me so he will not receive anything.

Your data for the incomplete week (week#8)

Total BTC for this week is 0.02292563 BTC

I only can hope that the domain was sized and soon my contact person will update that they are going to send the BTC. I will wait a week for that, to hear something positive for me. If there are no payment then I will have to pay both weeks outstanding payment out of my pocket. Please allow me 7 to 10 days before you see the payments on your wallets. I hope you all are okay with that.

Sorry for any inconvenience. I think none of us expected such ending especially I never expected to make another huge lose in the business and paying out of my own pocket again after Bitlucy scammed me (Over $6.2K or something, I can not remember exactly). Anyway, it is what it is. You all expected to get paid a total of 0.05836495 BTC from me by the next 7 to 10 days.

My only hope is, the contact person gives me some positive information. :-(

Looking forward to work with all of you again in another campaign whenever we will have a chance. Have a good night.

Cheers,

And that will be very bad of BetterCallRaul. And the way things are going, I don't think BetterCallRaul will refill the escrow because they are running out from the forum with the Mixers funds. Now in a case like this, all the participants are aware of the issue. And if Royse777 did pay the money to the participants everyone will blame him and that is wrong. Let see what will happen, if BetterCallRaul will refilled the escrow then we thank God for that.

does this mean if BetterCallRaul didn't refill the escrow wallet and really did pull an exit scam, Royse777 will pay the campaign participants out of his own pocket? if so, that is very generous of him.

This is the update after seizure of chipmixer. And the bettercallraul team photoshopped that update and uploaded it on this website and tried to cheat their customers. If you look closely, they took a screenshot from chipmixer's website and cheaply photoshopped it. The QR that was on the seized website of chipmixer is also the same here, here is the link of the official website, they have not changed anything.

Thanks to Royse sir and Little Mouse sir. I have just removed the signature from my profile.

Royse777 is not home but I was asked to make this response on behalf of him.


Please remove the signature, the campaign is on hold until I have an update from the team. I have contacted the representative I am in touch with and waiting for his response.

Whatever happens, active participants will get paid of whatever is outstanding from the last week and this week until yesterday. The escrow address does not have a balance though but I will make sure you are paid.

Regards,

Royse777

Well I will not disagree with you that might one of the probability case. But one thing I know is that this a public issue and if really they are doing that to scam customers then they have tarnished the whole image in the world. And the government will go after them in real like because they are scammers. So to avoid all those things I still believe that it is the government that seal the website and we can see the government agencies logos at the bottom of seal website. I believe the campaign manager will also have something to say to clear the air whether it is true the website is seized or not. That will also make some clarification. And also the signature campaign will be stopped as well. Since Royse777 has direct contact with the company, he will bring information about the issue to the forum.

Edited. I checked the QR and it encoded this url https://rfj.tips/DuhsUp. Once we click on the link we are transferred to this url:

https://rewardsforjustice.net/rewards/foreign-malicious-cyber-activity-against-u-s-critical-infrastructure/?utm_campaign=mcds

Someone kindly confirm if the seizure is legit because the site seems like a .net domain not .gov one and that's why I'm not sure about the legitimacy of it.

He means photoshopped because he assumed that the website is not really seized by the government but the team just put in there that message just pretend that they are seize.

Their conclusion that this might be a rug pull is a highly probable case since they announced recently that they will have a buy back. With this event, They will not gonna be obligated to commence that buy back and keep the funds in their pocket. The image on website too is very poor. This is not the normal image which feds use when seizing a website.

Wow!!! Another Chipmixer case is here again. What is the possible cause of this seizure? Because of what you said that it might be a Photoshopped image so that made me to visit site and I saw it with naked eyes which I came to the conclusion that it is not a Photoshopped image but it is a reality. The notification is not in any other place but on the home page of the website.
you can also see it by yourself. https://bettercallraul.it/ I didn't edit the image for full confirmation

I think you're correct, it looks like photoshopped, strange to see Chipmixer brought in this case.